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Android or Windows Mobile ?

Hi,
im searchin for a new mobile... i wanted to buy it in the next 2 or 3 weeks, but there is a big problem:
i dunno what mobile would be the best for me :S
I am thinking about Windows mobile and Android ... The windows mobile phones i have used till now are quite nice, but no one really made me fully happy ... i always tried to port other interfaces and so on my lg ks20 and htc diamond.
i´ve seen that android has a quite nice interface with very good touch friendly options...
my windows mobile candidate would be of course the HTC Leo , what the android canditate would be is just open till now ...
I often browse in Wifi networks , like facebook, gmail, icq, etc. and therefor i am searching for an mobile with good browsing quality ... what camera there is ... i dont care about that crap ... just being comfortable in networks , chatting , sharing files and so on...
Hope you can help me ..
else any questions ? just post, i will directly answer.
See ya
Sallal
//EDIT: I saw now some androids and i think nexus one and desire are very good but , what is the difference between them ?

Hi,
In term of memory management Windows mobile is far way better and for the interface also you have a lot of ui for windows mobile that are now very close to the Android style that you are searching for(if not even better).
I first bought an HTC Hero and was very happy the first two months but then it became so boring because of that lack of programs for it.
Now I am on a Leo and I can assure you that the moment you will put this device in your hand,you will be impressed by his speed.
Hurry up before the HD3

what about the htc desire ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T4gEQKThsg
this video impressed me

Sense La Révolution for Windows Mobiles SPB Mobile Shell:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKzIT5DhUZA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QydHxYziKwY

Here it is in a nutshell,
Android is the new kid on the block, rough around the edges, not fully functional yet, short on apps, in dire need of updates, but with the genuine potential to be an actual iPhone killer ( hence Apple vs HTC suit solely filed to slow down Android ). Android is on it's way, but not going to be great until, after whatever Android phone you buy now, is old and tired.
Windows Mobile is tried and true, tons of free apps, full bluetooth functionality, full Exchange and Office functionality, easy to sync, fully customizable to your needs, but it is what it is and will not get any better. Whatever you buy now, will not be upgradeable to Windows Phone 7 Series, and WP7S would appear to be that " make it or break it " for
Windows Mobile.
In short ? Android = up and coming, but not quite there yet. Windows Mobile = Already mature, but could be on the down slide soon.
If you are living for today, Windows Mobile hands down. Come this fall ? Phones with Android 3.0 ? Windows Phone 7 Series ? Who knows.
The Nexus One is Googles Android device made by HTC, The Desire " was " the Droid Eris, but has since been reassigned to the HTC branded Nexus One.

@die_Leuchte: Danke für die videos, ich hab mich entschieden / Thanks for the Videos , now ive decided what to take
@denco7: i know it is a nutshell, but if i see what android showed on mwc for example, it seems that it has millions of apps and is just now the iphone killer ^^
just crap what they are sayin ?

sallal said:
@die_Leuchte: Danke für die videos, ich hab mich entschieden / Thanks for the Videos , now ive decided what to take
@denco7: i know it is a nutshell, but if i see what android showed on mwc for example, it seems that it has millions of apps and is just now the iphone killer ^^
just crap what they are sayin ?
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http://phandroid.com/2009/11/23/android-vs-windows-mobile/
Add to that limited Bluetooth capabilities and ( important to me ) limited M$ Exchange and Office capabilities it just isn't mature enough yet to be a serious multitasking phone for business.
Don't get me wrong, I think Android is the future of Mobile OS' . WP7s is going to have to do a lot to convince me otherwise. And I am leaning towards an Android phone after Android 3.0 and WP7s come out, just from what I have seen of Android 1.5, 1.6, 2.0 and 2.1 on the Nexus, I just still don't think that it is capable yet.

so you think that if you would buy a smartphone now, you would choose winmo...
if you could buy it in 2 years , you would choose maybe android ... right?

