[size=+1]Simple wireless charging - Ten Minutes & Under Ten Pounds[/size]
Confirmed working on the:
International Note II GT-N7100
International Note II GT-N7105
AT&T Note II (Confirmed working)
Sprint Note II (has no slots for charging pins, but confirmed working when taking the middle housing cover off and finding the wireless charging contacts underneath)
Have a look at this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33833217&postcount=240
Canadian i317M Note II (Bell Canada)
Confirmed not working on the:
US TMobile Note II SGH-T889 (Has the charging pins for wireless charging)
Please see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1978276
vinas1 has just released some instructions on how you could get the wireless charging mod to work on the Tmobile Note II version.
Check it out here
[size=+1]Please do this mod at your own risk[/size]
[size=+1]Big Thanks to m055 who has posted a video guide on Youtube check it out from here[/size]
I've decided to go ahead and do the mod for the wireless charging as i've seen a few threads tempting me.
What you need is:
Palm Touchstone £5.24 (Amazon UK)
Palm Pre Touchstone case £3.49 (eBay)
Electrical Tape
Copper foil tape [thanks rj3005]
Solder Iron & Solder
You can also use thin wire to do this mod if you don't have copper tape handy.
This all cost me under £10 excluding the solder iron. You might find it cheaper shopping around.
I first took the induction coil out of the Palm Pre case carefully.
!!! Its very important that you peel the silver sticker off carefully and not cause any sharp bends which could cause cracking. You need this silver sticker to stay intact for the whole operation to work!!!
The top pin is positive and bottom is negative as shown in the picture, this is also the same on the note the top pin being positive and bottom negative.
I placed the coil in the center of the Note battery case I then placed the silver sticker over the coil as it was on the Palm Pre (this is very important that you place the silver sticker back over the coil as without it the induction doesn't seem to work.)
I then checked where the charging pins on the note meets with the case and marked it with a pen to indicate where the wires copper tape would have to be.
Using copper tape, I stuck two tracks going from the charging circuit to the charging pins positions, make sure you leave enough copper track to fold the tape twice over itself to create a spring going against the charging pins.
Solder the track to the charging circuit by tinning the end of the copper track and soldering it to charging circuit contacts, then cut electrical tape to size and place it over the copper track. After place the original insulation cover over the coil with the magnets.
I placed the battery cover over the Palm Touchstone dock and checked the voltage from the copper track with a meter (should be 5.6V any less means you have left the silver foil off or not placed it correctly) to check everything is working and the polarity is correct.
I placed it back on my phone and there you go, I now have wireless charging.
NFC works and magnets do not affect the phone testing the S Pen and Compass seem to operate all good.
List of successful mods completed:
XenonAndroid
nm8 also see this (impressive)
BigladUK
Framedtrash (n7105)
aaronrkelly (how to do the mod with the missing wireless charging pins)
be_vigilant
mgrey
henge
snakeman65
opentoideas (Samsung Flip Cover)
There is probably more successful mods then whats on this list, please post about your success and I will add it to here but also post about if you are having trouble getting this working and I'm sure somebody will be able to advice and help you here!
German tutorial with good pictures of the Pre and Pixi casing(thanks Frank2)
Sorry if its a bit brief, I will try and write it up a bit better.
[size=+1]EDIT: Measurements I've taken
Output Voltage 4.8V (5.6V disconnected)
Output Amps 0.42A[/size]
EDIT: Added pictures of the Galaxy Note on the dock in portrait & landscape
EDIT: I've now swapped my wires over to copper tape
EDIT: nm8 has just posted a solder less alternative [MOD] Note 2 Wireless Charging [Origami style][No Solder]
You can use the Palm Pixi case to do this mod but its very important that you double check the polarity to the charging pins. Do not connect straight to the charging pins until your sure which pins are positive and negative, you could cause damage to your phone Info Regarding the Pixi
EDIT: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33861324&postcount=77 QI Wireless Charging Mod
Placed this thread in the wrong section, could a MOD please move it.
Very impressive! :good:
Ryan_G said:
Placed this thread in the wrong section, could a MOD please move it.
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Great MOD
Moved to original development
What gage speaker wire I want to duplicate your process perfectly what type of soder did u use
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Does the back cover fit without problem after this mod?
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You, or, someone should make a video and post it on the OP.
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What gage speaker wire I want to duplicate your process perfectly what type of soder did u use
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When I get home, I will have a look at the speaker cable but i'm not entirely sure, and for the solder I don't think the guage matters as you are only soldering on the charging circuit pins and creating a solder ball on the end of the wires. For the actual wires I recommend stripping the insulation off completly and then replacing it with heat shrink as this creates a thin layer of insulation.
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Does the back cover fit without problem after this mod?
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Yes the back cover fits perfectly, you can not feel the coil or the charging circuit but you can feel a slight bump where the wires go but its not noticeable. Its quite a nice fit and handy as the Palm Pre modules lines up perfectly for polarity, you may even get away with having the circuit with the pins directly lined up to the note charging ports to prevent feeling the wires and just extend the coil itself.
What does it look like actually ON the Touchstone? It it stable?
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Yes the back cover fits perfectly, you can not feel the coil or the charging circuit but you can feel a slight bump where the wires go but its not noticeable. Its quite a nice fit and handy as the Palm Pre modules lines up perfectly for polarity, you may even get away with having the circuit with the pins directly lined up to the note charging ports to prevent feeling the wires and just extend the coil itself.
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Your speaker wires are really thick I would use 0.7mm lacquered copper wire
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What does it look like actually ON the Touchstone? It it stable?
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I will post a picture of it when I get home, but it is quite stable on the touchstone it holds it up. It will come off the magnetic field if you physically knock it off but it wouldn't come off if you knocked the table or anything its on.
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Your speaker wires are really thick I would use 0.7mm lacquered copper wire
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I think the speaker cable I used was about 1mm thick i will double check but 0.7mm would be best, but with a 1mm you hardly notice it on the case anyways.
Great mod, it's pretty cool how android has picked up the wireless charge, I didn't even know it was natively supported. What is the charging time like compared to a normal tethered charge?
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wow nice and cheap... what's the voltage coming out from the coil ?
RavenY2K3 said:
Great mod, it's pretty cool how android has picked up the wireless charge, I didn't even know it was natively supported. What is the charging time like compared to a normal tethered charge?
Sent from my GT-N7100 using Tapatalk 2
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It will take around 6-7hrs to full charge. Not great ...
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wow nice and cheap... what's the voltage coming out from the coil ?
