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Greets All,
I am sorry that I have to ask a few questions, only cause I really dont want to mess anything up, I got the phone about a week ago, and I have been reading alot of the different sections about rooting, and I see the different types of ways, and there is good replies and bad replies so I am a bit on the fence. I even got a CWR of this: att-inspire-rooted-signed.zip but I cant for the life of me find where I got it from. But let me ask the questions:
1) I want to keep the phone completely as is, I dont want to install another rom or anything right now, all I want to be able to do, is, remove the att software, and root the phone so that I can install the apk's I have on my sdcard. Do I have to go thru the whole hack kit or one click root and all that? Or is there a simple root and stay with the stock rom?
2) The file I mentioned: att-inspire-rooted-signed.zip I renamed it to update.zip, and then went into the bootloader, then recovery, obviously I got the phone with the red triangle thing, but hitting the up volume and the power button give me a CWR menu, and one of them is to install update from sdcard, but when I choose that zip it says about e:\cant open command folder blah, and then when I click update it says invalid operation. is that cause the phone isnt rooted?
3) If I have to root the phone, then which one will root it, but leabe everything intact if any? I dont want to change my radio, or the rom.
I am sorry if I am asking too much, but the rom has no sim at the moment and just playing with it everything works beautifully, even the gps works instantly because its properly using agps.
Thanks for the answers.
AngelDeath said:
Greets All,
I am sorry that I have to ask a few questions, only cause I really dont want to mess anything up, I got the phone about a week ago, and I have been reading alot of the different sections about rooting, and I see the different types of ways, and there is good replies and bad replies so I am a bit on the fence. I even got a CWR of this: att-inspire-rooted-signed.zip but I cant for the life of me find where I got it from. But let me ask the questions:
1) I want to keep the phone completely as is, I dont want to install another rom or anything right now, all I want to be able to do, is, remove the att software, and root the phone so that I can install the apk's I have on my sdcard. Do I have to go thru the whole hack kit or one click root and all that? Or is there a simple root and stay with the stock rom?
2) The file I mentioned: att-inspire-rooted-signed.zip I renamed it to update.zip, and then went into the bootloader, then recovery, obviously I got the phone with the red triangle thing, but hitting the up volume and the power button give me a CWR menu, and one of them is to install update from sdcard, but when I choose that zip it says about e:\cant open command folder blah, and then when I click update it says invalid operation. is that cause the phone isnt rooted?
3) If I have to root the phone, then which one will root it, but leabe everything intact if any? I dont want to change my radio, or the rom.
I am sorry if I am asking too much, but the rom has no sim at the moment and just playing with it everything works beautifully, even the gps works instantly because its properly using agps.
Thanks for the answers.
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If you want to remove the ATT bloatware you will have to root. You don't have to root to sideload. Just download the sideload wonder machine found in the dev section. As for rooting id suggest using the hack kit. Ive rooted 4 phones with it. First use the simple gold card maker. Then download the hack kit and follow the instructions in the read me file. Att1 has made it pretty simple. Then flash cleardroid stock rooted rom. All the bloatware is already removed. Its really stable. Good luck.
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What about the simple one click program instead of the hack kit?
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trell959 said:
What about the simple one click program instead of the hack kit?
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I have never used it myself so i cant give advice on it. That being said several thousand people have so im sure it will work fine.
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I'm glad you asked this question because I want to do the same thing I want to keep my phone stock and just root so I to can delete ATT crap and to edit my build.prop file because ATT pissed me off today telling me my speeds are slower than my friends 3gs because his has more storage space. Wtf. We ran speedtest app on both Phones to the same server and every single time his ran double or more on download speeds. ATT told me its the device doing it. IPhone fan boys is all I can say.
Anyway is there a easy way. I rooted my old aria with the unrevoked root. Super easy. Does the inspire have a easy way.
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I'm glad you asked this question because I want to do the same thing I want to keep my phone stock and just root so I to can delete ATT crap and to edit my build.prop file because ATT pissed me off today telling me my speeds are slower than my friends 3gs because his has more storage space. Wtf. We ran speedtest app on both Phones to the same server and every single time his ran double or more on download speeds. ATT told me its the device doing it. IPhone fan boys is all I can say.
