Hello all!
Long time reader, first time poster! I had a quick question... regarding the new 1.5 dual-core processors in the new phones (SIII, RAZR HD, etc., or even the HTC Rezound) vs. the quad-core processors soon to release on the newer phones in the coming months. How much faster is the quad-core vs. the dual-core? Please don't respond with "twice as fast," I get that I was wondering if there would really be any noticeable difference in the speed capabilities of the phone, even when worked to it's limit.
For instance, 1 degree vs. 2 degrees temperature - it's "twice as hot," but you're not going to notice it at all. But 40 degress vs. 80 degrees - "it's twice as hot" has a whole new meaning!
I am wanting to get a new RAZR MAXX HD, but was debating holding off for the LG Nexus or another quad-core phone that's on the horizon... Thanks in advance for all your help!
In Europe SIII has a quadcore too
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Personally I don't think it's noticeable at all. Maybe when browsing web, rendering goes faster in multi-core optimised browsers. And of course some games would run better. But I can't imagine any other use, unless you want to run SuperPI in the terminal there. It'll probably run nearly twice faster.
Edit: From the other point. There will be more and more optimisations in Android for multi-core SoCs, so quad-core will for sure "last longer".
Rebellos, thanks for the help! Not to open a whole can of worms, but what do you mean "run SuperPI"? Is this an app that I should be familiarizing myself with? (Fairly new to the ROMs, rooting, bootloaders side of things)
When I got my captivate, I had the option of waiting a month to get the atrix which had a dual core processor. I choose to go for the sure-fire "I Know it'll have dev support" single core processor and don't regret it.
This time however, there are like 3 quad core devices coming out. One x+ has a tegra 3, the Note 2 has an exynos. The Optimus G has an S4.
While dev support is still important.. the S4 is an incredibly compelling factor for me personally.
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Rebellos, thanks for the help! Not to open a whole can of worms, but what do you mean "run SuperPI"? Is this an app that I should be familiarizing myself with? (Fairly new to the ROMs, rooting, bootloaders side of things)
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SuperPi is nothing more than a benchmark you really don't need to concern yourself with.
Remember when you are talking about cores, it is not simply the number of cores that you need to take into consideration but also the architecture which those new cores are built on. The new A15 Krait chips are dual core, but will blow the door off a quad core CPU with an older architecture. MHZ and Cores are relative. If they put out a modern super phone with a dual core processor you can bet those are two beefy and very fast cores.
There is the valid point that Android is going to continue to specialize in multithread execution but 1 core does not necessarily translate into 1 thread. A hyper-threaded cpu core actually shows up as 2 physical cores to the computer it serves, so if you are running a dual core that is hyper-threaded the PC thinks there is a quad core on board. It also depends on what type of application you are running as to whether a very solid 1 thread computational approach would be superior to a multi-threaded approach.
In short there is not set answer. There are hypothetical road maps defining architecture but these days innovation is so common said road maps could made an abrupt 180 if circumstances change. When if is time to buy a phone, or any computational device, consider what it's primary task is. That could help you decide whehter a multi or single threaded approach could be more effective. Ultimately as mentioned earlier everything is going the way of the multi-core, multi-thread, meaning instead of having 1 processor/thread complete 1 job, muliple processor/threads complete several mini jobs to arrive at the same point. Usually a multi threaded approach is more effective if designed correctly. Then look at what is available, where is your bang for the buck. Ultimately the number of cores and frequency run at has little to do with processing prowess. It's about design, innovation and engineering. Sorry if this didn't help much. It was more designed to give you something to thing about as apposed to pat, here you are, here's your answer as I rarely believe there is 1 approach or 1 answer to a solution. That's what computing is and computers = phones = innovation.
