[Q] Flash CWM 5 over CWM 6 - Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III

I currently have CWM 6 installed, but prefer the older version's backup method and file structure (don't like the Blob thing). Can I flash CWM 5 over 6? Thanks!

Youy could, but I dont recommend it. I dont have CWM installed so I cant tell you exactly how, but in the advanced options I am to understand there is an option to disabled the segmented backups, which would eliminate the blobs folder and each backup would then be in its own folder.

apacseven said:
Youy could, but I dont recommend it. I dont have CWM installed so I cant tell you exactly how, but in the advanced options I am to understand there is an option to disabled the segmented backups, which would eliminate the blobs folder and each backup would then be in its own folder.
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Thanks for your response. I looked at the various menu options and couldn't find that option. Can you be more specific? Thanks!

STraver said:
Thanks for your response. I looked at the various menu options and couldn't find that option. Can you be more specific? Thanks!
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The best I can do since I dont use CWM myself and dont really feel like installing it just to check (sorry) is quote the person that pointed out to me that it can be disabled. Hope this helps.
Legato Bluesummers said:
You guys realize you can stop making blob backups and go back to normal tar right? Under back up go to advanced settings or whatever its called and choose the other option. Now you won't make back ups in blobs,but now you do them the old way. One folder for the whole back up, about 1-2 GB in size. Blobs are just nice as the backup takes under 5 min. Doing it the old way takes a bit longer.
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FWIW I use and prefer TWRP (team win recovery project). I switched to it because I was frustrated with the very problem you are having, and gave TWRP a shot and never looked back. I make backups quite frequently and I needed the option of deleting individual backups at will. You can install it with ez recovery. Give it a shot sometime.

apacseven said:
The best I can do since I dont use CWM myself and dont really feel like installing it just to check (sorry) is quote the person that pointed out to me that it can be disabled. Hope this helps.
FWIW I use and prefer TWRP (team win recovery project). I switched to it because I was frustrated with the very problem you are having, and gave TWRP a shot and never looked back. I make backups quite frequently and I needed the option of deleting individual backups at will. You can install it with ez recovery. Give it a shot sometime.
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Okay thanks. I can't find the option they're talking about. Thanks for your help.

Iirc if you chose backup to external sd card wont it put each backup in its own dated dir inside the clockworkmod dir?
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x714x said:
Iirc if you chose backup to external sd card wont it put each backup in its own dated dir inside the clockworkmod dir?
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Thats what it was doing when I stopped using it, but each folder was only 20mb. The rest of the data was going into the blobs folder.

Related

[Recovery] Rogue XM Touch Recovery v1.5.0-R1 (CWM-based v5.0.2.8) [2012-05-25]

