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So I've tried reading through some of the introduction threads, but there's so many jargon terms thrown out casually that I have no idea what half the posts are talking about.
I just "exchanged" my old AT&T Tilt for the AT&T Fuze, and I'm loving it. However, I want to update my ROM to windows mobile 6.5, and get into customizing it a bit. I know the first part is the hardest, because you run the risk of bricking the phone.
Since I have no experience doing this, could someone help walk me through the process?
I know I most likely want a 'cooked' ROM, and I've read the tutorial a few times, I'm just not sure I'm understanding it correctly due to some of the terminology. I'm also not entirely sure what ROM I want yet, and was hoping someone might be able to point me towards one that fits my needs.
Again, sorry if I'm asking when I just just be leaping. Will someone please hold my hand and give me some chocolate milk and talk me through changing the ROM? >.<
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448008
Thanx for your reply, it proves you didn't read my post at all.
well if you had clicked his link you would realize that post is exactly what you were asking for.
also. No one can pick out a ROM for you. Browse through them and test a few out. it only takes a few moments to flash a new ROM to your phone.
What terminology are you having trouble with? if you search for it in the wiki or in the post that was linked above then you will undoubtedly find an explanation.
A good site for general overview, if you can handle the writing style, is blown fuze. I gained a lot of info reading this, even though I don't have a Fuze yet (but would like to get one).
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Thanx for your reply, it proves you didn't read my post at all.
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take the time to click the link and it will provide you all the instructions needed. Everything is explained in full detail even providing the program you need to flash a new rom, so you should really really click before you complain.
trust me, that link on flashing your first gsm rom is as complete as you get, unless you want big pretty pictures or a video.
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take the time to click the link and it will provide you all the instructions needed. Everything is explained in full detail even providing the program you need to flash a new rom, so you should really really click before you complain.
trust me, that link on flashing your first gsm rom is as complete as you get, unless you want big pretty pictures or a video.
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TO THE OP
Having looked at all the stickies first rom flashing looks easier on this than on my old wizard. I found the sim unlocking,cid and super cid unlocking at first but I read everything twice and it worked okay for me
And if it doesnt then there are plenty of people here who can help
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Thanx for your reply, it proves you didn't read my post at all.
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Perhaps flashing is not in your future.
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TO THE OP
Having looked at all the stickies first rom flashing looks easier on this than on my old wizard. I found the sim unlocking,cid and super cid unlocking at first but I read everything twice and it worked okay for me
And if it doesnt then there are plenty of people here who can help
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Thank you for actually reading my post, I greatly appreciate it.
To everyone else, I DID click the link, and read it several times before even posting. If you had bothered to read my post, you would have noticed I referenced it several times. I took the time to read before posting, you could at least have the civil decency to do the same.
@ Theoneeye, thank you for the assurance, I tracked down someone who was able to answer some ROM questions for me and help me find a good starting ROM and assist me with the process to make sure I don't brick my phone on my first go at it.
Normally I just try things like this, and if it fails, try again until it works. However, since I read up on this first (even though everyone here seems to think I didn't) I know I run the risk of bricking my phone. Since I've gone through several exchanges already to get this phone for free (long story) I don't wanna be swapping another phone so soon.
To those who still bother to read posts, any input you can provide on your ROM choices, or the other half of my post regarding some things I should look into installing, I would appreciate it.
To anyone else who's going to continue to refer me to that sticky instead of reading, please **** off.
wow. I'm surprised. If you actually read through the link several times and you still did not get it, you were skimming it or you really really do not have a strong grasp on the english language.
Hell, it's even numbered. How much easier would you prefer. If you want suggestions for ROM choices, it is entirely up to you. Every rom has their own unique "style" that they offer and they describe it all in the first post. Energy, NATF, etc all explain their roms in great details and some even provide extra steps.
My blunt suggestion here is that before you tell others to **** off for referring you to where everyone else has use as reference and successfully performed a flash, you should save your rudeness for yourself. Also, if you have any questions on terminology, ask which jargon is throwing you a wrench in your direction following process. That would make it much easier to explain.
P.S: seriously read through that damn sticky, it is as clear as a swarovski crystal. Follow it step by step and don't "do your thing" and you'll have a successful flash.
btw. way to be a jackass to those who have already given you the answers you asked for.
