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I need a reason to do this.

Why should I need to root my phone, I understand about bloatwares from AT&T but need a reason if I root It what will happen? Also once its rooted, will I be able to get update android 2.2? I need a good reason why I should root it. So please help me out with those list of reasons. Thank you.
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Seriously, put a little effort into searching this forum. Look at one of the other android forums. If you don't know why you would want to root your phone, then you don't need to do it.

That's the problem, all the search comes out different. That's why I am asking on here cuz nothing comes out right. You don't have to be mean or even post on here if You didn't like to hear it. I just want the real opinion and all those opinions will summerize.
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Here's the things I've done since I rooted:
To get rid of the ATT apps (this one is important because they launch for no reason).
To sideload apps right from the phone.
To change the appearance.
To really "own" my phone.
I really don't know beyond that. I guess if you're fine without rooting it then don't. I used it happily for 2 weeks without root, but I couldnt stand the invasive launching ATT bloat.

What about the update, if its rooted, can I still get in air update?
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Yes
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setcpu seems to be enough of a reason for me to root. seems to make a huge difference! will have to try and donate next payday

[Q] D2G root?

Will the D2 root method work for D2G? And is there any sort of simple root for the device?
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Download Astro from the market, then look for z4 root here on XDA. Yes it works.

I can also confirm z4root works for a permaroot. I've done it twice.

Yep Z4Root for me as well. Never had an issue but....
I use kaspersky Anti Virus and it will report it as a Virus when you try and download it. (Kaspersky is actually is correct as it uses a known technique to get root access that a Virus would use to do it's thing)
But the file itself is safe!
Download it and put it on your SD card and run it.
I make an APK folder on the SD card to keep all these non market downloads nice and organized.
If you should ever flash a new rom you will want to be able to find and re-install them later because they won't re-install automaticially unless you get them from the market otherwise.

Okay! One more question guys.... a tech at the VZW store told me that the D2Gs stock Froyo has pretty much a built in app killer! I think that's bull, but he strongly believed it did? Is this true?
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To my understanding all (or maybe just the newest?) versions of Android will close low priority processes when resources get low.

-Gilgamesh- said:
To my understanding all (or maybe just the newest?) versions of Android will close low priority processes when resources get low.
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Im pretty sure its only froyo that closes low priority processes.

Yeah, when I read that it said "The Android operating system..." it didnt really elaborate as to what build, so not 100% sure.

Its android 2.2 on the D2G
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The blur has its own task killer that works great. It learns what u use and what u don't.
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When you root the D2G -- does it still need to be 'unlocked' if I want to put a SIM in it for overseas travel?

Rooting and unlocking are two completely different things. Rooting has no impact on unlocking.

Rooting and Unlocking
As far as rooting SOC is probably the best and easiest way to go and to get the phone unlocked you can call the Manufacturer or Verizon to get the unlock code. I do a lot of overseas travel with the U.S.Army and they usually give me the unlock code right over the phone when I tell them I'm going overseas for the military. Then you install a SIM card(Not SD Card) from another company into the phone and it will let you input the unlock code. If the unlock code is entered correctly the phone will tell you it has been unlocked. Rooting has no effect on unlocking the phone.

Rooting MoPho w/ 2.3.5

Hi - I'm no developer, just a fan. I've read all the rules, terms, threats about what happens if you don't SEARCH first - guys I've done it all and for a long time. I have been studying up on how to root my MoPhoton 4g since I got it last August. I think I'm finally ready....but now I'm afraid I'm too late. I got involved in that soak test, which installed 2.3.5. Now, if I've searched/read acs and xda correctly (and other less intelligent sites), here's where I am:
There is no way to downgrade from 2.3.5
Shabbypenguin's wonderfully simple and sweet One Root won't do the trick on 2.3.5 (and boy did I try it MANY times). Had correct drives installed, etc...but no go. I assume you guys know what I'm talking about, but I can and will paste what the script read if you need me too. Short story...got all the way to "you should have root"....but I don't.
Currently the only way to do it is with a root method called Torpedo....which I don't know enough about yet but I'm about to get into it...
And finally, even if I get root, I won't have bootloader, again, because of 2.3.5.
Sound about right so far? If so, here's my big question:
If I can ONLY root for now, will I obtain the benefits I am looking for (mainly increasing/unleashing the SPEED I know this phone is capable of, and fixing whatever problem has always caused this phone to flicker it's wifi on and off and on and off constantly all the time, even in the same location....it drives me up the wall! Also, I'd like to get free wireless hotspot too, cause if you're gonna dream, dream big.
Thanks guys

