So, I was watching a video. Battery was sufficiently charged, so I removed the power cord and the device immediately went black. Completely unresponsive after that and all attempts to resuscitate have failed (power button 3-seconds, power and volume-down for 12-seconds, power-button alone for 30-seconds... all of the things). No charge light, nothing. Its dead.
Here's the thing, I realized that I've got some sensitive data on there. Email. Dropbox. WAN access to my NAS, saved PDF's, incriminating pictures (just kidding). Holy crap... I can access my whole life from this thing. Now, if it was alive, I could wipe it. If I'd lost it I could (hopefully) remotely wipe it. With it dead there's nothing I can do... and if [when] I bring it back to the store for an exchange and somewhere down the line someone is able recover it in a way that I wasn't able to - ouch.
What can I do, other than password resets on everything. Am I being too paranoid? I dont know where these things end up!!
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So, I was watching a video. Battery was sufficiently charged, so I removed the power cord and the device immediately went black. Completely unresponsive after that and all attempts to resuscitate have failed (power button 3-seconds, power and volume-down for 12-seconds, power-button alone for 30-seconds... all of the things). No charge light, nothing. Its dead.
Here's the thing, I realized that I've got some sensitive data on there. Email. Dropbox. WAN access to my NAS, saved PDF's, incriminating pictures (just kidding). Holy crap... I can access my whole life from this thing. Now, if it was alive, I could wipe it. If I'd lost it I could (hopefully) remotely wipe it. With it dead there's nothing I can do... and if [when] I bring it back to the store for an exchange and somewhere down the line someone is able recover it in a way that I wasn't able to - ouch.
What can I do, other than password resets on everything. Am I being too paranoid? I dont know where these things end up!!
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Do you have password screen lock?
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Well, if you don't have password protected screen lock, then there is a risk there. Right now you don't have too much of a choice really, either not send it in or buy a new one. If it's me I would send it in, I believe Asus would have some kind of corp policy to prevent their employee from temper with users' data. To have a piece of mind, you could call Asus tech support and ask them about your situation.
Stick it in an MRI magnet, that will ensure your data would never be recoverable
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Stick it in an MRI magnet, that will ensure your data would never be recoverable
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Flash memory isn't susceptible to that. There isn't anything magnetic in flash memory.
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Flash memory isn't susceptible to that. There isn't anything magnetic in flash memory.
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A MRI magnet would ensure it never boots up again again though at the very least and while the MRI wouldn't erase the information like it would on a hard drive it would probably damage the internal storage to some extent.
I'm sending mine back to amazon for a similar death, spoke to then and they have a pretty serious security guarantee for any info on returned devices. They assured they will clear any info.
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OK, couple of thoughts. Did you try another cable to charge? Have you tried it on your PC? It sounds hardware related, just giving you some long shots to try. Also, do you have Accident insurance? And how long ago did you buy it, what is the return policy where you purchased it? Best Buy is great about returns, and the Geek squad may be able to assist you too.
I predict a debit card transaction from some Taiwanese restaurant appearing in your bank statement. j/k. Like already mentioned. Try a different cable, check for bent pins that are shorting via power connector. Try to plug into computer to have device come up as media storage. Tab the hell out of back and see if you can jar something back in place. Do you feel a vibration when you try and turn it on? If all else fails return it. Tell them its defective. Usually a store will mark it defective and just return it back to Asus, instead of trying to resell it. Or just send it directly back to Asus and have them repair it. GL
Try letting it sit plugged in for about 15 minutes. Then see if it turns on. Sounds like the battery may have come loose, or the software could have glitched and prevented the battery from charging. (second scenario is easily remedied by turning it off and on again if you can manage to get it back on again of course)
Change your google, email, dropbox, etc passwords and you should be fine.
I used to work in a repair center for another company. Although I can't speak for ASUS specifically, if we got a unit in we would plug it in and restore factory settings before even trying to turn it on. If it didn't power up, we started pulling it apart and replacing components. You can change your passwords just incase, but in that environment everyone has a "get it off the bench ASAP " mind frame so I doubt your information will be compromised.
Hope you feel a little better about it anyway.
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OK, couple of thoughts. Did you try another cable to charge? Have you tried it on your PC? It sounds hardware related, just giving you some long shots to try. Also, do you have Accident insurance? And how long ago did you buy it, what is the return policy where you purchased it? Best Buy is great about returns, and the Geek squad may be able to assist you too.
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>> No, no other cable to try. Doesn't seem likely. Its not short of battery. I was watching video, power was about 50-60%, I unplugged, and the instant the cable was removed, it went dead with no further signs of life after that. Yeah, its hardware related. Bought 3 weeks ago and will return under warranty.
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I predict a debit card transaction from some Taiwanese restaurant appearing in your bank statement. j/k. Like already mentioned. Try a different cable, check for bent pins that are shorting via power connector. Try to plug into computer to have device come up as media storage. Tab the hell out of back and see if you can jar something back in place. Do you feel a vibration when you try and turn it on? If all else fails return it. Tell them its defective. Usually a store will mark it defective and just return it back to Asus, instead of trying to resell it. Or just send it directly back to Asus and have them repair it. GL
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Checked pins everything looks good. Banged, shook, jiggled, pressed and wished really hard on the thing. Nothing. Nadda on the computer connection. No vibration when turn it on. It is the definition of a brick.
