Here's the article from android central needless to say I'm [email protected] speechless.....
www.androidcentral.com/jelly-bean-droid-razr-m-leaks-out
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Wow that is ridiculous. And to add insult to injury every S3 on every other carrier has gotten a leak so its not like its because its an S3. Goose fra ba, goose fra ba.
Verizon and Samsung just don't play nice just look at the gnex for example.
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microdot said:
Wow that is ridiculous. And to add insult to injury every S3 on every other carrier has gotten a leak so its not like its because its an S3. Goose fra ba, goose fra ba.
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This is one of the reasons why we have AOSP based roms. We become less dependent on manufacturer/carrier updates.
I ask you all, who has a more vested interest in getting the i535 working the best it can on the latest and greatest? The manufacturer / carrier that already took your money and can't directly make any more profit from giving you an upgrade or the many people who own the i535, use it every day, and have the development skills to make it rock (more)? I say it's the people.
CM10 is working excellently now. I recommend M2.
To the manufacturers. Give us the hardware. Open your radio code. We'll do the rest.
To the carriers. You are not phone companies anymore. You are simply Internet Service Providers. Minutes, texts, and data are all the same thing...data (especially when VoLTE is launched).
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mybook4 said:
This is one of the reasons why we have AOSP based roms. We become less dependent on manufacturer/carrier updates.
I ask you all, who has a more vested interest in getting the i535 working the best it can on the latest and greatest? The manufacturer / carrier that already took your money and can't directly make any more profit from giving you an upgrade or the many people who own the i535, use it every day, and have the development skills to make it rock (more)? I say it's the people.
CM10 is working excellently now. I recommend M2.
To the manufacturers. Give us the hardware. Open your radio code. We'll do the rest.
To the carriers. You are not phone companies anymore. You are simply Internet Service Providers. Minutes, texts, and data are all the same thing...data (especially when VoLTE is launched).
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Yea, but there are still multiple things that are broken on AOSP ROMs because we don't have JB code for our phone out there to port into them. Camera is half functional, many issues with bluetooth, the ever present flicker. And those are the ones I can think of off the top of my head. AOSP is damn good, don't get me wrong. I run CM10 for a daily driver and venture out into the other flavors every now and then. But it isn't near perfect yet either.
VZW has JB for the S3. If and when it leaks who knows. (My opinion of course).
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Yea, but there are still multiple things that are broken on AOSP ROMs because we don't have JB code for our phone out there to port into them. Camera is half functional, many issues with bluetooth, the ever present flicker. And those are the ones I can think of off the top of my head. AOSP is damn good, don't get me wrong. I run CM10 for a daily driver and venture out into the other flavors every now and then. But it isn't near perfect yet either.
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The flicker is fixed and aosp camera is 90% compared to touchwiz.
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The flicker is fixed and aosp camera is 90% compared to touchwiz.
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What have you been running? I'm on CM10 M2 and I've never fully lost the flicker. That's updating each nightly until the M2. It comes and goes. Now with that, I do run the leankernel, update each time it does. That might be the cause of my flicker, dunno.
And the camera is severely lacking compared to TW. Video recording might as well get thrown out the window unless you're doing a silent film or have REALLY loud people that you're recording. Can't save to the extSD without the MOD that doesn't have half the resolutions working and force closes on different things. All the face recog and little adjustments here and there don't exist in the AOSP camera.
I was reading that as well and was like wow.
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What have you been running? I'm on CM10 M2 and I've never fully lost the flicker. That's updating each nightly until the M2. It comes and goes. Now with that, I do run the leankernel, update each time it does. That might be the cause of my flicker, dunno.
And the camera is severely lacking compared to TW. Video recording might as well get thrown out the window unless you're doing a silent film or have REALLY loud people that you're recording. Can't save to the extSD without the MOD that doesn't have half the resolutions working and force closes on different things. All the face recog and little adjustments here and there don't exist in the AOSP camera.
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No flicker on pa 2.2 or eclipse 2.1...the aosp camera has more resolutions than the stock cm camera...no force closes for me. I dont need face detection or all the little adjustments, but yes the touchwiz camera is better
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No flicker on pa 2.2 or eclipse 2.1...the aosp camera has more resolutions than the stock cm camera...no force closes for me. I dont need face detection or all the little adjustments, but yes the touchwiz camera is better
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I'm guessing my flicker is from the diff kernel then not blending with the ROM very well.
AOSP doesn't have bigger resolutions tho does it? AOSP lists it as 8mp and TW uses the actual pixels(eg 1600x1200) and I've never bothered to see if they correspond I just assumed they did.
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I'm guessing my flicker is from the diff kernel then not blending with the ROM very well.
AOSP doesn't have bigger resolutions tho does it? AOSP lists it as 8mp and TW uses the actual pixels(eg 1600x1200) and I've never bothered to see if they correspond I just assumed they did.
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8mp is 3456x2304...here is a good read about resolution and mp
http://www.photoshopessentials.com/essentials/image-resolution/
I felt the same way and I just read it after waking up an hour ago... very disappointed, I don't want these ports I want real vzw jb.
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Kinda funny to because I'm pretty sure they can't even get root yet lol.
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hmm if the gs3 was laggy or there was no way to get google now then ya i would want jb but my phones flies and has google now so i dont really care about jb :silly:
I understand your point, but we have had this phone for almost a 4 months now and that phone has been out for just under a month ,Inc has been busting his ass dealing with other carriers leaks and ungrateful bastards on on this site, I'm just saying having a leak would make life better for all involved....