Rogue XM Touch Recovery v1.5.0-R1
(CWM-based Recovery v5.0.2.8)
For the Asus Transformer TF101​
First off, thank you to...
Team Rogue
Koush
CyanogenMod Team
j-r0dd
Solarnz
Roach2010​
All I did slap together all their hard work to make it work on the TF101.​
Sources
Rogue Recovery
The source and more info for Rouge Recovery is available in the Xoom release thread from Team Rogue. I have not made any modifications to it to work with the TF101. You can find that thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1235170
The discussion of the touch release in that thread begins here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1235170&page=13#123​
Recovery Kernel
I used the kernel from Roach2010's ClockworkMod Recovery 3.2.0.1 release here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1213723​
Device Tree
Mostly based on AOKP's TF101 device tree, just picked out the parts needed to compile the recovery. Particularly BoardConfig.mk:
https://github.com/rburrow87/android_device_asus_tf101_recoveryonly​
Updates
[2012-05-25] 1.5.0-R1 (5028-based)
Updated to Rogue XM Recovery v1.5.0 which is touch-enabled with the same features as before. See the Xoom release thread for more information on Rogue Recovery:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1235170
Can also finally use the boot to recovery option available in some ROMs thanks to the recovery boot loop fix from Roach2010 from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1213723
Workaround for small menu targets
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26142147&postcount=151
If I can figure out a way to just make the menu items taller, I'll make an update. Otherwise I'm waiting for Rogue to implement it first.​
[2012-01-14] 1.3.0-R1 (5027-based)
Original release, non-touch​
Info
Mounting as USB storage does not work. (Accessing the tablet or SD card from your computer when plugged in via USB)​
Installation
I tested this the best I could, but use at your own risk. I am not liable for data loss, spontaneous combustion, temporal anomalies, or anything in between.
Just flash the attached zip from CWM.
There's also an nvflash version that has the recovery.img in it and will only flash the recovery if you prefer that method. Or just so you don't have to unpack the blob file if you need the recovery.img.​
Misc:
I did this because I thought it'd be nice to have a newer recovery for our TF101s, but also because I want to learn to do some sort of development even if it's just building for similar devices. I'm still new to using anything like git or using C/Java like this so don't expect miracles right away if bugs come up! I have some experience with other languages, but not in this kind of application.
Thank you, looks nice. Doing a nand backup right now with it.
there was someone in one of the ics threads, looking for this, they,ll be chuffed to bits.
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Cam you just rename this img if u wanna flash with nvflash?
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baseballfanz said:
Thank you, looks nice. Doing a nand backup right now with it.
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Awesome!
will8578 said:
there was someone in one of the ics threads, looking for this, they,ll be chuffed to bits.
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I saw that post! I've been watching that thread and trying it out when there's an update.
80slovechild said:
Cam you just rename this img if u wanna flash with nvflash?
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To do that, you have to extract the zip and then unpack the blob file... but I updated the OP with an extra nvflash version that flashes just the recovery and gives you the recovery.img.
Finally...a relatively current back up for the TF!!
THANK YOU!!
Backing up with 3201, then installing this.
Beautiful work!! Works flawlessly!
Finally! A 5.x.x.x CWM recovery
Does this allow flashing from both internal and external?
On my Galaxy Nexus, they also have a touch softkey mod that has softkeys for up, down, back, and select. Not a big deal but something cool to look into if you get bored.
LTE EX Galaxy Nexus - CM9 AOKP
Asus Transformer - Revolver
Can we get a list of features? I've never flashd CWM 5.x.x.x so just curious, and would make a good addition I think..
luna_c666 said:
Can we get a list of features? I've never flashd CWM 5.x.x.x so just curious, and would make a good addition I think..
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It's basically the same as 3207 with the ability to flash from and back up to internal memory.
And seems a bit more stable.
Worked for me. Way way way better color scheme and it booted quick! Thanks!
wackydroid said:
It's basically the same as 3207 with the ability to flash from and back up to internal memory.
And seems a bit more stable.
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its definitely not the same as v3.x.... that being said however, simply look at the android_bootable_recovery github to see the differences since v3.x
I think with the latest versions its even possible to use the mount usb with the tablets own MicroSD card where-as in the v3.x tree it wasnt (thanks to v5.x's inclusion of dual mount support, specifically done to support devices with large internal storage)
Still, i have to agree with everyone else, its REALLY nice to finally see a v5.x CWM... using it on my HD2, Evo Shift, and HeroC, it really was a surprising difference from when I was sticking with v3.x
Just awesome!!! Thanks so much!
this needs to be moved to the dev section, but great job!
Sent from my Transformer TF101 using xda premium
Thanks! Installed successfully on two separate rooted B60 TF101's(ARHD 3.2, and Krakd 1.4.2)without any issues. Works great nice job!
