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I know there are countless threads related to G2x Problems but none of the threads are focusing on isolating the reasons of Freezing Issue. I have recently upgraded my phone from Galaxy S Vibrant to G2x and i have to say i love the hardware and performance. Only Issue for me is random freezing.
After using the phone for 2 weeks and trying 3 roms
1. Stock
2. EB 1.04
3. Dark Sinister 1.1
I have come to a conclusion that kernel and rom is not the solution. At least not for me.
So i will try to solve the problem using hardware testing.
From my past 2 weeks experience.
1. Phone Freezes at night during charging
2. Phone Freezes when ever i turn off/on wifi and bluetooth and gps and Data (4g/3g) (Still have to figure out which of them is the cause. Cause i usually turn all off when i need to save battery).
Test Day 1
For Reason 1
I am using SetCpu and have changed Min from 216 to 312Mhz. I am trying this because i think very low cpu usage in standby for a very long period causes the phone to freeze. Its a Hunch i am not sure.
For Reason 2
I will keep wifi, Bluetooth and GPS off.
I will keep 4g/3g Data On all the time.
To My Surprise its been 16 hours no freeze. It includes charging at night. Lets see how long i can go without a freeze. Upon freezing i will make some changes.
Update 31/5/2011 (Test Day 2)
Ok its been more than 40 hours and not a single crash...
I removed the following possibilities as well....
It wont crash upon excessive usage.
Also Normal Heat up does not cause the crash.
As i have been playing Samurai II Vengeance all day long... Until I ended it. Several times charging along playing. I even played it on TV using HDMI. Not a single crash. I used to have around 3 crashes a day on stock rom when i unboxed my new G2x.
I also started using GPS from today. So lets see how it goes. I will update it every 24 hour.
Update 3/6/2011 (Test Day 5)
Ok i am considering Random Freezing On standby as solved because i havent had a single freeze at night after setting CPU Clock at 312 MHz using SetCPU. There are also other comments that back up my solution. I am considering this the solution of one problem.
2nd Issue of freezing while using cell phone apps is because of certain applications that are either buggy or not compatible with tegra Platform. For that i will start another thread with individual application testing for all apps that can cause the system to freeze or crash.
Please Discuss apps System Bloat-ware/User Apps that cause your G2x to Crash or Freeze in the following thread i created:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=14399089
Thanks for all the feedback.
Luckily I dont get that issue, buy I think this is a good test :u
Good point. I have not had these issues but i do have trinity kernel and minimum speed is 300
G2x with CM7 and trinity kernel
All you have to do is be careful what apps you install. I've had the phone for over a month and the one time it rebooted or froze was when I used an app the phone didn't agree with.
I am almost certain that people are experiencing reboots and freezing because of the apps they have on their phone. Hopefully the update will solve the problem because it shouldn't be that way.
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In my opinion, the shut down has to do with temperature of the phone. As long as I keep the phone cool by not charging and multitask with other things, then my phone is fine.
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In my opinion, the shut down has to do with temperature of the phone. As long as I keep the phone cool by not charging and multitask with other things, then my phone is fine.
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I used to think the same thing but the problem is my phone gets hot and works fine. I am almost positive it has something to do with an issue in the kernel that's being exposed by certain apps. My Xoom on release had reboots and SOD and it went away with app updates and removals. It also has Tegra 2
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mobilehavoc said:
I used to think the same thing but the problem is my phone gets hot and works fine. I am almost positive it has something to do with an issue in the kernel that's being exposed by certain apps. My Xoom on release had reboots and SOD and it went away with app updates and removals. It also has Tegra 2
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Do you or @kangxi remember what Apps gave you issues?
it has to be a driver issue, its virtually the only explanation for why devs have not hammered it out yet or even CM7 team for that matter... it has problems on pure AOSP which leaves drivers or overheating (unlikely)... LG has to come up with the fix because they know their drivers and hardware better than everyone else...
Well the obvious problem I see is that they are all based on the stock rom. Try using one build from AOSP or a CM variety.