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mybook4 said:
This is one of the reasons why we have AOSP based roms. We become less dependent on manufacturer/carrier updates.
I ask you all, who has a more vested interest in getting the i535 working the best it can on the latest and greatest? The manufacturer / carrier that already took your money and can't directly make any more profit from giving you an upgrade or the many people who own the i535, use it every day, and have the development skills to make it rock (more)? I say it's the people.
CM10 is working excellently now. I recommend M2.
To the manufacturers. Give us the hardware. Open your radio code. We'll do the rest.
To the carriers. You are not phone companies anymore. You are simply Internet Service Providers. Minutes, texts, and data are all the same thing...data (especially when VoLTE is launched).
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So much truth. Everything's all ass backwards. Carriers think that they're phone designers and phone designers think they're software designers while google sits by going "duuuuur". Now we have stupid trivial things like the RIL holding cm10 back all because some assholes want their locks on everything. Imagine if AT&T or Intel told you what software you had to run on your computer? How did this sense of entitlement come about in the mobile industry?
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Imagine if AT&T or Intel told you what software you had to run on your computer? How did this sense of entitlement come about in the mobile industry?
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I totally agree with this.
bL33d said:
hmm if the gs3 was laggy or there was no way to get google now then ya i would want jb but my phones flies and has google now so i dont really care about jb :silly:
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While I semi-agree it would still be nice to have REAL JB like pretty much every other S3 in the world. I want my expandable notifications!!
I don't see why some people are surprised by this? Considering Motorola is now pretty much owned by Google?
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ICS has also now been ported and boots up on the Droid 3 lol. Great work to Hashcode for getting it going!
http://hash-of-codes.blogspot.com/2011/11/you-got-your-ice-cream-on-my-droid-3-no.html
Well, it is a 3G phone, so there shouldn't be issues getting the radios working. I do find it amusing the type of the support these cheesy phones get though.
I don't want to get off topic, but I am curious what sort of CIQ and other potential spyware has been implemented in ICS. It seems a good opportunity for Google to embed CIQ deep within the framework, but alas, who knows.
The main two features of ICS that I think I would like, but don't need, is USB OTG and WiFi Direct.
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ICS has also now been ported and boots up on the Droid 3 lol. Great work to Hashcode for getting it going!
http://hash-of-codes.blogspot.com/2011/11/you-got-your-ice-cream-on-my-droid-3-no.html
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Smh we will never see it
I keep hearing we won't have ics because we have a 4g phone but the bionic just got ics port... Maybe we still have hope?
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I keep hearing we won't have ics because we have a 4g phone but the bionic just got ics port... Maybe we still have hope?
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Very good point!!!!
I'm one person, would you rather have me work on getting a good ROM out based on stock TW, or go to work on what may never be a fully functional AOSP build? If you want it so bad, no one here is going to stop you from taking up the work on your own...
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I'm one person, would you rather have me work on getting a good ROM out based on stock TW, or go to work on what may never be a fully functional AOSP build? If you want it so bad, no one here is going to stop you from taking up the work on your own...
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Don't do it because of us! Do what you enjoy doing and share with us because your proud of your work.
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I'm one person, would you rather have me work on getting a good ROM out based on stock TW, or go to work on what may never be a fully functional AOSP build? If you want it so bad, no one here is going to stop you from taking up the work on your own...
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You already know. Yes, we are eager for ICS/CM7.1/CM7.2/CM9...and everything under the sun that a working RIL would enable us. But, having said that, I think the vast majority of us place FUNCTION in front of FEATURES.
We, Android enthusists with the skills to flash but not actually dev, are like children and will never be satisfied. We need a healthy meal, but are going to whine to have candy for dinner every night. As a dev, you're more similar to our parent in this metaphor... Don't take it personally when we metaphorically say we hate you--we don't. We love you. We need your help to eat at all, so make sure it's the best meal you can provide.
Besides, if the RIL never comes, who bought this phone for Ice Cream Sandwich anyway? I bought this phone for 4G.
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I'm one person, would you rather have me work on getting a good ROM out based on stock TW, or go to work on what may never be a fully functional AOSP build? If you want it so bad, no one here is going to stop you from taking up the work on your own...
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imnuts, please don't take my post or the title the wrong way. I am in now way at all saying anything bad about what you do for this phone. Your work is very highly regarded in my book. I was just pointing out how crazy it is with all these ICS ports coming out now. I can promise you that I am grateful for all the work you do for us.
If you want an AOSP ROM, you shouldn't buy a Samsung phone.
Twice bitten for me. Neither of my Samsung phones has had an AOSP ROM.
As a self-proclaimed nube, I am generally curious what advantages we would see on AOSP anyways.
Is there some super-spiffy amazing bad-ass feature that I don't know about?
Humble 5.0 is great for me. I will try Infinity if/when its ready.
ICS in particular has WiFi Direct and USB OTG as I mentioned above, which I assume that CM7 wouldn't enable.
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As a self-proclaimed nube, I am generally curious what advantages we would see on AOSP anyways.
Is there some super-spiffy amazing bad-ass feature that I don't know about?
Humble 5.0 is great for me. I will try Infinity if/when its ready.
ICS in particular has WiFi Direct and USB OTG as I mentioned above, which I assume that CM7 wouldn't enable.