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I measured 5.6V from the output, but I didn't measure the actual coil itself.
RavenY2K3 said:
Great mod, it's pretty cool how android has picked up the wireless charge, I didn't even know it was natively supported. What is the charging time like compared to a normal tethered charge?
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I'm not so sure, it was something I quickly did before I went to work not had a play with it yet. I'm home now so I've docked it on the charger at 50% so I will report back in hour with what percentage it is at.
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I measured 5.6V from the output, but I didn't measure the actual coil itself.
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Thanks for hte quick reply.
I have 2 concerns:
1. will 5.6v fry the battery sooner ? (forgot to ask the ouput amperage)
2. if the back cover bulges, it might crack the cover sooner or later..
what do you think ?
thanks
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Thanks for hte quick reply.
I have 2 concerns:
1. will 5.6v fry the battery sooner ? (forgot to ask the ouput amperage)
2. if the back cover bulges, it might crack the cover sooner or later..
what do you think ?
thanks
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When I measured the output i didn't have a load on it, so I would expect a slight drop in the output voltage. I will measure the amps tomorrow, to see what its drawing I will plug it in to the Samsung 2A charger but i got a feeling its limited to what it can draw. I couldn't comment on whether it will fry the battery sooner but I will also measure the voltage to see if there is a drop.
The back cover has minimum bulge, hardly noticeable. You can always use thinner wire if your worried about the bulge like 'rj3005' mentioned about using 0.7mm. I highly doubt the cover would crack as its quite flexible in itself.
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When I measured the output i didn't have a load on it, so I would expect a slight drop in the output voltage. I will measure the amps tomorrow, to see what its drawing I will plug it in to the Samsung 2A charger but i got a feeling its limited to what it can draw. I couldn't comment on whether it will fry the battery sooner but I will also measure the voltage to see if there is a drop.
The back cover has minimum bulge, hardly noticeable. You can always use thinner wire if your worried about the bulge like 'rj3005' mentioned about using 0.7mm. I highly doubt the cover would crack as its quite flexible in itself.
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Can I just clarify one thing, do you mean the buldge is caused by the x2 cables that you soldered to the terminals and not the actual big circular coil (sorry don't know what its called). cheers
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Can I just clarify one thing, do you mean the buldge is caused by the x2 cables that you soldered to the terminals and not the actual big circular coil (sorry don't know what its called). cheers
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Yes the actual 'coil and charging circuit' doesn't bulge only the two cables you can slightly feel going from the charging circuit terminals to the galaxy note wireless charging ports.
Like I said the bulge is very minimal, nothing which concerns me but could be overcome my using thinner cable then what I used.
Related
Not sure if this belongs in general or not, but just wanted to give everyone a heads up.
Last night I torn my phone apart to try and be the first one to do the palm inductive charger hack on a sensation, but once I got to the lower circuit board I noticed that the usb pins are way too close to the chip set and are permanently shielded with a metal shroud. I also noticed that there are no + or - terminals like on the EVO so it looks like a no-go for us so far.
Just a warning so you don't waste money on buying the palm stuff and tearing your phone apart.
Hmm, I just did a mod on my Galaxy Nexus (easy due to the pogo pins) and am pretty determined to do it on the wifes Sensation. I work with micro-miniature solder technicians so I'm not worried about that, guess I'll have to cut the shroud away to expose the USB connector though. That might get a little messy. I'll post pics if I can get it to work! Honestly, with the popularity of this phone, I'm surprised nobody has gotten the high WAF mod to work yet.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1283200
This guy made it work with a Sensation.
Daiskei said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1283200
This guy made it work with a Sensation.
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Yep, and I commented in that thread as well lol.
kpjimmy said:
Yep, and I commented in that thread as well lol.
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Oh... Hah... Ooops!
farfromovin said:
Hmm, I just did a mod on my Galaxy Nexus (easy due to the pogo pins) and am pretty determined to do it on the wifes Sensation. I work with micro-miniature solder technicians so I'm not worried about that, guess I'll have to cut the shroud away to expose the USB connector though. That might get a little messy. I'll post pics if I can get it to work! Honestly, with the popularity of this phone, I'm surprised nobody has gotten the high WAF mod to work yet.
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I think the biggest issue is the unibody case. Even if you get the soldering, or conductive glue down the inductive current won't make it through the stock case. I tried. You'll have to sandwich the inductive circuit between the phone and case.
I have since removed the inductive circuit because the tiny (prob around 32 gauge) wire broke and I didn't feel like rebuilding it. Assuming you could get the circuitry down using the positive resistor you might be able to solder a larger coil that may pick up through the case. If you figure it out I would be thrilled to know how you did it.
The only real reason I wanted to do it was because no one had done it on our phones yet. Good luck!
Nice find on that old thread. I've been wanting to do the same with my Sensation. Any idea about the fatty Mugen case? Just picked one up for $20. Seems a lot cheaper. Is the problem with the OEM case metal in the housing? Maybe this Mugen is all plastic.
There's a ton of space between the sim/sdcard and the housing (for the housing to be able to accommodate the double battery) and may be the perfect spot.
My idea is to hide a dozen rechargeable AA's or so inside a leather belt and have a holster (or pocket powermat). Seems like an actual reasonable use for inductive charging. Of course, it's just conceptual at this point. I need to determine if AA's are actually feasible (comfort and style wise) and whatever the inefficiencies are with inductive charging.
Looking to be able to go a week or so without having to recharge the phone/belt (figure I'm running through 1500mah every 10 hours or so, less when sleeping).
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Nice find on that old thread. I've been wanting to do the same with my Sensation. Any idea about the fatty Mugen case? Just picked one up for $20. Seems a lot cheaper. Is the problem with the OEM case metal in the housing? Maybe this Mugen is all plastic.
There's a ton of space between the sim/sdcard and the housing (for the housing to be able to accommodate the double battery) and may be the perfect spot.
My idea is to hide a dozen rechargeable AA's or so inside a leather belt and have a holster (or pocket powermat). Seems like an actual reasonable use for inductive charging. Of course, it's just conceptual at this point. I need to determine if AA's are actually feasible (comfort and style wise) and whatever the inefficiencies are with inductive charging.
Looking to be able to go a week or so without having to recharge the phone/belt (figure I'm running through 1500mah every 10 hours or so, less when sleeping).
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That sounds good, but with the weight of the rechargeables may pose a issue when it comes to portability when you are talking about a dozen of them. Why not just carry along a power bank? I have a 10000mAh one that charges two devices at once and is no bigger than a phone.