I didn't stay stock long but I did have reboot using the leaked Gingerbread (which is what EB is built from). I don't follow it but one is based off the stock 2.2.2 rom and the other is based off the leaked 2.3.3 rom.
I had nothing but problems with the stock roms. Thus your problem I think. Move over to Bionic, CM7, Gigglebread, or something.
I tested my phone and I didn't have a reset in like 5 days (which then my battery died overnight because I forgot to plug it in). I usually crackflash the CM nightlies and haven't had any problems with reboots or any issues requiring a reboot (aside from the flashlight killing audio, but just don't use it).
There are definitely two problems - software and the battery. I used to way more problems until I exchanged the battery for a new one and that solved most of my issues. The issues that remain are definitely software based.
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Good point. I have not had these issues but i do have trinity kernel and minimum speed is 300
G2x with CM7 and trinity kernel
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Thanks for this information/ Changing the minimum speed didnt affect the battery life but it has survived two nights without crashing. So i am planning to keep it at 312Mhz min.
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All you have to do is be careful what apps you install. I've had the phone for over a month and the one time it rebooted or froze was when I used an app the phone didn't agree with.
I am almost certain that people are experiencing reboots and freezing because of the apps they have on their phone. Hopefully the update will solve the problem because it shouldn't be that way.
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I Completely Agree with you. Some Applications do cause system crashes. But I have removed all the t-mobile bloatware and i only have few games and GPS apps. All games are from tegra zone. So I am sure they are supported.
For GPS App i am using Copilot and it didnt crash on me once.
I just installed setcpu and set minimum to 312. I'm keeping everything else the same to see if this change has any difference. Will report back.
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Looks like you are gaining progress. Sounds like keeping the processor revved up a little more does the trick.
It would be a simple fix for people to try that have reboot issues. I can't get mine to reboot, so unfortunately I cannot help you. My contribution was to resist from flashing for as long as possible to test how long I could get my "uptime" to. I got up to 127 hours when I passed out without charging it.
I'm running 20 hours now because I forgot to charge it again (seems to be my only problem, lol).
Looks like you may have fixed your rebooting issues. It sounds feasible that the clock speed could be causing it. I never had a reboot so I can't help you out but I can tell you that I have a profile under SETCPU that clocks it at 216 min and 216 max when the display is off and I don't have a problem. I wonder why the low clock speeds would only effect certain devices? Maybe it's certain apps that stay running in the background (since there poorly written) that require higher clock speeds than what the G2X gives at idle?
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Looks like you may have fixed your rebooting issues. It sounds feasible that the clock speed could be causing it. I never had a reboot so I can't help you out but I can tell you that I have a profile under SETCPU that clocks it at 216 min and 216 max when the display is off and I don't have a problem. I wonder why the low clock speeds would only effect certain devices? Maybe it's certain apps that stay running in the background (since there poorly written) that require higher clock speeds than what the G2X gives at idle?
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I've definitely noticed that the G2X wakes up faster and smoother (fade in from screen off) when min is set to 312mhz that's for sure. if this is all it will take to stop the reboots, I'll be super happy because otherwise this phone is just amazing.
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I've definitely noticed that the G2X wakes up faster and smoother (fade in from screen off) when min is set to 312mhz that's for sure. if this is all it will take to stop the reboots, I'll be super happy because otherwise this phone is just amazing.
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Have you noticed any changes in battery usage? I haven't really played around with SETCPU much but can the clock speed be set lower and if it can, have you tried slightly lower settings than 312mhz?
y are u guys using setcpu? and its def cuz the min is too low faux has his at 400 and no problems morfic also has his a little higher then what is it i think 216?? thats too low thats y setcpu isnt supported yet.....pimp my cpu
Someone asked me a question earlier. Only app I had issues with was fring. Soon as I opened it and started playing around with it, phone rebooted.
I uninstalled and it never happened again.
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mobilehavoc said:
No clue what you're trying to say but setCPU works fine. At startup for first time I selected Tegra2 and it works great. I have max set to 1000 and min to 312mhz (default was min to 216mhz). I'm running stock ROM but with root. that's all.