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AOSP tends to offer a faster experience, and better battery life. It does this by not having any carrier or OEM bloat anywhere. There is a lot of stuff added on to the stock ROM that cannot be removed. To give you an idea, a heavily debloated TW ROM for the Fascinate is usually ~160MB, give or take, where as a stock AOSP ROM is <100MB for the same Android version, GB in this case. That would mean that even the best debloated/cleaned up TouchWiz ROM is still going to have about 40% more useless junk in it than a stock AOSP ROM, and that junk slows down the system and drains the battery.
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I keep hearing we won't have ics because we have a 4g phone but the bionic just got ics port... Maybe we still have hope?
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Bionic got ICS support because Kejar has a Bionic probably. I'm just glad we are on the eve of GB finally and that Imnuts and Imoseyon can get to business with some code.
Over the years around computers I've learned one thing, the next OS is always easier to use, easier to program in and what not, but it is always more complex and requires more hardware, more RAM and shortly after release the end user experience isn't all that much better than it was 6 months earlier. You should see DOS 5 run on a quad core monster processor - wow!
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Bionic got ICS support because Kejar has a Bionic probably. I'm just glad we are on the eve of GB finally and that Imnuts and Imoseyon can get to business with some code.
Over the years around computers I've learned one thing, the next OS is always easier to use, easier to program in and what not, but it is always more complex and requires more hardware, more RAM and shortly after release the end user experience isn't all that much better than it was 6 months earlier. You should see DOS 5 run on a quad core monster processor - wow!
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I agree with what you're saying mostly, but your post almost sounds like you expect Imnuts and Imoseyon to develop and post their work when they have zero obligation to develop and/or share any of their work in any way. If I wasn't so hard-pressed for cash, I would donate more to the devs. I will when I am able though.
One should also remember the short life cycle of smartphones. I am already looking forward to the Galaxy S III mostly for the display- SAMOLED III.
Also, I would like to be able to watch 480p Flash content in the browser without having to overclock, hopefully 720p Flash in the browser with the GS3.
Of course I would like my Charge to blaze along at its maximum potential, but there is a thin line between spending and wasting time on dated hardware. If you want the the best experience on a device, then it would be best to buy older hardware that it well-developed, like the Fascinate. I am willing to sacrifice for the perks of the Charge, like the SAMOLED+ display and 4G.
Here you guys go! Enjoy
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/forum-267/announcement-24-cyanogenmod-90-rc1-released-2012-jun-26/
EDIT: It appears as though it's still being uploaded to the servers, as I don't see it in the download section yet. I'm sure it'll be up shortly.
Hopefully there will be more details on things.
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Download is up.
Wait never mind. It says download but doesn't look available.
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i dont get that forum or site, somedays i can log in on the forum and others (like yesterday and today) i get a "Sorry, you don't have permission for that!" page and i cant login. and yes i've cleared cookies and all that, i even get it on my phone
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Download is up.
Wait never mind. It says download but doesn't look available.
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Yeah, I don't see our device on that page either.
Cause it isn't going to happen... think it was just a fluke, I looked at the p990 thread earlier and saw nothing on the matter and they'd be blowing up compared to us. So I think it was just a misunderstanding
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Sorry to get everyone's hopes up.
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Not coming for G2x I guess, not until LG/Nvidia release something.
All we can do is hope an official ICS release is made for the G2X or the O2X so we actually get hardware acceleration...
i know everyone wants an official ICS release but there are plenty of ICS roms for our phone, whats so special about a CM9 one? they all have the same drawbacks so really its just a matter of preference. and since cyanogen makes roms for just about every single phone out there he cant take the time to customize one for our phone, thats why i think the devs here make better roms
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i know everyone wants an official ICS release but there are plenty of ICS roms for our phone, whats so special about a CM9 one? they all have the same drawbacks so really its just a matter of preference. and since cyanogen makes roms for just about every single phone out there he cant take the time to customize one for our phone, thats why i think the devs here make better roms
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Cyanogenmod is split into teams. Ricardo works on our phone and he's the one that made ics even possible for us. As great as our devs are, they're all using his fixes.
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dodgefan67 said:
i know everyone wants an official ICS release but there are plenty of ICS roms for our phone, whats so special about a CM9 one? they all have the same drawbacks so really its just a matter of preference. and since cyanogen makes roms for just about every single phone out there he cant take the time to customize one for our phone, thats why i think the devs here make better roms
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Aren't you the beta tester for someone on these threads? You should learn a little more before saying things that are incorrect to the public... Yes our group for the G2X is doing some awesome work, but none of those are actually usable for a lot of us. I use my phone actually, alot and ICS is no where near usable, I don't even record or anything but even taking a picture and exiting out the app a certain way will cause for a reboot to be able to take a picture again... and like monkee said, Ricardo (Cm_arcee) is the CM dev for our phone and almost if not all LG line of phones. If CM team were to release an official RC it would be with fully working everything at least. That's why we were excited with it, compared to what is available now.
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Cyanogenmod is split into teams. Ricardo works on our phone and he's the one that made ics even possible for us. As great as our devs are, they're all using his fixes.
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totally forgot about arcee and as far as all the roms here using his fixes i dont see that as completely true as there are some roms here that are using AOSP pure so not using CM at all. unless (and this may be possible) his fixes are getting added into the code upstream then in a round about way those using AOSP would be using his fixes
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Aren't you the beta tester for someone on these threads? You should learn a little more before saying things that are incorrect to the public... Yes our group for the G2X is doing some awesome work, but none of those are actually usable for a lot of us. I use my phone actually, alot and ICS is no where near usable, I don't even record or anything but even taking a picture and exiting out the app a certain way will cause for a reboot to be able to take a picture again... and like monkee said, Ricardo (Cm_arcee) is the CM dev for our phone and almost if not all LG line of phones. If CM team were to release an official RC it would be with fully working everything at least. That's why we were excited with it, compared to what is available now.