I mean I love the idea of inductive charging. I mean the GSIII has the option to do so.
I got one of these recently for my vacation. It takes AA batteries which is easily available or you can use rechargeables.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Emergency-U...124278?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item2a1aac4676
I think I'll try this one out but I do have one question. Is having 1 pin (assuming it is 5v) enough to complete the circuit? Doesn't it need a ground lead somewhere?
The pic is from http://www.qianqin.de/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/microusb.jpg
I don't understand your picture. Yes, you need a ground to complete the circuit. And without manipulating the data pins, you will be limited to a charge rate of 100mA.
ladys and gentlemen. assuming you are happy with only the 100ma cap then could you not logically just connect the wires to the battery terminals and allow that to charge it. leaving the usb port free?? i have had to do this once or twice in emergency situations when i didnt have the correct charging cable but had a damaged usb + laptop.
Yes, you will need to ground to any metal point to complete the circuit. I just sandwiched the wire between the sim and metal sim holder.
I'm in the process of doing the same thing to my Sensation. I wanted to make sure that the Touchstone charger would support the weight of my phone in it's case, so I took the short cut of using parts from a microUSB charger to route from the induction coil terminals to the charge port. I'm halfway through routing all the necessary connections to go through the board instead of the charge port. In the attached picture, I've highlighted 2 test points that will let you route your +5v line into the board. I'll use the metal housing of the sim card reader to attach the ground.
hxxp://i.imgur.com/koag4.png
Since the back of the phone is metal and its always going to be in a case I'm going to have to use pogo plugs or some other form of metal contacts to go through the back housing to allow me to pull off the case/back whenever I need. I'll have my charge port free to use over USB as well
Did you get it working?
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I'm in the process of doing the same thing to my Sensation. I wanted to make sure that the Touchstone charger would support the weight of my phone in it's case, so I took the short cut of using parts from a microUSB charger to route from the induction coil terminals to the charge port. I'm halfway through routing all the necessary connections to go through the board instead of the charge port. In the attached picture, I've highlighted 2 test points that will let you route your +5v line into the board. I'll use the metal housing of the sim card reader to attach the ground.
hxxp://i.imgur.com/koag4.png
Since the back of the phone is metal and its always going to be in a case I'm going to have to use pogo plugs or some other form of metal contacts to go through the back housing to allow me to pull off the case/back whenever I need. I'll have my charge port free to use over USB as well
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Hi there, I have a htc sensation with a broken usb port and want to use it for inductive charging instead. So im wondering if you managed to ever get it working?
Regards Shaun.
I did!, but not with pogo plugs for an elegant solution. I ended up just running the wires from the inductive charger through a hole drilled into the metal back and than routed to the pad shown in the picture and the sim card metal housing.
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I did!, but not with pogo plugs for an elegant solution. I ended up just running the wires from the inductive charger through a hole drilled into the metal back and than routed to the pad shown in the picture and the sim card metal housing.
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Did you have difficulty with the metal backing interfering with the induction charger?
Just in case anyone else runs across this, the Uniden wireless charging base, UN904 looks promising, but I can attest to the fact that it does not work for us. Sucks too, because they were normally $30, on clearance for $15 at your local Walgreens. I picked one up and could get the charger to see the phone (LED turns from green to red) but the phone never went into charging mode. I even left if a while to see if it would kick in and it just slowly drained as usual. So I returned it. Just thought I'd share.
http://www.walgreens.com/store/c/uniden-complete-wireless-charging-system-un904/ID=prod6096741-product
-AngryHog™
UN904 DOES work
I just received mine and it charges the LG Nexus 4 Just fine . You just have to have to face the USB port side of the phone towards the "Uniden" logo. Will post a YouTube video soon.
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I just received mine and it charges the LG Nexus 4 Just fine . You just have to have to face the USB port side of the phone towards the "Uniden" logo. Will post a YouTube video soon.
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I would like to know about this too! lemme know if youre having trouble posting links (I can do it for ya, send me a PM)
Any idea what the power requirements are? as I can't seem to find any info.
Could you please let me know if the power adaptor can handle 240v AC ?
Thanks!
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Looks like it does.
The AC Adaptor on the one I got reads:
"SWITCHING AC/DC POWER ADAPTER"
Model FLD0710-12.0V1000mA
I/P: AC 100-240V 50/60HZ 0.5A
O/P DC 12.0V 1000mA
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Looks like it does.
The AC Adaptor on the one I got reads:
"SWITCHING AC/DC POWER ADAPTER"
Model FLD0710-12.0V1000mA
I/P: AC 100-240V 50/60HZ 0.5A
O/P DC 12.0V 1000mA
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Perfect Thanks!
Notes on operation
Also, weirdly enough, it only seems to work when it is on a conductive surface: It worked fine on my work desk (it is laminated metal) but refused to power the kitchen table until I placed a metal lid under the charger (possible grounding issue???)
I have recorded both videos of the charger working and the grounding phenomenon, but cannot post direct links yet, I will PM the kind gentleman who offered to post them for me.
I will continue the experimentation and report back
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Also, weirdly enough, it only seems to work when it is on a conductive surface: It worked fine on my work desk (it is laminated metal) but refused to power the kitchen table until I placed a metal lid under the charger (possible grounding issue???)
I have recorded both videos of the charger working and the grounding phenomenon, but cannot post direct links yet, I will PM the kind gentleman who offered to post them for me.
I will continue the experimentation and report back
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkyHVCAZhR4
Thanks!
-=BaDZeD=- said:
Also, weirdly enough, it only seems to work when it is on a conductive surface: It worked fine on my work desk (it is laminated metal) but refused to power the kitchen table until I placed a metal lid under the charger (possible grounding issue???)
I have recorded both videos of the charger working and the grounding phenomenon, but cannot post direct links yet, I will PM the kind gentleman who offered to post them for me.
I will continue the experimentation and report back
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here ya go :
working : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkyHVCAZhR4&feature=youtu.be
non-working/with issues : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbAJYvYUe48&feature=youtu.be
by the way, did you managed to get it fully charged? Are there any issues like the nokia charger where it cycles between charging and non-charging?
Re: youtube
Thank you for posting the links
Sorry about the video quality: took the video with a cheap point and shoot during breaks at work.
Seemed to be charging OK at work. Just brought it home, set it on a metal plate (in the future, I might just glue tin foil to the base), and its working fine again. Does not seem to have any cycling so far. Will report in the morning on the charging status.
Overall - a good use of $10
I can't believe it! IT WORKS!