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well thats y it works for u, u cant overclock over a thousand mhz so in ur situation ur ok i guess it only applies for people running a custom kernel then setcpu doesnt work, then u would need pimp my cpu
Hey guys,
The topic of this thread has change slightly since I started it. Please disregard the first few posts after this one.
The problem is that when I install a new ROM, it works perfectly for an hour or perhaps even the day, and then I start getting random shutdowns. These seem to start out of the blue and I cant work it out.
When installing a new ROM, I always check the MD5 and perform a superwipe before starting to use the ROM. Ill put back a few apps using titanium backup pro.
I don't use any hacked apps or task killers.
I have searched but cant find anything useful.
Currently using Insertcoin Sense 4 RC5. Firmware 3.32.
I have tried three different kernals (Bricked, Sebastian and RCMix), all with the same problem.
Update: tjamaican has kindly sent me a fix he found of the forums, its for a battery fix that worked for me on insertcoin's ICS Sense 4 RC4.1 ROM. However I have just moved to RC5 and the problem is back even with the fix.
http://www.mediafire.com/?2a8837bcatym1ju
I am going to try and set a lower CPU level, already down to 1.2 Ghz with max screen off at ~500Mhz. Seems stable for now, been running 24hrs - no restarts.
This is interesting because I had a GB Rom running at 1.5Ghz with no problems, maybe its something to do with ICS.
Any ideas?
[SOLVED]
Sent the phone off to htc and they have replaced the motherboard. Its all fine and dandy now!
They dont know why it happened or how to avoid it in the future...useful, but if you're still in warranty then send it off, it took exactly a week to get back to me (Monday to Monday). Good luck!
Max
Well no need for factory reset. Superwipe? Yes.
What roms cause this?
What firmware is ur senny on? Ex: 1.17? 3.24?
Phone have physical damage?
Has it been wet?
Sent From Space Using My ICS Flavored Sensation
Thanks for your reply.
No, the phone is basically new, but as I said this has happened before.
Running this ROM on 3.24:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1468683
But this does happen on other ROMS too, they work perfectly for a while and then slowly begin to develop problems. At this stage I usually install the latest version of the ROM but I'm actually happy with the ROM at the moment and dont want to have to keep changing it!
I've been running Darkforest ROM since early stages and have had no problems so far. Maybe try that one. It's on v 5.1.5 now and it's very fast and very stable, moreso than many other ROMs i've tried.
Could be a defective device possibly? Are u using the kernel that comes with the rom?
Sent From Space Using My ICS Flavored Sensation
I would download 1-click cleaner and clean the cache every week. Also you might want to boot into recovery and wipe cache and dalvik cache every two weeks.
Sent from my HTC Sensation 4G using XDA App
I dont think there is anything wrong with the device, I'll try wiping the cache's and see if that makes a difference. Thank you very much for all your answers so far.
Max
Could possibly be an app try removing all your apps and install 1 by 1 give it a couple of weeks see if it happens again, I got a problem from juice defender pro (payed for) worked alright for few days then my launcher started force closing all the time took me ages to figure it out but got there by removing all my apps and installing them 1 by 1 long and time staking but worth a try
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Okay well ive tried clearing the cache and davlik cache with no luck, less restarts but they are still there. I am resistant to start removing apps as I use them on a daily basis. Before I try this, does anyone have any other ideas?
Thanks,
Max
I have the same problem :/ it happens in both GB and ICS but It never happened to me till about 2 or 3 months ago
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This is still happening, but now its starts to happen more quickly, the new Sense 4 insert coin ROM works fine for the first DAY then I get trouble
darksupernova said:
This is still happening, but now its starts to happen more quickly, the new Sense 4 insert coin ROM works fine for the first DAY then I get trouble
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Please elaborate more of the problem/concern, so we could atleast help you somehow.
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ardom said:
Please elaborate more of the problem/concern, so we could atleast help you somehow.
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What other information would you like?
I think it may be a kernel issue, I'm going to try a few...
