I'm giving this thing a trial run as a desktop replacement. As such, I keep the dock jacked into power, LAN, USB hub, HDMI monitor and a set of desktop speakers pretty much all day. There are several things that really kill Android as a true multi-tasking device suitable for this type of work, but nothing is as annoying as the audible POP you hear when the internal amplifier turns itself on and off. I'm assuming this is a power-saving mechanism which makes sense, but it drives me crazy! I typically do not notice this sound with headphones... only powered external speakers. Anyone experience this and have a work around? I'm thinking my only option is to switch to USB audio.
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I'm giving this thing a trial run as a desktop replacement. As such, I keep the dock jacked into power, LAN, USB hub, HDMI monitor and a set of desktop speakers pretty much all day. There are several things that really kill Android as a true multi-tasking device suitable for this type of work, but nothing is as annoying as the audible POP you hear when the internal amplifier turns itself on and off. I'm assuming this is a power-saving mechanism which makes sense, but it drives me crazy! I typically do not notice this sound with headphones... only powered external speakers. Anyone experience this and have a work around? I'm thinking my only option is to switch to USB audio.
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The popping sound would be annoying, but I'm interested to hear about how the rest of the experiment is going. Is there anything really important that you can't do, or can't do well enough with your current set-up? I ask because with JB and the CleanRom and some browser tweaks, this thing is way faster than either my work or home desktops (not top of the line, mind you). I'd love to make it do more for me...I think it's capable of a lot. Oh, are you printing from it, too?
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The popping sound would be annoying, but I'm interested to hear about how the rest of the experiment is going. Is there anything really important that you can't do, or can't do well enough with your current set-up? I ask because with JB and the CleanRom and some browser tweaks, this thing is way faster than either my work or home desktops (not top of the line, mind you). I'd love to make it do more for me...I think it's capable of a lot. Oh, are you printing from it, too?
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I'm using this thing for everything from e-mail (mix of gapps and exchange), RPD into client computers and basic word processing and spreadsheeting. I started this experience after the JB update w/ a factory reset. I haven't re-installed the printing solution yet, but before I wiped ICS it appeared PrintHand was promising. My biggest complaint so far is the lack of a window manager or even basic dual head support in order to utilize my wide-screen HDMI monitor for true multi-tasking. Floating apps are nice, but there is a limited selection and they are really not a true solution anyway. Other than that, just getting used to a different work flow is the biggest challenge. Check back sometime end of this week or beginning of next. I'll post my complete findings in the General forum.
GaryParr said:
I'm using this thing for everything from e-mail (mix of gapps and exchange), RPD into client computers and basic word processing and spreadsheeting. I started this experience after the JB update w/ a factory reset. I haven't re-installed the printing solution yet, but before I wiped ICS it appeared PrintHand was promising. My biggest complaint so far is the lack of a window manager or even basic dual head support in order to utilize my wide-screen HDMI monitor for true multi-tasking. Floating apps are nice, but there is a limited selection and they are really not a true solution anyway. Other than that, just getting used to a different work flow is the biggest challenge. Check back sometime end of this week or beginning of next. I'll post my complete findings in the General forum.
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Excellent!
Thanks. (Ran out of thanks for the day) I'll hit you up in the General thread.)
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One thing that's annoyed me for a while now is that every time i plug in a serial/gps cable activesync thinks it's a PC connection and pops up. After a while it times out and lets me get on with things but i wondered how easy it would be to disable it. So i wrote a tiny, free app to do it. It's XSCALE/ARM compatable and PPC2003. No idea if it works on other devices. Anyway, in case it's useful to you, here it is.
Simply drop the app on your device and run it.
Was fun, as i'm a Win32 dev by trade and haven't ever looked at embedded VC++ before
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It's XSCALE/ARM compatable and PPC2003. No idea if it works on other devices
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it would not run on mips and thoser other old cpus since they are not code compatible but then non of the pdas people come here for support for use those
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It's XSCALE/ARM compatable and PPC2003. No idea if it works on other devices
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it would not run on mips and thoser other old cpus since they are not code compatible but then non of the pdas people come here for support for use those
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True enough, but as you say not of major concern for the ARM/XSCALE XDA folks here Seriously tho, it was really just for me - it's particularly annoying atm where my synch cable in the car has a habit of working loose, causing activesync to keep trying to connect right in the middle of sat nav (i use bluetooth gps now so i'm not interupted otherwise).