I picked up one of these Uniden UN904 chargers from Amazon because this post in another thread claimed it worked with the Nexus 4:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=34630397&postcount=433
I thought, "what the heck, it's only $5, shipping included." The Amazon listing actually described the item as a Wireless Gear 5WC800, but when it arrived it was actually a Uniden UN904. From looking at the pictures I'm sure it's the exact same item, just rebranded for Uniden. The problem is, it didn't work at all. By playing around with how I placed the Nexus 4 on the charging pad I could trigger the charging light on the pad to turn red (charging indicator) but the phone would not charge and the charging indicator on the phone never came on.
I was about to give the charging pad to a friend that has an iPhone 4 when I read this thread tonight. Excited, I tried putting the Uniden charging pad on a steel cookie sheet before attempting to charge my phone. No go. I tried putting it on a stainless steel frying pan. No go. Then I tried putting it on an aluminum non-stick griddle pan. IT STARTED CHARGING! I think this charging pad needs a non-ferrous (not iron, not steel) metal underneath it in order to charge the Nexus 4. So tried putting it on the sheet of aluminum foil. IT STILL CHARGES! Then I cut a small rectangle of aluminum foil a little smaller than the back the of charging pad and scotch-taped it to the back of the pad. AND IT STILL CHARGES! I'm stoked for only $5.
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I picked up one of these Uniden UN904 chargers from Amazon because this post in another thread claimed it worked with the Nexus 4: Then I cut a small rectangle of aluminum foil a little smaller than the back the of charging pad and scotch-taped it to the back of the pad. AND IT STILL CHARGES! I'm stoked for only $5.
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Thanks for your input. I am going to go to my local Walgreens which supposedly has it in stock and get one. If they work out great I will get 1 or 2 more lol. I'm out of thanks today so i'll hit you one tomorrow
wtang said:
I picked up one of these Uniden UN904 chargers from Amazon because this post in another thread claimed it worked with the Nexus 4:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=34630397&postcount=433
I thought, "what the heck, it's only $5, shipping included." The Amazon listing actually described the item as a Wireless Gear 5WC800, but when it arrived it was actually a Uniden UN904. From looking at the pictures I'm sure it's the exact same item, just rebranded for Uniden. The problem is, it didn't work at all. By playing around with how I placed the Nexus 4 on the charging pad I could trigger the charging light on the pad to turn red (charging indicator) but the phone would not charge and the charging indicator on the phone never came on.
I was about to give the charging pad to a friend that has an iPhone 4 when I read this thread tonight. Excited, I tried putting the Uniden charging pad on a steel cookie sheet before attempting to charge my phone. No go. I tried putting it on a stainless steel frying pan. No go. Then I tried putting it on an aluminum non-stick griddle pan. IT STARTED CHARGING! I think this charging pad needs a non-ferrous (not iron, not steel) metal underneath it in order to charge the Nexus 4. So tried putting it on the sheet of aluminum foil. IT STILL CHARGES! Then I cut a small rectangle of aluminum foil a little smaller than the back the of charging pad and scotch-taped it to the back of the pad. AND IT STILL CHARGES! I'm stoked for only $5.
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Great! :good: Bought one used (last one, sorry guys) on amazon for $15 - $4.50 (cc points) = $10.50 shipped!! :silly::silly::silly:
These still on sale right?
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I wonder if we can use this trick to make the Duracell Powermat work with the Nexus 4. If anyone has the Powermat they should try putting it on a sheet of aluminum to see if it will work.
Also, after a bit of experimenting, it seems the thickness of the aluminum seems to make a difference. My Nexus 4 seems to charge faster when sitting on my non-stick griddle versus a sheet of thin aluminum foil. Plus, the charging pad is less finicky when on the non-stick griddle. When on the griddle, it will charge my Nexus 4 in both orientations (USB port facing the Uniden logo and also facing the opposite direction). When on the aluminum foil, it seems to only charge when my Nexus 4's USB is facing the Uniden logo.
I need to do more testing, but I gotta get to sleep. Will try again tomorrow.
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I wonder if we can use this trick to make the Duracell Powermat work with the Nexus 4. If anyone has the Powermat they should try putting it on a sheet of aluminum to see if it will work.
Also, after a bit of experimenting, it seems the thickness of the aluminum seems to make a difference. My Nexus 4 seems to charge faster when sitting on my non-stick griddle versus a sheet of thin aluminum foil. Plus, the charging pad is less finicky when on the non-stick griddle. When on the griddle, it will charge my Nexus 4 in both orientations (USB port facing the Uniden logo and also facing the opposite direction). When on the aluminum foil, it seems to only charge when my Nexus 4's USB is facing the Uniden logo.
I need to do more testing, but I gotta get to sleep. Will try again tomorrow.
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Same exact findings here. Was going to trash the charger until I put it down on an aluminum pot cover and it started working. Ironically I just bought the wcp-700 from Verizon today.
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wtang said:
I wonder if we can use this trick to make the Duracell Powermat work with the Nexus 4. If anyone has the Powermat they should try putting it on a sheet of aluminum to see if it will work.
Also, after a bit of experimenting, it seems the thickness of the aluminum seems to make a difference. My Nexus 4 seems to charge faster when sitting on my non-stick griddle versus a sheet of thin aluminum foil. Plus, the charging pad is less finicky when on the non-stick griddle. When on the griddle, it will charge my Nexus 4 in both orientations (USB port facing the Uniden logo and also facing the opposite direction). When on the aluminum foil, it seems to only charge when my Nexus 4's USB is facing the Uniden logo.
I need to do more testing, but I gotta get to sleep. Will try again tomorrow.
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The Powermat will not work. It is not Qi compatible.
wtang said:
I wonder if we can use this trick to make the Duracell Powermat work with the Nexus 4. If anyone has the Powermat they should try putting it on a sheet of aluminum to see if it will work.
Also, after a bit of experimenting, it seems the thickness of the aluminum seems to make a difference. My Nexus 4 seems to charge faster when sitting on my non-stick griddle versus a sheet of thin aluminum foil. Plus, the charging pad is less finicky when on the non-stick griddle. When on the griddle, it will charge my Nexus 4 in both orientations (USB port facing the Uniden logo and also facing the opposite direction). When on the aluminum foil, it seems to only charge when my Nexus 4's USB is facing the Uniden logo.
I need to do more testing, but I gotta get to sleep. Will try again tomorrow.
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How fast is this charging... this thing seems a bit weird. I would hate to kill the battery in our new phones but the price is so tempting!