I got a little confused reading your post, so sorry if this isn't the answer you are looking for...
Rooting would help you in a lot of ways, but the full potential of the phone is unlocked with custom roms and kernels...
For wifi on off, go to settings>wireless and network> wifi, and then press menu, select "advanced"...and see "wifi sleep policy" is set to "never"...
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Photon root, bootloader, 2.3.5
Thanks for the response. Allow me to clarify:
Yes, I do want to root and install CM 7 or CM9, but if I can't unlock bootloader that's not possible....correct? If so, I'm hoping someone will tell me I'm wrong about one or more of my earlier assumptions (see bulleted list in OP).

Sorry, but I do not know the way around locked bootloaders...my device has an unlocked bootloader, and this makes job fairly simple...
Does you device have a subforum at xda? If so, then ask this over there, and you shall receive specific help there...
Or wait here for someone with more experience with locked bootloaders...
(P.s. look on over at youtube, you may find an answer)
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cool old lady said:
Thanks for the response. Allow me to clarify:
Yes, I do want to root and install CM 7 or CM9, but if I can't unlock bootloader that's not possible....correct? If so, I'm hoping someone will tell me I'm wrong about one or more of my earlier assumptions (see bulleted list in OP).
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You can unlock but you will lose 4G.
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Kingroot? Anyone?

I have the Z5 coming in a couple of days and want to get familiar with it before it arrives.
I've previously had the Samsung Note 2, which was a pleasure and easy to root and flash roms, but had horrible burn issues dues to AMOLED display. I've also owned two LG phones (the Optimus G Pro and the G2) both of which sucked due to easily being bricked.
Is the root app Kingroot a good way to go? Or should I opt to do the headache-causing fastboot adb method?
I'm probably just going to keep the stock rom that is on the phone, I believe it will be 5.1 or 5.1.1 as I've heard that MM takes away the Stamina mode.
Seeing that I will probably keep stock rom, all I want to do is root the phone so that I can remove bloatware and install Titanium and Philz One Touch or TWRP if the Philz is not available for this phone.
So, having searched, I found no threads on the Kingroot app. is there anyone here with experience with this?
DISCLAIMER: I AM VERY WELL AWARE OF THE HOUSE TROLLS WHO COME ALONG AND CHANT THINGS LIKE "SEARCH FIRST BEFORE ASKING QUESTIONS" AND I'M WELL AWARE OF THOSE WHO WOULD RATHER POST A LINK TO ANOTHER TOPIC. PLEASE! DO NOT DO EITHER OF THESE. I AM SIMPLY LOOKING TO DISCUSS THIS WITHIN THIS THREAD.
THANK YOU AND COME AGAIN.

Tbh I don't think kingroot is supported as there is no root method.
There is however a kingroot thread maybe a search
I for one would use it to root then change to supersu not caring about my details being shared all we all want is root what ever method
http://bfy.tw/4plb
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/one-click-root-tool-android-2-x-5-0-t3107461
Since there is another thread dedicated why is there need to discuss it here?
After reading your "disclaimer" [emoji14]
(sorry couldn't resist lol)
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Kingroot won't work. At this time. Because of bootloader protection Sony created. Not root for Locked Bootloader at this point, maybe but maybe in future...