Anyway is there a easy way. I rooted my old aria with the unrevoked root. Super easy. Does the inspire have a easy way.
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No true one click. I find the hack kit to be the best for me.
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I used bubby's one click method. Very simple, and there is a youtube video of it as well. Watch the entire video first so you have an idea of whats going on then go through the video while rooting. (not, downplaying the hack kit, i have never tried it) And for what its worth i too wanted a stock rom and chose Two pump chumps rom (Its a stock inspire rom -bloatware and improved a bit) and lee droids kernel, which gives a slight sound boost and smooths things a bit more imho. Good luck.
So if I do the root do you have to flash a Rom to delete bloatware? If I have to do a ROM the one posted above will it have sound issues etc? Thanks a ton.
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should be receiving my Inspire tomorrow....coming from the captivate section, this is definitely a little different. I have a quick question though...
The hack kit is used to enable s-off, temp-root, flash a rom that allows use of an old exploit, then permaroot. Once permarooted and CWM recovery has been flashed, any rom from the dev section can be flashed which will keep the root.
My question is, this process only has to be done once, correct?? All future roms will be flashed via CWM recovery, and there won't be ANY need to return to the stock ATT Inspire, unrooted rom??
I ask because with the Galaxy S/Captivate/etc it is usually recommended to flash back to stock before flashing a different custom rom, which means you lose root. I usually didn't that, and never had a problem, but i'm just trying to get a grasp on how this process differs from the Captivate. I will be GLAD to have a phone that can simply be cleared and flashed via CWM for all rom purposes.
All i know is bubby's method, and with it, it gives you root but its just like when you bought it. Now i think you can use clockwork mod or something to manually delete the bloat from there, but for the trouble its easier to flash a new rom that has it already done for you, and get a few bonuses with it. The one i suggested has given me no problems and is a ton faster than it was stock, although your phone may be different.
My question is, this process only has to be done once, correct?? All future roms will be flashed via CWM recovery, and there won't be ANY need to return to the stock ATT Inspire, unrooted rom??
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yes, the only need to go back is if you have to do a warranty return. Technically rooting voids the warranty, but if you undo it whos to know the difference
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yes, the only need to go back is if you have to do a warranty return. Technically rooting voids the warranty, but if you undo it whos to know the difference
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i actually meant to say "won't need to return to stock unless for warranty"...but yes i gotcha! thanks.
Like i said, although the Captivate seems more "open" or easier to root and such...in the end, this is going to be a MUCH better flashing technique compared to samsung phones. Everyone is always so worried about flashing to stock, doing this, doing that....
i guess i do have one last question....
it seems to be disputable at whether or not you need to do a factory reset/clear data within the CWM recovery during a new flash. When is it necessary and when can this be skipped?
Anytime your flashing a rom you need to do a full wipe, a benefit of CWM is it gives you the option when you start to flash anything to do one of 2 things A: being backup current rom, and B:full wipe.
So assuming you have a good backup already (if not do a backup before this step), just check the box for a full wipe and let it do the magic.
After getting the rom you want and you just want to flash a kernel, batterymod, etc then you only want to make a backup, you will not need to wipe at that point.
sounds good...thanks for all the help, Bamatide. Roll Tide!
I think i was just confused with the update process from within a rom, in which most dev's say it is ok to not wipe data in between updates. Flashing to a different rom requires the full wipe though everytime.
Just curious, but what happens if a full wipe is NOT done in between flashes? Is it just buggy or are there other problems?
The reason for a full wipe is because there could be conflicts between the two rom's where you could end up with just a bootloop and then you would need to do a wipe.
If you want there is a very simple way to do a full wipe, go to this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996383 and download the zip, this makes it very simple to do. I keep it on my sd card because I like to change rom's and this makes it very easy.
As for rooting I have tried both programs and found that Bubby's was the easy way to go, with the hack kit you have to be able to use the command prompt on the computer and with Bubby's it does it for you. I am not a whiz with command prompt that is why I did not use the hack kit.
I hope this helps especially the one click wipe, it work's great.
So with buddy's do you have to make the gold card what ever that is lol. I didn't have to do anything like that on my old aria and was curious. Also can someone make a sticky that explains what s-off is and what radio s-off etc. I didn't have any of that on my aria and I would like to know what they mean.