An improvement would be to disable a/s then launch tomtom/ POI warner in one swoop, and re-enable it once done. This version was knocked together in 2 mins tho to solve the problem on the way home from work today
well my problem is the other way around
if i keep my xda2 in the cradle and set it to manual sync only
then it does as it should and only sync just when i place it there
and dont bug me if i like want to play a game
but if i turn it off while it's in the cradle and the computer is on
then it auto turnon and sync
Why do they bother to still design tablets with the CPU/GPU on board? When I think about the future of windows with windows 8 I think about tablets being heavier to run the x86 architecture and I wonder why not just use something like intels widi and transmit only the picture to a tablet and have a server plugged in doing all the processing, maybe even running another instance or switchable session of the OS attached to a standard desktop display/keyboard mouse. The tablet would of course still need a processor but only to process a ready to go image, audio and to interpret touch inputs and transmit them to the server. This would allow for larger batteries and be much more cost effective in the long run.
Of course we will still need today's style for outside the home/office but like the desktop there is still a market for the LAN only machines.
Maybe this is already available and someone can point me to where I can buy it now! :x
You want the cloud? Not ready yet. Until then, splashtop will have to do. Also, botnet.
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You want the cloud? Not ready yet. Until then, splashtop will have to do. Also, botnet.
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No, nothing over the internet. I'm simply talking about a wireless display with a battery but one that can transmit touch inputs. Not sure how else to put it but if you have seen the wireless transmitter and receivers for HDMI, similar to this.
Does anyone see where I'm going with this? Windows 8 is touch screen but the best I could find that are desktop-like is the dell ST2220T which only has 2 touch points that is not cetified for windows 8 which I believe accepts up to 4.
Next I looked at tablets and there are a few budget(if you can call $500 with a small display, bad/slow graphics card and little storage budget) that look promising but could easily have 100 hardware issues that would drive me nuts and then theres the name brand stuff like samsungs $1,000 pc tablets which still suffer from built in gpu's that suck.
My idea would simply be the cost of a screen and battery if you already own a desktop with say, intel widi (wireless display) and some sort of input receiver to receive the touch commands from the tablet display. The performance would be virtually unlimited!
Are you basically talking about a device that connects through your local network to a transmitting PC running an OS of your choosing? Sort of like a portable monitor that doubles as a touchscreen?
Constant wifi or similar connection would drain the battery as well. Also, that would require a whole separate computer to run the system itself (if you're doing it at home), or a fast, VERY low latency broadband connection to a cloud (so forget about the device being very cheap just because you have to somehow pay for the server-side as well). Otherwise you'd be struggling with laggy UI which is the exact opposite of what everyone wants.
So... not for a few more years... or decades
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Are you basically talking about a device that connects through your local network to a transmitting PC running an OS of your choosing? Sort of like a portable monitor that doubles as a touchscreen?
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Like a portable monitor with touchscreen that transmits touch inputs/commands wirelessly back to the desktop just like a mouse.
I don't think transmitting through networks is a good idea and thats why I mentioned the Intel WIDI wireless display technology that is already in most new Inte'ls so all we would really need to change on the PC side is a customized wireless receiver for the touch inputs.
Hell, I'm thinking about calling a friend who is an EE and getting something made if nobody else is...lol.
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Constant wifi or similar connection would drain the battery as well. Also, that would require a whole separate computer to run the system itself (if you're doing it at home), or a fast, VERY low latency broadband connection to a cloud (so forget about the device being very cheap just because you have to somehow pay for the server-side as well). Otherwise you'd be struggling with laggy UI which is the exact opposite of what everyone wants.
So... not for a few more years... or decades
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Eh the technology is here with http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/architecture-and-technology/intel-wireless-display.html
Using wifi isn't efficient, but tablets use most of their energy on the display and processing. Since all you would be doing is signal processing vs actual computation @ the tablet end you would use considerably less juice. Like Half.
