(Discussion)Music effects on Ics - Motorola Atrix 2

Flashed dspmanager and the audio quality has improved!.Can other audio enhancers like beats etc work the same way.
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NatsuIgneel said:
Flashed dspmanager and the audio quality has improved!.Can other audio enhancers like beats etc work the same way.
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This all depends on what you consider to be 'quality'. My own opinion, is that Beats Audio completely destroys musical integrity, mostly because all I've found it to accomplish is basically boost the bass and slightly adjust the other frequencies to compensate (poorly, I might add). It was, after all, the brainchild of a rap musician -go figure. However, you're right about one thing, and that is with ICS the musical enhancements have improved, much to go along with everything else.
Also, as a reminder, since this isn't a [Q] question this post belongs in our General Section. I'll see about having the moderators move this for you...

IMO you're better off getting better headphones, audio quality is already very high. If there's a limiting factor its most likely the files being played back in terms of bitrate etc.

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Enable SRS effects for entire system

Would it be possible to enable SRS effects for anything using the audio? The loud speaker could benefit from this when im using YouTube or Pandora. would it be too resource intensive?
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When I see 'SRS' all I can think of is Supplemental Restraint System.
As for SRS audio, I'm guessing you're talking about Sound Retrieval System, which creates immersive '3D' audio experience on stereo speaker systems. I'm not at all confident that it would have any measurable benefit since the TB speaker(s?) is/are too small and closely spaced for an SRS processor to be effective.
If you use the stock HTC music player there is an option for sound enhancement and then it lists srs...and it honestly does improve the audio from being so flat
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Ratzinc said:
If you use the stock HTC music player there is an option for sound enhancement and then it lists srs...and it honestly does improve the audio from being so flat
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sweet i did not know this. now i do. now my music sounds a lot better. thanks
im also a bit bummed that the whole entire piece is not a speaker like it looks. its just a small part at the end of the line speaker looking thing thats the actual speaker

Beats Audio and xLoud mod

Just a heads up to those who may not know, there is a Beats Audio/xLoud mod/port on the board and it works on the Atrix 2. Beats adds a deeper, cleaner bass and cleans up the mids/highs too. xLoud is a Sony Ericsson thing, it basically boosts the overall volume of ur audio. I just flashed this mod to my phone and holy ****, huge difference! I had to turn all my volumes down media/ringer/alarms. My good cans are packed (moving this weekend) so no testing with them yet but after hearing the difference I just heard with only the phone speaker I'm expecting to be very happy.
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Here's the link to the thread for it....make sure to d/l and flash the 3.2.12 one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525226
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where is the xloud .zip file?
Whoa - déjà vu!
xLoud is included in the zip.
Audio volume really is increased overall (I too had to turn everything down) and the beats makes the bass sound sweet!
cogeary said:
Whoa - déjà vu!
xLoud is included in the zip.
Audio volume really is increased overall (I too had to turn everything down) and the beats makes the bass sound sweet!
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Yep, very noticeable difference. This one is much better than the first one w/o xLoud.
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Maybe its just me, but I can't seem to find a difference in quality using the car dock. Audio goes out the car docks 3.5mm jack to my Volvo s60r's stereo. I was hoping for some more volume.
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So will this work with pandora ??? I love pandora but the sound quality is shaky at times...
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I flashed the first beats mod without xloud, can I flash the xloud mod over it?
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Yes you can, it will just overwrite the one you just installed.
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Yes you can, it will just overwrite the one you just installed.
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It failed to flash when I tried it, idk what I did wrong.
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Tried this tweak last week and it's great. My highs have come alive and it sounds much cleaner.
So how does the mod affect the Motorola stock equalizer?
I'm assuming the beats audio is only effective in the My Music app? So do I have to disable the "Effects" in settings to hear the Beats Audio? Or should I switch that to custom?
This work well seems crisper...... Did notice if the bass is overpowering the mids and lows go to sound settings and un-tick enable audio effects..... For me with headphones will set effects enabled effects profile custom surround ambient eq bass punch WOW!!!!!
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I'm assuming the beats audio is only effective in the My Music app? So do I have to disable the "Effects" in settings to hear the Beats Audio? Or should I switch that to custom?
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Nope, it's not only in My Music, I use PowerAmp and it works perfectly
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Nope, it's not only in My Music, I use PowerAmp and it works perfectly
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wait, so, it works by default, and all the additional effects are additional? but my system sounds are not any louder than they were before, which other people seem to be reporting
iarejohnsmith said:
wait, so, it works by default, and all the additional effects are additional? but my system sounds are not any louder than they were before, which other people seem to be reporting
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Mine are....I have had to turn all my volumes down since installing this mod. I haven't done any critical listening since I don't use my phone like that anyway, I was just hoping for louder system sounds and that's exactly what I got. The Beats is just an added bonus.
Ok are we supposed to download the one that says older zip files test301.zip or the allandroidzip.zip that looks to be the newest?
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Awesome
Works great thanks! Sounds a lot better ican tell right away
So im sorry but I did this. And to be honest it didn't sound better at all. In fact I think it was worse everyone keeps saying stuff like wow... what a difference. But I hear worse clarity, more bass but... im a musician and so sounds I hear more clearly maybe than most but Idk.... anyways like I said im not trying to be rude.
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So im sorry but I did this. And to be honest it didn't sound better at all. In fact I think it was worse everyone keeps saying stuff like wow... what a difference. But I hear worse clarity, more bass but... im a musician and so sounds I hear more clearly maybe than most but Idk.... anyways like I said im not trying to be rude.
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Yea these are some of the same complaints I've heard about the actual beats headphones because they're made really for more hip hop songs and not a wide range of music the highs are where those headphones usually suffer IMO
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Beats vs Voodoo Sound?