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Try letting it sit plugged in for about 15 minutes. Then see if it turns on. Sounds like the battery may have come loose, or the software could have glitched and prevented the battery from charging. (second scenario is easily remedied by turning it off and on again if you can manage to get it back on again of course)
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Let it sit overnight on charge. Nothing. Battery was 50-60% went it bit it.
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Change your google, email, dropbox, etc passwords and you should be fine.
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I used to work in a repair center for another company. Although I can't speak for ASUS specifically, if we got a unit in we would plug it in and restore factory settings before even trying to turn it on. If it didn't power up, we started pulling it apart and replacing components. You can change your passwords just incase, but in that environment everyone has a "get it off the bench ASAP " mind frame so I doubt your information will be compromised.
Hope you feel a little better about it anyway.
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Sorta kinda, thanks
... thanks everyone... back to the retailer it goes.
Well Dropbox is easy. Just change the password from computer and it can't be accessed from tablet anymore.
Yet a bit curious that if you are so paranoid why even store some private data on cloud storage which basically is managed by some third party company. I am quite sure that people at dropbox COULD see any data there any time they wanted but I am quite convinced that my home porns don't interest them enough.
I hope..
Probably also if your unit is that much dead they need at least do factory reset before getting back to anywhere. I am assuming your motherboard got dead. You wouldn't be the first one.
I'm sure you will have - but have you tried the hard reset button? (pin in the side)
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A MRI magnet would ensure it never boots up again again though at the very least and while the MRI wouldn't erase the information like it would on a hard drive it would probably damage the internal storage to some extent.
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No. Your device won't boot, but your data and internal storage will be 100% intact.
There is nothing magnetic in flash memory. In fact, it was originally created to be used in environments with high magnetic interference. Trust me, an MRI magnet will do nothing at all.
But please, continue believing that you will.
LOL, I actually thought that was another microphone hole like the other side (as they look exactly the same). But no, that didn't do anything.
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I'm sure you will have - but have you tried the hard reset button? (pin in the side)
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No. Your device won't boot, but your data and internal storage will be 100% intact.
There is nothing magnetic in flash memory. In fact, it was originally created to be used in environments with high magnetic interference. Trust me, an MRI magnet will do nothing at all.
But please, continue believing that you will.
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I'm not saying I'm right but MRI magnets are pretty damn strong and they can mess up a lot of stuff that isn't necessarily magnetic itself.
http://superuser.com/questions/338641/is-it-possible-to-wipe-ssd-with-strong-magnetic-force
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I didn't even put much thought to privacy when I returned my Transformer Prime in for an Transformer Infinity at Best Buy.
Hopefully those returned Primes were all sent back to ASUS where they were probably dismantled, destroyed, and turned into new raw material for new tablets.
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Alright, so this was my first post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943667
And the exact same thing has just happened, again. But its worse this time.
Last time... I was watching a video and unplugged the charging cable (from the TF700 end) and it went black ...and that was IT. As described in the other thread, there was no way I could revive the unit at all, and I do believe something had shorted out - the charging light (which usually is orange while charging) wouldn't light at all. Tried all the usual tricks. No go. Returned to point of purchase and received a new unit.
10 minutes ago... same bloody thing, with the exception being, I wasn't watching a video. It was probably at about 50-60% charged if I were to guess, and it was just beside me. Took the charging cable out and walked away and of course, the screen wont turn on... COME ON! Yeah, same thing. Go back and plug it in. No orange light anymore. Reset pin: nothing. Hold down power button: nothing. No access from PC. DEAD AGAIN.
Here's why its worse this time:
1) I'm passed the 30-day return period with retail vendor.
2) I unlocked it (last weekend), and you guys know the story on this one (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1965214). I basically had to click a checkbox acknowledging me flushing my warranty down the toilet. I'm from Canada, so a squaretrade warranty (which I would have done), was not an option.
Why did I unlock it? Because since upgrading to JB, the I/O issues have been ridiculous, making it quite unusable... and I wanted to give CleanRom a try, and I did, and it was just great. It was running so freaking well at this point. I literally had just got everything the way wanted it after making the exchange not too long ago and was so happy with it.
So, yeah, why would this happen to me again? We're talking a different unit, a different charging cable /power adapter, hell... a different wall socket. Same scenario though... remove cable and BAM. I'm so frustrated at this, especially since it seems I may be out a hard earned $500 if Asus says no warranty you unlocked it. My only speculation is this. The charging port in these units has been a bit "loose". By that I mean... there's a bit of a wiggle factor when he cable is connected. I recall thinking that that's not good for long term reliability. I believe when I pulled it out, it was not a completely straight-out pull (ie: a bit of one side first). Could this possibly have anything to do with it? Could there be some design flaw to allow a short in this instance? I've not heard of any similar stories though.