And to the op I'm sorry to thread jack but it was the exact same question I had. Hope you don't mind I'm asking on top of yours.
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So with buddy's do you have to make the gold card what ever that is lol. I didn't have to do anything like that on my old aria and was curious. Also can someone make a sticky that explains what s-off is and what radio s-off etc. I didn't have any of that on my aria and I would like to know what they mean.
And to the op I'm sorry to thread jack but it was the exact same question I had. Hope you don't mind I'm asking on top of yours.
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Don't be sorry most of us would rather you search then start a new thread. As for which method to use, essentially they are the same except the "one click" does most of the dos commands for you. Both downgrade your rom and radio and use that as an exploit, to root and s-off the phone.
Now problems people run into, there still seems to be a problem with CWM and the one click. For this reason I will recommend the Hack Kit, its nothing against bubby but it is sad to see the same "cwm blank screen" thread resurrected everyday.
Essentially s-on is Security on meaning you cannot flash unsigned roms. Radio s-off essentially allows you to flash custom roms. To flash a stock rooted rom you will need s-off.
With both methods you will need a gold card.
S-off also does away with the Gold card, once you get S-off you can format the SD card be done with it.
mudknot2005 said:
Don't be sorry most of us would rather you search then start a new thread. As for which method to use, essentially they are the same except the "one click" does most of the dos commands for you. Both downgrade your rom and radio and use that as an exploit, to root and s-off the phone.
Now problems people run into, there still seems to be a problem with CWM and the one click. For this reason I will recommend the Hack Kit, its nothing against bubby but it is sad to see the same "cwm blank screen" thread resurrected everyday.
Essentially s-on is Security on meaning you cannot flash unsigned roms. Radio s-off essentially allows you to flash custom roms. To flash a stock rooted rom you will need s-off.
With both methods you will need a gold card.
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Awesome thanks for the explanation.
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Hi,
I know it sounds weird, but I've noticed that there are numerous uses reported something doesn't work after flashing a ROM. So I was wondering if I can just root my phone without flashing a new ROM. So basically what I asked is to do the root with my current stock ROM.
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happyaray said:
Hi,
I know it sounds weird, but I've noticed that there are numerous uses reported something doesn't work after flashing a ROM. So I was wondering if I can just root my phone without flashing a new ROM. So basically what I asked is to do the root with my current stock ROM.
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Just flash a stock rooted rom.
Yes all you would do is root and it will still be stock. No problems at all. But I would recomend turning off the setting that searches for updates because being rooted and accepting ota updates does some funky things to your phone from what I've heard.
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You don't have to flash a stock rom after rooting. Rooting doesn't do anything to the stock rom on your phone in terms of having to flash something else.
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You don't have to flash a stock rom after rooting. Rooting doesn't do anything to the stock rom on your phone in terms of having to flash something else.
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Technically the rooting process itself flashes a downgraded ROM in order to do the root. It then flashes the stock ROM over that (at least Bubbys tool does, I'm not sure about what the hack kit does, as I haven't used it personally).
So just the act of rooting does indeed flash over whatever is on your phone prior to rooting. There is no root for this phone without flashing taking place.
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Thanks Scott.
So no matter what if I would like to achieve the same thing then I would do flash a stocked ROM.
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happyaray said:
Thanks Scott.
So no matter what if I would like to achieve the same thing then I would do flash a stocked ROM.
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Well at the very least, you want the stock ROM, as the initial ROM that MUST be flashed in order to achieve root is a downgraded ROM in which you will have no sound (it's from the Desire, near-identical phone, but incompatible radios).
This is only temporary, as long as you finish the process.
The thing is, at least with Bubbys simple root method, putting the stock ROM back on is done for you, assuming you fully complete the process.
What you end up with, when it's all said-and-done, is a stock, rooted ROM, at which point you can leave it stock, or proceed to flash one of the many available custom roms.
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My previous phone was an HTC Aria, and it's the only phone I flashed a custom ROM to before getting this Inspire 4G (which I am considering rooting). On the Aria, after flashing a custom ROM to the phone, I had to start over entering all of my account usernames & passwords, installing the apps I wanted, etc. It took a long time to get the phone back to where I wanted it, but it was worth it to get the wi-fi hotspot feature.