For gaming it makes a difference. For everything else, not really. Comparing the HTC One X vs the One XL (Tegra 3 Quad vs Snapdragon S4 Dual, respectively), the One XL benchmarks as faster than the One X CPU-wise (calculations), but the One X is more powerful graphically because the GeForce GPU inside the Tegra 3 chipset is more powerful than the Adreno 225 inside the Snapdragon S4. I have the Galaxy S3 i9300 while my girlfriend has the AT&T Snapdragon S4 Dual (LTE + 2GB RAM) version. Mine is clearly faster when it comes to heavy gaming, noticeably. Hers jerks on certain games like Beach Buggy Blitz, even on middle-level resolution, while mine runs completely smoothly on the highest resolution.
The only real comparison would be Snapdragon S4 Dual vs Snapdragon S4 Quad, or Exynos Dual vs Exynos Quad. The Galaxy S2 was as smooth as the S3, from personal experience (Sprint, Exynos version vs GS3 International Exynos version). Gaming was also super fast. But the Exynos quad is definitely more powerful.
TL;DR: It depends heavily on the chipsets being compared.
I have a T-Mobile Galaxy S2 running AOKP JB. In my opinion AOKP JB is A LOT faster than CM10. My phone is really fast now. Dual-core is still good.
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u can feel the difference in gaming and web browsing....
Sometimes Dual Core is better for example the Exynos 5250
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Sometimes Dual Core is better for example the Exynos 5250
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True, but that's a completely different architecture. Exynos 4412 (the one in the i9300) is based on Cortex A9, whereas the Exynos 5520 is Cortex A15. It's like saying quad-core Pentium 3 vs dual-core Pentium 4. The Pentium 4 is a more advanced architecture, so it would win. It's like comparing apples to oranges.
Yes the 4412 is just double Dualcore
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Yes the 4412 is just double Dualcore
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Exynos 4412 is the quad core version in the Galaxy S3 i9300. The Exynos Dual core inside of the Galaxy S II is the 4212.
Thanks for all the advice and tips everyone! And thanks to fusuikan for the very lengthy explanation of SuperPI and insight into processing chips!
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Exynos 4412 is the quad core version in the Galaxy S3 i9300. The Exynos Dual core inside of the Galaxy S II is the 4212.
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But Samsung has just doubled the cores and not founded a new processor
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For heavy games it makes difference.
In my opinion, a A15 based dual core may be a better as an overall proposition compared to a quad core A9. The A15 should have approximately 20%-40%+ better single threaded performance. Most of the time you are working in a single threaded mode.
In fact you only need quad core when using a very high multi-threaded load. Not very common on a phone.
If however the choice is between a dual core A15 vs a quad core A15, the choice becomes very straightforward. Get the quad-core in that case.
Dual Core A15 vs Quad Core A9 (of the same type of chipset, like Exynos 4412 Quad in the S3 vs Exynos 5520 in the Nexus 10/Samsung Chromebook), Dual wins. It's more efficient and just overall more powerful. The first A15 chipset are the Snapdragon S4 Pro (Quad only) and the Exynos 5250. It's speculated though that the Galaxy S4 will have an Exynos 5 Quad.
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Dual Core A15 vs Quad Core A9 (of the same type of chipset, like Exynos 4412 Quad in the S3 vs Exynos 5520 in the Nexus 10/Samsung Chromebook), Dual wins. It's more efficient and just overall more powerful. The first A15 chipset are the Snapdragon S4 Pro (Quad only) and the Exynos 5520. It's speculated though that the Galaxy S4 will have an Exynos 5 Quad.
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Actually its Exynos 5250 not 5520 and s4 pro is not based on A15 architecture its quite similar but A15(dual core) gives better performance than s4 pro(quad core) in single threaded operations ,but in multi threaded operations s4 pro is better,but with same number of cores on both ,A15(quad core) would be better than s4 pro(quad core) in both multi threaded and single threaded operations.
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Exynos 4412 is the quad core version in the Galaxy S3 i9300. The Exynos Dual core inside of the Galaxy S II is the 4212.
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Galaxy s2 GT I9100 uses exynos
4210 not 4212
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Im thinking of a new phone but im perplexed. Should i get a dual core now like the Note or the Nexus or should i try and wait for a quad core? I dont usually game pn my phone, i have a Galaxy Tab for that.