Talking about what kind of pan to put our chargers on. Exactly why i love this community:beer:
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Here is something either scary or funny. I pulled out the instructions that came with the uniden charger and it states: "do not place charger on metal, aluminum or copper surface while in use"
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The dock is obviously great if you don't mind paying for it or get it free. However it's a bit clunky to carry around with you (if using a portable external battery) or in a car.
It's not a great option having to remove the waterproof flap all the time to charge as well.
So I got to thinking, could one modify an old mini / micro usb cable (I've tons of old micro ones laying around), so that the +/- cables go straight to the metal contacts on the Xz. I assume it is just a case of +/- on the docking connector? Would it matter if they were connected the wrong way...?
It'll be a bit of an in-elegant solution but to start with I was thinking of some bluetack and some sort of spacing connector bar to quickly press onto / pull off the phone.
I am pretty sure the polarity would matter, as it would be DC. However this is easy enough to check using a multimeter on the dock.
Good luck
For in-car use, I personally would put the sony charger there for the moment.
Brodit the in car holder maker will also make a version of holder which will use the contacts, but not sure when that will be out.
I'm wondering now if it might not be easier just to wait for a cheap chinese dock to come out on ebay. The dock's also got an advantage it'll hold your phone nicely if you want to use it with an external keyboard, or watch a film for example.
Just not keen on spending £25 on one.
I think it would be pretty easy to make your own, for the electrics would it just be a case of cutting the micro usb connector off then attaching red + black wires?
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I am pretty sure the polarity would matter, as it would be DC. However this is easy enough to check using a multimeter on the dock.
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Could someone with a dock check and post it?
Would be great.
This would be so cool. If it was like the Magsafe connectors on Macbooks it would be ideal. Probably not for me though. Hope you can do it.
Exactly what I was thinking off..
Taking the +/- 5V from the USB cable is not a problem. The main challenge is how to mount the 2 wires onto the metal contacts!
Removing the flaps has been pretty troublesome so far, especially when you're rushing off to somewhere and ya gotta use the GPS..
MasK said:
Exactly what I was thinking off..
Taking the +/- 5V from the USB cable is not a problem. The main challenge is how to mount the 2 wires onto the metal contacts!
Removing the flaps has been pretty troublesome so far, especially when you're rushing off to somewhere and ya gotta use the GPS..
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copper foil would be easiest way to make the contacts, I've used it a few times in the past with my DIY wireless chargers
MasK said:
Exactly what I was thinking off..
Taking the +/- 5V from the USB cable is not a problem. The main challenge is how to mount the 2 wires onto the metal contacts!
Removing the flaps has been pretty troublesome so far, especially when you're rushing off to somewhere and ya gotta use the GPS..
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I think that the biggest challange will be finding someone who will tell us which pin is + .....
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has anyone got a dock yet?
The 3rd party stockists haven't shipped them yet have they? The bundle/deal is a post out one..
made a sort of dock, using 2 pins from a computer molex connector + foil, held the correct distance apart with glue from a hot glue gun, but need to wait until someone can find out the polarity before trying it!
I have exactly the same DIY idea but I want to kill two birds in one stone – wireless charging and MagSafe type of mobile charging interface.
I target for Xperia Z for its IPX protection and 4G. Being an IPX certified device, the port covers are important that I don’t know why Sony doesn’t have wireless charging just like its competitor Panasonic (model P-02E has both wireless charging and replaceable battery) having. The charging dock can solve this shortcoming a bit but the dock is only good for placing at home or in the office. When charging with external battery pack on the road, the it is better to have some handy charging cable to charge through the 2-pin. Then MagSafe type of cable is a good candidate.
Googled a bit and found a flip case (Muvit Qi Wireless Charging Kit for Sony Xperia Z) with Qi charging ready and I wonder it is utilizing the 2-pin as well. If I do the DIY, I will use a thin plastic case with the following components:
1) attach a Qi/Touchstone charging coil at the inner back side of the case
2) on side edge of the case facing the 2-pin of the device, I will attach a new 2-pin port with 2 small iron plate on each end, the 2-pin will connect to the charging coil and acts as the connector for the 2-pin of the device and piggy-back to the dock for charging
3) MagSafe type of charging cable is made by a normal USB cable with one end chopped to make a 2-pin connector with 2 small permanent magnets on each end for attaching to the iron plate mounted on the case above
Great idea Kimmy, looking forward to your work! Let us know what parts you use and where you get them! Would be great !
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I was thinking of a simple clip onto the side over the pogo pins.
Has anyone got the polarity yet?
Those of you who maybe reading this and have the dock already please check the polarity.
And we have an answer!
The + is the upper pin, - is the lower
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=38868648
Time to start playing
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I've just built my mark1 dock from a few bits of spare wood and an old sony ericsson ct75 charger plug( from an old powermat powercube), I just moved the spring loaded pins on CT75 plug a little further apart to mate a little more comfortably with the contacts on the XZ.
Cost absolutley nothing so although it looks rubish I'm happy to have a working dock. and not have to open the charger flap anymore. Tomorrow I might cover it in soft black cloth and i'm sure it'll look much better.
I'm going to bend a bit of black or clear Acrylic for my next dock because it looks like you can get away with a kind of z profile, I'm also thinking about making something for my car
jimsey said:
I've just built my mark1 dock from a few bits of spare wood and an old sony ericsson ct75 charger plug( from an old powermat powercube), I just moved the spring loaded pins on CT75 plug a little further apart to mate a little more comfortably with the contacts on the XZ.
Cost absolutley nothing so although it looks rubish I'm happy to have a working dock. and not have to open the charger flap anymore. Tomorrow I might cover it in soft black cloth and i'm sure it'll look much better.
I'm going to bend a bit of black or clear Acrylic for my next dock because it looks like you can get away with a kind of z profile, I'm also thinking about making something for my car
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This is really cool, I have been working on something similar, but was having a hard time finding suitable pins(Tried just bare wire and foil!), Never thought of using the pits from an old Sony Ericsson charger
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This is really cool, I have been working on something similar, but was having a hard time finding suitable pins(Tried just bare wire and foil!), Never thought of using the pits from an old Sony Ericsson charger
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yeah I wanted spring loaded pins and came across the old sony charger adapter when looking through my box of spares.
I opened up the jack and the pins just slide out with some careful pulling and slide back into another position, I then trimmed off the 2 prongs sony use to hold the charger into the phone, then it was just a case of fixing the jack in place with some hot glue.
the other idea i had was nabbing the battery contacts out of one of my daughters old toys, or making contacts from copper foil, but i'm happy with this result.
