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Hello my dear friends and Samsung users,
How are you doing? I've been happy since the day I switched from Iphone 5 to Samsung S3. But now I need a bit of your help and some advice of a pro.
Look, I got a Samsung SIII GSM loaded with the newest Omega ROM Custom and a Avast! Secure software on background. It's rooted and also ready for being used.
I'm not really happy with the custom ROM though, so I describe below what I'm looking for. Perhaps you can help me:
- I need a lot more performance and speed, I want to push to its limits. Currently it reacts not as fast as I want when I go to unlock screen and unlock it for example. I also want to run apps and important tasks much more faster and effectively. Better than an Iphone 5.
- I don't care about battery usage and drain. It's absolute unimportant, I want more performance instead.
- ROM doesn't matter either, as long as it can help me to perform very satisfying performance.
I use my device a lot, when it comes to gaming, surfing on the internet, camera and chatting with friends using What's app. So you can imagine why I want all that.
I'm not really sure what to do, there are so many ROMs and Apps that can improve performance. I'm not sure, which one is the most recommended though, so I really need your help.
I also use apps such as CPU Tuner, SD-Booster, AutoKiller Memory, CacheMate but isn't that dispensable? I mean, custom ROM do already have these functions included, don't they?
Please help me
You know partner you'll probably get a lot more help if you post this on the international forum. This is the Verizon forum so I doubt anyone here knows much scout the ROMs available for your phone
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Hello fellow Note 10.1 Owners,
I recently got a Note 10.1 as a gift and have been really enjoying it. One feature I am really missing from the Nexus 7 though is user switching (which comes with Android 4.2). I owned a Samsung Epic 4g in the past so I know that waiting for Samsung to release this update is futile.
I am considering installing CM10.1 on the tablet, but I was wondering if anyone can comment on the difference in features as compared to Touchwiz. I run CM10.1 on my Galaxy Nexus and my fiancee runs it on her Galaxy S3, but I feel that things are slightly different with the Note 10.1 since it has the s-pen and handwriting recognition.
I was just wondering if anyone has tried CM10.1 on the Note 10.1 and can share their opinion.
Can I survive without user switching? Yes.
Would it be fantastic to have? Of course.
Do I love the look of stock Android over Touchwiz? No question.
Does Samsung's crappy attempt at skeuomorphic graphics frustrate me? To no end; this is not the year 2001.
Thank you!
I came from a nexus 7 and to be honest, I've had a few Samsung things and one thing I hate is the ui, it's like it was made for kids. The stock ui is by far superior.
Anyway the one thing stopping me from switching is the lack of multi window. If you don't need that then switch, I've tried cm10 and it worked great.
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I have tried it and its ok but many things made me flash back to stock based.. No mulit-window and IR blast features.. also its not as loud as stock using my noozxide mod.. I listen to LOTs of music and I needed that extra juice on some songs because not all songs are the same volume.. but other than those features i would have stayed on cm10.. i might try it out again someday.. maybe even port those features over if i can...
I can do without multi-window but I do really like the IR functionality (despite the fact that Peel lists 40+ input modes for my Onkyo receiver and I only have 3, so it is quite the guessing game). I think I will just give it a go with CM 10.1 and see if I am really missing anything. I am assuming I can use Titanium to back up PS Touch so that I do not have to purchase it once I install CM 10.1.
CM10.1 is really a nice ROM. UI is great, browsing is much faster and there are no lags even if I open many apps at once. I say give it a try and be amazed!
Thanks for the helpful feedback. I had made a thread in general and somehow missed this one. I am on Cyanogenmod now and contemplating switching to stock-based. Is there really a noticeable lag on stock that doesn't exist in CM10.1? During what activities?
I notice the most lag when switching to recent apps.. its instant on cm10 and its about a 5-10sec delay on stock..