Seriously pissed.
EDIT: for clarity... had the 1st one for 21 days, and the second one for 17 days.
Don't suppose you remember the exact serial numbers of both units? There could be a fault in the production line.
It sounds suspiciously like a power spike issue from the electricity net. Even if you shorted out the adapter plug, it shouldn't kill the whole device. However a power surge could fry the entire unit.
Couple of years ago we had issues with the power company, they were sending unstable voltage through the net. Ever so often it would spike, frying anything connected that wasn't behind or included a power equalizer.
You can still send it back to Asus when it's unlocked, they'll just charge you for it. I don't know how it is in other parts of the world, but here in Europe the store has to offer you a mandatory 2 year warranty that means they have to take the device back when the hardware mysteriously dies. (with the exclusion of things such as water damage, drop damage and other user-induced damages.)
Yes, I would have the serial numbers... I believe they are noted on my receipts.
I don't think it's a power spike issue. The reason why is that the issue happened right after unplugging for some reason, and both times were protected by (two different) high quality surge protectors, and also I have a lot of other electronics in my place... Nothing else effected (not have it had any similar problems).
Well I guess it goes back to Asus. We don't have that mandated in store warranty here. To tell you the truth, now I'd rather just not have it now, as this has been frustrating.
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Don't suppose you remember the exact serial numbers of both units? There could be a fault in the production line.
It sounds suspiciously like a power spike issue from the electricity net. Even if you shorted out the adapter plug, it shouldn't kill the whole device. However a power surge could fry the entire unit.
Couple of years ago we had issues with the power company, they were sending unstable voltage through the net. Ever so often it would spike, frying anything connected that wasn't behind or included a power equalizer.
You can still send it back to Asus when it's unlocked, they'll just charge you for it. I don't know how it is in other parts of the world, but here in Europe the store has to offer you a mandatory 2 year warranty that means they have to take the device back when the hardware mysteriously dies. (with the exclusion of things such as water damage, drop damage and other user-induced damages.)
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Does it make any noise if you plug in the power/usb cord back into the unit? Every once in a while, too often to my liking, my unit's display won't wake. Sometimes after hitting power button and touching the screen it does. Half the time, I have to just hold the power button till it reboots, which is something like sixty seconds.
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EDIT: for clarity... had the 1st one for 21 days, and the second one for 17 days.
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I thought you passed the 30 day window on the second one? But if your unlocked and they know then your screwed. Knowing Asus quality control issue, I would not do anything to break warranty unless I had an aftermarket Accidental warranty such as squaretrade or something similar. But then again, you should have known all of these risks before unlocking and accepted all the consequences good or bad. Now your options are:
1. Play dumb and go back to the store and say that Im on day 17 and my tablet suddenly stopped working and pray they dont tell you to send it to asus for a warranty fix and just give you a new one or even better your money back
2. Send it to Asus, pray they forgive you and fix it for free and make your tablet unlockable or give you the estimate on the damage since they know your tablet is out of warranty.
I worked in electronics\electrical repair for around 34 years...
This sure sounds like an ESD spike problem.
Or ungrounded-improperly grounded house wiring.
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Does it make any noise if you plug in the power/usb cord back into the unit? Every once in a while, too often to my liking, my unit's display won't wake. Sometimes after hitting power button and touching the screen it does. Half the time, I have to just hold the power button till it reboots, which is something like sixty seconds.
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No, it is dead dead.
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I thought you passed the 30 day window on the second one? But if your unlocked and they know then your screwed. Knowing Asus quality control issue, I would not do anything to break warranty unless I had an aftermarket Accidental warranty such as squaretrade or something similar. But then again, you should have known all of these risks before unlocking and accepted all the consequences good or bad. Now your options are:
1. Play dumb and go back to the store and say that Im on day 17 and my tablet suddenly stopped working and pray they dont tell you to send it to asus for a warranty fix and just give you a new one or even better your money back
2. Send it to Asus, pray they forgive you and fix it for free and make your tablet unlockable or give you the estimate on the damage since they know your tablet is out of warranty.
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No, not past the 30 day window on the second one, but the vendor is not very forgiving on warranty related stuff like this. I think they will follow procedure to the letter. It will have to back to asus, or in the garbage. I have no idea how much it will cost to fix. PS - I definately did look at the squaretrade warranty before doing this but they would NOT offer me coverage (in Canada) on a unit I had already purchased (only from select vendors on their list that you purchase through with their warranty).
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I worked in electronics\electrical repair for around 34 years...
This sure sounds like an ESD spike problem.
Or ungrounded-improperly grounded house wiring.
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Well I'm in pretty modern loft and I think the electrical is probably fine (and I've had no other problems with my electronics, and was using surge protector -- not that that's a failsafe solution), but yeah, I'm very quite certain that it has to do with a shorting in the or ESD in the charge connector socket... and I specifically noticed the connector came out a bit sideways both times it happened (ie: not straight out - one side out a bit first). I'm pretty sure there's a design flaw here and that there's some way that he pins are shorting?? Interestingly, I found this guy's post here that has seemed to have experienced the same thing as me - TODAY, it seems:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33857988&postcount=2071
Where did you buy it from?