You are talking direct wireless connection from tablet to monitor, not going through a wireless router or connection? Interesting idea, but why not just go through a wireless connection? Wouldn't this also kind of tether you to your pc? Splashtop or Logmein allows you to do this anywhere.
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You are talking direct wireless connection from tablet to monitor, not going through a wireless router or connection? Interesting idea, but why not just go through a wireless connection? Wouldn't this also kind of tether you to your pc? Splashtop or Logmein allows you to do this anywhere.
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All I'm talking about is a PC or laptop with a second display thats wireless. Then we call it a tablet because it has a touch screen that sends signals back to the PC or laptop to move the mouse or rather gestures. Not cloud computing, I have done this and it's terrible. Cloud is basically remote desktop which is choppy and worse then current tablets. What I'm talking about would make the performance increase as Intel claims virtually no latency with WIDI and even 5 milliseconds would be hard to notice considering how laggy android is as it's basically a virtual machine.
Hereis a clip I just found, not sure if it's available yet but:
Now ASUS brings another solution to the table, the WiCast, which can be connected to any computer and any television and promises latency-free 1080p video and audio.
Hey everyone just got my shield I'm very pleasantly surprised by the quality of the gamepad. So I've run into an issue when I try to stream certain games that are supposed to be supported. What will happen is I choose a game i.e borderlands 2 and my computer goes to load but it gets stuck on a screen with the shield logo and the mouse will show loading but nothing will happen however when I try to stream through steam everything works just fine thank you guys in advance for helping out
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Hey everyone just got my shield I'm very pleasantly surprised by the quality of the gamepad. So I've run into an issue when I try to stream certain games that are supposed to be supported. What will happen is I choose a game i.e borderlands 2 and my computer goes to load but it gets stuck on a screen with the shield logo and the mouse will show loading but nothing will happen however when I try to stream through steam everything works just fine thank you guys in advance for helping out
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It's hard to understand what you are talking about here. If you can load through steam big picture, and it works more reliably, then just stick to using that. The individually supported games (outside of big picture mode) are a convenience in case you aren't logged in to steam, but ultimately, using Steam Big Picture on this is quick and works VERY well. Of course, there are bugs and kinks, but for BETA software, it's impressive. Occasionally, I find that the GeForce experience application will "lose" the streaming feature, and requires a computer reboot.
Also, I find it best to launch the PC streaming while in a strong wireless network environment (i.e., closer to your router), then move to a distance farther away. Launching and getting the initial sync seems to be very dependent on network strength initially...once launched, the setup seems to handle streaming glitches better.
For example, I generally have a hard time launching from my 3rd story bedroom so I move downstairs, launch, then head back up stairs and it works great. I have no idea why I can stream reliably upstairs, but often have trouble getting streaming to launch initially!
Thanks for taking time to help you seem to be picking up what I'm putting down I tried again the other day and it worked OK, the entire streaming seems a little inconsistent at times. Just out of curiosity would it be significantly more stable if the geforce PC was connected through a hard wire?
P.S I just got VPN working can't wait to try it out
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Thanks for taking time to help you seem to be picking up what I'm putting down I tried again the other day and it worked OK, the entire streaming seems a little inconsistent at times. Just out of curiosity would it be significantly more stable if the geforce PC was connected through a hard wire?
P.S I just got VPN working can't wait to try it out
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Way more reliable to use an ethernet cable yes. I personally believe a person should always attempt to go ethernet first and only use WiFi for devices which are by their nature portable or if there is no way to practically route a cable there. My desktop is shamefully on wifi as I would have to run the cable through the dining room, hall, up some stairs, across a hallway and across my room. Going through walls is not so much an option in a house thought to be 150 to 200 years old, however I do have thin walls so get a great WiFi signal at least.
WiFi has significantly higher latency than a hardwired ethernet cable.
Only advantage of wifi really is the lack of a cable. Makes things quite straightforward.
every time i try to stream it kicks me off the game shortly after it starts. i have the newest update and i have the newest drivers and steam beta, i even tried the optimus fix just in case. but games just won't stay connected. my pc is hardwired(1gbps). i'm thinking its my router which is saddening because it works nearly flawless for everything else in my house(the router). its N300 and gbps wired but its not 5ghz..