If I root my Inspire using Bubby's simple root method, but don't do anything else, will I have to start from scratch again with installing the apps, entering credentials for all of the services I use (basically a fresh out of-the-box experience)?
Don't use bubby's. It hasn't been supported in several months, and it will not work if your phone has GB. The best and only way to root is using the Ace Hack Kit. Just make sure you read and follow the instructions.
BTW: A little search and reading would have given you the answer to your question. Not to be nasty about it, but it makes the Devs life easier and they are the reason this site exists.
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My previous phone was an HTC Aria, and it's the only phone I flashed a custom ROM to before getting this Inspire 4G (which I am considering rooting). On the Aria, after flashing a custom ROM to the phone, I had to start over entering all of my account usernames & passwords, installing the apps I wanted, etc. It took a long time to get the phone back to where I wanted it, but it was worth it to get the wi-fi hotspot feature.
If I root my Inspire using Bubby's simple root method, but don't do anything else, will I have to start from scratch again with installing the apps, entering credentials for all of the services I use (basically a fresh out of-the-box experience)?
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Wow, I can't even believe I'm going to say this again to someone, well actually I can but YOU NEED TO READ!!!! Please do your research before asking a question. I'm happy you didn't start a new thread but a little annoyed you dug up a 5 month old thread to ask a question that can be answered by searching!!!First issue, do not use Bubby's, what part of outdated is confusing. Please take a stroll over to the dev section and see the hack kit thread. read that sucker. than take a moment to let it sink in, then read it again to fully understand it. Please do your research so you don't destroy your phone.
Yea thats what my friend did, he rooted but stayed on the stock rom
Hi all.
I am a programmer and I haven't Android phone yet but I am going to buy it.
My goal is get full access to all the phone's resources so I can test and install applications which might need admin rights (and also my self-made applications).
I have read many stories and tutorials about rooting but most of them involve flashing a custom ROM or flashing the bootloader. I know that messing up with a bootloader is always a bit risky.
So the question is -
is there any phone which allows to set and unset root permissions without reflashing the complete ROM firmware or even worse - the bootloader?
P.S. Please, do not suggest official Google Developer phones, I haven't seen them in my country...
Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Weird ... was it so difficult question? Anyway, I hope some experienced modder will take a look on this question.
For now I found only that Samsung Galaxy is pretty simple to root, no obvious bootloader or ROM reflashing, just some mystical update.zip. But I have no idea - maybe this update.zip contains modified bootloader?
There is root software for many phones that doesn't require flashing a custom rom. flashing a bootloader is quite rare. Rooting basically involves installing busybox and sudo.
Go look up what phones you like and then read about what 1click root methods are available, if any.
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Hm... and what about that S-OFF thing for HTC Desire phones? Doesn't setting S-OFF mean doing something with the bootloader?
Also according to SonyEricsson, to flash custom ROMs with root access, it is needed to unlock the bootloader:
unlockbootloader.sonyericsson.com
Most HTC phones come with a locked bootloader, so you have to make it S(ecurity)-Off.
All the galaxy S line phones are extemely easy to root, and hard to perm-brick.
If it has 2e recovery you can use an update.zip (it just copies superuser and stuff).
If you are on 2.2 then you need to use an exploit like z4root or super1click.
If you ever soft-brick get to download mode and odin flash stock. The only way to perm-brick is with a bad bootloader flash (only needed for ginger leaks, and flash stock).
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The simpliest phone to root is The x10i
There are many ROMs and great tools,ideas and developers!
Buy an x10i !!!!!!!
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I bought a DS a few days ago and found a few apps require rooting, I am running a complete stock rom (whatever that means) 2.3.3 and I have tried using SuperOneClick, but have always been stuck at Waiting For Device... as the program just freezes, can anyone help!!
if you need temporary root try Gingerbreak (link here). It have to give you root until rebooting
I want a permanent root, as I am re booting my ds nearon everyday, so the temp root is hopeless for me. Can anyone else help?
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I want a permanent root, as I am re booting my ds nearon everyday, so the temp root is hopeless for me. Can anyone else help?