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Where did you buy it from?
I like my tablet but have read to many of these post. This will be my last experience with Asus for a couple years until the put far more priority on stability respect.
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Alright, so this was my first post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1943667
...unplugged the charging cable (from the TF700 end) and it went black ...and that was IT.
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I read your post two days ago and thought 'unlucky', and went about my life. Then it happened to me last night! Took it off the charger, boom, that was it. This my fourth tablet in 2012 (two Primes, two Infinities), and if I manage to get a refund on this (past my 30 days) then I'll never be going back to Asus. I've tried and tried, and gave them another chance after I got a refund for my always-half-broken Prime, but that's it. Experiment over. Either Nexus 10 or Chromebook for me next.
Yeah, I agree, unfortunately. Call it bad luck perhaps but with this round of failures and my Asus U36JC notebook that lasted 4-days (the replacement has lasted me a 1.5 yrs)... I just don't think I can do it again, as much as I like the brand. These have been my first and only two Asus purchases. Comparatively speaking, I've simply just not had this rate of failure with other [supposedly lesser quality] manufacturers...
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I read your post two days ago and thought 'unlucky', and went about my life. Then it happened to me last night! Took it off the charger, boom, that was it. This my fourth tablet in 2012 (two Primes, two Infinities), and if I manage to get a refund on this (past my 30 days) then I'll never be going back to Asus. I've tried and tried, and gave them another chance after I got a refund for my always-half-broken Prime, but that's it. Experiment over. Either Nexus 10 or Chromebook for me next.
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Yeah, I agree, unfortunately. Call it bad luck perhaps but with this round of failures and my Asus U36JC notebook that lasted 4-days (the replacement has lasted me a 1.5 yrs)... I just don't think I can do it again, as much as I like the brand. These have been my first and only two Asus purchases. Comparatively speaking, I've simply just not had this rate of failure with other [supposedly lesser quality] manufacturers...
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Ah - I've been told RMA is the only way. They must be cracking down on philanthropy after so many people got refunds on their Primes. As my Infinity is bricked AND the buttons barely work, there's a good chance I'll get a new device one hopes.
Sorry about your situation, but yeah, there are so many device manufacturers out there, would be silly not to 'punish' Asus by sticking with them. Mind you, when it comes to 10 inch Android tablets, there's no a lot to choose from.
I had the exact same thing, within 30 days and simply called my seller Amazon and they said and it back for a refund. I THINK I remember seeing the unlocking only voiding warranty fit software issues, not compete hardware failure... maybe with a check?
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Hi guys,
Fairly new to posting on this forum but ive been a long time reader!
Last week i was at the office getting some steady use out of my Nexus 5 (which is in a Spigen NeoHybrid Case) when i put it in my pocket, got up, and accidentally hit the phone on the corner of my desk. The collision wasnt really that hard and so i didnt expect anything to come of it especially considering it was in a case and ive seen people drop theirs from a fair height and still function normally.
However ever since that moment i have been unable to turn my device on at all. It wont charge, it wont connect to the PC, absolutely nothing. I trawled the internet looking at all number of solutions including the various button hold methods.
I decided to chuck a new fully charged battery in the phone and it still didnt turn on but the phone did output some strange rhythmic buzzing noise before getting extremely hot and then nothing again.
Ive also taken out the motherboard and put it in to a healthy Nexus 5 phone and get the same issue which leads me to believe i have somehow damaged the Mobo :/
My question to you all is, have i got any chance in hell of getting my phone back to life before Google expect me to send it back in their RMA service? I could really do with recovering the data that is on the phone which includes a lot of family holiday photos i hadnt backed up (stupid of me i know).
Also, does anyone know what that buzzing sound might have been? Ive tried searching everywhere on the net and had no luck and im getting pretty desperate now. ANy help at all is much appreciated.
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Sam
I would also just like to state that im more than happy to reward anyone who helps me out significantly enough and manages to get my data back (or at least my phone visible on the PC so i can extract it).
I don't think data can be recovered. I don't know if I'm making any sense or not but if the eMMC chip is fine, then you can show it to a professional so that he could try to repair the motherboard (if it can be indeed done without wiping the data, lol). But the chances of that are slim to none.
Put it on a wall charger for an hour or so and try to boot it up. But I guess you've already tried that?
Apart from all this, It will be a miracle if google indeed accepted the RMA request since you've opened up the device, tried to swap the mobo and stuff.
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I don't think data can be recovered. I don't know if I'm making any sense or not but if the eMMC chip is fine, then you can show it to a professional so that he could try to repair the motherboard (if it can be indeed done without wiping the data, lol). But the chances of that are slim to none.
Put it on a wall charger for an hour or so and try to boot it up. But I guess you've already tried that?
Apart from all this, It will be a miracle if google indeed accepted the RMA request since you've opened up the device, tried to swap the mobo and stuff.