EDIT: TLDR version. Be polite, and follow the directions to the letter. and ROMs are your personal choice since they're all unique and they come in full explanations as to their purpose.
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Thank you for actually reading my post, I greatly appreciate it.
To everyone else, I DID click the link, and read it several times before even posting. If you had bothered to read my post, you would have noticed I referenced it several times. I took the time to read before posting, you could at least have the civil decency to do the same.
@ Theoneeye, thank you for the assurance, I tracked down someone who was able to answer some ROM questions for me and help me find a good starting ROM and assist me with the process to make sure I don't brick my phone on my first go at it.
Normally I just try things like this, and if it fails, try again until it works. However, since I read up on this first (even though everyone here seems to think I didn't) I know I run the risk of bricking my phone. Since I've gone through several exchanges already to get this phone for free (long story) I don't wanna be swapping another phone so soon.
To those who still bother to read posts, any input you can provide on your ROM choices, or the other half of my post regarding some things I should look into installing, I would appreciate it.
To anyone else who's going to continue to refer me to that sticky instead of reading, please **** off.
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I see your arrogance is getting you far
Just getting into this meself and so far it looks like...
- sort out the hardSPL update first to let you do the ROM and other upgrades...
- once it says 1.90.OliNex on the bootloader fetch the new ROM
- reading around and going by most references the Energy 6.5 ROM seems to be worth a shot, think that's what I'll be installing on my TP
- while you're at it search for aerial upgrades and put a newer version on at the same time to sort out GPS and phone performance.
Just make sure you follow the instructions to the letter, don't run anything else on the PC while updates are being done and check, check and triple check the ROMS to make sure they're correct before doing anything
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Just getting into this meself and so far it looks like...
- sort out the hardSPL update first to let you do the ROM and other upgrades...
- once it says 1.90.OliNex on the bootloader fetch the new ROM
- reading around and going by most references the Energy 6.5 ROM seems to be worth a shot, think that's what I'll be installing on my TP
- while you're at it search for aerial upgrades and put a newer version on at the same time to sort out GPS and phone performance.
Just make sure you follow the instructions to the letter, don't run anything else on the PC while updates are being done and check, check and triple check the ROMS to make sure they're correct before doing anything
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Thank you!
It's helpful knowing there's some decent people on these forums who are willing to help out. I was able to get the few basic questions I had regarding installation and some pointers to help me find a ROM that fits my needs. Since then I've done a few flashes and all have gone off without a hitch.
To those of you who continue to think I'm being rude, you seem to fail to realize the ignorance and blatant 'ass hattery' in repeatedly referring someone to read something they already read without providing any additional information. It comes across as very condescending, and isn't helpful at all.
Speaking of "It comes across as very condescending, and isn't helpful at all."
If you want help here this is NOT the way to get it.
This is a community of great minds and mutual respect, not somewhere for someone to start making demands and throwing out general negativity.
No one here thinks you continue to be rude, THEY CAN READ IT FOR THEMSELVES.
Everyone here is willing to help, but you need to help yourself first. You're off to a really great start....
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Thank you!
It's helpful knowing there's some decent people on these forums who are willing to help out.
To those of you who continue to think I'm being rude, you seem to fail to realize the ignorance and blatant 'ass hattery' in repeatedly referring someone to read something they already read without providing any additional information. It comes across as very condescending, and isn't helpful at all.
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To anyone else who's going to continue to refer me to that sticky instead of reading, please **** off.
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Sorry Dracius, i'm with the majority of people here who think you're rude and havent understood the idea of this site - its a community developement site, not a one-stop download & personal tech support center.
The instructions in the flashing guide are exactly what you need to start you off in the world of flashing roms. It has a "before you start" backup part - with a link to free backup software.
It then goes on to explain exactly and in detail how to flash (GSM) hard spl - including a link and instructions to ensure you have a GSM phone. It also tells you to ensure you dont have any other programs running / screen saver etc which might throw a spanner in the works.
Following that, it says - if you want to - how to sim & security unlock the phone, including the required link.
Next it details how to flash a rom, including a very helpful line
1. Download your prefered Rom from the Raphael Rom Develpoment Page and unzip/unrar it to your computer
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Your prefered rom - remember this is a guide on how to flash - not what to flash. To decide that, read the details in the rom forum, read other users feedback - and then when it doesnt help, do what everyone else does and try half a dozen to see what it is you want your phone to be like.