I'm not entirely sure what's causing it, but I really feel like CM 10.1 has much worse battery life than the Stock ROM does even though Stock has like, 500 more garbage apps installed. There's got to be something in the Samsung build that's making the variance between builds so large.
On Stock I can use my tablet at school from 10:45am to 8:40pm with maybe 2.5 - 3 hours of non-use. On its worst day, I got home and before plugging it in the battery was around 30-ish %.
Tuesday of this week I was using the latest CM Nightly and had to start adjusting system settings that I never touch, like screen brightness to as low as I could use it while still seeing the screen, silent, wifi off, gps off, etc. I was under 20% when I left that night, and that was after putting it back in my bag about halfway into my last class.
Really stinks because I much prefer CM over Stock, but if the battery life doesn't improve, I can't justify using something that's somehow actively killing my device faster.
Hello everyone. ok so i have a samsung vibrant old school samsung galaxy s 1 phone . I havnt felt the need to upgrade i was thinking about it than i put android 4.3 on that and its butter now. So i want this on my note as well.
I am concerned about a couple of things first multiwindow but i saw play store has an app that makes everything multiwindow so thats not a problem any more... i am wondering if the app will work if i put 4.3 in there and take out samsung UI.
Now my second concern is i use the feature of the note where u click with the stylus and select anything, crop it and import it to another app. VERY USEFUL feature for making notes on lecture notes. So i was wondering if this feature would go away with the 4.3 install.
and third the feature of snote mini popping up when i double tap stylus would that go away too?
Lastly what is the difference between orignal android develpment and android development.
Some please answer me. I will very much appreciate your time . THANKS
1 2 3 anything that is a samsung touchwiz feature goodbye
4 original is more for elite devs something like that
multiwindow,
spen and all associated features,
ir blaster,
and whatever other touchwiz features will no longer work if you install a 4.3 rom
why exactly do you need 4.3?
Joey22688 said:
multiwindow,
spen and all associated features,
ir blaster,
and whatever other touchwiz features will no longer work if you install a 4.3 rom
why exactly do you need 4.3?
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thats a bummer. I dont need it i want it. I like to keep my software updated its just a personal preference. But in the case of 4.3 i noticed major speed improvement on my phone so i wanted to see how bad ass my tablet would be if i had that on there. I am guessing it has that TRIM memory management built in that why its like that w.e it is i really enjoyed how smooth my phone was after. But I am not willing to give up the touchwiz features college is the reason i bought this particular tablet. thanks for the answer guys :good: Maybe ill sell this and go for the 2014 note :cyclops:
Sorry if this has been asked and answered, but why are there not any ROMs for the SM-P9000, I mean this tablet has been out for several months and there is still nothing? Not complaining, just curious...
acejavelin said:
Sorry if this has been asked and answered, but why are there not any ROMs for the SM-P9000, I mean this tablet has been out for several months and there is still nothing? Not complaining, just curious...
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It costs too much and has a very small user base.
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Hmm... Makes sense. Thanks for the answer.
acejavelin said:
Hmm... Makes sense. Thanks for the answer.
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The price is dropping-slowly. Maybe once the prices drop to a more reasonable rate, folks will buy it and more interest will grow in building Roms. I bought mine the second day it arrived on Verizon, just glad that the Verizon version finally got rooted and I was able to install my Root-Only apps and Xposed.
I agree, after root you remove/freeze bloatware, add all the apps to multi-window and pen window, use xposed modules, it's as good as a custom ROM.
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I agree, after root you remove/freeze bloatware, add all the apps to multi-window and pen window, use xposed modules, it's as good as a custom ROM.
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Yup! Can't wait until we either get Safestrap or break the Bootloader so we can have Custom Kernels....but for right now-I'm ok with it. It runs so much better since I've removed all the bloatware.
Also, there is a few really great market apps that supplement the multi window and add most other apps too.
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Yeah the only thing I wish I could do is customize the look of the notification and quick settings shade. Wanam is only partially helpful with this (increased the number of quick tiles thats about it).