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people would tell you to get the quad, but personally I wouldn't cause
a : No app needs THAT much power yet, ( I might be wrong here. )
b : Battery life.
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people would tell you to get the quad, but personally I wouldn't cause
a : No app needs THAT much power yet, ( I might be wrong here. )
b : Battery life.
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I would tend to agree with you.
Especially if your not worried about games.
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While I agree with the guys above, but I'm also in the same boat as the TC. I'm currently upgrade eligible and I've thought about buying a dual-core phone as I currently have an Aria but I think I've decided to wait until the Galaxy S3. If any of the rumors are true about it, it wont be out of date by my next upgrade.
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The only "announced" quad cores are the huwai whatever its called(sorry dont remember the name of the phone). And the htc one x. Unfortunatly the htc will not have a quad core in america yet because the tegra3 is not lte compatable so i think we all gonna have to settle for dual core this year. I could be wrong but it seems like we wont get a quad for a while yet.
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Luckily I just upgraded to the Samsung Glide in November but I know what you mean. Why go Dual core if you can get Quad core and be set for a good amount of time. The only thing I worry about quad core is will it eat up battery power?
My dual core is plenty and it doesn't even have dual core optimization ics OS yet... I can't think of any reason to need a quad core. It's like using a server to power notepad
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I'm using quad core. i feel ok
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What about Four+1?
What about 4-PLUS-1 technology? Any idea whether such systems actually make things run more efficiently using only 1 core (the "ninja" core) for low-end tasks? No idea about this, just floating it to see what news there is out there about this technology.
First of all based on ur bugdet
Second quad core rocks but if u don't need intensive processing with ur smartphone I would say go for the galaxy note its amazing
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Dual core most people will tell you quadcore is faster than dual core this is false. Just because you have two more of something doesn't mean anything if you can not use it properly. This is why tegra 3 as you see gets beat by Qualcomm krait (dual core) and Ti omap 5 (dual core). Its not about how many cores its about efficiency. Nvidia pretty much doesn't know what they are doing still in the phone market.
Quad core on a phone is not required imo.
I would stick with a dual core (My Galaxy SII has never given me any trouble) - quad core is pricy and no real need for it at present. But you can always do a future investment since you will eventually want a quad core.
I am personally waiting till my quad core phones drop in price and are required.
The note does look sweet but my luck sprint wont get it and htc said the one x will be the fagship phone for this year
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when android can fully utilize two cores, then we'll talk. Until then this is pointless. Quad core = less battery
Why no three cores?
I would like an upgrade as well lol, even if it means 1GHz Single core as I am currently surviving on 528MHz OC'ed to 692MHz (ofc single core) lol
It can handle everyday tasks all right but when you mention 3D games it dies (no gpu)
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Quad core on a phone is not required imo.
I would stick with a dual core (My Galaxy SII has never given me any trouble) - quad core is pricy and no real need for it at present. But you can always do a future investment since you will eventually want a quad core.
I am personally waiting till my quad core phones drop in price and are required.
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The thing is, the HTC One X in the UK can be brought for £28.50 a month - I would have to pay more than that for the Galaxy Nexus. Quad core phones are no more expensive to buy than dual core - phone manufacturers realise that at present, they simply don't have a market for constant £41 on free prices.
For the people who say quad core means less battery are wrong. Nvidia is still using
A9 architecture and 40 mn. Ti omap5, exynos (5, something), Krait, all beat tegra 3 quad core technology. Ti omap 5 and krait are using 28mn and exynos supposedly using 32mn. All of these processors are a15 which pretty much destroys nvidia a9 architecture. They also use less power voltage and completing the same task. Compared to tegra 3.
Quad core is pointless if you don't have the battery to back it up. The Razr Maxx has a 3,300mAh battery. That should have been available a long time ago. Companies keep designing phones with bigger screens, more powerful processors, and energy-draining 4G LTE. This is all fun and well, but the battery is the most important part and need to be worked on more.