Finally, the guide tells you how to flash a different radio - and again says this is optional. It then links to a radio thread which explains what the radio does and why you might want to flash it.
If you have a problem with any part of the process (or pretty much anything related to your phone) then (after searching & reading) make a post explaining what your problem is - and what you have done to help yourself (say exactly which threads you have read, and why they dont help you / what you dont understand) - people will generally help.
This isnt what you did.
Oh, welcome to the community.
Well at least he got a welcome
theoneeye said:
Well at least he got a welcome
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No, not really. His attitude is NOT welcome here.
Bruce Inman said:
No, not really. His attitude is NOT welcome here.
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I know mate I was only kidding
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I know mate I was only kidding
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I know Bro, that's why I welcomed you on your other thread....
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I know Bro, that's why I welcomed you on your other thread....
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I saw that thanks
I am not new here but I am new to the Raphael section
(I had a Blackberry Storm for a year sorry )
I'm new to this website and new to rooting. I've read on how to root and its all confusing. Can someone direct me to a website with a more simple way of explaining how root and also what is the best Rom to flash to? Or is that a matter of opinion?
There is so much of that info on here. You just have to search for it. There is a good chance this thread will be closed. You should start with the stickies then use the search button.
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cdpsc21 said:
I'm new to this website and new to rooting. I've read on how to root and its all confusing. Can someone direct me to a website with a more simple way of explaining how root and also what is the best Rom to flash to? Or is that a matter of opinion?
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Read the sticky thread mudknot created in general. It is made n00b friendly. Also dont forget your 3R's....
Read, read, and read
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Thanks for the advice
On average how long does it take to download the ace hack kit? And would yall recommend me being a noob to do this?
Everyone was a noob. We all used the hack kit or some other variant. Any method will come with exact instructions. If for some reason you mess up, those instructions will have always to fix it. If not, it's a guarantee that you are not the first one to have it. In other words, there is a thread specifying exactly how to fix it. If are can read, copy/paste, and follow directions exactly, you will be fine. We've all been there. Root it now, and then have fun picking from the ample supply of great roms that are available.
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Everyone was a noob. We all used the hack kit or some other variant. Any method will come with exact instructions. If for some reason you mess up, those instructions will have always to fix it. If not, it's a guarantee that you are not the first one to have it. In other words, there is a thread specifying exactly how to fix it. If are can read, copy/paste, and follow directions exactly, you will be fine. We've all been there. Root it now, and then have fun picking from the ample supply of great roms that are available.
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Indeed! Just as Inarius03 said, everyone had to start from the beginning at some point. It cannot be stressed enough: read everything! I am still reading through everything and it can feel overwhelming sometimes. But if you take it slow and do your homework, it can be quite fun.
For me, the process that works is: read the manual for the hack kit and/or rom and follow the forums for a few days to understand what issues people are facing. Come up with a couple of "backup plans" in case something goes wrong, and this will go a long way toward making you feel more comfortable with the idea of rooting and flashing your phone.
Follow the advice that the previous posters have given you. I would recommend you use Attn1's hack kit as being the most reliable and now the easiest to use. Before downloading the hack kit and during the procedure turn off any anti virus or spyware software. This is the step where most people cause themselves problems without even realizing it. Read so that you are familiar with the procedure and don't worry, it is easier than you think. Depending on your internet connection it will not take long to download.
like the title says, i want to root my incredible s, if possible using ubuntu as the OS. so far from what i googled i came up with solution that were not permanent.
any help ?
thanks
anyone that can help?
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anyone that can help?
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Have you looked in the forum for your phone? I mean the steps are pretty much the same no matter the OS, you just get the android sdk http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html and do whatever the directions tell you in the tutorials. Typically those are stickied in the developer's section of your phone's forum.
Here's the guide to rooting your phone and such as well as how to install cyanogenmod on it. http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Incredible_S:_Full_Update_Guide
I suspect since you don't have any idea how to root it already, you also don't know what else you want to do with it. You should really do some reading on it.
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Have you looked in the forum for your phone? I mean the steps are pretty much the same no matter the OS, you just get the android sdk http://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html and do whatever the directions tell you in the tutorials. Typically those are stickied in the developer's section of your phone's forum.
Here's the guide to rooting your phone and such as well as how to install cyanogenmod on it. http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Incredible_S:_Full_Update_Guide
I suspect since you don't have any idea how to root it already, you also don't know what else you want to do with it. You should really do some reading on it.