As i said I'll cover it in Black felt or plether tomorrow, and i'm sure it look much neater
What about instead of making a dock, just making a small, magnetized connector that attaches directly to the pins?
I'm still waiting for the phone to be released here so cant experiment but do you think this could be achievable?
I'm going to have a go at a small clip on using sugru/silicon rubber
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This is my first how-to thread, please rate and thank if you please.
I saw this mentioned in a previous XDA thread and decided to try it.
I found it pretty easy to do but be patient and have a light touch. This can ruin your accessories or phone, proceed at your own risk!
Let me know if this works for you and feel free to add your techniques and tricks! I will update the OP and add them to the guide.
Tools and supplies:
Flat head screwdriver or two with a thin blade (~3/8" is best don't use a microdriver)
Thin plastic card (insurance cards work well)
OEM Wireless charging back
Stock back cover (Optional if you have a snug case)
OPTIONAL: Spudger Set. (I didn't use mine but it won't hurt.)
OPTIONAL: Hair Dryer or heat gun.
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v1.1 Added head spreader removal
v1.2 Added heat gun suggestion
v1.3 Added video guide link to OP
v1.4 Added link to non-OEM Receivers
v1.5 Added suggestion to simply not use the stock back at all if you have a snug case.
v1.6 Added advice how to remove the "heat spreader".
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cbutters said:
Thanks for the guide.
I made a video tutorial for those who want to watch the process done.
http://youtu.be/E9j6Yvs1ufc
Props to BuddhaFool for this!
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Be aware there are are premade third party receiving coils which do not involve hacking apart perfectly good innocent hardware that did nothing to you and probably does not deserve to be treated this way. Several us of us have found that the OEM coil runs cooler and seem perform better but your milage may vary.
Here are some alternatives listed by cnlson:
cnlson said:
http://mugen.co/mugenizer-samsung-galaxy-note-4-wireless-charging-receiver-qi-standard.html
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_s...te 4 qi receiver&sprefix=note+4+qi+re,aps,246
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1. Gently wedge the screwblade in between the covers. Near the top under the headphone jack there is a nice spot.
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2. Move the screw driver slowly around the edges twisting it to pry apart the plastic pieces, working from top to bottom. On the bottom edge be careful not to damage the circuit board, just loosen the plastic surrounding it.
3. Repeat the process around the camera and speaker cut outs.
4. At this point you can pull apart the halves.
5. Unstick the edges of the bottom circuit board first. Just loosen the edges don't pop it out all the way. You can use the plastic card or a spudger. (I used the screwdriver here and was just very careful, use at your own risk.)
Alternatively:
homer285 said:
Great post thanks for sharing, I used a heat gun to loosen the glue and it came apart with no force or heavy pry tools. A hair dryer would work too and possibly a safer alternative to a screw driver or heat gun, but thats only my opinion.
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6. Push the contacts in from the back to give you an edge to start from. From this point on focus on minimizing the bending of the coil sheet. Try to keep it as flat as possible.
7. You can gently bend the entire plastic back around each edge this will make the glue start to unstick.
8. Insert the card under the top contact posts and slowly worry it down unsticking the coil. Again try to not sharply bend the sticker, patience is your friend here.
9. I found it useful to keep bending the plastic and sticking the card in deeper and deeper to keep my progress.
10. When I finished the last bit of glue the sticker popped off suddenly taking the circuit board with it. Glad I loosened that first.
10.5. Optional: Pry the metal tray for the circuit board out of the back cover as well. (Slip screwdriver into the crack and slide it popping out the plastic "rivets".) Place under the board in the next step. I did not do this at first, but after some reflection I think this might be a heat spreader to protect the circuitry from the battery. It has not impacted fit.
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One think I did differently on the hack- I was careful not to bend the metal heat shield. I then removed it by taking a small x-acto knife and cutting off the plastic heads from the rivets. I then bent the back around all four sides of the metal plate and removed it from the old back. After peeling the adhesive from around the edges I put it under the circuit board and then put the Note 4 back into the case I have.
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11. Put the Receiver coil sticker on your phone carefully aligning the contact posts.
12. The stock back closes snugly and securely. I read that some people had to file down the contact posts but that was not the case here.
13. It is now works wonderfully with my Ballistic Urbanite Case*. It is charging in both landscape and portrait.
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OK I am using my phone without the back (it is snug in my case) and it seems to be much less finicky. The stock battery door seems to be interfering.
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* - I loooove this case. It is so protective and slim. :good: I literally bought seven different cases. The best ones would never fit around that accursed OEM back and the third party recievers would overheat my phone. The ones that fit were either enormous slabs or under protective. Now that it fits I am such a happy a camper! :victory:
Great post thanks for sharing, I used a heat gun to loosen the glue and it came apart with no force or heavy pry tools. A hair dryer would work too and possibly a safer alternative to a screw driver or heat gun, but thats only my opinion.
When I had my Nokia 925 I removed the qi coil from the charging cover and imbedded it in the back cover so that it didn't need the case to charge. Worked great for over 6 months while I had the phone and is still working with my friends son who is using it now.
Thanks for the detailed write up.
homer285 said:
Great post thanks for sharing, I used a heat gun to loosen the glue and it came apart with no force or heavy pry tools. A hair dryer would work too and possibly a safer alternative to a screw driver or heat gun, but thats only my opinion.
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Unfortunately, the hair dryer trick did not work in my case. They used a LOT of glue and it cured pretty well - I ended up ripping up parts of the second plastic layer in 3 of the heaviest concentration of glue were. The poor cover looks wrecked..
Fortunately - I was able to extract the charging coils without any issues.
Does anyone have any issues with NFC? I am using a UAG TPU case and with the case on, NFC does not work. I'm wondering if it is the distance or if I damaged the NFC portion of the charger....
EDIT: NVM - I took out apart again and reseated everything - NFC is working again. I tried to cut one of the NFC pins - and accidentally snapped one of the pins off.. Everything still appears to work though, so not sure what it was for...
Thanks BhuddaFool for the pictures. (Already clicked on the Thanks button - hint, hint)
ksoze said:
Does anyone have any issues with NFC? I am using a UAG TPU case and with the case on, NFC does not work. I'm wondering if it is the distance or if I damaged the NFC portion of the charger.... :confused
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I don't use NFC sorry. Is there a quick test I can do to replicate?
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I don't use NFC sorry. Is there a quick test I can do to replicate?