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and yeah im a beta tester for Genesis and what did i say that was incorrect? and just because im a beta tester does not necessarily mean i know everything there is to know about android, but i know enough. i didnt mean to offend CM or people who love CM, but ive used it as well and really it just comes down to preferences. i truly dont think that CM is the be-all-end-all of G2x roms...thats all im saying
and why would anyone think that when CM releases a rom that it will be error free or have all features? i've been using 7.2 and for a few releases bluetooth call audio isnt working and that is the case with 7.2 stable, so your argument about having everything working doesnt hold any water
Don't mean to sound like I'm bashing you but I don't mind spreading the knowledge I've gained over the years of basic rooting and android...
None of what you see except for the OTA stock based roms are doable without the CM team... EB AOSP included. It says on their 1st page "A BIG THANKS TO CM-TEAM for they're amazing work without these guys hard work and great features none of this would be possible for me..." it's just how it is, Steve (cyanogen) Kondik has been at it since the G1 days... so CM is pretty much the "be-all-end-all of G2x roms" if your phone didn't function well on stock... every phone is like that, not just the G2X, other wise we will have stock based roms with tweaks here and there but making the lock screens and coding them out to where they function like they do is mostly and all Cyanogen... This is what I've gathered over the years if I'm wrong about some of it, I wouldn't surprised... Since I've been rooting and everything for the past 4 years, I should be a Dev by now but I'm too lazy for that plus work, school and a social life, I don't have the patience either haha.
7.2 stable is not stable but it is about 100X more stable then CM9 in my eyes and lots others, some people have no issue with it being the way it is but I'm super picky and 23 years old, I go out a lot and answer lots of calls, need stable battery those sorts of things, ICS is none of what I need or want on the G2X... also why I'm switching phones shortly.
again I didn't mean to attack, just opinionated I guess lol.
no worries, i didnt take it that way, im pretty opinionated as well
and you have great points about how you use your phone and what you need from it. i guess thats where i need to make a mental note that not everyone here uses their phone the same way and want different things from it and the software that runs on it
and i did not in anyway mean for my posts to sound like i was bashing cyanogen (dont know him well enough to call him Steve LOL). what they do is incredible and they (and all the other devs here) make flashing our phones fun (at least for me)
i think this can be let go, no harm no foul?
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no worries, i didnt take it that way, im pretty opinionated as well
and you have great points about how you use your phone and what you need from it. i guess thats where i need to make a mental note that not everyone here uses their phone the same way and want different things from it and the software that runs on it
and i did not in anyway mean for my posts to sound like i was bashing cyanogen (dont know him well enough to call him Steve LOL). what they do is incredible and they (and all the other devs here) make flashing our phones fun (at least for me)
i think this can be let go, no harm no foul?
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I in know way know him lol, just have followed him for years, he's an android celebrity after all... and definitely no harm no foul!
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I told everyone that Ricardo promises to port it as soon as he gets his hands on it. I had a long conversation with a friend last night about these fauxm9 ROMs. If you read my interview with Ricardo you would know he totally regrets his decision to release this crap. Source has even been pulled from cm. Our "CM9" source is a pile of app breaking hacks. I have the upmost respect for our devs, it is not their fault, but they have put soooo many band aids on this turd that I've noticed stability diminishing with each release. Too many patches, no real fixes. If anyone has noticed, ics releases have slowed dramatically. On the other hand, CM7 is on the brink of perfection, yet nobody's doing any kangs. What's left on CM7, blue tooth? I'm sure if devs worked on it they could figure it out in no time. Anyway, that's my opinion, and it's formed from pretty good sources.
I'm sure everyone knows what great friends mt3g and I are, but I stand by his his last comments. CM9 doesn't exist for our phone. Period.
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I told everyone that Ricardo promises to port it as soon as he gets his hands on it. I had a long conversation with a friend last night about these fauxm9 ROMs. If you read my interview with Ricardo you would know he totally regrets his decision to release this crap. Source has even been pulled from cm. Our "CM9" source is a pile of app breaking hacks. I have the upmost respect for our devs, it is not their fault, but they have put soooo many band aids on this turd that I've noticed stability diminishing with each release. Too many patches, no real fixes. If anyone has noticed, ics releases have slowed dramatically. On the other hand, CM7 is on the brink of perfection, yet nobody's doing any kangs. What's left on CM7, blue tooth? I'm sure if devs worked on it they could figure it out in no time. Anyway, that's my opinion, and it's formed from pretty good sources.
I'm sure everyone knows what great friends mt3g and I are, but I stand by his his last comments. CM9 doesn't exist for our phone. Period.
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Couldn't agree more .
Right! I love ICS and CM9, but fact is, these latest kangs of kanged kangs are soooo unstable it's comical they're being released. Focus should turn to CM7 until cm or lg releases something for ICS. Trust me, LG has to do ics for the O2x, it will be here soon enough.
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Hello. I have the Samsung Galaxy S3 and want to switch back to the One X due to its awesome screen. I initially didn't like the One X due to the overbearing Sense (especially the multitasking, I hated that side scrolling thing). Are there stable builds od Jellybean available? If you tried them, how is your experience with it?
I'm using CM10 on my One X and love it. So much faster and more responsive than sense.