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Thanks for the help
I have already tried charging it for long periods of time but its fairly obvious to me now that the phone isnt charging at all. It was only when i placed an already charged battery in the phone that i got the buzzing noise from the Mobo and the phone started to get very hot (turned out it drained approximately 30% of the battery in about 10 minutes).
Im not too worried about them not accepting the RMA as i have had other friends request the RMA service after opening up their phone, and in one case completely replacing the screen themselves and never had a problem. Its just such a shame as ive kept the phone in such good condition to avoid this from happening
So far the symptoms are:
- Phone wont turn on or charge.
- New battery in the phone causes phone to heat up and drain battery very quickly as well as produce a rhythmic buzzing noise from the motherboard.
- Placing Motherboard in a new healthy Nexus 5 device causes the same issue.
Hmmm. Sad. The blow must have been pretty nasty then. Table corners can be quite dangerous.
Can't you get the motherboard repaired locally? It will surely void the warranty but if the photos and other data are so important to you, that's the only slim chance you've got.
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Hmmm. Sad. The blow must have been pretty nasty then. Table corners can be quite dangerous.
Can't you get the motherboard repaired locally? It will surely void the warranty but if the photos and other data are so important to you, that's the only slim chance you've got.
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Its really frustrating considering how well i have looked after it otherwise. Im also a little disappointed that the Spigen case didnt protect it better. The blow was nastier than i would have wanted but definitely not something that in my opinion should have broken the phone altogether :/
I can send the phone off to LG to repair it but this requires me sending the Phone to Sydney and waiting however long for them to possibly come back and tell me it cant be repaired.
My plan now is to wait for my new device to come through from the RMA service and then when i package up my old phone to send it back im going to leave a note explaining that whoever finds/deals with the phone, if they can recover my photos and videos and send them back to me on a USB i will reimburse them for it all as well as chucking in a $100 reward. I'll leave my name, number and email and hope that be some miracle it finds its way into the hands of someone willing to help.
In all honesty though what are my chances of that actually working :/
Should look into photo syncing or cloud storage lol. :silly: If I have anything that's important to me, I don't keep it only on my phone, I either move it off or backup/sync it into the cloud.
Chances of them recovering your photos, putting it in an USB stick and couriering it to you seem thin.Never seen such a thing happening
As stated in the post above me, I think you should move on and treat this as "lesson learned". I backup all my things to my computer over wifi using FolderSync and the important ones go to my dropbox via foldersync. You can even schedule it to make your custom backup every night/week/month and so on.
Hey guys I've had my N5 for almost a year now but it seems to have gone kaput on me recently...
On Monday I was on a skype call, (just audio) when my phone suddenly restarted, I didn't pay much mind to it as that happened before and it would usually just cut back on, but this time, it restarted, and restarted and just didn't stop. That lead me to think its the power button being stuck so i checked it out and made sure its not being depressed and well yeah it wasn't. And soon after that the phones screen was sometimes on during the reboots and sometimes off. I knew it was rebooting because the N5 vibrates a bit when Google pops up on the loading screen in a certain way, but yeah now the screen doesn't light up at all, there's still vibrations and sounds like when I call or when I say Okay Google a few times, the LED will even light up during a call. I know the phone is "on and working" in the background but the screen doesn't light up and as such I can't touch it, any ideas and or advice friends?
bump de bump?
Possibly your backlight burnt out? Water damage?
if you are running cyanogenmod, you could be experiencing sod "sleep of death". thats when you know the phone is on and working, but the screen doesnt turn on. ive been reading lots of complaints about cm and the sod.
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Possibly your backlight burnt out? Water damage?
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As the phone kept rebooting it went from seeing everything, to seeing nothing but the back light to dark, so maybe? It was just by me on my desk too so I was doubtful about the water damage but I put it in the sealed rice bag for about 24 hours just in case but still no luck.
I actually am running cyanogenmod and whenever I do have a problem I always feel that its related to CM as the phone doesn't have any physical damage...maybe I should look into that, any other ideas friends?
P.S I am using the ElementalX Kernel and UNFORTUNATELY I turned on the FAST CHARGE USB option and that makes the phone play funny with the computer, if you guys have any advice as to how I could turn off that option please do let me know
http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...l-06-03-14-one-click-factory-restore-t2513937
I used this tool to try and remove anything that could be bothering my phone, software wise, and I'm not sure if it wiped away Kernels and Roms but thought you guys should know, my computer now recognizes the phone and I can see folders and such, which are now empty.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/goo...l-06-03-14-one-click-factory-restore-t2513937
I used this tool to try and remove anything that could be bothering my phone, software wise, and I'm not sure if it wiped away Kernels and Roms but thought you guys should know, my computer now recognizes the phone and I can see folders and such, which are now empty.
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all it does is completely wipe your phone and install an older android version. flashing the factory img will do the same, except youll get the newest android version. don't use these tools, doing things the right way will be more beneficial to you. anyways, since cm is having issues, try a different rom, or just go stock.
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all it does is completely wipe your phone and install an older android version. flashing the factory img will do the same, except youll get the newest android version. don't use these tools, doing things the right way will be more beneficial to you. anyways, since cm is having issues, try a different rom, or just go stock.