In general, wouldn't Voodoo Sound tweaks result in better sound quality than the Beats Audio tweaks? ...considering that the Voodoo sound is specific to our hardware...
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In general, wouldn't Voodoo Sound tweaks result in better sound quality than the Beats Audio tweaks? ...considering that the Voodoo sound is specific to our hardware...
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Completely different. Read around Page 6 of the Beats thread. "convo" between Dman and Dan.
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I would much rather be able to customize the sound with voodoo control plus the actual changes voodoo makes is way more than just an equalizer overlay. IMO the Beats mod is great if you don't have voodoo. But ****, if you've got Supercurio's awesome work available to you, fkin use it!
Use Both!
Using them Both actualy. And the sound is awesome!!! but one thing i noticed is that after flashing the Beats Mod i have to slide the Dynamic Range slider to 20% and select Sub-Bass to get awesome results. With the Voodoo i get extreme bass and with the beats mod i get clearer sound. Definitively a great combo!!
One thing, if you dont like the sound, its better to have a Nandroid backup because the mod replaces and adds a lot of lib files that is hard to revert(at least for me)
My choice... disable voodoo... beats is better...
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I've been pretty happy using the "Rock" EQ preset in the Galaxy Music Player + Voodoo sub-bass with 100% dynamic range. Sounds nice through my Ultrasone HFI-780 cans.
I'm guessing Beats would give similar results to this in other apps like Pandora. (?)
As discussed in the other thread, they can't really be compared that well, because they do different things. Voodoo tweaks the DAC (hardware) settings for optimal and clean sound output. It also allows you to use the hardware EQ for bass boost, and coupled with something like DSP Manager allows you to tweak the hardware EQ that can adjust sound without compressing, modifying it, or using CPU cycles to do the EQ work.
Beats is a software EQ that does a few tricks to make you think you perceive the music as sounding better. It uses CPU cycles and therefore battery power to apply the EQ, and software EQ will never have the quality that a hardware EQ has.
You very definitely could use both if you wanted to, though any audiophile would (aside from warning you a bout Beats) frown at having your audio modified multiple times before being output, especially through a software EQ, and really any EQ at all.
Now, that said, it really comes down to what sounds best to you. If you don't have a pair of headphones that can even handle high quality music, you probably wouldn't notice the difference that much if at all. Perhaps you don't care about pure clean sound quality and think Beats sounds better to you. Try them both out and see what sounds best to you. There's no better or worse when it comes down to opinion, but you will get cleaner sound with Voodoo and no Beats.
tried beats hated it got voodoo it kicks ass it gave me atleast twice the volume pair that with player pro with the dsp add on with a 10 band eq and ul rock
Voodoo it you won't be sorry.
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Has anyone actually scientifically tested this particular MOD and verified it isn't simply placebo?
I am personally more inclined to trust Supercurio's opinion and take on this.
Interesting stuff..
dman3285 said:
My choice... disable voodoo... beats is better...
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My ROM has beats in it and I agree
My Sensed up infuse sent this
PharmNerd said:
In general, wouldn't Voodoo Sound tweaks result in better sound quality than the Beats Audio tweaks? ...considering that the Voodoo sound is specific to our hardware...
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they are two completely different things. no reason not to run both.
voodoo is the driver for the headphone amp. and can increase recording and playback bitrates and allows you to set recording sensitivity and gives access to the analog volume setting so you havw more than 15 volume steps on the headphones.
beats is some libs that enhance the sound. it's either an equalizer or reverb type room emulation or something, I haven't tried it yet. it isn't nessesarily bad that its designed for another phone but id rather use it with cm7 if it works since Samsung has some of their own filtering and it would be best to not pervert the sound too many times...
Everything I've heard indicates that Beats on Samsung devices is nothing but placebo effect. Even if working, at best it's a ****ty audio EQ preset - just use another player that has an audio equalizer and tune it to your liking.
Voodoo Sound actually has driver optimizations to the DAC to improve jitter and SNR, among other things.
I basically avoid any firmware that has Beatsoff Audio included like the plague. It is a sign that the firmware developer is throwing random **** in that hasn't been tested.
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Everything I've heard indicates that Beats on Samsung devices is nothing but placebo effect. Even if working, at best it's a ****ty audio EQ preset - just use another player that has an audio equalizer and tune it to your liking.
Voodoo Sound actually has driver optimizations to the DAC to improve jitter and SNR, among other things.
I basically avoid any firmware that has Beatsoff Audio included like the plague. It is a sign that the firmware developer is throwing random **** in that hasn't been tested.
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+1
Beatsoff (lulz) is hardly anything more than a marketing gimmick.
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don't forget voodoo also has compression profiles for video recording . Let's you record in loud environment with out that horrible distortion.
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I prefer voodoo because when I flash beats on my infuse, I can't hear the difference clearly. Voodoo is much better for me because I'm a basshead ^^
however when I flash beats on my friend's xperia x10, the sound is better (not as much as voodoo)
I'm biased on this topic as my ROM has Beats integrated into it and I've never used Voodoo sound.
But I say, to each their own Everyone will always have a difference in opinion and let's all just be thankful we actually have options instead of just one product to use!
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Just installed beats... and even with plugged up ears (im sick) the sound was great! I usually think like entropy, do not flash unless intended for device. But, I was suprised how well this worked. Thanks.