New recovery works great!
Just flashed this without any issue. Nice look and feel. Are there more options available under the 'wipe' option, such as ability to wipe only cache or Dalvik cache like the 3.2.0.1 had? I haven't had a chance to look yet and didn't want to chance inadvertently wiping my device. Thanks.
[EDIT] I've now had time to look around and answer my own question. Yes, the other wipe options are there under the wipe menu item. Good to not see that sd card error all the time. So far it seems pretty flawless and better looking, too. I had to reflash my ROM last night and got to put it through it's paces.
Good job and thanks for carrying forward with recovery.
I did notice that at least on mine, I saw no 'connection' between the progress bar when doing a full advanced backup to the plugin SDCARD (normal backup as in the old days), or in other words, no sign of progress despite it working fine. I'm looking around the code to see what might have caused that.
The other interesting change not mentioned is that the backup file format/suffix is now .tar instead of .img. I tried using Titanium to restore an app from the backup with the .tar files, and it worked fine. Is .tar what the current versions of cwm are using?
Lastly: I know that to burn a kernel you have to use blobs on the tf101, so which .tar file contains the kernel blob? (I've not yet analyzed this yet and have assumed that you have to actually burn a kernel afterward to get one in place). What I was wondering is if we could get the equivalent of 'boot.img' from other v5 cwm's that are around, but I suppose ours would have to burn a blob rather than just unpack a .tar file.
EDIT: After reading through the original post about Rogue Recovery, I realized that in the last / prior release notes it mentioned this:
*Progress indication disabled by default again for speed (create /sdcard/clockworkmod/.hidenandroidprogress to enable progress)
Which took care of my initial gripe so check on off to me not reading enough ..
Thanks again --
I tested this by doing a full backup and restore. After the sucesfull backup, I then did the restore which it did restored from backup but wifi got broken and no way to turn was wifi on.
jwilliamf said:
I tested this by doing a full backup and restore. After the sucesfull backup, I then did the restore which it did restored from backup but wifi got broken and no way to turn was wifi on.
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I also did a back up and restore and my Wifi is fine.
I did not do the advance backup just the regular backup.
Someone else reported this wifi problems using Roach's 3.2.0.1 CWM also.
jwilliamf said:
I tested this by doing a full backup and restore. After the sucesfull backup, I then did the restore which it did restored from backup but wifi got broken and no way to turn was wifi on.
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Hmm, weird, I'm not sure why the recovery would break that unless it's failing to restore something or possibly failed to back something up. I did several backups and restores when I was checking to see if everything worked and never encountered that. Maybe try restoring the one giving your trouble a couple of times to see if it comes back?
hachamacha said:
Good job and thanks for carrying forward with recovery.
I did notice that at least on mine, I saw no 'connection' between the progress bar when doing a full advanced backup to the plugin SDCARD (normal backup as in the old days), or in other words, no sign of progress despite it working fine. I'm looking around the code to see what might have caused that.
The other interesting change not mentioned is that the backup file format/suffix is now .tar instead of .img. I tried using Titanium to restore an app from the backup with the .tar files, and it worked fine. Is .tar what the current versions of cwm are using?
Lastly: I know that to burn a kernel you have to use blobs on the tf101, so which .tar file contains the kernel blob? (I've not yet analyzed this yet and have assumed that you have to actually burn a kernel afterward to get one in place). What I was wondering is if we could get the equivalent of 'boot.img' from other v5 cwm's that are around, but I suppose ours would have to burn a blob rather than just unpack a .tar file.
EDIT: After reading through the original post about Rogue Recovery, I realized that in the last / prior release notes it mentioned this:
*Progress indication disabled by default again for speed (create /sdcard/clockworkmod/.hidenandroidprogress to enable progress)
Which took care of my initial gripe so check on off to me not reading enough ..
Thanks again --
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Looks like somewhere around CWM 4 is when the switch to tar was made. It has better the speed along with the ability to back up and restore the correct filesystem. Sounds like the progress thing was added somewhere around then as well.
[ Found here: https[colon]//plus.google[dot]com/103583939320326217147/posts/G4VQuCpR25y Sorry, can't make outside links yet. ]
Looking at a kernel zip, it uses dd to put the blob in /dev/block/mmcblk0p4, which is also where the recovery goes... I clearly need to learn more about what's going on here when flashing a kernel or recovery to the same thing and what the function of the blob is.
Looking in the nandroid backuip system tar though, it grabs the /system/lib/modules folder which some kernel zips add to, so the nandroid is backing that up. I'm not sure if nandroid, at least in its current state, is able to back up or restore the kernel itself because of the whole blob thing?
Hmm, perhaps I should make a feature list instead of just saying look at the Xoom release thread!