Tried three different kernals now, all with the same problem which would indicate its not a kernal problem? Something else perhaps? (Tried bricked, sebastian and RCMix)
its not a problem, its with network connection
I've had this problem since ages and couldn't fix it yet. First thing, download LTE switch and change the value from wcdma preferred to gsm auto. see if it avoids the restarts. Another thing you can try is, change the sim card (I havent tried it yet). Or, if possible, change the back cover. But I'm pretty pretty sure its the problem with the network.
Please reply.
Danyal93 said:
I've had this problem since ages and couldn't fix it yet. First thing, download LTE switch and change the value from wcdma preferred to gsm auto. see if it avoids the restarts. Another thing you can try is, change the sim card (I havent tried it yet). Or, if possible, change the back cover. But I'm pretty pretty sure its the problem with the network.
Please reply.
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Pretty sure its a power/bat problem for me.
Update: tjamaican has kindly sent me a fix he found of the forums, its for a battery fix that worked for me on insertcoin's ICS Sense 4 RC4.1 ROM. However I have just moved to RC5 and the problem is back even with the fix.
http://www.mediafire.com/?2a8837bcatym1ju
I am going to try and set a lower CPU level, already down to 1.2 Ghz
Any ideas?
Well I have been at the 1.2GHz level for almost 24 hours now without too much trouble. Im not sure if it was lowering the CPU clock for screen on, or raising the CPU clock for screen off. Either way I can notice the device is slightly slower. I dont see why ICS doesnt like overclocking on this phone, GB was fine with it?!
Max
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Just had a random shutdown, could have been anywhere in the last 20 mins. I really don't know what else to try!
Having EXACT ones you are having. Buy another battery if that doesn't work its a hardware problem. I still need to buy my battery but will post and let you know if it worked.
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Well I have been at the 1.2GHz level for almost 24 hours now without too much trouble. Im not sure if it was lowering the CPU clock for screen on, or raising the CPU clock for screen off. Either way I can notice the device is slightly slower. I dont see why ICS doesnt like overclocking on this phone, GB was fine with it?!
Max
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Just had a random shutdown, could have been anywhere in the last 20 mins. I really don't know what else to try!
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I'm also starting to think its caused by not letting the battery fully die and recharging it a lot but that's just my guess?
I switched back to gingerbread yesterday and so far I've had no problems which would indicate its not a hardware issue...? Usually by now I've had a few shut downs..
So I went as far as unrooting and switching batteries with my bro and the problem continues idk what to do
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So I went as far as unrooting and switching batteries with my bro and the problem continues idk what to do
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Yeah the problems started again for me on gingerbread. I've read its a motherboard problem I think I'm gonna have to send it off to HTC... Great... 3 weeks no phone...
I'm just curious because I get a lot of mixed answers, some users claimed they never had a problem and their sidekick 4G runs smoothly while others say their phone freezes and reboots way too often. Some have also said installing custom rom has fixed their phone.
I have my sidekick since last may it does not freeze nor reboot constantly the most that ever really happen was that the screen got mosit so it stop working. I have had no more then 10 battery pulls were the phone froze. Generally I pull the battery when I need to turn it off quick. (Used gingerclone,lighting rev2,glorious overdose,
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this question may perhaps be a bit tricky. some users, like myself, may have installed a custom rom, but that alone may not have fixed the lag. i installed b2tb, but still had a lag, and quadnrant score was the same before and after the flash. before b2tb, i was on stock firmware, and my quadrant score was in the 9s. after flashing, still in the 9s. screen lag was the same. a combination of voodoo lagfix and v6 supercharger have improved my quadrant scores to anywhere in the 11s or 12s. extremely little to no screen lag and no other noticeable performance lag at all. but simply flashing a custom rom did not fix my lag.
Try GenericGinger 2.0, I use it. I've never had my phone freeze, EVER. The speed is good, battery life great. Quadrant Standard score 1700+ google search it. I'm sure it won't be a waste of time
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I have been using this phone for a month, and it seems everything runs smoothly. just the battery life, like other smart phones, is disappointing.
