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HTC Vivid or SGSII Skyrocket?

I was going to upgrade to a SGSII until I just heard these two are coming out in the next couple weeks.
Issue with SGSII is now the user base and Devs will be split between these two devices. Add to that, it's still unclear if the phone will be on Exynos or Snapdragon - which could affect the Rom base.
The Vivid however looks like a really nice phone as well. Just unsure how many Devs will be jumping on that. Add to that it's a qHD screen (although probably not close to the SAMOLED+ in terms of colors and blacks).
Decisions...
But 4.5inch on a 800x480 doesn't seem to great. The qHD is quite better for a 4.5inch.

qwertyaas said:
I was going to upgrade to a SGSII until I just heard these two are coming out in the next couple weeks.
Issue with SGSII is now the user base and Devs will be split between these two devices. Add to that, it's still unclear if the phone will be on Exynos or Snapdragon - which could affect the Rom base.
The Vivid however looks like a really nice phone as well. Just unsure how many Devs will be jumping on that. Add to that it's a qHD screen (although probably not close to the SAMOLED+ in terms of colors and blacks).
Decisions...
But 4.5inch on a 800x480 doesn't seem to great. The qHD is quite better for a 4.5inch.
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The GS2LTE is a 1.2GHz clocked CPU; therefore, it is an Exynos and not the 1.5GHz Snapdragon present in the TMobile version.
The Vivid, being the only AT&T HTC device (and since it's a newer HTC device, hopefully stock unlocked bootloaders), should have a decent following both in general userbase and in development. I get the feeling that the only reason why people gravitated to the Captivate is due to the fact that it was AT&T's only reasonable Android device at the time.
I've just been so frustrated with Samsung's stock experience on the Captivate and all the problems that this phone has been giving me, unlike my friend's rooted and near-stock Inspire 4G, that I will never consider buying a Samsung Android device again. I don't care how good it looks on paper; the Captivate did not really work in practice until developers got their hands dirty and fixed it for the rest of us.

HTC.......
the SGS2 is great, but HTC always gets the latest and greatest and the most dev support....

qwertyaas said:
I was going to upgrade to a SGSII until I just heard these two are coming out in the next couple weeks.
Issue with SGSII is now the user base and Devs will be split between these two devices. Add to that, it's still unclear if the phone will be on Exynos or Snapdragon - which could affect the Rom base.
The Vivid however looks like a really nice phone as well. Just unsure how many Devs will be jumping on that. Add to that it's a qHD screen (although probably not close to the SAMOLED+ in terms of colors and blacks).
Decisions...
But 4.5inch on a 800x480 doesn't seem to great. The qHD is quite better for a 4.5inch.
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As much as I'm getting frustrated with my Cappy, I think I'm going to wait it out and see what other XDA members say about both of them before buying. Also, I want to see something official from the manufacturers and ATT on whether or not these are getting ICS.
I don't know about this (just thinking out loud here), but could the resolutions change after an ICS update? If it's possible, it would be worth waiting to see what happens after (if) they get an ICS update.
I really want to trust the specs from Samsung but after the GPS issues, the reboot issues, the poor camera quality, the lack of release updates (be it ATT or Samsung) - it's going to be tough to woo me back to another Samsung phone. I know I have a 1GHz phone with good hardware in my hands but my senses always feel like my wife's Nexus1 runs smoother and better on older hardware.
If Samsung (and all phone manufacturers for this matter) actually cared about the customer there would be one form factor across all wireless providers to help encourage innovative accessories and to help reduce the cost of accessories for the customer. Ok, now I'm ranting on a tangent. Time to stop.