[Q] CWM recovery filenames

This is a general CWM question but I could not find any place better to post on XDA, so excuse this if incorrect location.
I have flashed all the Skyrocket ICS roms in the past few days to see which I liked best. Before I flashed a new one, I would make a CWM backup of the current one. Wanting to easily be able to identify the files, I appended the rom name to the end of the CWM filenames after deleting all the characters after the date, which appeared to be a GMT time stamp. Now, when I try to restore any of those files, I get an MD5 checksum error. I am only assuming that this is due to changing the filename and not some other problem. Anyone have any ideas on how to fix this? TIA.
phoneturf said:
This is a general CWM question but I could not find any place better to post on XDA, so excuse this if incorrect location.
I have flashed all the Skyrocket ICS roms in the past few days to see which I liked best. Before I flashed a new one, I would make a CWM backup of the current one. Wanting to easily be able to identify the files, I appended the rom name to the end of the CWM filenames after deleting all the characters after the date, which appeared to be a GMT time stamp. Now, when I try to restore any of those files, I get an MD5 checksum error. I am only assuming that this is due to changing the filename and not some other problem. Anyone have any ideas on how to fix this? TIA.
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Are you talking about the folder name? Because that shouldnt affect it. Inside the folder that is created for each backup, there are backup files which dont have any dates/times in the filename itself.
I vaguely remember reading about this, but I can't recall how it was resolved. Try updating your can to 5.5.0.4 Touch or 5.8.1.3 (?? something along those lines) and seeing if that resolves it. Outside if that I must ask the obvious, did u Google "md5 checksum error cwm"?
Are you using the same CWM version as you did when you backed up? If you didnt, then thats one reason. You have to stay on the same CWM version, many of these CWM versions floating around have different fixes in there.
One way around this is to go to Advanced Restore and restore all the IMG files from there.
Dixit
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I figured I would post this fix here in case anyone else ran into this problem. This is assuming you did not change the folder names and let Clockworkmod create them. I haven't had it happen until today, but it's not a nice message to see when you are trying to do a restore.
Code:
Checking MD5 sums...
MD5 mismatch!
Do this to fix:
To fix this problem use the code below. Substitute the final folder name for the backup you need to fix.
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adb shell
# cd /sdcard/clockworkmod/backup/2010-06-29.20.22.53
# rm nandroid.md5
# md5sum *img > nandroid.md5
When that finishes, re-run the restore and everything should be fine.
NOTE: As rpearl stated, there could be something really wrong with your nandroid, so use this tutorial as a learning experience and not a fix-all. In my case, everything was fine after restoring. However, that may not always be the case. Do this with caution.
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Use this method to potentially fix.
dixit said:
Are you using the same CWM version as you did when you backed up?
Dixit
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That is correct on most of them. I updated to CWM Touch for the last one, but it did not restore either. To check this out, I just did a backup and without changing the name did a restore and it worked fine. The thing that was odd in the backups that would not restore was that it immediately bombed out of the checksum each time as if it was checking the name itself first.
That is brilliant. I did not realize you could generate the MD5 from ADB and stick it right into the folder. Thanks!
The few times this md5 mis-match has happened to me was because (a) the backup was actually messed up (check folder size) probably due to corruption or (b) my SD card was out of space. I've always renamed my backup set similar to yours (I append the ROM name) and it never affects the restore.
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The few times this md5 mis-match has happened to me was because (a) the backup was actually messed up (check folder size) probably due to corruption or (b) my SD card was out of space. I've always renamed my backup set similar to yours (I append the ROM name) and it never affects the restore.
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Are you using touch or standard CWM? I wonder if this only happens in touch version. I will try this in the next few days.
I changed the name of one of the backups I created with CWM touch and it restored fine using touch. I suppose my earlier problem may have been trying to restore a backup created with old CWM using touch version.
well since you are on the subject cwm touch im making a nanadroid backup of my current ics rom right now as i speak. i started about an hour ago and its still on the backing up data part. when i used the older version to make backups i dont remember it taking this long. have any of you had cwm touch take well its been a little over an hour now? i do have more apps on my phone now than i did the last time i made a backup would that matter? should i just jerk the battery out and go back to the older version of cwm i was using? thanks ahead of time for any advice / help you may give i would appreciate it. im trying to backup this rom cause i want to flash a different modem cause the ics modem form the leak is crap and need a backup in case it dont work..
garydv2002 said:
well since you are on the subject cwm touch im making a nanadroid backup of my current ics rom right now as i speak. i started about an hour ago and its still on the backing up data part. when i used the older version to make backups i dont remember it taking this long. have any of you had cwm touch take well its been a little over an hour now? i do have more apps on my phone now than i did the last time i made a backup would that matter? should i just jerk the battery out and go back to the older version of cwm i was using? thanks ahead of time for any advice / help you may give i would appreciate it. im trying to backup this rom cause i want to flash a different modem cause the ics modem form the leak is crap and need a backup in case it dont work..
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If you are using sk8erwitskil version of the CWM touch (ClockworkMod TOUCH 5.5.0.4 v3.5) then most likely you didnt follow one of the directions on the front page. This is a known issue. Here it is again. You need to create that file on the location you backing upto.
For CWM to recognize the .hidenandroidprogress file you need to boot into CWM and go to mounts and storage>>mount /sdcard then go back to backup & restore and make a restore and it should work everytime (as long as you do the steps in that order and you have the .hidenandroidprogress file in /sdcard/clockworkmod & /sdcard/external_sd/clockworkmod folders)
There is a known bug in ClockworkMod 5.5.0.4 that long file names can POSSIBLY cause backups to hang. There is a solution/workaround:
•boot into recovery
•try to make a backup (no matter if it passes or fails proceed to next step)
•either through terminal emulator or through adb run the following command EXACTLY:
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touch /sdcard/clockworkmod/.hidenandroidprogress
•if you are backing up to external sdcard then run the following:
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touch /sdcard/external_sd/clockworkmod/.hidenandroidprogress
im using 5.8.1.3 hercules that i got from the dev section. is this a known issue with it to?
garydv2002 said:
im using 5.8.1.3 hercules that i got from the dev section. is this a known issue with it to?
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Not sure, I used that for awhile but then went back to the other touch and Ive had those two files still in my directories.
I would go ahead and create those two files (one for internal SD and one for external SD if you got one you are using that is) and try it again. Make sure you call that file exactly the way it is, or copy/paste the code identically if you do it through ADB.
Dixit
garydv2002 said:
im using 5.8.1.3 hercules that i got from the dev section. is this a known issue with it to?
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I use that one, takes less than 5 minutes on my class 10 sd.
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Well the crazy thing is after sitting there over an hour waiting I finally took out the battery and even though it never said complete all the files are there but I still don't trust that it made a good backup so I deleted those files tried putting in the code above and it still would not work so I flashed back to version 5.0.2.0 thats not touch and it made a perfect backup in under 2 minutes. Might be one of those it just ain't gonna work right on this specific phone thing or it could be the little green gremlins at it again lol... who knows.. I'll just wait for new version of touch to come along and try it. It won't be long till a newer greater version comes along as fast as technology is going today.. thanks for the help. I'm learning more and more each day from you guys on xda.....
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Not sure if this is the cause of the issue but for nandroid backups you can't make a folder name with spaces otherwise you will get an md5 sum error. Try renaming the folder with underscores instead of spaces