Way too often for me, I'm not gonna lie and say it never did, evn though I love this phone to death. Too bad the only beastly phone out there with a keyboard close to the sk's is on verizon.
Then again, I'm not sure what I do that makes it freeze a lot.
Sent from my Sidekick 4G running PDT's Glorious Overdose.
Have had my phone reboot due to running completely out of memory some cases an others just wtf why you reboot momments. Worst issue i had was dealing with a possible issue in the built in kernal drivers for the bluetooth talking with my kia souls bluetooth stereo cause it seamed now an then at work (pizza delivery) the phone wouldn't disconnect correctly an would cause other issues, like...... overheating x.X an it wasn't the battery cause the face of the phone was hotter then the back where the battery was an by hot i mean like almost hot enough to cause a burn x.x! Love the sidekick an if the devs can make a rom that patches every single issue the factory firmware has in it I'll very likely go back to it, but at this time I'm happy with my edge speed on my captivate (daily driver) an X10 mini pro (amazing backup phone that never fails )
Completly forgot sbout this one weird issus. One day, I magically lost root, had bto reflash to get it back, I have no idea how it could've happened because I wasn't messing aroun with anything.
Ever happe3ned to any of you guys?
Sent from my Sidekick 4G running PDT's Glorious Overdose.
Uno if ur tired of rebooting getg a g2
Sent from my Htc Doubleshot running MIUI
I had some major issues yesterday with glorious overdose rom, I switched to gingerclone v2 and all is well now. Stock this phone is a turd....
I had to disable the trackpad today because in sunlight it would go hay wire and I wasn't able to browse online
is that what it is when i feel my screen going haywire? i'll be trying to text someone and then it keeps scrolling up the conversation and then trying to do a search throughout that convo...jeez i thought it was just a nasty bug haha i'll have to disable it then, i dont use it anyways...wish they would have brought back the trackball from the SKIII....now THAT trackball was cool.
I disabled it and now im not having issues with it. I get this annoying browser lag tho and I need to stop that. I am looking to get a different phone now. Im sure someone who is a heavy texter would love to have this phone...
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Try GenericGinger 2.0, I use it. I've never had my phone freeze, EVER. The speed is good, battery life great. Quadrant Standard score 1700+ google search it. I'm sure it won't be a waste of time
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Omg! This ROM is perfect! This is exactly what I've been looking for! I wish I could hit the thanks button a billion times!
4th Option
4th option - Factory Reset, Rooted, added App Killer and uninstalled most of the Bloatware (Like DriveSource)
works much better now, even with the Stock ROM.
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xtrem88 said:
...I have had no more then 10 battery pulls were the phone froze. Generally I pull the battery when I need to turn it off quick....
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Push PowerButton and Volume button [+ or -] at the same time for 10 seconds. This is a little faster & easier than a battery pull.
For a while I was using Ice Cream Sandwich v2.0 Domination with the ICS launcher removed and ADW launcher in its place. Everything was fine except for the Gallery. It would take forever to load picture, and occasionally, it would reboot my device if it took too long. I just switched to GenericGinger 2.0, and I've had no problems with crashes or reboots.
I'm running Gingerclone w/ Voodoo Lag Fix and V6 Supercharger Aggressive 2. Using Tegrak to OC up to 1.152 and I'm consistently pulling quadrant scores of 2200+.
On the stock ROM the phone froze and rebooted frequently. On GingerClone I haven't had it crash once yet.
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Oh and I forgot to mention some things. First in Tegrak I set the CPU low limit to 200mhz and the governor to performance. Makes a HUGE difference in quadrant score and minimal effect on battery life.
Kj2 deodexed and rooted.
Stock browser, Gallery, and recently, Defender 2 cause it to lock up.
Stock browser and Gallery lock up less than on kg2 deodexed/rooted, but still do.
Gallery only on loading, and browser on scrolling.
I had that issue allot then I make it an effort to wipe the cache in recovery once per week, fixes its wagon for me. I also a running back to basics and dealing with the touchwiz launcher. Sacrificing looks in the name of this thing working properly is the name of the game.