bubimir13 said:
Kingroot won't work. At this time. Because of bootloader protection Sony created. Not root for Locked Bootloader at this point, maybe but maybe in future...
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It's due to dm-verity that has been available on Linux for some time and that Google and Sony and others implemented. That however maybe possible to be patched using some sort of exploit which is what root apps use to root in the first place for many years
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I didn't see the other thread for Kingroot. And that thread you posted was about Kingroot in general. I was looking for Kingroot germane to the Z5.
(I've been coming here for almost three years and have found the search function to be as much of a headache and the web version of this site. Ever notice how many awful ads there are and other things that cause the page to load like it was 1997?)
Any how, thanks all for your input. I figured Kingroot was too good to be true. LOL
So if I'm understanding correctly, after unlocking the bootloader, the only way to root is through fastboot ADB? (ugh)

Perry2547 said:
I didn't see the other thread for Kingroot. And that thread you posted was about Kingroot in general. I was looking for Kingroot germane to the Z5.
(I've been coming here for almost three years and have found the search function to be as much of a headache and the web version of this site. Ever notice how many awful ads there are and other things that cause the page to load like it was 1997?)
Any how, thanks all for your input. I figured Kingroot was too good to be true. LOL
So if I'm understanding correctly, after unlocking the bootloader, the only way to root is through fastboot ADB? (ugh)
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I understand that's why I use Google with XDA at the end of the search term instead of XDA search. in fact I don't even use the XDA site anymore because the ads and tracking slows the pages right down.
Yeah I wouldn't actually unlock my bootloader anymore even if I could.
The process is to install a custom kernel with fastboot
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So in order to root, first would have to unlock the bootloader, and you wouldn't recommend that?
It's not that big of a deal right now to me as with Lollipop many of the bloatware apps can be disabled.
One of the things I'm really wanting to do is figure out what way to tweak this device (when it gets here) so that there won't be over heating issues. I did my research before buying this phone and I think it's going to be a good one. I've seen some posts about the camera not being that great but I still have hopes that the camera will be one of the best parts of it.
At the moment, since my G2 is nothing more than a paperweight, (due to my attempt at replacing the non-removable battery) I'm using a $49 Kyocera from Walmart. So just about anything will be better than the camera on this phone, LOL

Currently yes. Not unlocking the bootloader is my personal opinion.
I don't have any overheating issues and camera is great. Trouble with research is people only write the bad they have. People also write the bad without properly debugging the issue I think most the issues are due to user with a small percentage being faulty units.
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YA 4.4.2 Bootloader Discussion

Hey there remaining Verizon S3 users!
Coming from my favorite device the T959V this has been quite a trip. This device's bootloader is seemingly impossible to unlock on the 4.4.2 NE1 firmware.
I've got a slightly modified Superlite rom rolling with SafeStrap already strapped. And it is great to say the least. Added some initd and utilities. Evie launcher is pretty nice btw- recommend a try :good:
However. I still really want this thing to be unlocked. The T959V has multiple working Fro, GB, ICS, JB, KK, L, M, AND Nougat ROMS. Totally different devices yes but-- even the newer S4-S6 have cracked loaders now.
There has to be a special way to change this things firmware.
Right now I have 2 ideas to throw out to the wind-
1- Would be that there could be a way to trick the device into thinking it is receiving a new update. Maybe somehow with CSC or something. Also I saw a file named authorized.xml and was reading through to find traces of knox. Would unauthorizing knox strings somehow render it useless?
2- I was reading a suggested post about AVB boots and how they can be resigned on devices such as the Google Pixel and allows the newer patches to still install. Including what was described as a forced re-sign method.
--- Could we somehow resign the bootloader on our device so as to gain control of it? Has anybody tried anything like this since around 2015?
I'll gladly talk about all of this more whenever I feel like popping on- and atm I have no web besides this service. :silly: so no DOS updates and no shiny linux for now.
Gladly tell me that it is "impossible" but I'm not asking that. I'm trying to add some ideas to possibly do the impossible.
Edit: This seems to be an interesting lead on emmc cracking this device. It's probably why people in other threads were in search of a "dev" edition.
http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f777/unlock-samsung-devices-bootloader-emmc-backdoor-2142981/