The SGS2 i777 already has a good Dev base and continuing to grow already. The sgs2 i777 has in common with the i9100 as we that have/had cappys should know the i897 cappy and i9000 were like sisters and is HOW we had so much Dev support. Most the devs that I have seen already are stating that they are staying with the i777 and NOT moving to the i727 skyrocket.
There are already a few post over in the ATT SGS2 General forums debating this so you can catch up on it beforehand.
Basically it is an ALMOST FOR SURE thing that it is NOT the 1.5Ghz Exerynos chip in it since Samsung stated that ONLY test chips were ready by the end of this year and should make it into phones by the middle of 2012.
The screen is .2" larger but with the SAME 800x480 resolution.
It is Lte which is the ONLY GOOD THING I see in it unless you live in an Lte area now and don't stray out.of that area. The Lte coverage will ONLY BE 12 markets by the end.of the year and will take a few years to spread it out better.
Back to the Dev support, if you look into the tmobile section of xda you will see how slow the Dev support is there and how they have like 1 base kernel that is not tweaked much at all. The Dev base is not too good compared to the Dev base of the i777.
The reason I mention the T-Mobile version is it sounds like MOSTLY it is the same phone with the same chipsets just with a different Lte radio.
I came from/still have 2 of 3 of my cappys, went to the sgs2 i777 on Oct. 4th and Lte will be in my area by the end of the year. I am within the timeframe to return the sgs2 now but wont be doing it due to the Dev base and the similarities with it and the i9100. Which as we know the i9000 got all the updates and goodies which were pretty easily ported over to out captivates since they were similiar. The SAME is/will be true with the i777 and i9100. The i727 doesn't have a sister unbranded phone to port from so will likely be at the mercy of ATT for future software updates. The i777 should get ICS shortly after the i9100 well before att decides to give us ICS on either phone. So to make a long story short I am choosing because.of the Dev support and compatibility of phones already out there. The i727 will be a 1fer phone, one of a kind for the most part. Not wanting to start a i777/i727 flaming war here as each person will have their own ideas about it. That is how.it has already turned into in most of the post about this subject over there. Just giving my thoughts and feelings here.
Plus I have always qualified for an upgrade.on my line every 12 months as I did this time. So 12 months.from now Lte may be in a better spotlight with coverage, the sgs3 should be making its way by that time. The i777 sgs2 kicks ass for sure and I have not had any of the little learning issues/bad flashes/ test software as when I started out with my cappy last year in July. It just works without any of the hiccups. We had actual roms on LAUNCH DAY due to being SO CLOSE to the i9100...
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I guess it's true and I thought this before. If going for a SGSII, no point not getting the original - especially since soon ports of the International SGSII will be coming around and the Skyrocket might have different HW.
But the HTC is tempting as they usually make really nice phones - and there might be a good amount of Devs and people in general jumping on it after the Inspire.

Looks like the SGS2LTE has the Exynos 4212 just from comparing hardware specs. The 1.2Ghz version in the regular SGS2 the Exynos 4210. Throw "Exynos 4212" into google search and you'll see some impressive specs. It is supposed to have 30% better power use and 5 times more powerful graphics performance. I'm not an expert, but this is just what I think is under the hood.

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Looks like the SGS2LTE has the Exynos 4212 just from comparing hardware specs. The 1.2Ghz version in the regular SGS2 the Exynos 4210. Throw "Exynos 4212" into google search and you'll see some impressive specs. It is supposed to have 30% better power use and 5 times more powerful graphics performance. I'm not an expert, but this is just what I think is under the hood.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1319484
Read on the Rogers version Qualcomm
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Posted by Mr.Junky on other post. http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=4124&idPhone2=4130
Only issue I see is that it list the OG SGS2 as still having the FM radio and the pic of the Ltd version is of a i9100 or something with the physical home button.
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Once the chipset is officially confirmed exyons vs qualcomm that will be the deciding factor in ROM porting. If the skyrocket has the qualcomm chip, there will be no i9100 ports. The only chance of ports will be the TMo version, which should have very little likelyhood of being any better than the ATT version.
There is a lot of circumstancial evidence pointing to the qualcomm chip, check out the several large threads in the i777 Galaxy S II forum. Most devs chimed in and have said the i777 will be the only us version capable of getting ROM ports from the I9100, because they are so close.
There is no proof yet the Vivid will have an unlocked bootloader when shipped.
If you enjoy flashing ROMs, or want the most selection in ROMs, the i777 OG GS II will likely be your best bet.
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Can't decide if I should get SG2 skyrocket or HTC vivid.
I am returning my AT&T SG2 tomorrow.

vl221 said:
Can't decide if I should get SG2 skyrocket or HTC vivid.
I am returning my AT&T SG2 tomorrow.
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Ah, first world troubles. I seriously doubt either phone will disappoint in any showstopping way, with or without a substantial amount of developer support.