In some cases dual core processors can actually be faster than processors with quad core.
Anyone else have Galaxy S3 specs on AnTuTu benchmark? I was running some tests and saw this...
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All the specs look good except for the 4212 Exynos processor. Isnt that Samsungs dual core processor with no embedded LTE?
Hmmm.....it seems there will be really a 1.4Ghz processor within. They are considering to improve the OS before they go for more hardware......
I hoped for little more juce.....
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All the specs look good except for the 4212 Exynos processor. Isnt that Samsungs dual core processor with no embedded LTE?
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yeah, that was the one they announced back in september, people thought it would be in the gnex I think
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All the specs look good except for the 4212 Exynos processor. Isnt that Samsungs dual core processor with no embedded LTE?
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Red5, didn't expect to see you here.
But yeah, you're right. Even though it's dual core, it seems to have better battery consumption than the Galaxy S II chip and "50% better GPU performance."
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4900/samsung-talks-about-32nm-15ghz-exynos-soc
Edit: Just submitted this thread to Engadget. Let's see if they bite...
Edit2: Yup, found it through AnTuTu as well. It says "Certified Configuration" if that means anything.
Previous leaks have been of a quad-core phone, how does this being a dual core chip make any sense?
Edit: also the 4212 is clocked at 1.5 ghz, why is this reporting it at 1.4?
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Previous leaks have been of a quad-core phone, how does this being a dual core chip make any sense?
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Not at all! Or it's again dust in the wind? Soon we'll know
I think this is fake, i don't believe that Samsung could launch the Galaxy S3 with a dual-core A9 at this time... the previous leaks points to a quad-core processor - Exynos 4414.
This also could be one of the samples used for tests...
I it's true it sucks and won't really be able to compete with the IP5. Or are they aiming to smoke the now old IP4s? ... Not that impressive at all.
If it's true i think i would buy the HTC ONE X (Tegra3)
So if I overclocked my GNote's gpu I would get similar performance? If so then it looks like I'll be keeping my Note for another year.
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According to the bar graphs in antutu, the S3 would be just a bit under twice as powerful as the Note - which runs dual A9s at 1.4GHz also. The 32nm Mali-400s have been clocked 50% higher, which is the main performance difference - and that wouldn't go anywhere near explaining the massive overall performance gap. However that combined with an additional two A9 cores seems fairly realistic.
Either it's a complete fake, or it's just mislabeled - and is actually a 4412. Since this is reality, I'd lean towards the former.
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According to the bar graphs in antutu, the S3 would be just a bit under twice as powerful as the Note - which runs dual A9s at 1.4GHz also. The 32nm Mali-400s have been clocked 50% higher, which is the main performance difference - and that wouldn't go anywhere near explaining the massive overall performance gap. However that combined with an additional two A9 cores seems fairly realistic.
Either it's a complete fake, or it's just mislabeled - and is actually a 4412. Since this is reality, I'd lean towards the former.
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You can overclock an S2 or Note's GPU to 400mhz with Tegrak OC Ultimate, which is double the stock 266mhz.
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http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/25/2975835/samsung-14gz-exynos-4-quad-processor-next-galaxy?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=pulsenews
So it's quad core but still Mali-400 at 400mhz.
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Yep. Seems like AnTuTu didn't know what chip it was so they reported it as a 4212.
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Yep. Seems like AnTuTu didn't know what chip it was so they reported it as a 4212.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndtvyTPIx3Q&feature=youtube_gdata_player
In the video they compare Exynos 4 dual vs quad and the quad is labeled as Exynos 4212 so it seems Antutu was correct.
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It seems that Samsung change the name of the chips, see this http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_announces_new_quadcore_exynos_4_quad_processor-news-4160.php.
4212 - Quad-Core
4210 - Dual-Core
Now the name on the Antutu makes sense.
