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[Q] What should I choose? Archos 80 G9 or ASUS Transformer?

Hello guys,
I am planning to get an Android tablet somewhere in the fourth quarter of this year (Christmas most likely).
I wanna originally wait for ASUS Transformer with the 3G....but...just this morning I found a new tablet from Archos which called Archos 80 G9.
www.archos.com/products/gen9/index.html?country=gb&lang=en
If I look at the price, I tend to choose Archos but ...I wanna know what you guys think first before deciding....I know, I know.... it is still quite some time till Christmas but I am too excited (My pocket must wait till Christmas, that is the problem)...

aaa said:
Hello guys,
I am planning to get an Android tablet somewhere in the fourth quarter of this year (Christmas most likely).
I wanna originally wait for ASUS Transformer with the 3G....but...just this morning I found a new tablet from Archos which called Archos 80 G9.
www.archos.com/products/gen9/index.html?country=gb&lang=en
If I look at the price, I tend to choose Archos but ...I wanna know what you guys think first before deciding....I know, I know.... it is still quite some time till Christmas but I am too excited (My pocket must wait till Christmas, that is the problem)...
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Hey, I also just discovered this tablet and I have the same questions. The specs on this tablet sound too good to be true. And the price is ridiculous. I done some reading, and only main issue some people have is Archos record of durability. $280 is not a bad gamble if you have 1 year warranty.
My only other question is how much ram? I can't find that anywhere. If it's 1 gig, I think I'm sold.

Archos has historically used components that seem great on paper, but are sub par in quality. For example, they may claim to have an equivalent resolution screen, but chances are it is from a very cheap manufacturer, and performs at significantly lower levels (bad viewing angles, bad refresh rate, low brightness, etc). This "Equal in name, not performance" phenomenon seems to plague most of their products. It is not surprising that their component quality is lower given the price point.
However, it is 100% possible that this represents a complete shift from their previous trends. I recommend waiting for reviews from places like Gizmodo and This Is My Next before you pull the trigger either way.

@Animus_3.0 : Yes the RAM is 1 GB and here where I live, I usually get 2 years warranty for almost everything I bought, so I believe it will have the same 2 years warranty too.
@BananaPhone69 : That is what I am afraid of with such a price for such specs, bad quality product. I agree, it is still better to wait for the review.

BTW: If anyone has some experience using Archos products especially the previous tablets, please do share your experience...This 80 G9 could be my first Archos device ever.

aaa said:
@Animus_3.0 : Yes the RAM is 1 GB and here where I live, I usually get 2 years warranty for almost everything I bought, so I believe it will have the same 2 years warranty too.
@BananaPhone69 : That is what I am afraid of with such a price for such specs, bad quality product. I agree, it is still better to wait for the review.
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Thanks aaa and Banana. Just a matter of waiting for reviews and a chance to play with them in the stores. I want to see the display quality, the overall build and how responsive it is.
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Guys, some hands on from Slashgear.
http://www.slashgear.com/archos-80-g9-and-101-g9-tablets-hands-on-video-28161817/
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Been looking into these new archos tablets myself
From the story I read, some ship with 1gig ram some ship with half a gig, so i'd make sure you get one that has the gig
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The screen is made of plastic not ape glass, this could be an advantage since it is lighter and won't brake so easily but it could also be a disanvantage since it can be scratched easily.
Hmmm....according to the preview on slashgear, the UI is not so smooth and the apps crash very often...this could be a big down side, if those bugs can also be found after release.. I hope they can fix them.
About the different RAM versions, I will just have to take a better look before buying.... man the price is really tempting

Hm... I was almost sold on a Viewpad 10s for its great community support and tempting price of 249EUR inkl. docking station and then discovered the Archos 101 G9 having the following advantages over the Advent Vega/Viewpad/Mobii units:
- way better CPU (+0.5GHz, NEON)
- more RAM (+512MB)
- more vertical resolution (800 instead of 600px, I don't like widescreen at all but 800 is a big improvement for me over 600px)
- easy and affordable 3G upgrade which also serves as a 3G USB modem for laptops
- probably better build quality (according to comparative reviews of the 101 and the Viewpad 10s)
- better viewing angles (according to hands on previews on youtube)
- Honeycomb included, no need to void warranty with custom ROMs
- built-in stand, no docking station needed to carry around when on the way
The only I concern I have atm: how stable will the stock OS be and will there be improved custom ROMs...
Opinions?