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Ok. It was not making sense otherwise...
Remember - once you decide to change your original software you are continuing on your own risk. All the procedures are done multiple times and verified by the community here, but there is always a chance to screw thing up. Going to this for a few apps that require rooting - your call
For permanent root you have to "unlock" your phone for custom software first. This can be done with the Revolutionary tool and will void your warranty (but is the only way to gain permanent root). You can veryify this on the SuperOneClick thread - look for Nandroid lock.
Then you have the following options:
if you want to keep your current ROM use SuperOneClick. This will give you full root and keep your apps and data intact
replace your "completely stock rom" with some of these or this one. Which one to pick is up to you. (the ROMs in the first thread are with Sense 2.1, the other is the latest Stock with Sense 3.0) They will give you permanent root and "completely stock ROM" experience
flash any custom rom (you can pick from here). This will give you permanent root as well and custom goodies
Happy flashing
One extra thing to mention is if you decide to permanent root your ds is definately get Rom manager and I would even spend a lil bit of money for the premium. It's perfect for making those essential backups of your Rom just incase something goes wrong with flashing a new rom or keyboard. Have fun.
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If i wantes to s-on would i be able to turn it back on?
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If i wantes to s-on would i be able to turn it back on?
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Hey man there are a bunch of Sticky Index threads where everything is explained:
Example (all your questions are answered there):
[GUIDE] A Complete Tutorial for the Beginners and Others
Seriously, a quick search first wouldn't hurt wouldn't it?
And I'm pretty sure A LOT of the stickies on the forum WILL answer your question first hand.
Hi Everyone,
I have had my XT925 for a few years now and I usually come on XDA and check out whats happening on here.
I have finally reached the point where my phone has slowed down to a snails pace.
So in order to breath new life into it I am hoping to install a custom rom but I am so lost it is not even funny.
I have tried doing research but there is just so much out there and I am feeling lost. (Sorry to be a noob)
I am hoping someone can help me out with the questions I have.
1. I have a Fido (Rogers) XT925, it is my understanding that if I go to Motorola's website I can unlock the bootloader there (not that I really know what that does as of yet)
2. After I unlock the bootloader, do I then need to root first? or do I install a Custom Recovery? What do I install? I am very lost at this point.
3. After that I assume that the rest is pretty easy I either install CM11 or Slimkat from what I am reading.
Again any help is greatly appreciated. I am fairly technical but the most I have done to this phone is root it a while back (I lost root since, I got stuck in a boot loop)
Thanks again ahead of time!
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Hi Everyone,
I have had my XT925 for a few years now and I usually come on XDA and check out whats happening on here.
I have finally reached the point where my phone has slowed down to a snails pace.
So in order to breath new life into it I am hoping to install a custom rom but I am so lost it is not even funny.
I have tried doing research but there is just so much out there and I am feeling lost. (Sorry to be a noob)
I am hoping someone can help me out with the questions I have.
1. I have a Fido (Rogers) XT925, it is my understanding that if I go to Motorola's website I can unlock the bootloader there (not that I really know what that does as of yet)
2. After I unlock the bootloader, do I then need to root first? or do I install a Custom Recovery? What do I install? I am very lost at this point.
3. After that I assume that the rest is pretty easy I either install CM11 or Slimkat from what I am reading.
Again any help is greatly appreciated. I am fairly technical but the most I have done to this phone is root it a while back (I lost root since, I got stuck in a boot loop)
Thanks again ahead of time!
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if your phone was running acceptably some time ago, a simple factory reset (after you backup data!!!) will get it back to that condition.
or you can go the custom route. answers to your questions below.
1. yes
2. the recovery you need will depend on weather you are on JB or KK now. both can be found in the dev or orig dev forums. after install you can flash a su zip from the new recovery to gain root.
3. if you are on JB now you will need a JB base rom, if you are on KK now you will need a KK base rom. where it can get confusing is, just because it says in the rom 4.4 or whatever, that doesent necessarily mean the base it KK although it can be.
Okay thank you going to attempt tonight but don't be surprised if there is a post later on saying help I bricked my phone
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Also if anyone wants to help me step by step on Skype or something in an hour or two I would be very grateful!
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