Currently I have a Galaxy S II Epic 4g touch on sprint. I will be leaving sprint for multiple reason and going to AT&T to get the HTC Vivid. In my opinion samsung makes better phones but HTC gives you a much better user experience. Here are some pro's and cons of samsung and htc (my opinions are based on my current phone the gs2 and my previous phone the evo)
Samsung beats HTC at:
Screen is better
Camera is better
CPU is faster
Sound on speaker is louder and more clear
HTC beats Samsung at:
Way better widgets
Screen is more sensitive
GPS actually works (gps on samsung phones are always pure failure)
Higher quality plastic
please dont get mad if you disagree this is just my opinion. I will be getting the white vivid and will never get a non htc phone again.

The normal SGS II is better than the Skyrocket. FYI.

The one real downer to the SGS II LTE that would probably stop me from getting it is the resolution is 480 x 800 pixels @ 4.5 inches = 207ppi pixel density?? REALLY?! I think the G1 had better than that

So the HTC vivid and the SGS2 Lte both have worse processors that the OG SGS2? One with 1.2 snapdragon and the other with 1.5 qualcomm?
http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/3/2535251/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-skyrocket-pictures-hands-on-att-lte
Glad I am sticking with the OG SGS2
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Only downside now w/ the Vivid, is that it is plastic and not the usual aluminum unibody construction. One of the things that always separated HTC from Samsung IMO

Noob question: I don't know much about the new phones coming out but wouldn't the new nexus that's coming out be a greater or just as good choice. Just wondering because I always thought the nexus s had the most dev support and updates since it was a google phone.
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mossination said:
Noob question: I don't know much about the new phones coming out but wouldn't the new nexus that's coming out be a greater or just as good choice. Just wondering because I always thought the nexus s had the most dev support and updates since it was a google phone.
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It will, but not everyone is willing to fork over money off-contract; I've heard that they're changing it to allow multiple carriers to subsidize, but still. I am passionately avoiding Samsung devices from now on.

I thought Nexus is exclusive to Verizon in the US. Not much help for the ATT, Tmobile and Spring folks.
Aus_Azn said:
It will, but not everyone is willing to fork over money off-contract; I've heard that they're changing it to allow multiple carriers to subsidize, but still. I am passionately avoiding Samsung devices from now on.
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What is wrong with Samsung? I have a SG2 but debating if I should get the Vivid or the Skyrocket.
Specs wise it seems like the skyrocket got the Vivid beat.

which phoen should i get!?

i'm going to get a new phone to replace my Samsung gs Captivate,
my phone is still working , but getting slow since i have more then 60apps installed, and camera focus is broken.
my phone is rooted+custom 2.3ROM+OC, still slow...XXXXXX
im in BC, canada with roger, still have 1 year contract.
i like the look of GS II(i9100)
but rogers don't have it, only Bell GSII 4G look the same, and i'm not going to move to bell
3 device im interested
Motorola razr
Galaxy Nexus
GSII LTE(i'm not going to upgrade to LTE network...LTE seems less interested to me)
what i think about those 3 phones
razr have the best look(i think).
Galaxy Nexushave the best support for android(son of Google)
LTE.....only faster CPU, and expensive LTE
which one should i get....
give me some suggestions please
thank you very much

i'd go for the Galaxy Nexus seeing you're into custom roms

Galaxy Nexus should

The Samsung Galaxy S2 is fine, or the HTC HD2 (warning, it has windows but HUGE Android ROM Support here)

HTC sensation?