Better Audio?

I know that this topic has been discussed before. I have tried the voodoo app and i have bought it. It just seems to make the sound even worse. I believe the culprit is dsp manager. So here Is what happens, I usually keep my volume 2-3 notches below the highest volume. I am using the acoustic preset on dsp manager with the bass slightly higher. If I go 2-3 notches above my normal volume, the sound gets really crackely and choppy. I tried the same song, but with the same preset but with even more bass on my sansa and it sounded crystal clear and really powerful even at higher volumes. Can someone suggest a fix. I am running HFP 2.1 and Faux's kernel.
Edit: I am also running beats audio from like march. And I'm using the google play music app
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Try to freeze Dsp and install either EQ or Volume+, then give it a shot. As far as I'm concerned G2X doesn't have the necessary libraries for beat audio to work.
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Alright ill give that a try
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DupleX01 said:
Try to freeze Dsp and install either EQ or Volume+, then give it a shot. As far as I'm concerned G2X doesn't have the necessary libraries for beat audio to work.
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Beats doesn't work and when you place the files where they go it breaks poweramp and dsp
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The first thing you need to do is remove the beats audio as it does nothing for the sound. Voodoo sound is much better as long as you have a kernel that has it built in. PowerAMP is one of the best equaliser apps out there for android but the overall sound quality coming from the G2x is not that good and will never be that good without better hardware.
The first thing you need to do is remove the beats audio as it does nothing for the sound. Voodoo sound is much better as long as you have a kernel that has it built in. PowerAMP is one of the best equaliser apps out there for android but the overall sound quality coming from the G2x is not that good and will never be that good without better hardware.
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I agree to disagree. Yes, get rid of beats. It didnt anything when I used it. Ditch google music its crap (intended for those of us who enjoy music? I think not.) I use PlayerPro (paid) with treble/bass booster preset with the bass knob almost all the way up. No matter how loud I make it, it kicks ass.
I'm also running RG2x MIUI with Faux kernel. Cleanest, smoothest, and all around best MIUI. Sorry Stormageddon. I used yours and my phone kept freezing. Not your fault, I know this. My phone just doesnt seem to like your roms. Or MIUI.us or Singh-MIUI's either for that matter. RG2x is the only one I can get to run with FC'ing a FC.
I use Winamp pro in conjunction with DSP manager and get GREAT sound (especially from FLAC ) I disable the EQ in DSP manager, Compression - Slight, Bass Boost - Slight, and depending on what I am listening to I will adjust Virtual Room. Everything else in DSP manager OFF. Then, in Winamp I use the Awesome 10 band EQ to adjust the sound to my liking.
I've been using winamp lately, but it still cannot drive my headphones as well as my sansa. Probably just the ****ty audio hardware from LG.
Also how do I get rid of beats audio?
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zoppp said:
I've been using winamp lately, but it still cannot drive my headphones as well as my sansa. Probably just the ****ty audio hardware from LG.
Also how do I get rid of beats audio?
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I know not of this ****ty audio you speak of. I consider myself an audiophile (500 gigs of FLAC and counting, high end Polk Audio home theater sound) and honestly, I am quite impressed with the audio quality from my phone. I am guessing that something is not quite right with your setup, or maybe the quality of what you are listening to on your phone isn't up to par.
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I know not of this ****ty audio you speak of. I consider myself an audiophile (500 gigs of FLAC and counting, high end Polk Audio home theater sound) and honestly, I am quite impressed with the audio quality from my phone. I am guessing that something is not quite right with your setup, or maybe the quality of what you are listening to on your phone isn't up to par.
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I don't know but my SanDisk Sansa is able to put out alot more power. The bass is alot more powerful on it too.
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Winamp for android is **** anyway. What u need is poweramp with a custom equal so it puts ur headphones to the limit before making it sound like ****. That and Volume++. I promise you will see a difference
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Try n7player....pretty good. You have to pay but I think u have a 7 day trial first, then u have to buy afterwards.
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zoppp said:
I don't know but my SanDisk Sansa is able to put out alot more power. The bass is alot more powerful on it too.
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if you are on HFP 2.1 and Faux's kernel did you try the "DSP Manager' settings?
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I know not of this ****ty audio you speak of. I consider myself an audiophile (500 gigs of FLAC and counting, high end Polk Audio home theater sound) and honestly, I am quite impressed with the audio quality from my phone. I am guessing that something is not quite right with your setup, or maybe the quality of what you are listening to on your phone isn't up to par.
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The actual hardware that is in the LG G2x is the same Wolfson DAC that is in the iPod touches and the iPhones. That DAC is really not that good especially for an audiophile. I never use my phone for music, and yes I only listen to FLAC or better and have a complete Sennheiser setup. I have tried making the audio better with an amp but even that just made the quality barely noticeably better. The quality is not that good and will never be that good.
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The actual hardware that is in the LG G2x is the same Wolfson DAC that is in the iPod touches and the iPhones. That DAC is really not that good especially for an audiophile. I never use my phone for music, and yes I only listen to FLAC or better and have a complete Sennheiser setup. I have tried making the audio better with an amp but even that just made the quality barely noticeably better. The quality is not that good and will never be that good.
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Realistically can you expect more than what it is from a phone for this price?
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Kind of sad that my $50 SanDisk Sansa performs better than this expensive phone.
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A2DP ftw
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Kind of sad that my $50 SanDisk Sansa performs better than this expensive phone.
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With voodoo sound and poweramp there's no way.. with that combo it sounds better than My iPod touch
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Yes way. My sansa can send bass that is skullcrushing (Sony xb-500 headphones). My phone can barely drive my headphones. If I set it to the loudest setting the sound is no where close even with poweramp.
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Motorola Atrix 2 (Lithium rom) with beats audio.