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I had that issue allot then I make it an effort to wipe the cache in recovery once per week, fixes its wagon for me. I also a running back to basics and dealing with the touchwiz launcher. Sacrificing looks in the name of this thing working properly is the name of the game.
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Just wipe cache, or wipe cache and dalvik cache?
Hey guys,
My HOXL is currently running ViperXL 2.20, the Beast Mode Kernel at 1.8ghz and -25mv undervolting, sweep2wake and sweep2unlock enabled, as well as aznrice's audio mods. (VooDoo Mode). I'm using the SIO scaler and the smartassv2 governor, occasionally intellidemand.
The thing dun lags. It's slow, unresponsive, choppy. It seems as though my free ram gets eaten up rather quickly, but I get general lag even when it's empty. I don't use any task killers either, I let android take care of that part.
I get wake lag, homescreen lag (Apex Launcher Pro), lag when launching apps, lag while scrolling through apps, just lag. My quadrant is great, in the upper 5000 range, but that doesn't reflect real world performance at all.
It seems as though the lag comes and goes. One minute it'll be fine and fairly responsive, and the next minute it won't. It's usually the latter though. I've tried clean flashing the rom, no success.
What could be wrong here? I played with the HOX+ at AT&T today and I loved it, but I'm reluctant to buy it because of the T3's horrendous DAC. I was even thinking of just going for a Galaxy Note II, and I hate Samsung.
Thanks in advance.
Buy a new phone when you mess yours up?..where have I read this before......?hmm..I do not get any lag whatsoever on viper. Have you even tried reflashing,changing back to stock,factory reset etc.. are you past your 30 Days...by the way new phones come out every month literally so their will always be one faster. You just seem like the person who switches phones because the phone you have you caused the problems...
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Buy a new phone when you mess yours up?..where have I read this before......?hmm..I do not get any lag whatsoever on viper. Have you even tried reflashing,changing back to stock,factory reset etc.. are you past your 30 Days...by the way new phones come out every month literally so their will always be one faster. You just seem like the person who switches phones because the phone you have you caused the problems...
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Not quite. The HOXL's measly 16gb of memory is killing me, otherwise I love the phone. I'm just in the position to sell the HOXL for double what I paid, get a new phone using someone else's line (because they don't want to upgrade...lol) and profit The only reason I'm not jumping into this decision is because I'd like to see what comes in the next few months. 64gb is awesome though. I got my HOXL on launch day, so I'm way past the 30 day window. I do realize that phones will just become faster, but I'm not too big on the lag I'm seeing here that often makes the phone unusable. It's pretty bad dude.
I've tried reflashing, factory reset numerous times, nothing. Initially, the phone will be snappy as usual, but over the course of a couple of days the lag just comes back. Then again, I was comparing ICS to the smoothness of JB on the HOX+. This lag I'm getting is just something I haven't seen happen before. What kernel are you using? Governor, etc? OC/UV?
Viper has been pretty zippy for me lately...avoid restore system apps...if you're reporting this after a couple hours of usage...wait a couple days and than report back
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Viper has been pretty zippy for me lately...avoid restore system apps...if you're reporting this after a couple hours of usage...wait a couple days and than report back
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I only restore my user apps and data, never the system stuff. This is after a week or two of usage, I started using Viper when it was on 1.2.4 a little while ago. The incremental updates did speed it up a bit, but my phone seems to be "choking" to get things done.
Trust me you'll see another jaw dripping HTC released around April I say it even sooner so if you can wait with your one xl you'll have a very good phone.... The one x+ does seem very tempting though
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Trust me you'll see another jaw dripping HTC released around April I say it even sooner so if you can wait with your one xl you'll have a very good phone.... The one x+ does seem very tempting though
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That's why I'm holding off a bit lol. I'm assuming that in the near future, Android will match up to/efficiently use the hardware being delivered, essentially becoming synergistic.
Using viper xl with the total opposite of your experience man, try to flash the elemental kernel. Im using it with noop.scheduler and intellidemand governor with UC to 1,3ghz and it has NEVER, for real,been lagged once
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I would not buy anything new right now. Wait until we get a GSM version of the Droid DNA, which makes the One X+ look outdated already.