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Thats my problem though my screen is still untouchable or see able and it makes it hard to flash stuff since I can't properly use TWRP, and having the fast charge hack on my computer doesnt really sense im in USB Debug but I guesssss its off now though, but still no screen loving
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Thats my problem though my screen is still untouchable or see able and it makes it hard to flash stuff since I can't properly use TWRP, and having the fast charge hack on my computer doesnt really sense im in USB Debug but I guesssss its off now though, but still no screen loving
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if still no screen, its probably physically damaged(hit or factory damage). is an exchange possible?
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if still no screen, its probably physically damaged(hit or factory damage). is an exchange possible?
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Well i got mine through the Play Store and I did think about an RMA, I know there was that free screen replacement thing going on but the customer rep sounded like he had no idea what I was talking about. and I'm thinking its a flex cable issue as my phone hasn't incurred any damage from drops or bumps or anything since i make it a point to be stationary while using phone, but....where the sim card tray is, that "bridge" or thin piece on the bottom side toward the phone has split as a result of my bad sim card ejecting, but that was when i first obtained the phone, also there is another split, inside the phone there is a canopy above the charging port that is split but i still know that occurred long before this, and its not even an electrical piece along with the sim card bridge thing.
BUTTT yeah im afraid if I RMA they will use that as an excuse to charge me $400, even though I know it's not playing any sort of factor in my screen acting up....Is there a policy on that?
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Well i got mine through the Play Store and I did think about an RMA, I know there was that free screen replacement thing going on but the customer rep sounded like he had no idea what I was talking about. and I'm thinking its a flex cable issue as my phone hasn't incurred any damage from drops or bumps or anything since i make it a point to be stationary while using phone, but....where the sim card tray is, that "bridge" or thin piece on the bottom side toward the phone has split as a result of my bad sim card ejecting, but that was when i first obtained the phone, also there is another split, inside the phone there is a canopy above the charging port that is split but i still know that occurred long before this, and its not even an electrical piece along with the sim card bridge thing.
BUTTT yeah im afraid if I RMA they will use that as an excuse to charge me $400, even though I know it's not playing any sort of factor in my screen acting up....Is there a policy on that?
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ive rma'ed before, google is really good about it. i sent my nexus 7 back with a custom recovery, rom, kernel.. and the thing going on with google and exchanging the n5 once without question, isnt about the screen, its for anything.
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ive rma'ed before, google is really good about it. i sent my nexus 7 back with a custom recovery, rom, kernel.. and the thing going on with google and exchanging the n5 once without question, isnt about the screen, its for anything.
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I suppose I might as well shoot for it? Is there a way to decline paying for the device if they decide that I should pay?
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I suppose I might as well shoot for it? Is there a way to decline paying for the device if they decide that I should pay?
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send back the rma? honestly, i dont know. i dont know anyone thats ever had to pay. unless its obvious that you did something, youll be fine.
So when you hold down the power button and the vol - for about 15 seconds the bootloader screen doesn't show up? If so, yeah try to RMA.
I will chat it up with one of the customer service peeps and see what they think then, and maybe even hopefully one will know about the replace anything deal
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So when you hold down the power button and the vol - for about 15 seconds the bootloader screen doesn't show up? If so, yeah try to RMA.
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and yup Ik its in bootloader mode though because the computer beeps and tries installing drivers and what not and also because it does that single vibrate, but yeah the screen is still dark so I can't see my selections, I believe I can still actually make a selection though, just unable to see them
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and yup Ik its in bootloader mode though because the computer beeps and tries installing drivers and what not and also because it does that single vibrate, but yeah the screen is still dark so I can't see my selections, I believe I can still actually make a selection though, just unable to see them
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Check to make sure you have the newest drivers (there's a sticky in the general section with all the useful info). If you bought it from the play store see if you can get an RMA - Google seems to have a good rep with this. It wouldn't hurt to flash a factory image to erase everything either before sending it off (privacy and whatnot). If you have the newest TWRP (2.8.0.1) if you boot into recovery and you should be able to access the internal storage without having to select anything (in case there's anything there not backed up). Boot to recovery is volume down twice and power I think.
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Check to make sure you have the newest drivers (there's a sticky in the general section with all the useful info). If you bought it from the play store see if you can get an RMA - Google seems to have a good rep with this. It wouldn't hurt to flash a factory image to erase everything either before sending it off (privacy and whatnot). If you have the newest TWRP (2.8.0.1) if you boot into recovery and you should be able to access the internal storage without having to select anything (in case there's anything there not backed up). Boot to recovery is volume down twice and power I think.