graycow9 said:
Hey there remaining Verizon S3 users!
Coming from my favorite device the T959V this has been quite a trip. This device's bootloader is seemingly impossible to unlock on the 4.4.2 NE1 firmware.
I've got a slightly modified Superlite rom rolling with SafeStrap already strapped. And it is great to say the least. Added some initd and utilities. Evie launcher is pretty nice btw- recommend a try :good:
However. I still really want this thing to be unlocked. The T959V has multiple working Fro, GB, ICS, JB, KK, L, M, AND Nougat ROMS. Totally different devices yes but-- even the newer S4-S6 have cracked loaders now.
There has to be a special way to change this things firmware.
Right now I have 2 ideas to throw out to the wind-
1- Would be that there could be a way to trick the device into thinking it is receiving a new update. Maybe somehow with CSC or something. Also I saw a file named authorized.xml and was reading through to find traces of knox. Would unauthorizing knox strings somehow render it useless?
2- I was reading a suggested post about AVB boots and how they can be resigned on devices such as the Google Pixel and allows the newer patches to still install. Including what was described as a forced re-sign method.
--- Could we somehow resign the bootloader on our device so as to gain control of it? Has anybody tried anything like this since around 2015?
I'll gladly talk about all of this more whenever I feel like popping on- and atm I have no web besides this service. :silly: so no DOS updates and no shiny linux for now.
Gladly tell me that it is "impossible" but I'm not asking that. I'm trying to add some ideas to possibly do the impossible.
Edit: This seems to be an interesting lead on emmc cracking this device. It's probably why people in other threads were in search of a "dev" edition.
http://forum.gsmhosting.com/vbb/f777/unlock-samsung-devices-bootloader-emmc-backdoor-2142981/
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I've been around this and many many other forums for years now. If there was an unlock method it would of been found years ago. Devs have long moved on from the old S3. I still have my S3 lying around, bootloader unlocked but I really haven't messed around with it for quite a long time now
And yes the dev edition would of been nice had someone actually had one, it would of of course made it easier to crack the bootloader option maybe. I don't know much about the ins and outs of the device but I know many are permanently locked and will probably never be unlocked.
As far as certain other Samsung devices being unlocked those are far and few between. VZW got smart and started just locking them from the start. This is a huge reason why I left Verizon. The S3 was my last device on big red. I since have had a Nexus 5 and 6 and now a oneplus 3t. I really don't like locked devices and the ability to unlock them and customize them just intrigues me to no end. Good luck however in finding something that may work, but I highly doubt it will ever be cracked
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Ya I expected your negatude Shapes. Already seen that you have been searching but it isn't just some application you run. It's an unknown exploit that I'm sure exists. There are exploits right now that can be considered viral potentially exploiting my device as we speak. Maybe not granted my semi-precautious take on things.
Quadrooter and dirty cow could be used to exploit the S3 and gain access to a quoted "all" physical memory. So I find it hard to believe that things can't work in our favor.
Being open minded here. After all, this is technically hacking your own device. Which--
Got me thinking the other day, becausr I was setting up my laptop proper- could we run a nix distro and poke through the bootloader's parameters via exploitation tools? Referencing Kali or it's elder BTrack. But I think it is possible and I just haven't gotten around this loop mounting issue.
To be clear, running a distro ON the device. My flat is already running square.
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Also a purposely separate post- I'm building a ROM for this locked firmware and the goal is to have some specific updated apps and yet trim it nicely so as to save space and RAM it's mostly stock style-wise but it'd be cool to re-theme it. I haven't gotten things deodexed yet- being I haven't gotten my apktools working proper yet.
Is there anybody left to be interested in this? I haven't posted anything I've made before- usually just keep them lying around for emergency flashes.
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graycow9 said:
Ya I expected your negatude Shapes. Already seen that you have been searching but it isn't just some application you run. It's an unknown exploit that I'm sure exists. There are exploits right now that can be considered viral potentially exploiting my device as we speak. Maybe not granted my semi-precautious take on things.
Quadrooter and dirty cow could be used to exploit the S3 and gain access to a quoted "all" physical memory. So I find it hard to believe that things can't work in our favor.
Being open minded here. After all, this is technically hacking your own device. Which--
Got me thinking the other day, becausr I was setting up my laptop proper- could we run a nix distro and poke through the bootloader's parameters via exploitation tools? Referencing Kali or it's elder BTrack. But I think it is possible and I just haven't gotten around this loop mounting issue.
To be clear, running a distro ON the device. My flat is already running square.
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I don't think shapes was trying to act negative at all, just stating the obvious. Nobody is going to try to unlock the Verizon S3, it's pretty much a dead end.
The unlock method used on the S5 will most likely work on this phone, but we need a developer CID to rewrite to the emmc as the series chip used on the S3 likely has the same vulnerability. This is what happened on the S5.
If you read some of the other posts (sounds like you have), we looked for an S3 developer edition but had no luck in tracking one down. For one, it's an incredibly old device. Secondly, you'd have to be semi retarded to purchase one as the original unlock method was around before the developer edition was released.
So yes, if you can find a developer S3 this will likely be an unlock method. It tricks the S3 into thinking it's a developer phone and unlocks the bootloader if the method to write it works the same as in the S5.
As for your questions,
1. I think you're underestimating the amount of security that goes into the bootloader itself. If you want to learn a lot about Android security in general, in the Android security discussion section located under general forums, there's tons of info regarding how complex this all is. But basically, in order to send an update patch, it needs to be signed (you can't just fake the signature) and it must agree with the current bootloader. The way the bootloader is written, it simply won't allow a reversion back to earlier versions or it'll abort the boot.
An easier way to think of this is understanding that the changes made are preinstalled before the actual boot. There's no way for us to change this through normal methods as the emmc has to be written to directly. There is no way to do this from download or recovery mode. Wouldn't matter if you flashed it or used and update package, they are essentially the same thing.
So the only way to actually change the bootloader is to write to the emmc directly through use of the JTAG port. This changes the code of the entire bootloader before the boot and the phone will boot up with any version of the S3 bootloader you write.
2. I think I kind of answered that?
Hope it's clear.