[Q] TWRP / CWR Time Is Incorrect + Wrong File Size

I have noticed that when I boot into a custom recovery, the time is off. AFAIK, there is no way to change it in CWR / TWRP manually, as it reads it from somewhere else. The time on my phone when booted normally is correct
Also, my recovery file sizes seem very small, usually less than 20MB. MTP error or something bigger going on?
Thanks.
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I have noticed that when I boot into a custom recovery, the time is off. AFAIK, there is no way to change it in CWR / TWRP manually, as it reads it from somewhere else. The time on my phone when booted normally is correct
Also, my recovery file sizes seem very small, usually less than 20MB. MTP error or something bigger going on?
Thanks.
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if your using CWR you should have a folder called "blobs" that's where 98% of the data is going to be stored for backups. Whatever you do, do NOT mess with that folder.
Looks like TWRP sizes are now correct. I updated to the latest 2.3.1 and no more problems. However, the time is still off. My backup folder names are always in the 1970's lol
impass3093 said:
Looks like TWRP sizes are now correct. I updated to the latest 2.3.1 and no more problems. However, the time is still off. My backup folder names are always in the 1970's lol
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You can rename your backups just hefore uou start the process
iSheep... iSheep... Meowww that's Apple
impass3093 said:
Looks like TWRP sizes are now correct. I updated to the latest 2.3.1 and no more problems. However, the time is still off. My backup folder names are always in the 1970's lol
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I have been using TWRP since day one and they have always been correct. 2-2.5 gigs. Other poster is correct. The rest on CWM is in blobs and it will grow exponentially also. If on CWM delete backups from CWM and not file manager or the data will be forever banned to the blob folder. Will then have to delete all backups to regain your sd card space.
Edit: Sorry Never didn't want to back up to see who posted. I was on a roll (rant).
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I have been using TWRP since day one and they have always been correct. 2-2.5 gigs. Other poster is correct. The rest on CWM is in blobs and it will grow exponentially also. If on CWM delete backups from CWM and not file manager or the data will be forever banned to the blob folder. Will then have to delete all backups to regain your sd card space.
Edit: Sorry Never didn't want to back up to see who posted. I was on a roll (rant).
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Its all good Just means we both want this guy to have the right information
impass3093 said:
Looks like TWRP sizes are now correct. I updated to the latest 2.3.1 and no more problems. However, the time is still off. My backup folder names are always in the 1970's lol
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The 1970s thing is a bug with the RTC. I've seen some people suggest it may be fixed in the JB update, but I dont know enough about it personally to say either way. For now, there is nothing you can do about it.

[Q] What is your preference on CWM vs TWRP?