Yes I've used the search tool and the last post in the last Exynos 5250 thread was at december 2011 and I can't find any rules about reviving old threads so I don't want to fiddle with it since I might get an infraction or worse a ban and and the last Tegra 4 thread wasn't coherent enough for me.
I don't know all the details but I would like to start talking about the supposed new Exynos 5250 and Tegra 4 development so please bear with me, I need all of those who has reliable information to add in the discussion. I'd like to start things with how will it fare against this year's smartphones and tablets? specifically the Samsung Galaxy S3 (1.4 ghz Quad ARM Cortex-A9 + Exynos 4412 & 1.5 GHz dual-core Qualcomm Krait + Snapdragon S4 MSM8960) and HTC one X ( 1.5 GHz quad-core ARM Cortex-A9 + Nvidia Tegra 3 & 1.5 GHz dual-core Qualcomm Krait + Snapdragon S4 MSM8960) since they are currently the top Phones out there in the market performance wise.
Further into the topic will the new Exynos and Tegra make their predecessors completely obsolete once they come out? or is the performance leap going to be minimal at best? due to various factors perhaps you can't fully utilize their potential due to the limiting software apps out there? What I want you guys to elaborate for the community is how better will it be in terms of CPU and GPU benchmark performance. Please do share your Ideas and any reliable information about the said topic at hand.
P.S. I just got an SGS3 my very first smartphone and android, did I make a huge mistake by buying it or should have I gone for a cheaper Galaxy Nexus and waited for the new Exynos to come out?
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Yes I've used the search tool and the last post in the last Exynos 5250 thread was at december 2011 and I can't find any rules about reviving old threads so I don't want to fiddle with it since I might get an infraction or worse a ban and and the last Tegra 4 thread wasn't coherent enough for me.
I don't know all the details but I would like to start talking about the supposed new Exynos 5250 and Tegra 4 development so please bear with me, I need all of those who has reliable information to add in the discussion. I'd like to start things with how will it fare against this year's smartphones and tablets? specifically the Samsung Galaxy S3 (1.4 ghz Quad ARM Cortex-A9 + Exynos 4412 & 1.5 GHz dual-core Qualcomm Krait + Snapdragon S4 MSM8960) and HTC one X ( 1.5 GHz quad-core ARM Cortex-A9 + Nvidia Tegra 3 & 1.5 GHz dual-core Qualcomm Krait + Snapdragon S4 MSM8960) since they are currently the top Phones out there in the market performance wise.
Further into the topic will the new Exynos and Tegra make their predecessors completely obsolete once they come out? or is the performance leap going to be minimal at best? due to various factors perhaps you can't fully utilize their potential due to the limiting software apps out there? What I want you guys to elaborate for the community is how better will it be in terms of CPU and GPU benchmark performance. Please do share your Ideas and any reliable information about the said topic at hand.
P.S. I just got an SGS3 my very first smartphone and android, did I make a huge mistake by buying it or should have I gone for a cheaper Galaxy Nexus and waited for the new Exynos to come out?
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what better than Nvidia Tegra 3
First off, let's talk processors:
Your phone, the SGS3 i9300 is packing the Quad-Core Exynos 4412, rather than the dual-core Snapdragon S4 (MSM8960) for North American versions of the SGS3. The international version of the HTC One X has the 1.5GHz Tegra 3 vs the North American version which has the S4 as well.
Performance wise, these processors are all pretty on-par. Benchmark scores are close, with the Tegra 3 gaining the upper hand graphics-wise with its 12-core GPU. The processor to look out out of these 3 would be the S4, considering it's the first processor to (kinda) take advantage of the A15 cortex.
...The reason I say kind of, is because there is some discussion on the S4 being a hybrid between the A9 cortex (Tegra 3, Exynos 4) and the beastly A15. Qualcomm is a rebel, and doesn't follow ARM's chip designs like the others do. But I digress...