BadUsername said:
I don't think shapes was trying to act negative at all, just stating the obvious. Nobody is going to try to unlock the Verizon S3, it's pretty much a dead end.
The unlock method used on the S5 will most likely work on this phone, but we need a developer CID to rewrite to the emmc as the series chip used on the S3 likely has the same vulnerability. This is what happened on the S5.
If you read some of the other posts (sounds like you have), we looked for an S3 developer edition but had no luck in tracking one down. For one, it's an incredibly old device. Secondly, you'd have to be semi retarded to purchase one as the original unlock method was around before the developer edition was released.
So yes, if you can find a developer S3 this will likely be an unlock method. It tricks the S3 into thinking it's a developer phone and unlocks the bootloader if the method to write it works the same as in the S5.
As for your questions,
1. I think you're underestimating the amount of security that goes into the bootloader itself. If you want to learn a lot about Android security in general, in the Android security discussion section located under general forums, there's tons of info regarding how complex this all is. But basically, in order to send an update patch, it needs to be signed (you can't just fake the signature) and it must agree with the current bootloader. The way the bootloader is written, it simply won't allow a reversion back to earlier versions or it'll abort the boot.
An easier way to think of this is understanding that the changes made are preinstalled before the actual boot. There's no way for us to change this through normal methods as the emmc has to be written to directly. There is no way to do this from download or recovery mode. Wouldn't matter if you flashed it or used and update package, they are essentially the same thing.
So the only way to actually change the bootloader is to write to the emmc directly through use of the JTAG port. This changes the code of the entire bootloader before the boot and the phone will boot up with any version of the S3 bootloader you write.
2. I think I kind of answered that?
Hope it's clear.
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Truthfully after being around the forums for as long as I have I'm really surprised there is any interest in unlocking this device at this point in time. There are just so many other options and unlocked vzw s3s are not that hard to come by.
And I wasn't being negative it's about being realistic. Thanks for sticking up for me brother
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Are there any updates to this by any chance, I am interested :C

any hope?