I primarily use the tablet in landscape mode and it irks the crap out of me that the entire screen isn't utilized. Having the screen underneath visible on the left and right quarters of the screen is meaningless to me when they're forcing me to scroll vertically through notifications due to lack of width so I'd like to either reduce the font sizes in the shade (system wide LCD density screws up stock keyboard) or have more flexibility on the layout.
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...system wide LCD density screws up stock keyboard...
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Have you tried app settings module in xposed? You could change system DPI and then use this module to change any app DPI back to default if they don't behave.
Yeah if memory serves this fixed full sized landscape keyboard layout but there were other issues with the other modes of the keyboard. It's been a while though, are you using it that way?
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I use that module to lower DPI for some apps. Many system apps don't look good at custom resolution.
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I agree, after root you remove/freeze bloatware, add all the apps to multi-window and pen window, use xposed modules, it's as good as a custom ROM.
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Except that Touchwiz is still annoying to deal with and bogs down the system. Even with a pretty high clock dual-quad-core processor, I still experience some stutters and "slow" app launches, etc.
Custom ROMs or a stock ROM for this tablet while keeping pressure sensitivity for the S Pen in tact would be amazing. Not to mention that this tablet doesn't get horrible battery life, but it would far better running a more stock experience with something like Franco Kernel.
It's pretty disappointing that this tablet is basically zero dev support, but it's not surprising since it's such a niche tablet. Most consumers don't want a huge tablet, plus the price tag is pretty high. With a screen this large, it also makes sense to have an actual keyboard, which adds even more to the cost.
This tablet would be even more amazing with dev support, but don't hold your breath because it likely will never get any love. We'd be lucky to get a single stable custom ROM project before this becomes a piece of "outdated" kit.
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Except that Touchwiz is still annoying to deal with and bogs down the system. Even with a pretty high clock dual-quad-core processor, I still experience some stutters and "slow" app launches, etc.
Custom ROMs or a stock ROM for this tablet while keeping pressure sensitivity for the S Pen in tact would be amazing. Not to mention that this tablet doesn't get horrible battery life, but it would far better running a more stock experience with something like Franco Kernel.
It's pretty disappointing that this tablet is basically zero dev support, but it's not surprising since it's such a niche tablet. Most consumers don't want a huge tablet, plus the price tag is pretty high. With a screen this large, it also makes sense to have an actual keyboard, which adds even more to the cost.
This tablet would be even more amazing with dev support, but don't hold your breath because it likely will never get any love. We'd be lucky to get a single stable custom ROM project before this becomes a piece of "outdated" kit.
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I hope we get cyanogenmod at least. hate touchqiz.
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I hope we get cyanogenmod at least. hate touchqiz.
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I have owned the Note 8.0, the Note 10.1 2014, and now the Note Pro 12.2. I do not understand why some one spends the extra money for a device with the S Pen and then wants a rom that will make the S Pen utterly useless. Besides that, The Note 8.0 did get Cyanogenmod but the Note 10.1 2014 has not as yet gotten anything but customized Touchwiz roms.
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I agree, after root you remove/freeze bloatware, add all the apps to multi-window and pen window, use xposed modules, it's as good as a custom ROM.
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nrage23 said:
I have owned the Note 8.0, the Note 10.1 2014, and now the Note Pro 12.2. I do not understand why some one spends the extra money for a device with the S Pen and then wants a rom that will make the S Pen utterly useless. Besides that, The Note 8.0 did get Cyanogenmod but the Note 10.1 2014 has not as yet gotten anything but customized Touchwiz roms.
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I agree 100%. Whenever, people ask me for my opinion as to what tablet to get (or rather should they get what i have - either the note 8.0 or the note pro) I actually tend to steer them away from the note series. I explain to them that if they are not going to use the S-Pen extensively then they should get another tablet with better specs (one that is more optimized for gaming or watching video). As far as I'm concerned the S-Pen is the selling point of the Note series tablets - so why render it useless or even limit the capabilities of it with a Rom that would do that?