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After I rooted I went to CleanROM 4.5 and I loved it. I enjoy sense, I just was much nicer on CleanROM thats for sure. But this is my first ever android phone, so i wanted to experience stock android. That's when I flashed CM10. I Gotta say, man is it ever smooth! This phone runs amazingly with Jelly Bean, its so fast so smooth and just so much better than sense.
I have owned every iphone up until now, and man, it was the right choice to change!
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I only played around with CM10 for a short time yesterday, so others can certainly speak on the matter better than I. But seeing as you haven't received a great many responses so far, here is my 2 cents:
Short answer is that JB is very young, and things are changing quickly and often.
The general UI is very smooth, and works very well. But there are still various bugs being worked out on certain aspects, which may or may not be a deal breakers for you (for now), depending on how you use your phone. On the 8-26 nightly, streaming audio was broken (Pandora didn't work at all) and even playing non-streaming music (MP3's on the SD) mostly did not work. It looks like this may have been fixed on the 8-28 nightly. But things are changing literally day by day, and not always for the better due to upstream changes. Seems that in call volume has gone back and forth from fixed to broken, for instance.
Video camera is mostly fixed on nightlies that are labelled EXPERIMENTAL in the file name, broken in the ones that do not. I say "mostly" because the output was good most the time, but 1 time out of maybe the 10 tries I made, the output was still garbled. Again, this is something that may get ironed out very soon. The dev mentioned they just got a open source version of the phone's camera software, and he sounded very optimistic this would help remedy the camera bugs.
Everyone's requirements for what makes a daily driver is different. But for me, there are enough issues to wait longer for the bugs to be worked out. No knock on the devs at all. Their hard work is totally appreciated. What has been accomplished is awesome (and in such a short time). But CM10 is still being billed as in an "early state". Some early adopters will have to tolerate some bugs to have the cutting edge, that's just how it always is. For those that need a more stable product, we'll have to wait a bit.
Yeah building on what he said, CM10 is stable enough for a daily driver (and has been for awhile) as long as you don't need your video camera. Things break here and there but as long as you pay attention to the thread then you will know what to expect from what builds. And btw the streaming audio was fixed in 8-28, used it this morning.
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Hey guys, just found this thread.
I am very interested in the one x but do not want anything to do with sense! Assuming I get a one x with 1.85 firmware or earlier, do you think there is enough development going on to get a extremely stable cm10 (or cm9) build for this phone?
It feels a little big to me and the power button could be in a better place, but I like everything else about the phone.
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Yeah building on what he said, CM10 is stable enough for a daily driver (and has been for awhile) as long as you don't need your video camera. Things break here and there but as long as you pay attention to the thread then you will know what to expect from what builds. And btw the streaming audio was fixed in 8-28, used it this morning.
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Besides the video camera, LTE also seems to have problems? Browsing through the thread I see people have to set a bunch of settings after every reboot for LTE to work. That can be a big issue for me.
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Besides the video camera, LTE also seems to have problems? Browsing through the thread I see people have to set a bunch of settings after every reboot for LTE to work. That can be a big issue for me.
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Its only two settings, which are easy to access
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How is jellybean?? As rick Ross would say. Like making love to the woman of your dreams, in a room full of money out London and she screams.
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I love Jellybean, but more importantly I don't think I'll ever go back to a non-AOSP based ROM. The devs who work on Sense ROMs do an amazing job removing bloatware and speeding up what HTC gave us, but you can't match the speed of software that was designed from the ground up to be sleek and smooth. Plus I just enjoy the customizability of AOKP and CM10.
My personal preference is CM10, mainly because of battery life and the small tweaks that are unique to CM10 (for now). As others have stated there are some stability issues with Jellybean, but there are bugs in all software and in time they will be worked out. Make a full backup in TWRP and just try flashing CyanogenMod for a day to see if you like it. Titanium Backup Pro offers complete backups of all app data and even SMS, so I am constantly flashing new ROMs without much risk of permanent data loss.
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Besides the video camera, LTE also seems to have problems? Browsing through the thread I see people have to set a bunch of settings after every reboot for LTE to work. That can be a big issue for me.
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I don't know. LTE works for me. Noticed it when I went to work today. Btw LTE just got switched on in Wilmington, DE. I never had to change any settings, it just worked.
Edit: I remember I was on CleanROM (forget which version, but it was quite awhile ago, I think it was based on 1.85), then moved to AOKP M6, then to CM10.
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Yep, lte has always worked for me as well (cm10 and aokp). I did come from cleanrom though (started with version 1). I switched to aokp jellybean and it's been more stable and honestly, smoother than cm was. That was back on the 8/16 version so things may have changed. Since I can't comment on the newer releases of cm, I will say that the aokp jellybean release is extremely smooth overall. As with cm, camera and video still have issues. My personal opinion though, is that neither aokp or cm are as stable, smooth, complete as cleanrom de was. They are getting close though and definitely close enough that I have no desire or need to go back (though clean de was/is a heck of a rom).
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CM10 is surprisingly polished.
Most things thats is important will work and MiLocker works really well on it too.
Most Awesome feature is the ability to remap the buttons.
Getting better every day and tonight's build should have 100% working cameras in the nightly builds. No more experimental builds. I highly suggest cm10, haven't tried miui or aokp jb releases yet, been in cm10 for close to two weeks and can tell you it's really dd material now. Most kinks are gone, and battery life is usable even with wake locks. And with a new build everyday, only getting better constantly.
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Cm10 is amazing....video camera is 100% as of the latest 8/31 nightly
Lte is an issue if u did not come from a sense 4.0.3 ROM such as stock 1.85 senseless 1.1 or clean ROM 4.0.