GS2 is better than Sensation, not to mention Gnexus..
GS2 weights less, performs much faster (my bro can barely play GTA3 on Sensation) and has a much, much better* screen which you can even use outdoors.

HTC Sensation is very nice. ;-) Awesome design and performance!

Go with the Nexus...
720p resolution screen is amazing!
Plus it's a google phone and from the looks it will be a major flagship device for them (unlike the nexus s), so it will receive all and any new updates first. That being said when the official release is made the custom roms will only be that much more stable!

thank you everyone!
i guess i will go for galaxy nexus.
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I woudla said sgs or sgs II but seeing how you're not interested in the SGS and nor much interested in the SGS II then i'd say galaxy nexus, being a direct google product has the obvious benefits, plus being a samsung product ensures good reliability, and custom ROM-ing seems very popular and well supported for the samsung line of smart phones. My SGS seems to have a shed load of ROMS for it!
Nexus S

smacko said:
i'd go for the Galaxy Nexus seeing you're into custom roms
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That will be my choice too, go for it.
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HTC Sensation @ ARHD 6.2.1
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Galaxy Nexus

Galaxy Nexus. Simple choice.

If you must choose now take Galaxy Nexus, but better is to wate until april/may when new phones will arrive to carriers.

Nexus
I would say #1 is the galaxy nexus. It is a great advantage if you want stock android, and if you generally use the stock rom. If you use custom roms, then this won't be a big deal, as you can flash an updated rom. The motorola razr is the second best choice in my opinion. Motorola phones have relatively low amounts of bloatware and are relatively easy to root compared to other phones like samsung.
hope i helped

Nexus S
you may also like the unique curved body of the galaxy s. it is a show off point, but i don't know if that is important to you.

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tennis77 said:
I would say #1 is the galaxy nexus. It is a great advantage if you want stock android, and if you generally use the stock rom. If you use custom roms, then this won't be a big deal, as you can flash an updated rom.
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On the flipside, of course, the Galaxy Nexus is also the phone of choice if you're looking for custom ROMs It already acts as a Nexus (pun intended) and benchmark for developers, since it was the device to have supported ICS the longest. Plus, as the latest Nexus device (until later this year), and destined for official updates from google, one can expect dev interest to continue for quite some time.

better wait for xperia S .... or wait for mwc 2012, there will be alot new phone coming......

I will chose phone that can be giving ics update like xperia 2011 family
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It depends how much money u can spend for this phone if i will have "some" cash i will buy phone with TI OMAP5 Cortex-A15 made in 28nm technology its 2 core processor but its much more better then tegra 3 and have good battery life with good performance.

[Q] Galaxy SIII or wait for quad core device

Hey guys, I'm brand new to XDA but am a long time frequent user of the forums. I am currently using the HTC Thunderbolt (great phone). I am looking to upgrade in December and I am trying to determine if I should get the GSIII or wait until q1 of 2013 and get a quadcore device. I know the GSIII is amazing in terms of hardware and receives plenty of support from dev regarding rooting and custom roms but I'm not sure which to do. So as the title says, if you were in my shoes, would you buy the GSIII or wait for a Quad Core device?

you never know what will come out in this last part of the year. Some quad core lte device might come out before December.

fr8cture said:
you never know what will come out in this last part of the year. Some quad core lte device might come out before December.
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Yeah, I'm was just thinking it would be safer to go with a solid dual core rather than a first gen quad core. My problem is i'm impatient and I want a new phone now lol

tlelling said:
Hey guys, I'm brand new to XDA but am a long time frequent user of the forums. I am currently using the HTC Thunderbolt (great phone). I am looking to upgrade in December and I am trying to determine if I should get the GSIII or wait until q1 of 2013 and get a quadcore device. I know the GSIII is amazing in terms of hardware and receives plenty of support from dev regarding rooting and custom roms but I'm not sure which to do. So as the title says, if you were in my shoes, would you buy the GSIII or wait for a Quad Core device?
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If you could wait, you should since quad core is a new beginning of another high tech level. Also I believe you're going to see some quad core devices will be out before year end like the Galaxy Note 2...