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Well now that I used that tool I'm not sure if my recovery is still TWRP or if it's stock, it flashed a stock factory image I'm told, but that doesn't remove the Kernel and Recovery too does it? I wanna get it as stock as possible before I sent it out. At this point I believe it has a factory image but I can't say for sure about anything else
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Well now that I used that tool I'm not sure if my recovery is still TWRP or if it's stock, it flashed a stock factory image I'm told, but that doesn't remove the Kernel and Recovery too does it? I wanna get it as stock as possible before I sent it out. At this point I believe it has a factory image but I can't say for sure about anything else
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See here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2513701.
hi guys, i already searched for a thread of someone with the same issue, but i haven't found anything on the whole internet (maybe it's just because i'm nervous as sh*t)... please let me know if i did wrong
the problem is: yesterday i was using regularly my Nexus 5, but suddenly i wasn't able to turn it on again. Just like a second before i was using it, and then it won't wake up. Now it is still turned off, i can't wake it up in any way, i tried every combination of keys, i tried holding on the power button for more than a minute, i tried pushing it hard, i tried everything. The only thing i'm able to do is plugging it on the charger, then it goes on a bootloop with the word "google" and a small vibration (just as it's like to turn it on) and then after a second the screen becomes black again, and this happens continuously untill i unplug it (i tried even for 2 hours and it still do like that). It is just like it wants to wake up, but then it is turned off, and on, and off, and on...
when he does like that i tried holding the vol down button just to try to enter the recovery mode, but even when i achieve to enter it, it still turn off so i can't decide what to do. Every guide i read on the web tells me to backup, then to erase all data, or something similar... but the problem is that i can't even access recovery mode, so that i'm not able to do anything if the phone is turned off completely.
i already called for the warranty, i have a completely stock phone so it's not a problem and i think they will change my phone, but i'm really worried this will erase all the data i have in my sd, and i would like to know if there's a way to copy what's inside the memory of the phone without turning it on
sorry guys but i'm really depressed, i've bought the phone on january... not even a year and i've wasted 350€
So, first question have you tried plugging into a computer? You may be able to pull some files off.
Second, was any of your stuff backed up using cloud storage, such as google drive? If not... You have my sympathy.
What app(s) were you running when it "Died"?[Edit: Died]
So you are completely stock, no root, no custom recovery, no nothing?
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So, first question have you tried plugging into a computer? You may be able to pull some files off.
Second, was any of your stuff backed up using cloud storage, such as google drive? If not... You have my sympathy.
What app(s) were you running when it "Died"?[Edit: Died]
So you are completely stock, no root, no custom recovery, no nothing?
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1) yes i tried: it does the same as if i plug it into the charger (google and vibration for a second, then turned off again, repeatedly). I can't access the data from my pc with the way i was used before (i could copy data only if the phone was on)
2) i use dropbox, google drive, and others, but not with the syncronization (i decided when and what to upload) so there's a lot of things that now aren't accessible and i'm scared i'll lose
3) well i wasn't using anything when it died... i think the cronometer was running, maybe whatsapp... recently i downloaded ePSXe for android with a couple of ROMs, but for a whole week or two i never had problems using it
4) yes completely stock, the only thing i did was abiliting the developer options (but a looong time ago, and i never changed them, i was only curious). With my old smartphone i used to play a lot with custom roms, but now i wanted to keep my nexus clean at least until the end of the warrancy
news from the google service: they told me some procedures to do, any of them work. They told me that their warrancy works like that: first they will send me another nexus 5 (not new, only a refurbished one) for the price of a new phone, then i have to send them my old phone. When it arrives, they will refurbish it, and they will give me back my 350€.
I really think that's not very fair... first because i don't want a phone that somebody used before me, and i don't want to give my phone to someone else
second because they don't really care that i lost all my data... after all this mess i will only obtain a phone that isn't new, and without my data! just like if google erased all my data for nothing.
please guys at least tell me if there's a way to recover all the data i've lost.You know: i have a 16gb flash storage full of data in my hand that i want to copy on my pc, there should be a way!
sorry for the anger
Have you read anything from @supersu or @simms22. Both of them are very knowledgeable on the N5.
The other thing is you could try calling google again and get a different person.
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supersu? You mean @rootSU?
OP, your power button is stuck, nothing you can do except RMA (or maybe take your phone apart).
Lethargy said:
OP, your power button is stuck, nothing you can do except RMA (or maybe take your phone apart).
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:crying::crying:
i also read a forum in the country i live (italy) and it seems to be a frequent problem these days... a lot of guys who have a 9-10 months old phone accuse the same issue, and the only solution seems to be the motherboard substitution (or the google warancy phone substitution). Google told me they will give me a refurbished phone, but i know sometimes they have scratches, they are not perfect, so why do i have to trade my phone for another one that could not be new? i know they used to send new phones in the early days... Do you guys have experience in that? have you ever send you nexus5 to google? what did they do?
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Google told me they will give me a refurbished phone, but i know sometimes they have scratches, they are not perfect, so why do i have to trade my phone for another one that could not be new? i know they used to send new phones in the early days... Do you guys have experience in that? have you ever send you nexus5 to google? what did they do?
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You get a refurbished one because too many people have RMA'd for silly reasons like loose power buttons, speaker hole size and screen light bleed. So blame them.
Usually a refurbished device should be near-perfect; those who have gotten ones with damage are just unlucky; and you can just call Google again anyways.
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You get a refurbished one because too many people have RMA'd for silly reasons like loose power buttons, speaker hole size and screen light bleed. So blame them.