Yes. I also want to know how is the OS stability and smoothness of Archos 80 G9..and also Archos tablets/products durability in general, because I have never had any Archos products until now.
I am hoping someone in this forum can say several words regarding the durability first, since the G9 is not yet available in the market and no one has really tested it.
so...I could really use your comment on the durability term, based on your previous Archos experiences...please

You'll find a G9 discussion with great infos here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1137524

Thank you for the info. I will check your link right away.

aaa said:
Hello guys,
I am planning to get an Android tablet somewhere in the fourth quarter of this year (Christmas most likely).
I wanna originally wait for ASUS Transformer with the 3G....but...just this morning I found a new tablet from Archos which called Archos 80 G9.
www.archos.com/products/gen9/index.html?country=gb&lang=en
If I look at the price, I tend to choose Archos but ...I wanna know what you guys think first before deciding....I know, I know.... it is still quite some time till Christmas but I am too excited (My pocket must wait till Christmas, that is the problem)...
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I've had the Archos 80 G9 for a week now and am loving it. Value for money it is excellent, the Honeycomb UI is sleek and responsive and I haven't really had any problems with it. Battery life is excellent.
I particularly like the size, it is great for two thumb typing when in portrait mode.
Here are some images of the Archos 80 G9 next to an iPad 2 to give you an idea of the size: http://www.todoleo.com/2011/10/archos-80-g9-with-apple-ipad-2.html
Feel free to ask any more questions.

Wait for the new tegra3 transformer prime instead

todoleo said:
I've had the Archos 80 G9 for a week now and am loving it. Value for money it is excellent, the Honeycomb UI is sleek and responsive and I haven't really had any problems with it. Battery life is excellent.
I particularly like the size, it is great for two thumb typing when in portrait mode.
Here are some images of the Archos 80 G9 next to an iPad 2 to give you an idea of the size: http://www.todoleo.com/2011/10/archos-80-g9-with-apple-ipad-2.html
Feel free to ask any more questions.
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Can you play downloaded 720p MKVs? My Asus transfer could not without re-encoding. I have a Nook Color and had an Asus Transformer. 7" was to small for an everyday tablet and 10" was too big to read in bed at night. Im thinking a 8 or 9" might be better.

I bought a 80G9 Turbo with HDD, and I think I love it.
I put a lot of books and videos on the HDD. I always take it with me when I go on holidays.
It's not the last product, but, I think, a very very good product.

Also you can attach a Harddisk or an external Wired Network adapter to the 3G usb-port on the rear. I used this during trade shows.

New 7" Tablet from china

First Tablet witch ICS
With new processor and GPU. and its cost only $99
http://www.ainovo.com/

The Novo7 operates on a 1GHz MIPS-based XBurst CPU and comes incorporated with the Vivante GC860 GPU that is responsible for offering 3D graphics. Boasting of Google CTS certification, it is equipped with a 7-inch capacitive multi-touchscreen display. This slab is capable of lending support to connectivity options such as Wi-Fi 802.11b/g/n, USB 2.0, HDMI 1.3 and microSD.
Not bad for 99 bucks, might buy one

Mhh i might give it a try. Decent h/w for a nice price... <3

I am interested as well, but I may wait to see what kind of development it gets before buying....

its all sold out when i tried to buy one.
I can't wait to get my hands on one. I would buy more for my relatives if it work w/o any lag & i hope some devs get their hands on some too.

Guess I was right on time. Ordered one 2 days back. Said it will take 2 weeks before they'll start shipping. They hope it will reach me before christmas.
Screen sucks from what I've read (crappy resolution) but if I look at novo7 reviews with gingerbread on it on youtube, device looks fast and everything works.
I'll only be using it on the go and while i'm in the library studying so its perfect for me, webbrowsing and games.
And it has a microsd card slot. Perfect when I take pictures with my camera and put it in if I'm somewhere even though the resolution is not that great.

My employer is selling $99 tablets with Gingerbread, and possibly 800Mhz processors...the only saving grace is their capacitive screens.
Next up, $200 outdated resistive-screened Coby, 800Mhz, no GPU. Better? $250 Coby, 1Ghz no GPU and a VGA webcam...rejoice.
This tablet is like a bolt out of the blue for awesomeness. Thank you XDA.
Sent from my Wildfire S

Lets hope lots of devs will be able to get their hands on them. I think I'm going to wait until the 8" or 10" to come out before getting one. But, I'll probably buy my two nieces one each so they won't be fighting over one.