I never have issues with lte I never go into settings to change anything.
The one gripe is battery life is not as good as it was on sense first day on cm10 is worse it gets better every charge but its maybe 80-90% wat it was on sense. I still go the whole day 15+ hours and still have 40% batt I just charge every night now no big deal its worth it tho whole experience is so much better
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Yeah building on what he said, CM10 is stable enough for a daily driver (and has been for awhile) as long as you don't need your video camera. Things break here and there but as long as you pay attention to the thread then you will know what to expect from what builds. And btw the streaming audio was fixed in 8-28, used it this morning.
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you should also know that there is a low volume issue on calls. The person at the other end will hear you as if you were wispering if you talk normally.
I hate screaming at my phone. Developer has tried increasing the mic volume but than it brings in-call echo.
Hopefully they can get it squared away but be ready to talk loud or repeat yourself during phone calls. weird part is that SIP calls (like with Skype) works fine.
I am still running the ROM and loving it.
Than ks
Alright so I just found out on android authority that cyanogen mod just released its stable builds for the galaxy s3 variants. Just scroll down and find d2vzw!
http://download.cyanogenmod.com/?type=stable
Download will be 160mb
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Hate to say it but TW Roms on the S3 FTW.
Nothing more stable then the TW Roms we have for the Verizon S3. AOSP is just not there yet and who knows if it will ever be. After coming from a GNEX, you really see AOSP was not meant for any other devices and is loaded with problems when using anything else then a Nexus device.
Would love to get another Nexus device but who knows if Verizon will ever see one again and no other network is really good enough to pull me away right now.
Also, Google's claim about no LTE on the Nexus 4 due to bad battery, did anyone at Google try the S3? I would hardly call 4 hours of on screen time over LTE bad battery. They need to look past the GNEX which for whatever reason was a disaster when it came to battery. My wife's Rezound with like a 1650mAh battery gets as much screen on time then my GNEX did with a 2100mAh battery. Knock knock, don't we think something was wrong there!
Actually, I used the Thunderbolt I had previous to the GS3 for over a year on AOSP and it was AT LEAST as stable as the stock rom...probably more so. It just took time for it to get there. Saying that AOSP will never be stable is just...well, hogwash...Right now it's questionable. The roms are stable, it's just data that has a bit of an issue. If you're in a great reception area, there's no reason to not use it. Fringe areas, well, there are pros and cons.
Chuckleb0ne said:
Alright so I just found out on android authority that cyanogen mod just released its stable builds for the galaxy s3 variants. Just scroll down and find d2vzw!
Download will be 160mb
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I saw this, this morning... Apparently people are still having issues with blue tooth audio, and NFC.. but hey its a stable build not a RC. Will be flashing this at lunch!
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Actually, I used the Thunderbolt I had previous to the GS3 for over a year on AOSP and it was AT LEAST as stable as the stock rom...probably more so. It just took time for it to get there. Saying that AOSP will never be stable is just...well, hogwash...Right now it's questionable. The roms are stable, it's just data that has a bit of an issue. If you're in a great reception area, there's no reason to not use it. Fringe areas, well, there are pros and cons.
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I never said it will never be there I said who knows if it will get there. The Thunderbolt was never stable on stock so saying AOSP was just as stable is not saying much. lol
Signal is important to many people. If I was not worried about signals I would not be on Verizon paying their hight prices. I would be paying half the price for service running a Nexus 4 on a crappy GSM network. There are more issues then just signal and sure eventually they may all get worked out but so many people here jump devices so often we never get to see the final product if one is produced.
All I am saying is TW Roms have been so good on the S3 I cannot imagine sacrificing the stability at this point for an AOSP rom and trust me I would love to run AOSP. I never knew how good it felt until the GNEX which was my first Nexus device. Man, did AOKP rule on that phone.
I am currently using this rom. The only problems I seem to have are GPS locks, and the speaker phone echo. Supposedly some work was done on the echo, so perhaps a wipe is need to reap the benefits. At this point, once those two problems are fixed I would consider it a daily driver for anyone.
I don't use NFC or bluetooth, so I am unaware of problems related to those features.
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I'm not really sure if there is an exact stable build since the supposed stable build had Bluetooth issue by not giving the bass
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I never said it will never be there I said who knows if it will get there. The Thunderbolt was never stable on stock so saying AOSP was just as stable is not saying much. lol
Signal is important to many people. If I was not worried about signals I would not be on Verizon paying their hight prices. I would be paying half the price for service running a Nexus 4 on a crappy GSM network. There are more issues then just signal and sure eventually they may all get worked out but so many people here jump devices so often we never get to see the final product if one is produced.
All I am saying is TW Roms have been so good on the S3 I cannot imagine sacrificing the stability at this point for an AOSP rom and trust me I would love to run AOSP. I never knew how good it felt until the GNEX which was my first Nexus device. Man, did AOKP rule on that phone.
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If signal was so important people would only buy HTC and Motorola phones...just saying. I love my S3 but those two companies produce far better radios.
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Has anyone found a workaround to get NFC to work in Cyanogen 10 Stable?
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Has anyone found a workaround to get NFC to work in Cyanogen 10 Stable?
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NFC does work on cm10 stable
ddurandSGS3 said:
NFC does work on cm10 stable
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I can't figure out why it isn't working for me. I go to Settings, Click on More, And Check the NFC box and it is light greyed out and it does not allow me to complete any NFC activities. I know my NFC works as I've used it this week on rooted Jellybean. Am I missing something very obvious?