There's always something better around the corner.
I'd call Verizon and see if they would push up your upgrade. They often will. Failing that, wait it out until a decent quad core is released.

"The next big thing is already here" - Galaxy S3.
In all seriousness, I probably would have waited for the Note 2, but due to Verizon's upgrade policy, I had to get in on the pre-order to keep my unlimited data.

I just upgraded I was going to wait but i suck at waiting. I would wait if you have more patience than me but the Galaxy S3 is great I don't regret.

Pirate Chef said:
I just upgraded I was going to wait but i suck at waiting. I would wait if you have more patience than me but the Galaxy S3 is great I don't regret.
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What phone are you coming from? Not sure how better the GSIII is than the Thunderbolt (overclocked at 1.5ghz with Liquid ICS v.1,5 MR3).

tlelling said:
What phone are you coming from? Not sure how better the GSIII is than the Thunderbolt (overclocked at 1.5ghz with Liquid ICS v.1,5 MR3).
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i came from an OG droid to a galaxy s3. i couldn't wait any more.

at this point, might as well wait for nexus news

tlelling said:
What phone are you coming from? Not sure how better the GSIII is than the Thunderbolt (overclocked at 1.5ghz with Liquid ICS v.1,5 MR3).
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Makes Tbolt look like old feature phone. :laugh:

The SIII is fast. I actually underclock it in order to further extend my battery just that little bit. Unless youre into CPU eating games I doubt there's much of a need for the quad-core considering the added time of waiting.

Dont get the s3. Youll regret it
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The Galaxy S3 is a really solid phone (even the dual core variant). Very little difference with the international quad core variant speedwise.
I would wait for the Galaxy Note 2 (most likely with LTE and Quad Core support). Either that or the LG Optimus G (except it's made by LG......)
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The 2 gigs of ram is far more beneficial than 4 cores. All my apps get left right where they were when I swapped apps. Including games. And it's snappy. So with snappy being equal on most high end models, take the 2 gigs of ram in the s3 and run with it! It's not something you think you need until you have it.
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I love my s3 but I'm waiting for the note 2 to come out here soon don't get me wrong the s3 is one bad phone but you never know what will be released in the near future
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[S3]Why no love for the VilleC2?

Hey guys, this isn't just another thread complaining about how the S3 variant of the HOS is left behind, I just wanna get things straight.
So what's the big deal? It's a mid-range smartphone anyways, games run equally fine on the S3 as it does on the S4, UI doesn't lag at all like everyone says, battery life gets me thru the day. The only thing I didn't agreed on was the price.. they should at least cut the price on S3 variants..
I'm curious as to why is it so hard to port all these amazing ROMs the S4 users have been enjoying to our beloved S3 HOS.. I've been stuck at 4.0.3 & Sense 4.0 for months and now that the S4 got Jelly Bean not so long ago.. I mean, come on HTC! If you're selling two phones under the SAME name you should at least show support equally for both devices.. just sayin.
Bottom line: we, S3 users want to see more love from the developers.. pretty please?
Cheers.

The reason why development on the S3 is so slow is actually very simple, not too many developers have an S3 One S to develop for. The S4 version is more common on XDA (from what I've seen) so there will be more focus on that variant

Kamilr97 said:
The reason why development on the S3 is so slow is actually very simple, not too many developers have an S3 One S to develop for. The S4 version is more common on XDA (from what I've seen) so there will be more focus on that variant
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Yeah. I know it's not a simple thing porting ROMs from an S4 to an S3 due to different processor archs, but the latter is becoming more common too, I just expect we get a little support too.. maybe next year.. who knows.