I wanted to get some opinions because I saw a friend use twrp and it looked pretty nice, but cwm is good too.
Diumlol said:
I wanted to get some opinions because I saw a friend use twrp and it looked pretty nice, but cwm is good too.
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TWRP all the way. Only thing I see it doesn't have is battery stats wipe, but you can use an app or a root file manager for that. It's touch for free, has more options for back/restore, is faster, supports open scripts, has a file manager(made my crash course in init.d scripts and tweaks much easier just by letting me delete a script or copy an old backup of a file back over and reboot), has a terminal(useful for things like restoring permissions to an individual file), and is able to format sd-ext in ext4 instead of ext3(big boost for my sd-ext partition), moreover there is no limit big or small to the size of swap and sd-ext partitions).
Diumlol said:
I wanted to get some opinions because I saw a friend use twrp and it looked pretty nice, but cwm is good too.
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yes cwm is good but twrp is better
TWRP better than CWM
Try this one
Diumlol said:
I wanted to get some opinions because I saw a friend use twrp and it looked pretty nice, but cwm is good too.
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I used to have TWRP installed, but after I installed my last ROM, I noticed that my backup created a 0 folder, and another 0 folder in it with duplicate folders, so I made a little research and I found Philz touch recovery.
I haven't had that issue again, and it works fine.
You can find it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2028103
TWRP, easier to use and better UI.
my favourite is cwm :good:
I've only recently gotten into the Rooting/Modding "scene" but I've caught the addiction.
I find myself now backup up (what I find) stable instances, and installing new roms over and over.
I started with TWRP because of the guide I initially used to root my phone, but I have since switched to CWM..
I switched to CWM initially as the ROM I was installing recommended it, but since I have grown to it's simplicity.
Keep in mind when using these recoveries, that some people will find that they get errors using one or the other when installing new roms..
So in using these, I would say it can be based on personal taste, and what's been working for you.. but if you find a rom that errors during install, some developers on these forums may suggest something just as simple as switching to another version of that recovery, or switching from TWRP to CWM (and vice versa).
Are these answers technically based? I mean, is there any technical difference between them?
I only got errors on installing Int2Ext4 saying invalid zip file which also happened on another ROM with CWN and Int2Ext. So I unzipped it, pushed it back to phone and used TWRP's file manager to copy to /system/etc/init.d and its terminal to set proper permissions. When CWM errored, I had to use ADB to do what TWRP let me do right on the phone. Both ways worked but TWRP saved headaches in that instance
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They both work well, but in my experience twrp is faster and have a more user friendly interface.
i think more people use a cwm,i have system cyanogenmod i i love use a cwm with this software
Twrp- because its less painful thanks to touch.Makes it easier and fast to navigate
chiragjn said:
Twrp- because its less painful thanks to touch.Makes it easier and fast to navigate
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There is CWM with touch for a while now... :good:
I have used both and I didn't find any difference, but maybe I just did very basic stuff.
I have painfully (and maybe stupidly) found out that TWRP has an option to wipe /system and, with that, it will wipe ITSELF! :silly:
I am using cwm,its very good!