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Hate to say it but TW Roms on the S3 FTW.
Nothing more stable then the TW Roms we have for the Verizon S3. AOSP is just not there yet and who knows if it will ever be. After coming from a GNEX, you really see AOSP was not meant for any other devices and is loaded with problems when using anything else then a Nexus device.
Would love to get another Nexus device but who knows if Verizon will ever see one again and no other network is really good enough to pull me away right now.
Also, Google's claim about no LTE on the Nexus 4 due to bad battery, did anyone at Google try the S3? I would hardly call 4 hours of on screen time over LTE bad battery. They need to look past the GNEX which for whatever reason was a disaster when it came to battery. My wife's Rezound with like a 1650mAh battery gets as much screen on time then my GNEX did with a 2100mAh battery. Knock knock, don't we think something was wrong there!
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I have to disagree. Liquid smooth rom is the first aosp I've seen that runs like butter.
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If signal was so important people would only buy HTC and Motorola phones...just saying. I love my S3 but those two companies produce far better radios.
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I've yet to see an HTC phone as light weight as the S3. Every HTC phone I've held feels like a brick.
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I can't figure out why it isn't working for me. I go to Settings, Click on More, And Check the NFC box and it is light greyed out and it does not allow me to complete any NFC activities. I know my NFC works as I've used it this week on rooted Jellybean. Am I missing something very obvious?
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if you search "nfc greyed out" in the question forum youll find pages of results and threads about this, and youll get your informatino much faster.
theres a zip youll find, as well as instructions.
nandroid
flash TW JB rom.
enable NFC (might as well get a GPS lock also)
restore nandroid
win
For the NFC issue, I believe that the CM10 thread includes a flashable zip or APK to fix the NFC: see this thread.
I do have a general question. I have been running CleanROM 5.6 but wanted to know how "stable" CM10 is in comparison to CleanROM. I understand that I'd be missing out on some Touchwiz features (motions, smartstay, powersave), but I am most concerned w/ battery life and data connection, particularly as I find myself never using the Touchwiz features anyway.
I am finding that reception on my S3 is inferior to my Razr M - for example, where I would get 3G or 4G signal on my M, I was getting 1x or no data on my S3. From what I've also read, data on the CM ROMs is inferior to the data on the TW ROMS. Can anyone confirm this?
Also, w/ battery life, I've also read that battery life on CM ROMS is inferior to that of Touchwiz. In any case, I am finding that the battery life on the S3 in general is inferior to that of the Razr M given my use. Specifically, I push my work email, read and respond to emails, browse the web a little bit, a few phone calls and text messages, and some FB use. On the Razr M, I was consistently getting about 36 hours of use, whereas, on the S3, I have been barely able to get 24 hours. If battery life on TW is already inferior to that of the Razr M, I am not willing to sacrifice battery life further by going with CM10.
In addition to battery and consistent data, are there any other bugs/issues w/ the CM10 stable that I should be aware of (tethering, BT connectivity, low call volume, speakerphone echo, etc.)?
Lastly, I assume that CM10 stable does not have the multitude of bugs that the present version of CM10.1 has?
It's frustrating hearing all the fuss over the Mecha yet HTC doesn't even want to support their device. Sad really, especially if you can't afford another device
I honestly believe the reason the Mecha didn't get the update was due to Verizon, not HTC. I think HTC took the time to make the update, then it went to Verizon's metaphorical desk and sat there. If Verizon can convince existing members to upgrade, they will do it. The more your software gets updated, the less money they make. Stupid, greedy, marketing ploy in my opinion.
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I'm not sure what the fuss is about? I've run several ICS ROMs and there's really nothing to get excited about.
One important note, ICS will come (if and when it does come) with Sense 3.6 which is almost exactly the same as Sense 3.5 in the Eternity ROM and the BAMF ROM. Sense 4.x is a big change but ICS won't include it for the T'bolt(due maybe to insufficient memory?) In short, you won't see much difference.
My phone works just fine, it does everything I ask it to do and does it well.
FWIW, I'm running a Gingerbread ROM, Virus' excellent Eternity 8-4 and I'm staying with it, even after ICS is released, unless it's updated to some of the ICS features AND Sense 4.x!
I think the timing of people "abandoning ship" has as much to do with contracts coming up than anything else. That said, the lack of ongoing support for what HTC and Verizon positioned as the performance leader (at least at the time, and certainly as its first LTE phone) is what many are voicing frustration about. Combine that with technology consumers' typical desire to have what is "latest and greatest" and it isn't surprising that folks are looking at alternatives like DNA, S3, Note, N4, etc.
Me... I am happy enough with a stable phone that browses, gets and sends emails, and gets through a full day and evening on a charge. Sure, I'd like better battery life. More so, a better screen (bigger, brighter, sharper). Like a thinner form factor that is lighter. Would really like it to be able to display to a TV easily too. But a famous bike designer named Keith Bontrager had a famous saying when people came to him with requests for the "perfect" bike... "Strong. Light. Cheap. Pick Two." I suspect we will always being looking for the perfect phone and be forced to make our choice based on what is most important (and compromise on what we can do without).
btw, I have tried at least one of the ICS ROMs. And while it was a very good ROM through great work by the designer, the fact that they are all based on the same leak seems to limit what can be done or expected with them, and so those phones with ICS (or better yet, Jelly Bean) will always seem better. I can't afford a new phone now anyway... so hopefully when I can the newer phones will be closer to my ideal of perfect is.