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A fun way to test NFC would be to find a Credit card that has contact-less payment - Mastercard PayPass for example. Your phone needs to be active and unlocked, once you scan it, you should hear a beep. A fun app to pair with this is, AnyTag NFC Launcher- it will take the ID of the NFC tag and use that as a trigger to perform actions.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.anytag.android&hl=en
Otherwise you would need another phone, or actual NFC tags - I eventually ended up buying a few NFC tags and have them at my desk, in my car etc.
I've edited my post - NFC is indeed working - looks like the pins were not in contact correctly before.
Thanks for the guide.
I made a video tutorial for those who want to watch the process done.
http://youtu.be/E9j6Yvs1ufc
Props to BuddhaFool for this!
I did this mod last weekend. NFC works fine without a case, I have some of the Samsung Techtiles and was able to test and program one.
Question though, I have 2 Q1 chargers; 1-Nokia (at home) and 1-Samsung mini (at work). The Nokia one gives me absolutely no issues at all with charging, but the Samsung one is now really (extremely) particular about placement. It wasn't like that prior to the mod, but now its more likely to flash the amber light than charge. I noticed the non-qi back plate has a very thin copper lining in one part that is covered by a very thin sticker film. Should that be removed? Any one else do this and experience similar issues with the Samsung mini charger?
I am glad it is working for you. FYI: I dug up an NFC chip and tried that app. Nice find and it works great through my Ballistic Urbanite case . I can't wait to setup my Airdock 2 with it. (It just arrived)
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Otherwise you would need another phone, or actual NFC tags - I eventually ended up buying a few NFC tags and have them at my desk, in my car etc.
I've edited my post - NFC is indeed working - looks like the pins were not in contact correctly before.
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alfredtv said:
I did this mod last weekend. NFC works fine without a case, I have some of the Samsung Techtiles and was able to test and program one.
Question though, I have 2 Q1 chargers; 1-Nokia (at home) and 1-Samsung mini (at work). The Nokia one gives me absolutely no issues at all with charging, but the Samsung one is now really (extremely) particular about placement. It wasn't like that prior to the mod, but now its more likely to flash the amber light than charge. I noticed the non-qi back plate has a very thin copper lining in one part that is covered by a very thin sticker film. Should that be removed? Any one else do this and experience similar issues with the Samsung mini charger?
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Sorry I have a TYLT Vu (work), a Keedox Qi Wireless 3-Coil (home) and a Airdock (car). It works fine portrait and landscape with all of those. It is possible that is more finicky too.
Interesting, I see that sticker you are referring to, I'll take your word that it has copper under there. Browsing Amazon it looks like even the cheap knock off battery doors have that strip too. Maybe it is a NFC antenna?
cbutters said:
Thanks for the guide.
I made a video tutorial for those who want to watch the process done.
http://youtu.be/E9j6Yvs1ufc
Props to BuddhaFool for this!
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Nice thanks for the vid, I still think you could have put much more heat in to it, would have made the job easier and safer than heavy prying.
I've done it with a hair dryer also but need to heat it for at least 5 minutes moving the dryer frequently not to isolate one area too long, but anyway great job and good clear vid dude.
OK I am using my phone without the back (it is snug in my case) and it seems to be much less finicky. The stock battery door seems to be interfering.
alfredtv said:
I did this mod last weekend. NFC works fine without a case, I have some of the Samsung Techtiles and was able to test and program one.
Question though, I have 2 Q1 chargers; 1-Nokia (at home) and 1-Samsung mini (at work). The Nokia one gives me absolutely no issues at all with charging, but the Samsung one is now really (extremely) particular about placement. It wasn't like that prior to the mod, but now its more likely to flash the amber light than charge. I noticed the non-qi back plate has a very thin copper lining in one part that is covered by a very thin sticker film. Should that be removed? Any one else do this and experience similar issues with the Samsung mini charger?
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I got my original charging back today. This mod is something I want to try but all this thickness I guess is for a purpose to isolate heat from the battery.
Note 4
not meaning any disrespect for the thread but why wouldn't you just pick up a wireless charging element by itself so you didn't have to worry about breaking it disassembling it?
http://mugen.co/mugenizer-samsung-galaxy-note-4-wireless-charging-receiver-qi-standard.html
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_s...te 4 qi receiver&sprefix=note+4+qi+re,aps,246
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not meaning any disrespect for the thread but why wouldn't you just pick up a wireless charging element by itself so you didn't have to worry about breaking it disassembling it?
http://mugen.co/mugenizer-samsung-galaxy-note-4-wireless-charging-receiver-qi-standard.html
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_s...te 4 qi receiver&sprefix=note+4+qi+re,aps,246
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Thanks for the informative links I appreciate your feedback.
This is addressed in the OP. Some of us have had bad luck with the third party receivers, my phone got scary hot when I used one. This is thread is for those people.
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The third party receivers would overheat my phone.
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willstay said:
I got my original charging back today. This mod is something I want to try but all this thickness I guess is for a purpose to isolate heat from the battery.
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That could be. Fortunately it is running really cool with this setup. I promise to check in later if I have any issues that develop.
cnlson said:
not meaning any disrespect for the thread but why wouldn't you just pick up a wireless charging element by itself so you didn't have to worry about breaking it disassembling it?
http://mugen.co/mugenizer-samsung-galaxy-note-4-wireless-charging-receiver-qi-standard.html
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_s...te 4 qi receiver&sprefix=note+4+qi+re,aps,246
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Also - the majority of the receivers will block NFC for the Note 4 - since Samsung has placed the antenna for NFC onto the battery itself. The official Samsung cover includes a separate NFC antenna.
Another reason for going for the official cover is that it is generally very forgiving in terms of placement - due to the size of the coil. Some of the smaller aftermarket ones require that you place the phone off center or has to be placed just right for charging.
I too have also noticed concerning levels of heat generated with the - admittedly, cheap budget receiver that I purchased online. The second one that you linked from Amazon looks promising though.
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Also - the majority of the receivers will block NFC for the Note 4 - since Samsung has placed the antenna for NFC onto the battery itself.
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I bought the cheapest one for the Galaxy s3 and my wife has used it for charging her S3 for the past year+ and she uses NFC at work all the time (the coke machine uses softcard and they were giving away 50 free $1 purchases a month from feb til december last year) and even though the Qi receiver sits right on top of the battery there was no problem whatsoever with either the charging or the NFC.
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This is addressed in the OP. Some of us have had bad luck with the third party receivers, my phone got scary hot when I used one. This is thread is for those people.