Hey guys,
I have just bought a few Wetek Play Android TV boxes.
Apart from a few other issues that I will not get into here, I have one very major problem. I have two of these devices in my home and the air mouse that comes with it (the remote control) controls both boxes at the same time. so they are not independant.
this means if I have a box in the lounge and a box in the bedroom, both of their remote controls control both boxes at the same time making it completely useless.
I have asked Wetek support for help on this but only to get a reply that they are aware of the issue but cant do anything about it yet. so suggested using my phone or a mouse and keyboard..
Well this kind of defeats the purpose of what I got these boxes for.
I just wanted to get a little info on how these things work, you guys are super switched on when it comes to all things tech so I am hoping to find something out.
How do these remotes work? is it a hardware or software thing that connects them to each other?
I did install CM12 hoping that it would somehow fix the problem but it still exists.
is there anyway of making it so these remotes are independant of each other and linked to just one box?
Thanks in advance
Ryan
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Hey guys,
I have just bought a few Wetek Play Android TV boxes.
Apart from a few other issues that I will not get into here, I have one very major problem. I have two of these devices in my home and the air mouse that comes with it (the remote control) controls both boxes at the same time. so they are not independant.
this means if I have a box in the lounge and a box in the bedroom, both of their remote controls control both boxes at the same time making it completely useless.
I have asked Wetek support for help on this but only to get a reply that they are aware of the issue but cant do anything about it yet. so suggested using my phone or a mouse and keyboard..
Well this kind of defeats the purpose of what I got these boxes for.
I just wanted to get a little info on how these things work, you guys are super switched on when it comes to all things tech so I am hoping to find something out.
How do these remotes work? is it a hardware or software thing that connects them to each other?
I did install CM12 hoping that it would somehow fix the problem but it still exists.
is there anyway of making it so these remotes are independant of each other and linked to just one box?
Thanks in advance
Ryan
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there is a solution but first you need to unsync the remotes, if you acomplish that them you are good to go, and resync one for each box, i do not know is how do you unsync them, to resync is box on standby and back + ok button till green light flash. if you get them unsync them remove power cord from 1 box and sync one at a time, after first is synced remove power cord from that one and sync the other, always have one without power that way the remote will not sync to both
Hey there! i was at my local store looking for a controller and came across the Steelseries Stratus Duo, i got it and brought it home hoping that it would work nicely with my phone, the exact opposite was true, i was using Bluetooth
and it had horrible lag and often times disconnected i tried to fix the lag and connection drops, nothing worked.
And sense this has no way to update firmware (at-least at the moment) on the Bluetooth side, i am not able to use it in that mode.
I have tested this on multiple devices, some carrying the bt 5.0 chip some with bt 4.2 and some with bt 4.1
the controller says it is using a Bt 4.1 chip (that's what it says on the box)
all exhibit the same issue's as noted above. most if not all are supposed to be compatible, but all of them are glitchy. with this controller.
So i was understandably disappointed, not wanting to return the controller,i tried out something, if you have ever used steam link app for android and plugged in a USB controller? if so the application will ask you if you want to use it with your device? you can choose yes or no, i tried it and was really surprised that it worked as well as it did, absolutely no issues with lag nor random connection drops.
just REALLY SOLID PERFORMANCE.
So, that gave me an idea, what if i made a stand alone application that allows us to use the included USB receiver with android?
and add extra functionality on top of it. such as emulating other controllers for better app compatibility.
I was looking for a driver or something that can pull access from that receiver. something i can integrate into my project.
As far as i know the controller is just seen as a Xbox 360 controller so i was wondering if there is a Pre-made driver for integration with apps, that would save me a lot of time and would simplify the process quite a bit.
The app will be free and will be given to people on my discord and on host sites.
Here's a link to the discord server i created.
nevermind its not letting me post links (thats fine)
I created the discord server because other people are having this issue as well.
and that's where all the progress will be recorded. also if you have this controller and are experiencing issues you can join too!
Any help would be greatly appreciated.