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I'm not sure what the fuss is about? I've run several ICS ROMs and there's really nothing to get excited about.
One important note, ICS will come (if and when it does come) with Sense 3.6 which is almost exactly the same as Sense 3.5 in the Eternity ROM and the BAMF ROM. Sense 4.x is a big change but ICS won't include it for the T'bolt(due maybe to insufficient memory?) In short, you won't see much difference.
My phone works just fine, it does everything I ask it to do and does it well.
FWIW, I'm running a Gingerbread ROM, Virus' excellent Eternity 8-4 and I'm staying with it, even after ICS is released, unless it's updated to some of the ICS features AND Sense 4.x!
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The big deal for me is compatibility. More and more apps these days are requiring 4.0 and up. But really, I only ran the ICS Sense builds once and hated them - horrible battery drain, lag, etc. I've been running AOSP builds since they had working data as a DD, and even with the bugs, these ROMs perform better, IMHO than the AOSP GB ROMs did.
I'm selling my gs3 and getting the tbolt again. The gs3 is nice but too much for me. I could use the money anyway. I personally love the thunderbolt.
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I will be voting with my dollars, and loudly telling Verizon that their behavior regarding the Thunderbolt has been unacceptable.
I will be leaving them ASAP, and encouraging as many people as possible to defect, depriving VZW of cash flow. It's a tiny amount, but hopefully disgruntled former customers will make their voices heard.
I was skeptical about returning to VZW for the Thunderbolt. Their betrayal has me convinced that I was right to mistrust Verizon.
Never again. Bastards.
go page plus
BoulderGeek said:
I will be voting with my dollars, and loudly telling Verizon that their behavior regarding the Thunderbolt has been unacceptable.
I will be leaving them ASAP, and encouraging as many people as possible to defect, depriving VZW of cash flow. It's a tiny amount, but hopefully disgruntled former customers will make their voices heard.
I was skeptical about returning to VZW for the Thunderbolt. Their betrayal has me convinced that I was right to mistrust Verizon.
Never again. Bastards.
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Want to take advantage of Verizon's excellent network (no comparison in my area) for pennies on the dollar of what they charge? Page plus is a reseller that piggybacks on Verizons network. You can tell VZW to go f__k themselves permanently (with my light usage I went from $90 a month on verizon to $12 a month on page plus) and only had to send in my TBolt for some non rom flash thing that they had back to me in less than a week. I cancelled my VZW plan and paid the $250 penalty and have already recouped my costs. I was even able to keep the same number I had with Verizon. The only disadvantages are no LTE (lol on Thunderbolt no 30 min handwarmer) and their maximum data plan is 2 gig data a month. Truly not a shill and would keep this to myself so deal doesn't change in future but the whole VZW TBolt thing has p_ssed me off.
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Yeah this has left a bad taste in my mouth for non nexus phones, but unfortunately verizon is the only real option for my area.
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Yeah this has left a bad taste in my mouth for non nexus phones, but unfortunately verizon is the only real option for my area.
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Page plus cellular uses VZW network for a lot lower bills so they are an option where ever VZW is as long as you don't need LTE.
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dumas777 said:
Page plus cellular uses VZW network for a lot lower bills so they are an option where ever VZW is as long as you don't need LTE.
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I like twisted's ICS Rom, works pretty good and constantly getting better. I will be upgrading next year though.
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I like twisted's ICS Rom, works pretty good and constantly getting better. I will be upgrading next year though.
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I agree that twisted's ICS rom works very well. I have been using it now since it came out. It is very responsive and works 100%. Also there is constant support for it updates are always coming out.
I got tired of no one else creating ROMs for us so I am working on my own right now. Testing the waters on battery life first before I move on to theming and other customizations.
Not going anywhere with this phone. Works too well.
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Turd Furguson said:
I got tired of no one else creating ROMs for us so I am working on my own right now. Testing the waters on battery life first before I move on to theming and other customizations.
Not going anywhere with this phone. Works too well.
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If you're interested in someone doing any testing, I would be happy to test it.
Also, you guys made me appreciate what we've got, thank you
I also love my TB and I have compared it to other phones. This is my first Android phone but I've had experience with the DROID 2 and the SGS3. I do love the S3's bigger screen however but even after I get another phone I will be keeping this phone.
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Turd Furguson said:
I got tired of no one else creating ROMs for us so I am working on my own right now. Testing the waters on battery life first before I move on to theming and other customizations.
Not going anywhere with this phone. Works too well.
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Twisted's (credit also to liquid) rom does rule and makes continuing to the use the TBolt viable for at least some time. The ICS leak and derivatives are not ready to be dd imho plus sense sucks. I don't want to blow $300 (screw contracts) on another phone any time soon so nothing but props to Twisted.
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Twisted's (credit also to liquid) rom does rule and makes continuing to the use the TBolt viable for at least some time. The ICS leak and derivatives are not ready to be dd imho plus sense sucks. I don't want to blow $300 (screw contracts) on another phone any time soon so nothing but props to Twisted.
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Haven't tried any of his builds yet. The way people are raving might have to give it a shot. Been stuck on t-shed 1.5, it has been to rock solid to try anything new.
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Nexus 4 Straighttalk
Im thinking Nexus 4 on straighttalk if i dont get ICS By the end of the year on my thunderbolt im skipping and upgrading and ill finally be able to tell verizon to kiss my ass. I actually think ill start paying yearly and pay straighttalk off fo a year and save even more money.
Not everyone is jumping ship.... Some are just boarding...
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