P.S. In regards to getting a tablet optimized for gaming or watching video I just picked up a Galaxy Tab S 8.4 (for my wife) from Best Buy. I wasn't really in the market for another tablet but they have a deal where you can trade in your working tablet (that's in their database) and get $50 off (or even more if the value of it is worth more) plus another $50 off toward the purchase of a Galaxy Tab S tablet. They will allow up to two tablets to trade in. Since my wife and I both had HTC Flyers lying around collecting dust we decided to trade them in. Combined with other Best Buy discounts I got a total of $171 off . Because of this it made me just purchase it (did I say it was for my wife:laugh The display is stunning.
I haven't owned a Note device prior to this one, but I doubt that devs are incapable of rummaging through Samsung's code and finding the bits that pertain to S Pen functionality. The sensors are built into the device--the rest is software. With all the crazy stuff that devs can do on Nexus devices, I'd think that a clever dev could maintain the S Pen functions while offering a more stock experience.
It's pretty sad that Samsung forces such an annoying, heavy UI on its consumers when other OEMs are moving closer to a stock experience. I wouldn't even have the desire for a custom ROM on this tablet if it were closer to stock Android. But there are just annoying bits like the headhphone volume warning every time I want to turn up the volume. Does Sammy really think its consumers are so idiotic that they can't handle their own volume controls without going deaf?
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I haven't owned a Note device prior to this one, but I doubt that devs are incapable of rummaging through Samsung's code and finding the bits that pertain to S Pen functionality. The sensors are built into the device--the rest is software. With all the crazy stuff that devs can do on Nexus devices, I'd think that a clever dev could maintain the S Pen functions while offering a more stock experience.
It's pretty sad that Samsung forces such an annoying, heavy UI on its consumers when other OEMs are moving closer to a stock experience. I wouldn't even have the desire for a custom ROM on this tablet if it were closer to stock Android. But there are just annoying bits like the headhphone volume warning every time I want to turn up the volume. Does Sammy really think its consumers are so idiotic that they can't handle their own volume controls without going deaf?
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Yea, there are a lot of stupid little annoyances with Touchwiz (not to mention the excessive bloatware). But in my experience with the Note devices it is much better to have a Touchwiz base custom Rom rather than removing it altogether. Even though the devs do a remarkable job, once you remove Touchwiz there are just too many issues to deal with in getting the same functionality out of the S-Pen that you have actually paid more for.It just doesn't seem to be integrated enough once you remove Touchwiz. To me it seems as if it becomes just a regular tablet that you can use a stylus on with apps that call for it. And if that is the case I would just buy, say a Tab Pro and a stylus. Also in regards to those little annoyances (and the bloatware) there are plenty of modules that can be used to minimize them. This tablet would be perfect if CivZ was able to make a custom rom and kernel like he has done for the Note 8.0:good:
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It costs too much and has a very small user base.
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Price shouldn't be an issue anymore. Price on refurbs is pretty low. I just picked up the Note Pro 12.2 for $429 - 13% ebay bucks = $375
Permissive kernel would be great
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Guys,
Just freeze all stuff you find to be non sense, heavy, resource intensive or you just don't like, install Xposed Framework, Nova Launcher or other of your taste and voila, you get a totally customized rom without loosing any of the native features of the Samsung original rom. You don't need to have a miscellany of custom roms to be happy. I totally agree about having a very expensive device and not using its native features. Nonsense. It's not only the hardware, but the software implementation that it's also awesome. I believe samsung was the first to implement multi window in an android device and IMHO it's better then Halo (I believe this is the name).