Do not be fooled by a shiny interface just like I was.Besides what you are seeing on an Android phone is the Sense UI made by HTC.
If I am not wrong the Nexus one doesn't have the Sense UI.
I am not telling that Android(in reality Linux) is not a good phone.On the contrary you will find it with very useful applications but in some cases just like what happened to me you will not have a wide range of choice for the same application.
For Ex:If you want a Virtual Keyboard,because Android is still new you will have only 2 or 3 keyboards(maybe there is more now) to choose from but on Windows Mobile you have more than 15 competitors to choose from with years of experience in that field .
So,
Android is for you if you can be satisfied with what you have.
Windows is for you if you are thirsty of applications
Hope this helped

thirsty guy
well, i always need to get more apps to have another quit unuseful thing on my mobile, like wifi router or so
then i take the leo ^^
EDIT: @forcefield: i recieved an email , that swype for android is out your problem is solved now

Here is a quote from another german forum
there is no "better" one, some like winmo and some android more ...
before i buyed my new phone i thinked about the hd2 and the milestone... i choosed the milestone and i dont regret nothing !
looking at the amount of apps i would choose android because its just much easier and uncomplicated .. with more apps than windows mobile.
i dont know whats the difference between the desire and the nexus one , but you can wait until they get on the german market to see more information..
pointing on the battery strength maybe its disapointing but i have to be honest, its normally just between 1 and 3 days depending on how you use your phone.
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i still think that windows mobile has more apps.. but the problem is , they are just widespread in the www.
battery: an issue what wont be solved in 500 years.
Original Post from http://www.handy-faq.de/forum/handyberatung/128679-suche_gutes_browsing_handy.html
Sry for the bad translation, it is freely made by me ^^

another question ... i you would have the choice between touch pro 2 aka rhodium and hd 2 aka leo , which one would you take ?
with reasons please =) ...
sallal

I'm suprised that no one has brought this up, but, if you got a Windows phone, don't you always have the option of running Android on it? I don't think it works the other way around. Please, PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong.

jadesdan said:
I'm suprised that no one has brought this up, but, if you got a Windows phone, don't you always have the option of running Android on it? I don't think it works the other way around. Please, PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong.
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Android proted to WM is still a port. It runs within WM and some of the features of Android don't work and some of the features of the phone won't work with the Android port. It will never be as fast or as smooth as Android running natively.
sallal said:
another question ... i you would have the choice between touch pro 2 aka rhodium and hd 2 aka leo , which one would you take ?
with reasons please =) ...
sallal
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I would take the Leo, faster processor, bigger more beautiful display, more ram. The only plus for the Rhodium is the slide out keyboard.
But just remember that neither phone is going to be upgradable to Windows Phone 7 Series.

of course take the LEO!!!
I own Touch Diamond 2 (which is basically like TP2 without the slide out keyboard) and it's really great and everything. But then I also have access to Samsung Omnia II with 800 Mhz CPU and it's running so much faster and more smoothy. And the big display is insane!! Then go figure because HD2 even comes with 1 GHz!!!! IMO it would be stupid to buy the OLD TP2 with only 528 Mhz.....

jadesdan said:
I'm suprised that no one has brought this up, but, if you got a Windows phone, don't you always have the option of running Android on it? I don't think it works the other way around. Please, PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong.
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No, there's no fully working Android version for any WM phone. They all have bugs and stuff not working.

[Q] Hero H7000

Hi,
Anyone bought chinese Hero H7000. I bought recently and I m having
some issues
1) I am unable to connect VPN
2) I have rooted the phone and after that I am unable to do factory reset.
3) How to take rom backup, so in case if i mess up with the phone I can
restore back from sd-card
Regards

No one ever bought H7000.
Any idea

shezad123 said:
No one ever bought H7000.
Any idea
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Google search
"guia instalando android adb interface em celulares chineses android debug bridge" (portuguese)
there is a link teaching how to install the drivers
OK
procura no google
"guia instalando android adb interface em celulares chineses android debug bridge"
lá tem um link ensinando como instalar os drivers
ok

Hi there:
So is it a good device the H7000 for serious development ? What is the feedback of the equipment ?
Cheers,

i'm also considering buying one from here:
http://www.mobile-phones.cn/hero-h7...ass-capacitive-touch-phone-p-5969.html?page=1
there are tons of reviews down the page but i'm not sure if those reviews are real and whether the website is trustworthy or not.......haven't really heard of the site before.
The specs seems to be pretty decent for that price, i'm considering selling my Motorola Milestone and use this instead since I would opt to go for a 4.3' screen over 3.7' any day.