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thank you very much but this part wasn't really needed "I suspect since you don't have any idea how to root it already, you also don't know what else you want to do with it.", so next time I would suggest you to be more careful and less aggressive
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thank you very much but this part wasn't really needed "I suspect since you don't have any idea how to root it already, you also don't know what else you want to do with it.", so next time I would suggest you to be more careful and less aggressive
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It wasnt meant to be aggressive. It was an observation from you posting the question in the general forums and not noticing the stickied topics for the forum specific to your phone (since if you had, you wouldnt need to ask, right?). My guess was you were new to xda since you just registered as well as to rooting and such and you should read more about it before jumping in. Take that as you will, but there's no need to be defensive when I think my observations were valid and I was being helpful to your current situation.
Try to avoid reading every post with the assumption it's negative if I can give you anymore advice about joining xda (though some obviously are). I could put smilies all over my replies, but that gets kind of tiring and annoying to me and others, lol.
No need to get defensive if you think I'm insulting your geek cred by inferring you're a noob. Everyone is a noob sometime and xda welcomes noobs.
Hi i am new to rooting and everything i have the htc inspire 4g and when i try to root it it will start rooting and do its thing i downloaded the hack from this website but then it will say eaarr and it will go to the stat up menu and say htc in green with white back round and just fade away and thats all it will do now this is my 5 htc inspire and it keeps doing this and i really want to root it but im scared to do it again because it all ways messes up can you help ?? now i have a new htc inspire and did not root yet but want two so ill wait for some good help till i do it again thanks.
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Hi i am new to rooting and everything i have the htc inspire 4g and when i try to root it it will start rooting and do its thing i downloaded the hack from this website but then it will say eaarr and it will go to the stat up menu and say htc in green with white back round and just fade away and thats all it will do now this is my 5 htc inspire and it keeps doing this and i really want to root it but im scared to do it again because it all ways messes up can you help ?? now i have a new htc inspire and did not root yet but want two so ill wait for some good help till i do it again thanks.
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WOW!! Incredible how people time and again get soo lazy they refuse to help themselves by reading. This is a DEV SITE, NOT A HELP SITE! We expect you to do research and help yourself before you ask questions that have time and again been answered. Do yourself a favor and go to the hack kit thread and read the entire thing. It's not difficult assuming you have a reading level above the 3rd grade. You'll probably notice that you either did one of two things: you either didn't follow a step or you didn't see that there is an IRC chatroom to help people with issues during the rooting process. PLEASE SEARCH AND READ before you destroy your phone.
Ze, shut her down.
k thanks jerk sorry im NEW HEAR AND JUST NEEDED HELP WITCH YOU DIDN'T COMPREHEND
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k thanks jerk sorry im NEW HEAR AND JUST NEEDED HELP WITCH YOU DIDN'T COMPREHEND
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HAHA jerk? I see basic grammar has escaped you HERE, WHICH leads me to believe that you don't have a reading level above the 3rd grade. Do yourself a favor and stop before you destroy your phone and have to start another pointless thread that reads "OMGz I BRICKED MY PHONE BECAUSE I CAN'T READ". The hack kit is a simple tool provided you take the time to read everything, which includes both effen maunal and the OP in that thread. I can tell you didn't read ****? you wanna know why? because if you read the entire OP you would see that there is an IRC chatroom dedicated to helping those with issues during the rooting process using the hack kit. Stop being lazy. THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT SITE, NOT HOLD YOUR HAND BECAUSE I CAN'T READ FOR MYSELF SITE..something you don't comprehend.
EDIT: You've gone through 5 inspires?!?! At what point do you stop and think maybe I'm doing something wrong and should re-read the instructions on what I'm doing?!
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k thanks jerk sorry im NEW HEAR AND JUST NEEDED HELP WITCH YOU DIDN'T COMPREHEND
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I logged in just so I could chime in on this one.
Calling people names is rude and not tolerated here. If you were to answer as many questions here as some of us have you would understand the lack of patience and intolerance we sometimes express. That being said, bacon boy is right that you need to do a little more reading in the hack kit thread, if you don't find your answers there you can log onto the irc server and get help there. No offense but starting a new thread because you do not feel like doing a little bit of searching and reading on your own is pretty thoughtless and lazy. Like I said before pretty much all info you need is in the hack kit thread and in the effen manual and on the irc channel. Don't call people names here. This isn't kindergarten. Hope you get your issues sorted out.