I was considering that, I really wish att had the DNA.
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Have you ever been satisfied with the responsiveness of the phone on a stock rom or was it always choppy as you feel it is now?
When it was bone dry stock, it was quick and responsive, felt like JB even. Not so much anymore though.
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i found at&t stock, debloating it myself with some minor mods to be faster then most of the sense roms i've tried
Hmm i had a bit of lag on viper xl 1.x series then i went cm10 to dirty rom had no speed issues on the aosp side just a bit more battery drain compared to the sense roms but my multitasking is more realistic on the aosp side imo. I would say try cleanrom always loved it for closer to bare bones experience.
Me too
I've experienced the exact same issue, although mine ran fine for the first week or so, and then started taking a ****. Stock stays fast, Viper after the first week or two regardless of kernel and cpu speed starts to lag. I've tried CM10 which speed wise is fine (buggy as all hell for me though, no offence CM dev's.. you need more time/source) and doesn't seem to slow down. So far I've flashed CleanRom and IMO it's night and day compared to Viper. Maybe try that?
For those of us that have dealt with lag on JB 4.1.2 and are using Touchwiz I've created this thread to spitball, trouble shoot or even complain about it.
From what I understand it's Android 4.1.2 related. I've been reading that it's an issue with TW and 4.1.2 itself. Some have suggested that using a custom launcher will help get rid of the lag. I've seen this be true on Nova. I have been able to get no lag on TW only by not having any widgets on the home screen. This leads me to believe that part of the lag is a result of having to render the widgets and load the information there within.
Others complain of lag during gaming (Temple Run 2 is a big one). I've looked through the forums, and searched multiple threads and it appears that other S3 variants and even tablets like the Tab 2 is having issues with 4.1.2. My G Note 10.1 had it as well.
So in the hopes of figuring out what the culprit actually is or even to vent frustration at such things here we are.
If there is a thread already like this MODs please let me know and/or close it. :good:
I don't use any widgets and I get crazy lag while playing ingress. I've only ran touchwiz and its lagged on all. Sucks but not that big of a deal.
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I also get lag and/or lockups on occasions. On stock rooted 4.1.2. So is not just CleanROM. I may go back to 4.1.1. I can't seem to find enough benefit to stay on the current stuff. I've tried different kernels, etc. No dice. The only game I play is candy crush, and it's HORRIBLE. Everything moves in slow motion. LOL. It sticks how the mods handled this, I feel it is relevant. It's an issue, well known. There are MANY complaints about it.
I've had the same issues with Candy Crush. No lag on 4.1.1, and tons of lag in 4.1.2. Like you said, it almost looks like the app is in slow motion. I have yet to find a solution to this.
Man you guys are right on the money. I've reverted back to 4.1.1 because of all the lag. I'm currently on GalaxyMod Rls 13, which to me has the least amount of lag. Homescreens don't redraw, menus are smooth (for the most part anyway, you scroll back to the top of the settings menu and it tends to jump on occasions, no matter what ROM I'm using). I hope 5.0 addresses these issues. I remember how excited I was when 4.1 first dropped... Arguably the best build Android has ever made.
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Some say they don't get lag. Just a theory here, but I went the OTA route, then rooted and unlocked. Got lag, even flashing back to 4.1.1. Thing is, I still had the current OTA partitions. So, I Odined back to K3. TADA! No more lag. Makes me think that possibly those that took the OTA are getting the lag because of the partitions that are updated. Those NOT experiencing lag are ones still on K3 partitions, but have flashed up to MB1 ROMs. Maybe? Just a theory.
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Some say they don't get lag. Just a theory here, but I went the OTA route, then rooted and unlocked. Got lag, even flashing back to 4.1.1. Thing is, I still had the current OTA partitions. So, I Odined back to K3. TADA! No more lag. Makes me think that possibly those that took the OTA are getting the lag because of the partitions that are updated. Those NOT experiencing lag are ones still on K3 partitions, but have flashed up to MB1 ROMs. Maybe? Just a theory.