It looks like it has just 3 buttons
Is it true that Android devices work with 4 buttons ?
Anyone has in his/her hand one of these ? Are you developing on it ?
Thanks

Poseidon2011 said:
Is it true that Android devices work with 4 buttons ?
Anyone has in his/her hand one of these ? Are you developing on it ?
Thanks
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No offense, but what kind of dumb question is that? Of course Android devices can work with many buttons. There shouldn't even be any limitations to how many buttons a device can use or have anyway.
The HTC HD2 can use Android fine, even though it's not native and officially supported but it runs Android really smoothly, and guess what the HD2 has 5 buttons.
Most Android devices now days have 4 or 5 capacitive buttons on them, while they're not physical buttons but they're still there.
Lastly, the Hero H7000 doesn't even have 5 buttons, it only has 3. It's a clone of the HTC HD7. Maybe look at it properly first...?
Also, since it's a chinese clone of the HD7 and not many people actually buy chinese clones like these, there is pretty much no development or support for it. Tons of chinese clones or knockoffs like these use the MTK6516 CPU. It's super slow since it's only 460Mhz. The main point is, almost all chinese cloned devices use that CPU, so it's only logical to think that someone might have added support on apps like SetCPU to include the MTK6516. But there isn't any support, no one could overclock this CPU yet.

I Were going to go buy a Hero1700. But see these posts, I must think about it wheather it is suitable to use or not.

Hero H7000
Hello ,
I am new to this so if anyone could help me please !!
I have bought H7000 Android 2.2 and trying to upgrade it to 2.3.1 with FG8 Android 2.3.1 and SP Flash Tool exe_v1.1052.03 .
I tried with several roms like A601FY_Flash_V2.04_20110328 , A601FY_Flash(MT29C4G48MAZAPAKD-5IT)_LCD(1P3692-W1)_sensor(SET130B)_V2.03_20110321.7z and A601FY_V5_Flash(toshibahynix)_LCD(1P3692-W1+W350370AAA)_sensor(SET130B)_V2.16_20110902 .
(previously I have rooted the device with Z4 from market)
the installation is completed successfully but when trying to boot the device - I have a black screen , I here the HTC starting sound , after about 2 - 3 minutes the 3 front buttons are on and that's it - black screen . If I press the Power button it only lights the 3 buttons and press it again it turns them off ....
If anyone see this post please reply !!
Thank You Anyway ...

I brought this phone from second hand (local phone store ) it is useless piece of...uh...rooted it changed dpi so doesnt lag so much nut is's good only for wifi hotspot (root) ..really as you say- can not connect to vpn, no oc, no flashing ._.
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Moved to General Q&A.

Samsung Omnia w

Hey guys is there any rom which will work on samsung omnia w. I updated my To Tango. i cant even jailbreak because my diagnosis ver is 1109. i tried to deploy different diag app via students acc but that is also not working... plsss help

I also have an Omnia W my friend but this seems to be the forgotten Omnia.
The phone did not seem to have a lot of fanfare when released and then came the Nokia Lumia handsets and they seem to take over and now the Windows 7.8 and 8.0 and all that stuff.
So to answer your question outside of Windowbreak and other 3rd party applications that can give you some customisation that is it for this phone.
There are no custom ROMs for this handset and I doubt there will ever be.
LL13-

lamplighter13 said:
There are no custom ROMs for this handset and I doubt there will ever be.
LL13-
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(falls to his knees)
NNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=28823558#post28823558

I certainly do hope I will be proven wrong though. I wish I had the knowledge to cook up something nice but way way out of my league !!
LL13-

Ya i know .. lumia mobiles getting solution but this omnia w which is much better than 710 has not got any solution yet....i updated my phone. i dont even have backup... it tango... chevron,windowsbreak or other methods doesnt work. i am not happy wid developers . they r busy in making solution for nokia and HTC ....

[Q] hate my lumia 710??

Hi all
I recently switch from HTC wildfire S to Lumia 710.
I hated the battery life in android and I missed ... I don't know what I have missed
anyways, I got lumia 710 and Im dissapointed?
is there any way I can change Menu to TOTALLY customized? The choices that nokia is giving me on the phone aren't satysfying, are rather upsetting.
I miss the android customization. is there any similiar application/system I can put on the Lumia and enjoy it more?
I'm new to this forum so would be grateful for pointers and simpliest instructions where to go and what to do..
thanks alot.
ani_mal

No, you can not change very windows phone 7, since it is a closed operating system. Android is more customizable due to its open source nature
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U should flash ur phone. It gives u many options to modify start screen for example.
And with 710 flashing is pretty simple to do.
Newest 7.8 works like a charm including all features what original rom has and more (zune, navigator, maps, internet sharing and so on)

At&t HTC hd7s wp7.8 wp8 updates?