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My apologies, I missed that line. I know with the one I got for my wife's S3, it gets warmer when it is not placed on the charging pad correctly since it doesn't get enough of a charge to keep up with the outgo.
out of curiosity, does the phone charge very quickly on the Qi charger? could I ask you to charge for an hour on the Qi and an hour plugged in to show the speed? (gsam battery monitor or the graph from the system battery monitor)
I'm curious how fast it actually charges, I assume it doesn't do the quick charge like plugging into the stock charger.
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I'm curious how fast it actually charges, I assume it doesn't do the quick charge like plugging into the stock charger.
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It seems to charge pretty quickly. I think charges about as fast as being plugged into a "normal" adapter but certainly not the blazing speed of the quick charger. I don't think I am going to be able to post any battery graphs.
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It seems to charge pretty quickly. I think charges about as fast as being plugged into a "normal" adapter but certainly not the blazing speed of the quick charger. I don't think I am going to be able to post any battery graphs.
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thanks for the reply! I'll be looking into the cover since I have the 50% off coupon.
There don't seem to be any OEM Qi backs left., which is what I wanted. I got an aftermarket one, which is as thin as the stock non-wireless back, but that 1) doesn't fit all that well; there's always a gap at one corner or other, depending on which end I start with when putting it on, and 2) is at least moderately durable.
The one I have is starting to split, 3 months in. It charges fine (800mA at 5VDC, which is better than my Note 3 with OEM charging back)
So... if you are using a wireless charging back, which one are you using, and how do you like it?
BTW, I've been using a number of these wireless charging docks ($10 on amazon) and they're great if you want a spot you can just plonk your phone down and have it charging.
Hello, I'm using this on my phone and it fits and works perfectly.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DB899XQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Here is the back I purchased.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DB89ACG/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I use it with this charger. I read a lot of reviews that the wireless charging is very slow and someone even said it was more like a toy... For me, the wireless charger easily charges my phone as fast as a 1 amp charger. You do have to have a minimum of a 1 amp wall adapter.
https://www.amazon.com/Wireless-Cha...90870&sr=1-11&keywords=wireless++fast+charger
EDIT: I forgot to mention, I use a rubberized case with my phone, so it is rather thick and have no issues using the charger with it.
I think the charger and back that bishop mentioned are fine. I used similar, but I actually stripped the charging circuit out of the back, removed the black plastic cover and put it into a standard (genuine) Samsung back, which I know fits perfectly. In fact, I bought 2 of these backs and stripped out the charging circuit in both. I put one in a standard back and another in a Samsung S-View cover because the Charging S-View cover from Samsung is no longer available. Now I have the choice of either S-View charging or standard back. charging for when I use the VR headset. BTW, looking at the circuit for the backs I used, it looks like NFC is in there as well.
I bought two different Qi receivers (and used the original back), and I regret it. The first one died after a month or two, and the second one heated up the phone while charging and ruined the battery.
So I broke down and bought Samsung's wireless charging back, and it has been working perfectly.
where i can find original oem samsung back QI ?
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Hello, I'm using this on my phone and it fits and works perfectly.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DB899XQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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I also use this back, (sold under the h-ber brand name on amazon) and it works fine. Of course the back does fit a little tight, and sometimes, you have to put it on the bottom (near USB port) first, or the clips don't clip.
I have phone in a incipio case which is two layer TPU and polycarbonate and pretty thick, but it charges fine.
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Inci...rd_wg=FFUej&psc=1&refRID=S732EGM8V4C7ZNFQBR6C
I have used a samsung fast charging qi dock, and a pleson fast charging dock, which both work fine, but will only charge at normal qi speeds due to lack of qi fast charge support on the note 4.
I get the original one for $60 in my country
d4rkkn16ht said:
I get the original one for $60 in my country
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BO in my country ...
i'm not able to find it on internet to. It's just fake or aftermarket
dave457 said:
I think the charger and back that bishop mentioned are fine. I used similar, but I actually stripped the charging circuit out of the back, removed the black plastic cover and put it into a standard (genuine) Samsung back, which I know fits perfectly. In fact, I bought 2 of these backs and stripped out the charging circuit in both. I put one in a standard back and another in a Samsung S-View cover because the Charging S-View cover from Samsung is no longer available. Now I have the choice of either S-View charging or standard back. charging for when I use the VR headset. BTW, looking at the circuit for the backs I used, it looks like NFC is in there as well.
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What are you doing to hold those stripped pieces in place? Is it just packed so tight that you don't need anything or did you attach it somehow?
bagery77 said:
What are you doing to hold those stripped pieces in place? Is it just packed so tight that you don't need anything or did you attach it somehow?
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I just put the circuit panel onto the phone in the right position and then glue on the cover and then fitted the cover without moving the circuit panel. Press down well and the charging receiver is now glued to the case and in the correct position.
dave457 said:
I just put the circuit panel onto the phone in the right position and then glue on the cover and then fitted the cover without moving the circuit panel. Press down well and the charging receiver is now glued to the case and in the correct position.
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Thx a bunch for your prompt response. Sorry, what kinda glue is this? I know it gets hot back there and I've never been this best at choosing proper adhesive materials. I'm specifically using this setup for a contraption I found for the gear. I purchased a built in back but don't trust it's quality. Here is the gear contraption. It will be my 4th fan setup but this time, wifi charging is a possibility:
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Gear-...885580?varId=422849940618&txnId=1757397302002
bagery77 said:
Thx a bunch for your prompt response. Sorry, what kinda glue is this? I know it gets hot back there and I've never been this best at choosing proper adhesive materials. I'm specifically using this setup for a contraption I found for the gear. I purchased a built in back but don't trust it's quality. Here is the gear contraption. It will be my 4th fan setup but this time, wifi charging is a possibility:
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Gear-...885580?varId=422849940618&txnId=1757397302002
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I just used all purpose glue.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bostik-Al...hash=item257277c46d:m:mFfuep7JS04lusjdXPKR7fA
Samsung wireless charging cover on Amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Wireless-Charging-Cover-Galaxy/dp/B00OP5SAAI
bagery77 said:
Thx a bunch for your prompt response. Sorry, what kinda glue is this? I know it gets hot back there and I've never been this best at choosing proper adhesive materials. I'm specifically using this setup for a contraption I found for the gear. I purchased a built in back but don't trust it's quality. Here is the gear contraption. It will be my 4th fan setup but this time, wifi charging is a possibility:
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Gear-...885580?varId=422849940618&txnId=1757397302002
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I used double sided tape when I did mine - not quite as permanent as glue, just in case it moved before the glue set.