I finally received mine today Time to unpack it

How to i get support if i buy this tablet. will i get support from india?

I'd like to know more about this tablet. For all of you who have it: Is it worth the buy?

Ok don't be angry . I'm gonna sell it, I just had a quick look at the device to see if everything worked before selling it.
I looked round the internet and found out that the tablet is basically a regular Novo 7 tablet only with android 4.0 installed.
Then I read that the sourcecode for the regular gingerbread Novo 7 tablets has been released and they're expecting a 4.0 update.
Having paid 120 euros incl. shipping for the device and seeing that I can get the regular gingerbread Novo 7 for way cheaper, I decided to sell the device and will wait and see what the future brings.
Untill then guess its back using my HP Touchpad.
What I noticed in the 1 minute I used the device. Fast opening video and photos. Screen resolution is indeed low but actually looks better then I expected. I could see details in the photos and they looked good.
The Device itself felt great. Perfect size, not heavy. The white back looks awesome.
It actually doesnt look/feel cheap at all.
I guess overall the device is really awesome, only downside is the screen but if you can live with a normal screen instead of a supersharp screen then you should definitely get one.

So, my new Novo 7 Paladin arrived at my door about an hour ago. I live in Shanghai, so I ordered online yesterday & it arrived today.
Price was 499 RMB (or around $79 USD ), and seller paid shipping charges. Pretty amazing deal. Many sellers at that price online in China...check this link here...
I've spent maybe 30 minutes or so playing with it...
- It came with Android 4.0 installed as advertised. This is my first exposure to the new OS, so I'm still getting used to it.
- The device came with a bunch of Chinese apps & several games preloaded (a bunch of which I've already uninstalled).
- Wi-Fi fired right up & was online in moments...no problems
- It seems like a simple, solid device...not flashy by any means, but I'm not sure what more you could expect at this price point.
- I haven't tried any movies or music yet...I'm charging it up right now & will play with it more later.

cheap 7" android tablets

uk buyer looking for an inexpensive entry to the world of tablets.
am looking for a device primarily for web browsing, media with dlna, & ebooks. i've no need for gps, bluetooth or 3g connectivity.
so, thinking i would just wait for the kindle fire to get a uk release & then hack a fresh rom into it, i'm seeing many alternatives appearing in the same sub £200 bracket & welcome suggestions for essentially a solid wi-fi enabled tablet with a half decent resolution & the technical capability & support to take a custom rom.
been looking at the TABTRONICS - A10 M009SC http://tinyurl.com/83mfk62 & NATPC M009S http://tinyurl.com/7v9hgl7 which both appear no-thrills solutions but are they capable?
i see xoom's are down in price but i really cannot justify a big spend on a device i'm certainly wanting but can't say i need. hehe, don't we all say that
any suggestions welcomed

Hi, I played with a NATPC M009S today, my housemate just bought one as a gift. I was impressed for the price that is for sure, the screen and interface were quite fast, although not perfect. The browser seemed fine, although I didn't try any flash videos. Angry birds played smoothly, but fruit ninja felt a little slow.
As far as custom ROMs go I wouldnt hold your breath, I cant find any other mention of the device on here besides this post. Same goes for any kind of support in general really. The box it came in had a logo of a company called GPAD, more info might be available searching for that.
The device has:
Android 2.3.4
Power socket from a plug
mini B usb port (can charge over this too)
"TF" card slot, not worked this out yet, presumably SD will work
Mini HDMI out (not tested)
Any other questions feel free to ask me

Nookcolor, you can install cm7 on it, for $200 its one hell of a tablet, there's a lot of support here for the nookcolor, check out some you tube vedios or look at cyanogenmod website
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Any progress on this?
I am looking for a £100 ish tablet.
Based in UK so Nook colour doesnt seem to be available here.
Looking for one that can be rooted and upgraded with ROMS etc.
Any advice?

There's this touchBox thing I've had... Can't post a link though. Still trying to get 10 posts in order to post updates about ICS on Galaxy. :/

I cant seem to find anything on this touchbox?
Any other info you can give?