A15 is going to be a HUGE improvement over A9. HUGE performance gains, higher resolution displays, USB 3.0,OpenGL ES 3.0 (depending on the GPU) and much much more. The dual-core Exynos 5250 is going to be based off the A15 cortex, and it's going to blow even the quad core A9's out of the water. Tegra 4 will almost definitely be based off A15 as well, and it's going to be a sight to see. As for the Snapragon S5, who knows? I'm sure Qualcomm has some cool stuff up it's sleeve.
To answer your question, yes the new Exynos and Tegra processors are going to make older generation processors obsolete, but that doesn't mean you made a bad choice. The SGS3 is a great phone, and as such has tons of developers making custom roms, kernals, and other fun hacks to keep you occupied for the months to come hack away!
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You didn't make a mistake as at present android is not able to push current quadcore devices to their limits and there is a scope for lot more improvement
So even though next gen processors will be lot more powerful, your phone will still be able to handle next android releases so Don't worry and enjoy your S3
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You didn't make a mistake as at present android is not able to push current quadcore devices to their limits and there is a scope for lot more improvement
So even though next gen processors will be lot more powerful, your phone will still be able to handle next android releases so Don't worry and enjoy your S3
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Android already has full multi core support. The only thing holding back multi cores is the fact that many apps still don't make use of them.
Also, that other guy made some great points but forgot to mention S4 Pro, which we already know a good deal about and is very impressive. It sets the bar high for the next tegra and for exynos 5250.
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Further into the topic will the new Exynos and Tegra make their predecessors completely obsolete once they come out? or is the performance leap going to be minimal at best?
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They're not going to be "completely obsolete" (even GN and SG2, for example, are still good phones despite being "last year") but there is going to be a large performance increase to A15.
There's always a next big thing coming out, but generally it's not worth waiting for unless you're on the cusp. Even if the generation you shop is relatively old, the competitive market (unlike, say, that of a fruity company) helps to compensate you by providing discounts of the previous tech.
S3, in particular, is a darn good phone no matter how you look at it (except that it has hardware buttons, but I digress..)
Which processor is better? Samsung Exynos 4 Quad ARM Mali-400 MP4 OR Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 MSM8960 adreno 225?Much better?
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Which processor is better? Samsung Exynos 4 Quad ARM Mali-400 MP4 OR Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 MSM8960 adreno 225?Much better?
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Better for what? Performance, energy saving, games on mobile phone? Quad-Core vs Dual-Core?
I'd prefer Quad-Core, but have never find a good test or benchmark for it.
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Which processor is better? Samsung Exynos 4 Quad ARM Mali-400 MP4 OR Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 MSM8960 adreno 225?Much better?
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Is your question in regards to the sgs3? The Mali has a better gpu but processing power they are about equal with all the bench marks. Quad core is nice for aaving battery power (more cores work less as hard as a dual or single core so it it uses less battery) but I think its a a9 architecture but the s4 is a a15 architecture which is much more optimized then a a9 so its a little bit better for battery.
And the s4 allows for 4g lte where as Mali does not.
And the s4 pro is coming out soon and the lg optimus g will have that which will probably destroy both of them out of the water.
S4 pro is a a15 quad core with adreno 320 gpu and will be the first quad to support 4g lte.
The optimus g has all the same specs as sgs3 expect it has the better cpu/gpu. Ram, screen size, resolution as well as internal memory are all the same and I think its SD card slot allows for a 64gb card as well. If it comes out for Verizon then I will be torn between that and the sgs3. Depends on dev support if It comes out on Verizon.
But for the Mali its one up is it gpu. S4 one up is 4g lte. Every thing else is marginal and as an end user you will not see the difference.
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Yes I to sgs3. In terms of what the processor is better? in games for example? In general, whether with MSM8960 Snapdragon S4 go to Exynos?
Hi dude! both processors are good! And dont forget about A6(Iphone5). Sry for iphone 5 but that processor is ammazing!
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Yes I to sgs3. In terms of what the processor is better? in games for example? In general, whether with MSM8960 Snapdragon S4 go to Exynos?