TWRP backups

So I tried my first Nandroid backup today using TWRP and a howtogeek - "How to Back Up and Restore Your Android Phone with TWRP" guide I found off a quick google search.
Basically TWRP, backup(boot,system,data), reboot to android, shut down, twrp-restore then reboot.
When I would reboot after TWRP-restore, it shows the typical bootloader corrupt error msg.
Shuts down again, shows the bootloader msg, then goes into TWRP, asks for my decrypt password, then begins to run an openrecovery script (I think?) of some sort. I then go to reboot my phone again, bang factory reset mode.
I hope I'm not alone here.:cyclops: I'd just really love to be able to backup/image my phone entirely so I can try out a few custom roms, and for general knowledge sake.
thanks!:silly:
mark7807 said:
So I tried my first Nandroid backup today using TWRP and a howtogeek - "How to Back Up and Restore Your Android Phone with TWRP" guide I found off a quick google search.
Basically TWRP, backup(boot,system,data), reboot to android, shut down, twrp-restore then reboot.
When I would reboot after TWRP-restore, it shows the typical bootloader corrupt error msg.
Shuts down again, shows the bootloader msg, then goes into TWRP, asks for my decrypt password, then begins to run an openrecovery script (I think?) of some sort. I then go to reboot my phone again, bang factory reset mode.
I hope I'm not alone here.:cyclops: I'd just really love to be able to backup/image my phone entirely so I can try out a few custom roms, and for general knowledge sake.
thanks!:silly:
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What version of TWRP have you been using? I understand, RC2 has issues with properly restoring a backup. (RC is release candidate and is not considered fully stable, however, works well enough to flash custom roms and such).
The partitions on the pixel are set up in a more complex way than previously seen on many android phones, which is why there's no perfectly stable version of TWRP yet. You could try using RC1 to see if you get better luck backing up and restoring, however, you should assume that you may run into other issues and be prepared to deal with them should they arise.
exad said:
What version of TWRP have you been using? I understand, RC2 has issues with properly restoring a backup. (RC is release candidate and is not considered fully stable, however, works well enough to flash custom roms and such).
The partitions on the pixel are set up in a more complex way than previously seen on many android phones, which is why there's no perfectly stable version of TWRP yet. You could try using RC1 to see if you get better luck backing up and restoring, however, you should assume that you may run into other issues and be prepared to deal with them should they arise.
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I'm running 3.1.0-0RC2 so maybe I'll try RC1. Normally I'd just go off and try everything but unfortunately I'm not in a situation I can simply play with my Pixel and potentially brick it leaving me without a phone for who knows how long.
I don't think there would be any harm with playing with RC1 but I'll research a little bit more into it and see what I can find out first. I heard the partitions are split for redundancy(?) for firmware upgrades and dual-booting. That's something all else on it's own as I've REALLY wanted to get my phone ultimately on a Multi-Rom setup but it seems way too complicated for me at the moment to try on my own even though I'm generally good with this stuff..
Thanks exad for the insight. Any other help is greatly appreciated.
mark7807 said:
I'm running 3.1.0-0RC2 so maybe I'll try RC1. Normally I'd just go off and try everything but unfortunately I'm not in a situation I can simply play with my Pixel and potentially brick it leaving me without a phone for who knows how long.
I don't think there would be any harm with playing with RC1 but I'll research a little bit more into it and see what I can find out first. I heard the partitions are split for redundancy(?) for firmware upgrades and dual-booting. That's something all else on it's own as I've REALLY wanted to get my phone ultimately on a Multi-Rom setup but it seems way too complicated for me at the moment to try on my own even though I'm generally good with this stuff..
Thanks exad for the insight. Any other help is greatly appreciated.
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I would say use RC1 too. I've used it and never had a problem with it other than the occasional failure to decrypt which is no big deal. Just reboot back into recovery. I would add though, instead of backing up system, backup system image. Also vendor image. If you back up system instead of system image you'll more than likely run into battery drain problems. I'm not sure what causes it but it'll cut your battery life down to only several hours. Using system image doesn't cause that problem.
If you should happen to accidentally backup system instead of system image it's not a huge deal to fix it though. If you're on stock just download the factory image that you are currently on, extract the system.img file and flash it using fastboot. If you're on a custom rom, a dirty flash of the rom will fix it.
mark7807 said:
I'm running 3.1.0-0RC2 so maybe I'll try RC1. Normally I'd just go off and try everything but unfortunately I'm not in a situation I can simply play with my Pixel and potentially brick it leaving me without a phone for who knows how long.
I don't think there would be any harm with playing with RC1 but I'll research a little bit more into it and see what I can find out first. I heard the partitions are split for redundancy(?) for firmware upgrades and dual-booting. That's something all else on it's own as I've REALLY wanted to get my phone ultimately on a Multi-Rom setup but it seems way too complicated for me at the moment to try on my own even though I'm generally good with this stuff..
Thanks exad for the insight. Any other help is greatly appreciated.
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RC1 and backup system image, vendor image, data and boot.
robocuff said:
I would say use RC1 too. I've used it and never had a problem with it other than the occasional failure to decrypt which is no big deal. Just reboot back into recovery. I would add though, instead of backing up system, backup system image. Also vendor image. If you back up system instead of system image you'll more than likely run into battery drain problems. I'm not sure what causes it but it'll cut your battery life down to only several hours. Using system image doesn't cause that problem.
If you should happen to accidentally backup system instead of system image it's not a huge deal to fix it though. If you're on stock just download the factory image that you are currently on, extract the system.img file and flash it using fastboot. If you're on a custom rom, a dirty flash of the rom will fix it.
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RC1 and backup system image, vendor image, data and boot.
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Thanks again guys,
I ran a
fastboot boot twrp.zip to boot to what I thought was like a "live cd" version of twrp
with the rc1 .img and .zip in the sdcard directory I installed the .zip
booted my phone and it forces to recovery everytime now.
did I upset something?
I mean at this point, I could factory reset the google pixel all from the very beginning of time. boot/system the whole shabang, but I think this could be a good lesson from me if I could boot back to system out of this..