And with that outta the way,
Ze, shut 'er down!
I can try to help you out.. pm me if anything and I can try to point you in the right direction it can be rough looking around it happens its.not the end of the world
Like I said I'll try to help you out I don't mind
HTC Inspire
I can see all sides of this arguement. I know the feeling of "UhOh, I just bricked my phone" its frantic and scary. On the other hand when I started on XDA and was poking around reading this and that before making my move. I kept seeing. "DO YOUR RESEARCH, READ THIS, READ THE EFFEN MANUAL IT'S IN THE EFFEN HACK KIT". So I did. For 3 days I read every bit of info before downloading anything. As far as the devs I get how so many questions about nonissues can be frustrating and make you want to choke slam a stranger. But it does all boil down to the rules of XDA.
Read everything, all posts in a thread AMD the Q&A thread of whatever you initially looking at and only post if you can find the answer somewhere else. But most of all read the instructions.
Are you 100% sure you totally bricked all 4 of your previous phones? Be wise there's been at least 4 times I thought I bricked mine. And they aren't cheap so youu may want to be sure of that because it seems you probably have just spent a grand on phones. Sorry for your troubles. Cyrax is a good guy and I'm sure he can help with whatever the issue is.
Now everyone just take a deep breath.......... And exhale.
Agreed please read up on what your doing. Modding the software on your phone is no simple thing. Yes it has been made easy but in no way is it simple. Please read up and search. What ever happened believe me your not the first to have it happen.
As for the replies. Outright insulting people will not be tolerated. By ANYONE!
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OK, i searched, I researched and found so much conflicting information. Some posts in red caps say THIS IS EXPIRED NOW BECAUSE OF UPDATE..
I want to put a custom ROM on my ATT One - X. I'm brand new to this, but fairly computer savy. So, with out getting flamed, could someone PLEASE direct me to the appropriate link that will effectively with out too many headaches, lead me to be able to root my phone, and then install a custom rom?
Thx!
Check the dev section
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Depends on what software version your on if it's 2.20 then no you can not root your phone at this time. If it's any other version besides 2,.20 then yes check this thread.
[INDEX] AT&T/ROGERS One X Resources Compilation Roll-Up (Updated 9/17/12)
If your stuck with 2.20 then you can follow the progess for root here
Root 2.20 Think Tank
Depends on what software version your phone is running. For US AT&T phones, if you're running 1.73 or 1.85 then it's rootable. If you're on 2.20, then you're out of luck at the moment. Good luck.
Also - mind the "PLEASE DON'T POST QUESTIONS IN THE GENERAL FORUM" thread. We've got a Q&A sub forum here for that.
Cheers,
-V
I know your pain of all the conflicting and outdated stickies and guides. It took me several hours to try the different methods that might work. I ended up lucking out and getting one with 1.85, and used this method:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1709296
One thing to add is that when you hit the check for updates button, let it sit. It will look like its doing nothing, but hitting it again will start the download. Took my 4 factory resets and several tries, but it finally worked. Then you SuperCID, unlock Boot loader, install TWRP. Those guides were easier and once rooted they all work, its just the rooting that's tricky.
And as mentioned this all goes out the window if it arrives on 2.20.
Good luck.
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I know your pain of all the conflicting and outdated stickies and guides. It took me several hours to try the different methods that might work. I ended up lucking out and getting one with 1.85
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Pray tell, which stickies are outdated???
My index thread here is updated at least weekly (sometimes more often, if there is a lot of dev activity). And the date it was last updated is clearly indicated in the thread title.
This index thread clearly lists the working root methods; and what firmware the method applies to is clearly stated, either in the thread title, or I've made a note to indicate it.
You asked ...
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Pray tell, which stickies are outdated???
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1673110
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1673111
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671237 (for the reasons below)
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This index thread clearly lists the working root methods; and what firmware the method applies to is clearly stated, either in the thread title, or I've made a note to indicate it.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1709424
As stated in the first line of the thread this method no longer works, but I wouldn't know that until I went to the thread. "ACT NOW" Why is this still in the guide as a viable option? Why isn't it noted that this no longer works?