Usually a refurbished device should be near-perfect; those who have gotten ones with damage are just unlucky; and you can just call Google again anyways.
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i think i'll see if i can get my phone fixed with the LG warrancy in a LGcentre in my town, at least they will tell me if i have to throw my phone away... then i'll use the google warrancy.
to me it sounds as your storage corrupted, not power button. if it was power button, youd be able to get it booted, then it would bootloop. if it is the storage that corrupted, an rma would be best.
So, I flashed my S8+ onto BatMan-Rom today with no apparent issues. Clean flash, booted with no problems. While restoring apps (not system data) with Titanium Backup, my phone's screen switched off and I couldn't get it back on. The phone got really hot but would not reset with holding power+vol+bixby or any other button combination. Tried plugging into my PC, ADB didn't detect the phone. Desperate, I disassembled the phone far enough to disconnect the battery from the mainboard and then reconnect it, hoping that would force some kind of reset. Instead, I went from a hot phone I couldn't do anything with to a cold one. No button combo gets me anything - no recovery, no odin mode, nothing. Am I as screwed as I think I am? It seems to me I'm out $900 on a paperweight, and I can't even figure out what went wrong since I wasn't messing with anything at the system level when this happened.
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So, I flashed my S8+ onto BatMan-Rom today with no apparent issues. Clean flash, booted with no problems. While restoring apps (not system data) with Titanium Backup, my phone's screen switched off and I couldn't get it back on. The phone got really hot but would not reset with holding power+vol+bixby or any other button combination. Tried plugging into my PC, ADB didn't detect the phone. Desperate, I disassembled the phone far enough to disconnect the battery from the mainboard and then reconnect it, hoping that would force some kind of reset. Instead, I went from a hot phone I couldn't do anything with to a cold one. No button combo gets me anything - no recovery, no odin mode, nothing. Am I as screwed as I think I am? It seems to me I'm out $900 on a paperweight, and I can't even figure out what went wrong since I wasn't messing with anything at the system level when this happened.
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Oh, dude...I feel your pain....wish I could help.
Can't you just contact the retailer and sort of, ahem, forget to tell them that you rooted it and took it apart and that it just, well, simply broke?
Surely there's some kinda warranty?
Or claim on home contents insurance?
Sorry i can't be more help..but hopefully some of the XDA experts will be replying very soon.
Come on guys, try and help this guy out:good:
Matt
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Can't you just contact the retailer and sort of, ahem, forget to tell them that you rooted it and took it apart and that it just, well, simply broke?
Surely there's some kinda warranty?
Or claim on home contents insurance?
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You're proposing fraud, which is a form of theft. And ultimately, it's all the other customers who subsidize such acts.
What we customers are subsidizing is Samsung's greedy bull**** of producing different versions of a product specifically so they can get away with not offering warranty coverage for unlocked/rooted devices in North America. If there were a way for me to game the system to force them (or a retailer) to replace my phone, believe me, I would, especially since this happened when I was restoring apps and not in the course of flashing a rom or otherwise messing with anything at the system level; it does feel like a defect in the device to me at this point.
That's all academic though, since I'm outside the retailer's return window and there's not going to be anything accomplished through that angle. Worst case scenario at this point is selling the device for parts and going back to my Nexus 6P with all its battery issues until I can get my hands on a phone made by a company that doesn't pull this "no warranty for power users" crap - an Essential Phone or a Pixel 2 XL, I guess. But I would of course prefer to find a way to fix my S8+. At the moment I think the first problem is that it's not charging - battery doesn't even get warmer than room temperature after being plugged in for hours. I'm going to try a wireless charger tonight and see if the charger lights up saying it's connected to the device, but I'm not holding out much hope.
I've read that previous Galaxy devices could be reflashed to stock with special USB devices that repair shops had access to...do we know if there's anything like that with the S8?
"Power users" amount to nothing now with all the millions sold and billions made. They make more locking down there stuff. Doing the stuff we do now is considered a security risk.
Look, this is getting off topic. Whether or not you think billion-dollar corporations should be able to artificially create situations that drive certain customers to purchase devices without warranty coverage so they can ignore us when things go wrong and make another easy $800 is not really important. The situation I'm in is what it is, and I imagine others might find themselves in that situation sooner or later, so does anyone have any ideas on a) how this might have happened in the first place or b) what I might try in the way of repairs, short of replacing the mainboard?
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Look, this is getting off topic. Whether or not you think billion-dollar corporations should be able to artificially create situations that drive certain customers to purchase devices without warranty coverage so they can ignore us when things go wrong and make another easy $800 is not really important. The situation I'm in is what it is, and I imagine others might find themselves in that situation sooner or later, so does anyone have any ideas on a) how this might have happened in the first place or b) what I might try in the way of repairs, short of replacing the mainboard?
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just sent it to change/repair using ur garant...it seems a phisical problem more than firmware/software issue...if not go to a repair service so they can check wich piece is making the problem.
Theres a posibility is the mainboard so dont waste more time asking here and go to a repair center in or out of warranty.