Hey guys, resently i have been testing some roms like,supercharged v6,Sonya and lithium.
I found that the lithium one its the best of them three (in my opinion) because of it's battery life and great stability.
If you want a great rom to put inside your atrix 2 i recommend Lithium with the beats audio drivers mod found on this forum.
Beats Audio:
It's in his develoment state but with this mod flashed in our Rom' we can get awesome results for listening to music.
Beats Audio its a flashable zip file that can be flashed with cwm.
You can find allthis files mentioned above in this forum:
1.Lithium rom can be found in develoment secion in Motorola Atrix 2 forums.
2.Beats Audio can be found by typing in the search bar Beats Audio.
All credits to its current developers.
HOPE ILL HELP ALL THOSE MUSIC LOVERS OUT THERE..
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did you try the motorola standard effects? works damn well for me...
i dont think its that much(if at all) better to justify the bloat
souljaboy said:
did you try the motorola standard effects? works damn well for me...
i dont think its that much(if at all) better to justify the bloat
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I have been testing it for i while now, yes i have tried the standard effects for now (my opinion is) that the bass effect in its standard Bass sound effect makes the playing music to much noisy (depending of what type of music) but in all it's very good.
I agree that Beats Audio does a pretty good job in destroying music quality. It's more a novelty, than an improvement to sound. Just my two cents worth... but Lithium is an awesome rom. Definitely one of my favorites!
Yes' beats audio is an alternative to those that like to listen to music in a loud state' in other ways.
Yes i agree with you that lithium is a great rom and one of ny favorites too. Glad to hear that.
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Yes' beats audio is an alternative to those that like to listen to music in a loud state' in other ways.
Yes i agree with you that lithium is a great rom and one of ny favorites too. Glad to hear that.
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Lithium comes with the beats mod and Xloud baked in it
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