Note to add to guide: This method no longer works and is only in the guide for reference purposes
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1633071
Bootloader must be unlocked first. How do you unlock the bootloader? Root. Wait, what? Round and round we go. Why not note this method only works for phones with the BL already unlocked?
Note to add to guide: This method only works for non-AT&T branded phones that can have the Bootloader unlocked. BL must be unlocked before rooting, see thread for details.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1684382
None of those methods worked when I tried them.
Note to add to guide: Reports of this method not working for phones shipped on 1.85.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1709296
Only method that worked with my phone. I am not used to ADB, so I tried EVERY other method several times first. And as I stated, this guide could use some additional steps to help avoid some scary situation where you are in the middle of downloading the udate you fear and have no idea how to stop it. Hint: Reboot doesn't work, you must factory reset again to stop the download.
This is why it took me almost 4 hours to root my device.
The guide could flow something like this:
Do you have an AT&T branded version?
- No --> Unlock the BL [here], and root [here] or [here]
- Yes --> proceed
What firmware are you on?
- 2.20 --> STOP you cannot root
- 1.85 --> Try the ONE method the works [here] (for reference [this] method used to work)
- 1.73 --> Try one of these methods [here][here][etc]
The rest of the sticky is fine. But everything hinges on rooting your device, and it is so confusing to try to figure that out for a new user to the phone. I appreciate the guides that do exist, that is why I don't complain in the guides, just try to assist the other people new to the device by explaining my experiences just last week. I imagine the only way to test the method is to get a brand new phone, and try it. Something that is not reasonable. But, just by reading the OP and the last page of each thread I could make the above observations that would help the guide.
Not trying to be dis-respectful at all, but you asked what was outdated. It is very confusing for a new person to this phone without all the history of the last 6 months.
I wonder which is clogging up the forum more. People who "aren't searching properly" or the ones who reapeatedly post over and over again complaining about it. Jeez..
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Pray tell, which stickies are outdated???
My index thread here is updated at least weekly (sometimes more often, if there is a lot of dev activity). And the date it was last updated is clearly indicated in the thread title.
This index thread clearly lists the working root methods; and what firmware the method applies to is clearly stated, either in the thread title, or I've made a note to indicate it.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1673110
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Seriously? Those are warnings not to post questions in those forums. There aren't meant to be up to date root guides!
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Not trying to be dis-respectful at all, but you asked what was outdated.
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I'll agree that my index can use some updates as you suggest (although some of your comments are a bit too nitpicky for my taste). But you're talking about a few lines of a rather extensive index. To dismiss it all as "outdated" is an insult to many hours I've taken to create and continually maintain the thread. Your tone may not be disrespectful, but it certainly sounds ungrateful.
If you had issues with the index, you should have replied on that thread with your suggestions or PMed me when you found the updated items, just like I ask in the intro to the index. Complaining about it in another thread is the wrong way to have gone about it.
With respect to you, and not realizing it is your thread, I can understand you being frustrated with all the work you put in to it. So, I'm reply basically to say thanks for the work that you do.
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Seriously? Those are warnings not to post questions in those forums. There aren't meant to be up to date root guides!
I'll agree that my index can use some updates as you suggest (although some of your comments are a bit too nitpicky for my taste). But you're talking about a few lines of a rather extensive index. To dismiss it all as "outdated" is an insult to many hours I've taken to create and maintain the thread. Your tone may not be disrespectful, but it certainly sounds ungrateful.
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jeffreyjames said:
I wonder which is clogging up the forum more. People who "aren't searching properly" or the ones who reapeatedly post over and over again complaining about it. Jeez..
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I've spent a lot of time and effort to create and maintain the index thread for people to use. Its a sticky at the top of Development, no searching is required, and it lists most any resource you will need for this phone. Tons have people have gotten themselves into serious trouble soft or hard bricking their phones, or otherwise wasting a lot of time, when they could just used the index, and avoided all that.
I'm sorry I'm "clogging up the forum" with my index. With post like this, I sometimes wonder why I fricking bother.
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With respect to you, and not realizing it is your thread, I can understand you being frustrated with all the work you put in to it. So, I'm reply basically to say thanks for the work that you do.
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I think we were typing are responses at the same time. Thanks for the retraction. I was pretty pissed off by your earlier comment!