My first tablet was a xoom and I still have it. Old hardware, slow, but its construction quality reminds me the iPad. With OmniRom it performs just well. After it I only had Samsung Note tablets and phones. All disposable, peace of junk if you compare to the quality of the iPad, or even with the xoom, but the project is absolutely great. Hardware and software working in perfect tune. Disposable, but while it's working it's just great. And of course, if you take good care of it, it will last some years (don't drop it please). So, keep it original, that's the great thing on the Note line of tablets (and phones), customize it with the tools available around and you'll see how good these tablets can be. Having good customized and optimized TW roms is always good, but similar results can be achieved without flashing a single zip.
Root is a must!
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so i haven't had a samsung phone since 2003 until the S7. the last few phones i had were running stock android, without all the crap and i loved it. now, i know that samsung ui brings with it some benefits. what would i lose (and gain) if i flashed a stock android rom on my S7? thanks
1) not sure there already is a stock rom for S7 ...
Pros:
+ Getting stock android
Cons:
- Loss of some/most/all "samsung" features (possibly also some fingerprint support and so ... )
im not sure if you know the home screen launcher (called samsung touchwiz) can be replaced with better ones like nova launcher and such... is that what you mean by Samsung UI?
changing roms actually change the functionality of the Android system wide functions/features, its different to the home screen UI.
the rom that came with your s7 is stock samsung you could say. Samsung made it, so everything, all the hardware works with the rom... some people want more software features or less features and so flash other roms, like vanilla stock roms or asop/cm roms, even though it may mean some software features wont work and even some hardware functions.
Every rom dev will tell you what's on offer and what the issues are.
the s7 is quite fast now, so you could just root the current rom (once root is available for your model) and remove/freeze apps known not to be required to clean the rom of Samsung junk. also install xposed to add new system wide changing features and such, but the more you mod the more risk of having issues.
"Stock" android is called AOSP okay? It's a little confusing when you say it like that.
Anyhoo, AOSP is faster than TW, and you will have constant update even when S7 is not supported by samsung anymore. However, Samsung made sure that TW is best compatible with their devices so you wouldn't notice any difference at all when it comes to speed. Also when flashing AOSP, you will lose almost all features TW has.
I wouldn't recommend flashing a stock android. Reasons:
1. you'll have to void your warranty and trip the Knox counter. This is a one way street, there is no known method to "untrip" this counter, so Knox will be disabled on your phone (even some samsung services like samsung pay MIGHT be disabled)
2. the s7 hase plenty of power and enough ram, so "having more free ram" or "faster app opening speeds" isn't hardly an argument nowadays anymore.
3. Bloatware removal? Well, at least my s7 (exynos version with dtm german telekom image) came surprisingly clean. Microsoft Office, the usual google apps and the usual samsung apps. No Bild.de, hrs hotels or such crap anymore. And you can disable the apps you don't want easily via the app manager or via another android app called psp (or similar, just search the s7 subforum a bit, you'll find it).
4. optimization: as the posters stated above: the s7 rom is designed for the s7, and just the s7. so all the hardware is probably supported the best under this rom. in the early days of android one just had to cope with the 2g/3g modem, acceleration/light sensor, wifi and perhaps gps. nowadays there is tons of stuff more: fingerprint, special bluetooth low energy functionality, special camera sdks (mostly not public), magnetometer, some people also believe there is a fm radio chip in the s7... and so on and so on... this is making things difficult to implement for the developers of rom bundles as cyanogenmod or aosp.
---> if your only concern is the newest android in case of security: the s7 has android 6.0.1 now, this version has a decent capability to get SECURITY updates from google directly. Meaning the most crucial android wide security loopholes will be fixed. no more "stagefreight will never be patched for my 2,5 year old phone" anymore.
---> if you always want the newest roms for the newest pure android features: I assure you, samsung is sometimes ahead of those. the 5.x rom I am currently using on my xperia mini pro is actually pretty similar in case of functionality/usability with the 4.x rom of my s5. many of the features I missed in the pure 4.x which samsung implemented are now standard in the 5.x "clean android".