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The exynos is better for hardcore 3d gaming, but otherwise you won't notice the difference in day to day and casual gaming.
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Hi dude! both processors are good! And dont forget about A6(Iphone5). Sry for iphone 5 but that processor is ammazing!
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Doesn't matter because since its an iPhone its scaled back to "improve stability" so you will never get its full potential just like iphone 4s is.
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qualcomm did not much inferior to Exynos?
In most of the reviews of US and international S3, Exynos scored more than snapdragon. But I believe, normal user will not feel much difference.
I had one with Exynos in hand. Pretty good.
i think the Exynos is very good
Hello guys,
I'm kinda confused here.
I'm asking about a CPU I seen some phones and tablets claim that they have it as a Quad Core processor but somehow in other places like in Antutu and other benchmark programs it'll say something else.
now in the Chinese phone Market you'll see a new line of Quad Core Devices, tablets or phones.
they say they have: Samsung Exynos 4412 CPU and as far as I know this is a Quad Core Processor.
but when u launch Antutu for example on some of these new Chinese Devices you'll see it says:
Exynos 4x12
and will show something like this:
CPU Hardware: SMDK4x12
CPU model: Dual-Core ARMv7 Processor (VFPv3, NEON)
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and actually when I read: Exynos 4x12 so the "X" doesn't clear it for me is it: 4212 the dual core one or the 4412 the Quad core one.. u see what I mean?
this is really confusing.
try for yourself searching for Galaxy s3 Clones or knockoff - Galaxy Note 2 Clones or knockoff and u'll see similar things to what I'm asking about.
also the GPU shows in some of these phones claiming to have Quad Core Exynos 4412 that it's: powervr sgx531, while the Samsung Exynos Quad core will have GPU: Mali-T604
lol the whole thing is messed up there..
hope that someone would come and clear it out so we dont get scammed when buying these devices.
thanks
Most Galaxy S2 or S3 clones and knock-offs use an MTK chipset such as the 6575 or the 6577. These would normally be paired with a previous-gen GPU such as the PowerVR SGX 530 or 531.
It is quite easy to modify Android to display a string about the CPU, anything you want really.
A true Exynos CPU will ship with a Mali GPU. The 4x series shipped with the Mali-400, the Exynos 5 in the Chromebook and Nexus 10 ships with the Mali-604, as you stated.
In short, you won't find an Exynos device without a Mali GPU. If it lists anything else - you're probably being misled
thx juzz86 for your reply.
u know what is making this confusion in my opinion?
it's when u read the CPU saying this:
CPU Hardware: SMDK4x12
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SMDK stands for: Samsung Mobile Developers Kit and the 4x12 most people will think it's the Quad Core Exynos 4412 cause in the advertisement of the device(s) the sellers claim it has Quad Core processor.
so I found out that: reading SMDK4x12 or even SMDK4412 doesn't mean that the processor itself is the Exynos 4412 Quad Core.
the funny thing is when I demand from some sellers to go online with me and to turn on the camera so I can see for myself whats going on, only then they get scared when they see me ask alot about the CPU and that I doubt it's the Quad Core.
I also have to confess that some of them (the sellers) honestly didn't know that they have a Dual Core Device and not a Quad Core.
so guys... watch out and pay extra attention to the new Claimed to be Samsung Exynos Quad Core 4412 Processor.
ask for proof and Guarantees, and good luck
thanks again juzz
Yes mate, always pays to ask a lot of questions before buying one of these. Unfortunately as you say, most sellers don't understand what they are selling, just that it is 'dual-SIM'.
There is a pretty good following behind at least two of the clones here in the 'General' and 'Android Hacking' forums. Doing a quick search should pull up some.root methods as well.
MTK are getting better, and now even have a quad-core CPU in the works. That'll be a compelling option for some knock-offs, for sure!
Happy buying mate!
Quod
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I think I just got scammed. Bought one of ebay couple of days ago and realize its most likely a fake