-Sie- said:
Any progress on this?
I am looking for a £100 ish tablet.
Based in UK so Nook colour doesnt seem to be available here.
Looking for one that can be rooted and upgraded with ROMS etc.
Any advice?
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Buy a Nook color brandnew from ebay, root it and install cm7 or ics
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i suggest you to look for Archos tablets, for me very good tablets and far away to be too expensive take a look if you mind

When you buy a Tablet.
Don’t buy the cheapest but the best

If you are willing to wait for a UK release of the Kindle Fire, then I would do it. First of all, stock isn't bad, but there is a fully functioning build of CM7 for the Fire, as well as MIUI, and best of all, there is a build of ICS, that only has a few issues left to be resolved before it is fully functioning, and it is good enough that most people use it daily now, including my self. Plus, if you just want to stay on the stock interface, it is very easy to root and install the market, to open it up a little. Also, TWRP2 is a an awesome recovery, and works really well. This is a great device for the money, and the development/support for it is fantastic.

Take a look on this ubislate.com. ubislate 7+ model. I bet its worlds cheapest. 3200 inr. Which is 65 us $!!!!
700mhz, usb storage/host. Resistive 7 inch, 2.3.7 ,2gb internal, wifi,bluetooth.. no 3g( well u can plugin a 3g modem/usb 3g stick. Made in india. Heavy rating. Only prebooking for march is available. Stocks went out like wind. Well u cant get an ipod nano for that price. Can u???
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zyad said:
When you buy a Tablet.
Don’t buy the cheapest but the best
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The best advice one can give.
If you buy a small, underpowered tablet, you will quickly realize the shortcomings and will end up spending more on a better tablet.
This rule applies to just about anything from pocket knives to laptops.

I have just purchased the "NATPC M009S 8GB Capacitive Android 4.0 (ICE CREAM SANDWICH) , 7" , 1.6 GHz Super Slim Android Tablet PC with Responsive Capacitive Screen" for £110 on Amazon. Put that title in.
The device is amazing for the money. Full custom ROM set (Seby) and the amazon discussion has lots of help.
HDMI out works perfectly and the screen is super smooth.

I got a nook color and a nook simple touch at USD149.00.
BTW, there are tablets sold at amazing low price in China. Of course you can not hope any support from the seller. That's why I didn't choose one like that....

Eagle Eye Tablet
There is a new release of cheap tablet here in UAE from a Canadian company (Eagle Eye). The tablet was of course made in China. Specs as follows: 7" LCD capacitive multi-touch screen, 1.2Ghz Single Core processor based on Cortex A8 with Mali 400 GPU, 512MB RAM, 8GB built in flash memory (expandable up to 32GB microSD card), 1.3MP webcam for video chat like Skype (front only), Android 4.0.3 ICS OS, HDMI out, mini USB with OTG cable included (PC connection and charging also), USB 2.0 host, Wifi 802.11 b/g/n, some pre-installed apps like Google Play store (full access), Super HD player that plays most video format up to 2160p, file manager, browser (HTML and full flash support), music player (I changed mine with PowerAmp and working perfectly) but no bluetooth (external 3G not mentioned if supported and I haven't tested also). The price is only 399AED or US$108.

Bodegroes said:
I have just purchased the "NATPC M009S 8GB Capacitive Android 4.0 (ICE CREAM SANDWICH) , 7" , 1.6 GHz Super Slim Android Tablet PC with Responsive Capacitive Screen" for £110 on Amazon. Put that title in.
The device is amazing for the money. Full custom ROM set (Seby) and the amazon discussion has lots of help.
HDMI out works perfectly and the screen is super smooth.
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There are quite a lot of reviews on the M009s (Tabtronics, Natpc, player momo9) on amazon. Seems like quite a value purhcase.

mystvearn said:
There are quite a lot of reviews on the M009s (Tabtronics, Natpc, player momo9) on amazon. Seems like quite a value purhcase.
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Yes it does seem a good buy given the reviews. Latest has double the memory at 16gb for £5 more, hence me buying one!
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I think its best to wait slightly. SmartQ T15, T19, T20 are the first dual core china tablets. Its getting favorable attention at Slatedroid