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Which K3 tar did you use? I'd like to try this myself on my wife's phone. Thanks.
NVM I got it.
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I have two s3 phones in the family. One of them is on cleanrom and one is on stock unrooted. Both of them suffer from lag. We do not play games on our phones. The last that we notice is when doing things like texting. The keyboard is really slow to come up. And when the auto correct list comes up, it is very slow. Scrolling also seems to bog it down. I am not sure what is going on, but it is a definite step backward from 4.1.1. I how that there is a solution that does not involve going back to 4.1.1.
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usmaak said:
I have two s3 phones in the family. One of them is on cleanrom and one is on stock unrooted. Both of them suffer from lag. We do not play games on our phones. The last that we notice is when doing things like texting. The keyboard is really slow to come up. And when the auto correct list comes up, it is very slow. Scrolling also seems to bog it down. I am not sure what is going on, but it is a definite step backward from 4.1.1. I how that there is a solution that does not involve going back to 4.1.1.
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I wonder if the GS3 suffers from graphic redraws? Maybe it's not caching the images perpetually, only drawing them when needed. I've noticed this when it loads widgets, scrolling through menus, and when you have a lot of notifications(the drop down shade hesitates when it's opening and closing). I don't think it's hardware, as there are a few HTC phones with the same adreno GPU and they don't lag. My previous phone, the EVO 4G LTE, didn't lag at all, and they share the same adreno graphics hardware. Hero's Axis Rom addresses most of these issues, as my experience with his roms have been positive. It's not completely gone, but it's better than stock. I'd recommend using his rom if you have these issues.
fix, maybe?
Hey, all. So I had gotten the i757m, same problem as here. Got a new one from Bell, and it was slow as hell too.. Here's what I did.
I disabled everything I could, all the bloatware.
100% HD Games
Asphalt 6
Google Play Books
Google Play Movies
Google Play Music
GPS Navigator(Let's be real here, it sucks anyways.. use google maps)
Let's Golf 3
Mobile TV
Sympatico.ca
Yahoo! Finance
Yahoo! News
This helps(after a 4.1.2 upgrade via kies)
Next step: Developer options
Turned off animations(Transition Animation Scale)
under apps > Do not keep activities check box. Destroys processes after the user leaves them. Not so awesome for multitasking, but hey, whatever works, right? 262 MB used 1.7GB free . Seems like a win to me.
Do you guys overclock? This is just a theory, but overclocking or undervolting overclocking or flashing too many times seems to slow down phones. Have any of you guys tried to go back to stock and then factory reset and started over? I think that might help. Also, I do see lag, however I only see minimal lag, maybe its because I rarely have anything on my phone? I am also on stock kernel and that seems to work the best for me right now, I used to run custom kernels, but some of them keep causing issues and weren't stable enough or gave me worse battery life. I will try the new leankernel as I like leankernel from the galaxy nexus and have previously tried lean before and had a good experience. Hopefully this at least partially answers the OP's question
Well there have been 3 Touchwiz kernels that worked for me and that's leankernel, kt747 and Zeus. I only overclock to 1.8 ghz or 1.6 ghz those speeds give me the least problems.
I just ran temple run 2 just fine. Here is my setup. MOAR ver.18 latest firmware mf1, KT747 kernal.
undervolt
1175 1160 1160 1150 1150 1125 1125 1100 1100 1050 1050 1050 1025 1000 1000 950 950 925 925 900 900 900 900 880
min 189
max 1512
i/o cfq
governor
ktoonservative
screen off set too 810mhz
Thats it.
I get at least 22hrs of charge with 39% left. I can't let drain down fully because i need it to be fully charged every night before bedtime. I basically charge it fully before bed and i'm left with 39 to 20% by 9pm the next day. I'm on wifi at home and 4glte at work.
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last night i had a 3% battery drain within 5hrs. I think that's pretty awesome. While i'm asleep.
I'm with Verizon running BoneStock 3.2 and no lag at all. Fastest ROM I've used so far. With stock kernel
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