Okay. I have RC1 on here and have backed up to USB. I'm extremely tired and going to bed. I'll report back on how the restore goes. THANK YOU ALL!!!
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Thanks again guys,
I ran a
fastboot boot twrp.zip to boot to what I thought was like a "live cd" version of twrp
with the rc1 .img and .zip in the sdcard directory I installed the .zip
booted my phone and it forces to recovery everytime now.
did I upset something?
I mean at this point, I could factory reset the google pixel all from the very beginning of time. boot/system the whole shabang, but I think this could be a good lesson from me if I could boot back to system out of this..
Okay. I have RC1 on here and have backed up to USB. I'm extremely tired and going to bed. I'll report back on how the restore goes. THANK YOU ALL!!!
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Okay so, I stayed up a little late and tried a restore. I got this error near the end of the restore "extractTarFork() process ended with error: 255" in which resulted in corruption of files and a failed restore. Was I supposed to unmount data? Is there any reason I can't backup all partitions?
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Okay so, I stayed up a little late and tried a restore. I got this error near the end of the restore "extractTarFork() process ended with error: 255" in which resulted in corruption of files and a failed restore. Was I supposed to unmount data? Is there any reason I can't backup all partitions?
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Not sure where to direct you at this point. I have always used RC1 and backed up system image, vendor image, data and boot and never had a problem restoring. Someone with better knowledge will come around.
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Not sure where to direct you at this point. I have always used RC1 and backed up system image, vendor image, data and boot and never had a problem restoring. Someone with better knowledge will come around.
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Yeah very strange I did exactly what you told me to do as well. Any changes to partitions I backup if my phone is rooted by chance??
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Yeah very strange I did exactly what you told me to do as well. Any changes to partitions I backup if my phone is rooted by chance??
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Not that I am aware of. Mine is rooted and backups have been smooth sailing.
I recently attempted creating a nandroid backup via TWRP on my rooted Pixel and I'm consistently getting an error: 'cannot create [path]\backup file" message from TWRP. Is there a permission issue that I've overlooked here or does anyone have any thoughts as to why my rooted Pixel would be denying TWRP authority to create the backup?
Thanks
What version of twrp ?
I only use rc1, never seen this.
Yep- RC1. I'm thinking it's in 'read only' mode or something because as soon as it attempts to create the folder/file- no-go.
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Yep- RC1. I'm thinking it's in 'read only' mode or something because as soon as it attempts to create the folder/file- no-go.
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When you boot into TWRP did it ask for your unlock PIN? If it doesn't/didn't, either keep rebooting into recovery or turn the phone off and go back into recovery until TWRP does ask for your encryption PIN. Sometimes TWRP doesn't ask, and without the PIN being entered, it can't write to the internal storage.
If you click "Install" in TWRP and see a bunch of gobbledygook it's because the internal storage is still encrypted so TWRP can't do anything with it.
You could probably use USB OTG through the USB-C connector, though, to do a backup to it, if you need to.
Tried it again and it worked flawlessly.... it seems sort of buggy in that sometimes it presents the 'pattern' security lock that I use and sometimes it doesn't. After booting up in the bootloader and fastbooting the TWRP boot image slowly and methodically, the security pattern came up and all is perfect- thanks.
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Now I'm wondering how to best move that backup folder (or a copy of it) over to Google Drive? I have root explorer, but not sure if it is capable of mounting to Google Drive.. any thoughts on best practices here would be appreciated.
Thanks
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Tried it again and it worked flawlessly.... it seems sort of buggy in that sometimes it presents the 'pattern' security lock that I use and sometimes it doesn't. After booting up in the bootloader and fastbooting the TWRP boot image slowly and methodically, the security pattern came up and all is perfect- thanks.
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Now I'm wondering how to best move that backup folder (or a copy of it) over to Google Drive? I have root explorer, but not sure if it is capable of mounting to Google Drive.. any thoughts on best practices here would be appreciated.
Thanks
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I can't confirm since I've yet to do a successful backup but... Flashify Pro version looks like an option???
also
Anyone know when TWRP 3.1.0-0 will be out for Pixel? Looks like it addresses boot slots which off first glance seems like quite a fundamental feature no?
Thanks... I'm thinking I'll just adb pull the file over to my desktop... not sure.
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Thanks... I'm thinking I'll just adb pull the file over to my desktop... not sure.
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Root Explorer does have support for Google Drive. In Root Explorer touch the plus sign in the lower right corner and in the menu that opens choose Google Drive tab.
Can get Root Explorer to connect to Google Drive, but when I select all of the backup files from my Pixel's TWRP backup folder, my only choices are to cut or copy them- so I tried both and then RE creates this little clipboard icon that you presumably click on to paste them once you've opened the proper GD folder.... so I tried that and in both cases (cut and copy) it says 'fail'.... ? Thoughts? I've given RE permission to manage folders and files in GD.
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Can get Root Explorer to connect to Google Drive, but when I select all of the backup files from my Pixel's TWRP backup folder, my only choices are to cut or copy them- so I tried both and then RE creates this little clipboard icon that you presumably click on to paste them once you've opened the proper GD folder.... so I tried that and in both cases (cut and copy) it says 'fail'.... ? Thoughts? I've given RE permission to manage folders and files in GD.
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It sounds like you've got the right idea. Cut will move the files, copy will do just that. You choose one of the two and browse to the Google Drive tab, find the folder you want to use and then use the little clipboard thing to transfer the files to that folder. If that's what you're doing, the only thing I can think of right off the top of my head would be that you don't have enough space left on Google Drive for the size of the files you're trying to transfer. Try a picture or something and see if it takes that. If so, I'd suspect lack of Drive space is the reason it fails.

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