Hello to all!
I own an HTC hd7s from at&t running wp7.5. The only tweak I've done to this phone is the sd card upgrade to 32gb. Everything else is factory stock.
My question is does anyone knows if at&t will be releasing the 7.8 update for this device? I would like to keep it legit....
But if no plans are out there for updates for this device I'll be more than willing to hack away this phone.
So in my willingness to hack the hd7s, are there any roms being cooked for this device to upgrade to 7.8 or wp8?
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dakine73 said:
Hello to all!
I own an HTC hd7s from at&t running wp7.5. The only tweak I've done to this phone is the sd card upgrade to 32gb. Everything else is factory stock.
My question is does anyone knows if at&t will be releasing the 7.8 update for this device? I would like to keep it legit....
But if no plans are out there for updates for this device I'll be more than willing to hack away this phone.
So in my willingness to hack the hd7s, are there any roms being cooked for this device to upgrade to 7.8 or wp8?
Sent from my T9295 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
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No one knows the plans of ATT man. I myself don't think there will be anything for us officially (HTC Titan here). But seeing that the 7.8 update was pulled from MS and Nokia's servers (due some issues with 7.8), you might be waiting for an additional amount of time. But like I said, I don't think the update will be officially released for the other phones on ATT. Like always, the other OEMS (Samsung/HTC) haven't pushed the US carriers into giving its users updates.

Some questions from greece!
xconomicron said:
No one knows the plans of ATT man. I myself don't think there will be anything for us officially (HTC Titan here). But seeing that the 7.8 update was pulled from MS and Nokia's servers (due some issues with 7.8), you might be waiting for an additional amount of time. But like I said, I don't think the update will be officially released for the other phones on ATT. Like always, the other OEMS (Samsung/HTC) haven't pushed the US carriers into giving its users updates.
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Dear
I have Hd2 ,a special smartphone ,but PURCHASED a faster newer the TITAN [WP7.5] .Very fast in INTERNET and very lovely for teenagers
NOT FOR ME . I need a smartphone= moving office .WP is not . Please look some questions :
1. how can upgrade memory to 32gb and how much cost it ? Can I to remove 16gb and insert 32 gb ? So simple ?
2. How to edit office files ? I mean excel-word-pps 2003-7 or 1997
3.I want to can put any file in internal memory .How ? I don't want to upload to skydive or anywhere and to download later...
4.I download via internet Vodafone ,example , today's FT paper .I pay for it .If I send it to Skype AND 20 DAYS LATER i want to read again I will pay again to download ? Logic says YES . It is true ?
5. How to save ,save as ,files to internal memory and how to browser files ? File manager ?
6.I want to do a travel from Athens to Berlin .I WANT TO USE igo8 navigation programs or Google or any-other . can I ?
7.I want the rings tones from my home coming calling to me to be my dogs cry . can I ?
.8.SOS .Please explain ,step by step ,how to transfer my contacts from wm6.5 HD2 to WP7.5 TITAN ? I done backup [contacts.scv] but in excel cant edit .Remember texts is in Greek!
9. Can anyone FLASH IN TITAN wm6.5 rom ? How ?
TOOO MANY THANKS
dionisis

Depetro...
You can purchase a 32gb micro Sd card for about $20.00 us dollars. The process is very simple. You can find videos on YouTube that show you how to do this. Make sure you back up your data
For the rest of your questions.... I don't know...
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Why you people want to screw your mind with this topic?
Just install Deepshining V8.0 or Dynamics V2.0, they work on the HD7 and the HD7S with no problems...
and get done with this "update issue", when the chefs create a new ROM based on the new update, then it's moment to update the ROM...
Pretty easy...

Thanks faustolg, now question those roms will update to what version of WP?
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8858 I believe
Sent from my Lumia 900 using Board Express

Both are the same ROM version
7.10.8858.136
there are minor ("proprietary") differences, is up to you what ROM you'll keep.
Both are compatible with WP Backup, Windows Phone Device Manager + TouchXperience, but Dynamics is the only one that is Cab Sender compatible...

A few dates ago I found a nice piece of software called "seveneighter" it automates the WP 7.8 update. And viola! 45 minutes later my HTC hd7s is now WP 7.8!
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