I guess you should just lay low and wait for your guarantee to be over OR reconsider once a good rom is available which has features that you urgently want.
I'm also currently waiting for a rooting method which doesn't trip knox to appear so that I can root my s7 and start using it. It's just in the original packaging right now waiting...
-acid
AcidBurns said:
I wouldn't recommend flashing a stock android. Reasons:
1. you'll have to void your warranty and trip the Knox counter. This is a one way street, there is no known method to "untrip" this counter, so Knox will be disabled on your phone (even some samsung services like samsung pay MIGHT be disabled)
2. the s7 hase plenty of power and enough ram, so "having more free ram" or "faster app opening speeds" isn't hardly an argument nowadays anymore.
3. Bloatware removal? Well, at least my s7 (exynos version with dtm german telekom image) came surprisingly clean. Microsoft Office, the usual google apps and the usual samsung apps. No Bild.de, hrs hotels or such crap anymore. And you can disable the apps you don't want easily via the app manager or via another android app called psp (or similar, just search the s7 subforum a bit, you'll find it).
4. optimization: as the posters stated above: the s7 rom is designed for the s7, and just the s7. so all the hardware is probably supported the best under this rom. in the early days of android one just had to cope with the 2g/3g modem, acceleration/light sensor, wifi and perhaps gps. nowadays there is tons of stuff more: fingerprint, special bluetooth low energy functionality, special camera sdks (mostly not public), magnetometer, some people also believe there is a fm radio chip in the s7... and so on and so on... this is making things difficult to implement for the developers of rom bundles as cyanogenmod or aosp.
---> if your only concern is the newest android in case of security: the s7 has android 6.0.1 now, this version has a decent capability to get SECURITY updates from google directly. Meaning the most crucial android wide security loopholes will be fixed. no more "stagefreight will never be patched for my 2,5 year old phone" anymore.
---> if you always want the newest roms for the newest pure android features: I assure you, samsung is sometimes ahead of those. the 5.x rom I am currently using on my xperia mini pro is actually pretty similar in case of functionality/usability with the 4.x rom of my s5. many of the features I missed in the pure 4.x which samsung implemented are now standard in the 5.x "clean android".
I guess you should just lay low and wait for your guarantee to be over OR reconsider once a good rom is available which has features that you urgently want.
I'm also currently waiting for a rooting method which doesn't trip knox to appear so that I can root my s7 and start using it. It's just in the original packaging right now waiting...
-acid
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thanks for the post. i'm not worried about the warranty. i've rooted the last 3 phones i had and never needed warranty claim. i just like running aosp as its very clean and when rooted gives me more customization options. i could care less about samsung pay or fingerprint scanner and such. so i'm ok with losing it. buying the s7 i was really looking for great hardware which it has and flashing aosp on it. the only reason i didn't go with nexus 6 is because there's no sd card.
You will not see any AOSP roms available for Exynos variants. Snapdragon variants have locked bootloader so unless Samsung unlock it (which I think may be a possibility) you will not see any roms for Snapdragon variants.
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If you want custom roms, the S7 isn't the phone for you.
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Was never a fan of flashing aosp over touchwiz unless the S7 had a gpe counter part and a port was made or something. I hade the m8 on verizon but there was also a m8 gpe as well so that was a great experience because that was just ported over and all the features were still there the boomsound, HTC camera app ect. Usually you lose on a lot of factory features that were made for that phone and what I realized when flashing aosp Roms was the drastic downgrade in camera quality, that was during the s3 and note 3 for me.
I mean I'll definitely give a aosp rom a shot no doubt about that. if we even make it that far with the s7. We still need root and unlocked BL first to even be thinking about all that. Unless you got the exynos version.
One big thing for me usually is the camera...
Somehow the stock camera is always easiest, best, flexible and most comfortable. Never really found a camera which could replace it (either not all functionality available, or just not working as smooth). But yeah, it's not as if there is (or likely will be) an AOSP rom for the S7...