I bought a 16GB NATPC M009S for £70 on Amazon. It was "Used - Good Condition" from the seller of the new tablets. I got her assurance that this would mean just minor scratches, so I thought "What the hell, worth a go!". I must say that I'm very impressed. After I ordered it I thought "What have I done!", but it's brilliant (when I can get my hands on it - the kids like it a bit too much).
It's running ICS 4.0.3, came pre-rooted (which I wasn't expecting) and handles most things well. The HDMI out works well and the videos run smoothly. It's got expandable micro SD memory, 1GB RAM and on the whole works smoothly. Not as smooth as a much more expensive branded tablet, I dare say, but then this was a sacrifice I was willing to make rather than have no tablet at all.
The internet seems a bit slow, I use Dolphin by choice, but I've heard that there's a tablet version of Dolphin, so will see if that improves things!
It was such a positive purchase that a couple of weeks after I purchased a similar but slightly lower spec tablet (8GB 512MB RAM and no HDMI out - also Used Good Condition from the same seller) for the staggeringly low price of £30. I can't believe it, in some ways it is better than the original one (running ICS 4.0.4).
I used to think that you had no chance of getting anything even half decent in the tablet market for that kind of money, but here I am with two perfectly good devices for £100 for the pair!
I'm interested to see what ROM's are available. If I'm right it's anything that is for a MID tablet?
Anyway, happy hunting!
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[Q] Android phone up to 200$ - what to buy? Are chineese clones woth the money?

Hello,
I'm looking for Android phone up to 200$.
Not sure if should I buy something kinda outdated (like htc desire with old android) or rather fairly new construct like chineese clones (something like hdc i9300 or something else on mtk6575/6577). with recent android version Those chineese phones have quite good specs, but it's a lot of mess with them (sometime they claim to have ips screen, sometime the vary same model say it's amoled, even single alieexpress auction in one place is stated that it has ips screen while few lines lower says its amoled).
Very hard for me too choose. Are there any reputable reviews of those clones? Lots of reviews look more like commercials saying only good thigs about phone.
What would you choose?
I just want pretty standard things like :
responsive UI (hate lagging)
wifi (really working not just 1m away router)
good screen usable in sunlight (perfect would be ips) between 3.5 and 4.8 inches.
web browsing option
capable of runinng few apps at the time (browser, calendard etc) - don't care about games, although it would be nice to view movies.
and pretty decent battery (so like 2days at least of working)
GPS
decent camera which could replace separate compact camera.
Phone must be new.
Is anyone really happy with clone bought from china? Not only after buying but also after few months of use?
Could you point sellers you've been satisfied with? I know there are ratings with aliexpress, but many users buying barely know what they are buying, and even if phone is lot worse then specs say they give good feedback. E.g. Few months ago on polish auction site (like ebay) there was a guy selling fake pendrives (256mb capacity while claiming to have 32gb - altered somehow to show fake capacity) and most users left him positive feedback.
thanks in advance

Please use the sticky at the top of this section for all phone decision questions. Thank you. Thread closed.

[Q] Need new phone

Mainly for gaming but i got very low budget (100 usd)
The fact is i don't play game like MC4,asphalt 8 or generic everyday shooter that you can play on pc
But something like Cytus,Deemo,Osu!,Visual novel,ppsspp and etc
Mainly android exclusive games that aren't generic games
Sooooo any advice?

skyhot004 said:
Mainly for gaming but i got very low budget (150 usd)
The fact is i don't play game like MC4,asphalt 8 or generic everyday shooter that you can play on pc (Well from the look 150$ china JXD 7800B can play it anyway)
But something like Cytus,Deemo,Osu!,Visual novel,ppsspp and etc
Now then you will think PPSSPP?? cheap phone can't handle that!
Too bad psp game that i'm going to play is mostly visual novel too
Mainly android exclusive games that aren't generic games
I uninstalled TN-V8 so yeah interest of getting another vita
I'm thinking of phone,tablet,phablet interest
Oh right
Must support 3G,Calling too wouldn't want to carry 3 devices in my pocket (Vita, 9 usd phone,150 usd phablet wifi only)
Sooooo any advice? or i'm asking at wrong place? (I have no idea where to ask about these)
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There isn't a Phablet for 150 USD or cheaper although you could get chinese ones, But they suck overtime.
Anyway a Phablet is a Phone with ~6 Inch screen, To get it from a trusted brand (Samsung,HTC) You will need atleast 600 USD to get it.
I Doubt anyone could give you some cheap phablets except Chinese ones which are very bad...

Bumping this thread cause i don't want to create a new one
Well i guess i'm getting a smart phone interest then
I'm suck when it's come to choosing mobile spec but here what other forum recommend me so far (with 100 usd budget)
I-MOBILE i-STYLE 2.3
Lenovo A316i
Asus Zenfone 4
What do you guy think about these?

Please go here...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1620179