My apologies... I got frustrated because I've read so many people complaining about using search lately, that it seems more prevalent than the people not using search. I tried to delete the post after I wrote it, but since I'm new I had to wait 5 minutes. I replied after that post saying thanks for your work. Again, please accept my apologies and my gratitude for doing what you do.
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I've spent a lot of time and effort to create and maintain the index thread for people to use. Its a sticky at the top of Development, no searching is required, and it lists most any resource you will need for this phone. Tons have people have gotten themselves into serious trouble soft or hard bricking their phones, or otherwise wasting a lot of time, when they could just used the index, and avoided all that.
I'm sorry I'm "clogging up the forum" with my index. With post like this, I sometimes wonder why I fricking bother.
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My apologies... I got frustrated because I've read so many people complaining about using search lately, that it seems more prevalent than the people not using search. I tried to delete the post after I wrote it, but since I'm new I had to wait 5 minutes. I replied after that post saying thanks for your work. Again, please accept my apologies and my gratitude for doing what you do.
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Heh, were are getting good at cross posting with each other! See the second part of post #11 above (posted the same exact minute as your post!). I saw your post above (#10), thanks for the subsequent retraction/apology.
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Seriously? Those are warnings not to post questions in those forums. There aren't meant to be up to date root guides!
I'll agree that my index can use some updates as you suggest (although some of your comments are a bit too nitpicky for my taste). But you're talking about a few lines of a rather extensive index. To dismiss it all as "outdated" is an insult to many hours I've taken to create and continually maintain the thread. Your tone may not be disrespectful, but it certainly sounds ungrateful.
If you had issues with the index, you should have replied on that thread with your suggestions or PMed me when you found the updated items, just like I ask in the intro to the index. Complaining about it in another thread is the wrong way to have gone about it.
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Both of those stickies link to root methods that do not work. They are in the General and Q&A sections, and are titled for N00Bs to start there. As a N00b to this device that is where I started. That is the only sticky in the Q&A section, and my first question was "How do I root this phone?" In the Samsung forums these types of guides are in the General section.
As I said I do not mean to be ungreatful or disrespectful. That is why I did not complain it's outdated in the thread. Something that is taboo on XDA. Lowly members are flamed for challenging RCs, Devs, or Mods. I understand you put a lot of time into that thread. I can imagine the countless hours you put into compiling it. I think that rooting the phone is the most important part of that guide because nothing else in the guide is possible without root, and as such it should be accurate and clear. It's also the most confusing part of the guide, and the One X forum in general. I do appreciate the time and effort you put into your guide, and if I thought suggestions on the thread would be have been received peacefully I would have commented there, I apologize for bringing my issues up in a way that offended you. The Samsung forums have a total different feel and unwritten procedure, I am still getting used to the One X forum.
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As I said I do not mean to be ungreatful or disrespectful. That is why I did not complain it's outdated in the thread. Something that is taboo on XDA. Lowly members are flamed for challenging RCs, Devs, or Mods. I understand you put a lot of time into that thread. I can imagine the countless hours you put into compiling it. I think that rooting the phone is the most important part of that guide because nothing else in the guide is possible without root, and as such it should be accurate and clear. It's also the most confusing part of the guide, and the One X forum in general. I do appreciate the time and effort you put into your guide, and if I thought suggestions on the thread would be have been received peacefully I would have commented there, I apologize for bringing my issues up in a way that offended you. The Samsung forums have a total different feel and unwritten procedure, I am still getting used to the One X forum.
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I've been around here for 5 years, over the course of 5 devices, and I've never seen anyone flamed for suggesting to correct/revise a guide. Asking for ETA on a ROM update is the closest I've seen to what you are saying (usually not a good idea). But people who have written guides, indexes, etc. are typically very open to comments on how to improve their thread and keep it up to date. They made the thread to help people, and want nothing more than to have it do so effectively. If they don't update it, its usually because they don't have the time.
Also keep in mind that my index is meant to be a listing of resources, not a guide, per se. I've tried to add some additional info in the index to help folks along. But I can't claim to be an expert on every link (or anything close to an expert). For instance, when it come to root, I rooted way back on 1.73. So I've never even tried any subsequent root methods. Therefore I can't personally validate them, I can only try to comment on what I've read others post.
Not being a developer, the index is the one thing I give back to this community (along with random posts trying to help others). I'm completely open to suggestions to make the index better, and more up to date. I've already incorporated the suggestions you made earlier.
Cheers.