Samsung’s Exynos 5 Octa kills Qualcomm’s Snapdragon 600

http://www.sammobile.com/2013/04/10/galaxy-s4s-latest-benchmark-confirms-samsungs-exynos-5-octa-kills-qualcomms-snapdragon-600/
Believable?

I am quite sure this link has been posted atleast 17 times.

In the end Snapdragon is the winner since Exynos wont be out for most of the world until the end of the year, by which point people will be waiting for the GS5.........

CLARiiON said:
I am quite sure this link has been posted atleast 17 times.
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It's getting ridiculous at this point. The entire Exynos vs snapdragon crap and the HTC Fanboys are over old. New and important information is one thing but my peepee is bigger than your peepee is stupid.

Yet in the UK we're being given the inferior Qualcomm S4 because the Exynos doesn't support 4G. Annoying since only one carrier has 4G and it's in very very few areas.

Quit your belly achin'! At least you get a superior GPU!

I will buy octa for sure!
Faster CPU 8 cores so you can modify them all by custom kernel + Samsung says that it saves power! + better GPU
but if it not available in my country so I have to use SD600

HMJ-q8 said:
I will buy octa for sure!
Faster CPU 8 cores so you can modify them all by custom kernel + Samsung says that itsaves power! + better GPU
but if it not available in my country so I have to use SD600
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It's actually looking like the enhanced Adreno 320 is better right now. Of course Exynos wins in CPU though. GPU is more important to me though, and the S600 CPU will also run anything right now fluently, Exynos is overkill IMO and good for bragging rights but in day to day use, not much else.

Carter0108 said:
Yet in the UK we're being given the inferior Qualcomm S4 because the Exynos doesn't support 4G. Annoying since only one carrier has 4G and it's in very very few areas.
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Surely you don't believe that marketing bull****. Samsung cannot enough make enough Exynos chips until Q2 but wanted to release earlier to stay competitive, it's that simple. I wouldn't be surprised if they phase out the Snapdragon's by Autumn.
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Ussy said:
Surely you don't believe that marketing bull****. Samsung cannot enough make enough Exynos chips until Q2 but wanted to release earlier to stay competitive, it's that simple. I wouldn't be surprised if they phase out the Snapdragon's by Autumn.
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I doubt it'll work that way. Don't forget that the Note III will be in production relatively soon and the S5 by this time next year (or sooner), so why would Samsung waste resources on producing more Exynos S4s when they can soon start offering the Note III and S5 with the Exynos processors in full production? Especially when 99% of the initial S4 owners / buyers won't notice or care about what's in the phone anyway as long as it works.

First world problems:
Do you guys think it's worth waiting for the note 3? Considering a better processor, battery life, bigger screen, and the S-Pen? (I'm pretty sure I won't use the S-Pen much, but we'll see..) Also rumors today of a possible "better quality" material..?
I believe it'll be $100 more than the S4..but are those features worth $100 more?
When would the Note 3 be released?
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I'm buying it unlocked and running it on T-Mobile.
Decisions Decisions

Nephilim-Giant said:
First world problems:
Do you guys think it's worth waiting for the note 3? Considering a better processor, battery life, bigger screen, and the S-Pen? (I'm pretty sure I won't use the S-Pen much, but we'll see..) Also rumors today of a possible "better quality" material..?
I believe it'll be $100 more than the S4..but are those features worth $100 more?
When would the Note 3 be released?
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I'm buying it unlocked and running it on T-Mobile.
Decisions Decisions
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If you wait for the next best thing to come out you will always be waiting. When the Note3 is released, something even better will be in the making and when that is released, something better than it will be on its way...

jeffs99 said:
http://www.sammobile.com/2013/04/10/galaxy-s4s-latest-benchmark-confirms-samsungs-exynos-5-octa-kills-qualcomms-snapdragon-600/
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THIS HAS BEEN POSTED MANY MANY TIMES IN THIS FORUM.
You're not a n00b, and you've been around here before. You know the rules. Search before posting. Period. No exceptions.

Please continue this in one of the existing threads. Please try and use the search feature before creating new threads.
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