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[Q] Install Apps on MicroSD/SD

Has there been any announcement on the ability to install apps on the external media on the TF? It seems strange that this is possible for Android 2.2, but not 3.0.

I think this is mostly due to the fluid state of the partitions of the operating system in 3.0 On 2.x the /system and /data are set sizes so to free up some some space for more apps. On 3.x if more space is needed, it alloactes more space so app2sd is not needed

I guess in honeycomb you don't really need app2sd any more... you already have the whole 16gb available for apps

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i bought the 16gb version and a 32gb microsd card thinking it would be a cheaper way to have more storage. Instead it seems the external storage doesn't serve much of a purpose leaving me a little disappointed. I assumed Android was already supporting multiple storage locations but I guess that was removed in 3.0. Ideally I would love to be able to use Gallery to sync my picasa albums but if I did that I would end up with no free space on the main drive.

Gallery and most apps that came installed on the transformer have no problem scanning the microsd. Also more and more apps are letting you manually choose where you can have the information located (moboplayer, titanium backup). I hooked up a 1tb external drive with 600 Gb of music and movies and had no problem playing any of them. But boy did that suck the battery down quick.
I guess it depends on what your trying to do, if nothing else send an email to the developer and ask them if they could add support for additional locations

I know some custom ROMs for other tablets have offered optional methods for changing the mount points of internal and external storage. For example, setting the external card to mount at /sdcard and leaving internal storage for /Removable/microSD. I asked about this in dev forum last week but no takers.
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With 3.0 google finally got smart. Apps are installed to your internal memory the same as everything else. So you have 16/32GB for apps and everything else, and then you have your SD card in addition to that.
So having all that internal memory makes Apps2SD useless.
You'll see froyo apps2sd in ice cream sandwich most likely for older devices most likely, but in honeycomb it's gone.

Wait what? So does this mean you cannot install apps you download from the market on the microsd?

stcardinal said:
Wait what? So does this mean you cannot install apps you download from the market on the microsd?
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No you cannot - though why would you need to? Unlike earlier versions of Android, you don't have a fixed partition size to install apps to, so A2SD is largely pointless (in my opinion anyway - your mileage may vary!).
Regards,
Dave

lordgodgeneral said:
Gallery and most apps that came installed on the transformer have no problem scanning the microsd. Also more and more apps are letting you manually choose where you can have the information located (moboplayer, titanium backup). I hooked up a 1tb external drive with 600 Gb of music and movies and had no problem playing any of them. But boy did that suck the battery down quick.
I guess it depends on what your trying to do, if nothing else send an email to the developer and ask them if they could add support for additional locations
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With Gallery my issue is that I have all my photos online with Picasa, so I take advantage of the 'Offline' option to auto download some of my photos. The problem is I have no control over where these offline folders are stored, and it would be impossible for me to have all my photos available offline on the internal storage.
I am surprised at the lack of control over where I can store stuff, but I guess its better than not even having the option for external storage like IOS devices. Currently though it appears that I purchased a MicroSD card for nothing as it doesn't fit my needs.

Worst case scenario: if you have root, you could replace the directory Gallery uses for the Offline photos with a symlink to a directory on the (micro)SD Card. You might need to put a ".nomedia" file in that directory (to keep the media scanner from indexing those files and thinking they should /also/ be in the gallery), but it'll work long as you leave the sdcard in whenever Gallery is open.

magicpork said:
I guess in honeycomb you don't really need app2sd any more... you already have the whole 16gb available for apps
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That's great! I always hated worrying about whether something was installed on the current SD card.

magicpork said:
I guess in honeycomb you don't really need app2sd any more... you already have the whole 16gb available for apps
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(I'm Not having a go at the above poster).
Thats all well and good but if you use Googlemaps (Navigation) with the offline maps ala Htc Desire and others You can quickly use several gig of space.
add to that Copilot maps 2.5Gb or Aura 2.2Gb and that 16Gb dosn't seem so big, lol..
I bought a 32Gb SD Card for the Dock and now know that its a waste of time as you have to manually open any music or films as they dont appear in the Gallery etc.
I also bought a 32Gb Micro SD Card for the tablet which is where I want to put Downloads and the Gallery Also the Navigation Maps. But the apps wont see the data so again why have them.
So all in all extra storage appears to be a waste of time.
Hopefully some of the Guru's here can sort this out as Its crazy to have all this available space and not be able to use it.

foxmeister said:
No you cannot - though why would you need to? Unlike earlier versions of Android, you don't have a fixed partition size to install apps to, so A2SD is largely pointless (in my opinion anyway - your mileage may vary!).
Regards,
Dave
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640kb should be enough for anybody.
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AlexTheStampede said:
640kb should be enough for anybody.
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It was, at the time!
Regards,
Dave

jjal09 said:
With Gallery my issue is that I have all my photos online with Picasa, so I take advantage of the 'Offline' option to auto download some of my photos. The problem is I have no control over where these offline folders are stored, and it would be impossible for me to have all my photos available offline on the internal storage.
I am surprised at the lack of control over where I can store stuff, but I guess its better than not even having the option for external storage like IOS devices. Currently though it appears that I purchased a MicroSD card for nothing as it doesn't fit my needs.
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Lordgodgeneral already answered this when you brought it up the first time, but it is simple to transfer any of your media files over to the SD card. Yes when you first download your pics they will be stored on internal memory, but you can manually move them over to the sd card and they will still be recognized by the transformer. I believe the stock file manager will work for this, but I personally use root explorer.

jjal09 said:
With Gallery my issue is that I have all my photos online with Picasa, so I take advantage of the 'Offline' option to auto download some of my photos. The problem is I have no control over where these offline folders are stored, and it would be impossible for me to have all my photos available offline on the internal storage.
I am surprised at the lack of control over where I can store stuff, but I guess its better than not even having the option for external storage like IOS devices. Currently though it appears that I purchased a MicroSD card for nothing as it doesn't fit my needs.
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That has more to do with the app itself. If an app lets you set where it saves, it'll work.

It may be possible to have all the internal storage dedicated to apps (/data) and point /sdcard to the removable micro SD card with some fstab modifications. I'll try this tonight and see what happens.

HD GAMES????
ok guys i see last post was on june but do you realise that the new HD games coming out are about nearly 1 g of space some? there must be a freaking way to install apps or games on SD card omfg wy do i want extenral storage to keep mi fotos and music? this is bull**** guys pls lets get some way to have our games or programs that occupie more than 700mb out of internal memory there must be some way... pls scratch your brain ask friends ask parents ask teachers this is very serious....
Best regards... TF user... rooted ofcourse

jesseibiza said:
ok guys i see last post was on june but do you realise that the new HD games coming out are about nearly 1 g of space some? there must be a freaking way to install apps or games on SD card omfg wy do i want extenral storage to keep mi fotos and music? this is bull**** guys pls lets get some way to have our games or programs that occupie more than 700mb out of internal memory there must be some way... pls scratch your brain ask friends ask parents ask teachers this is very serious....
Best regards... TF user... rooted ofcourse
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Ithink its better to loose the games if somthing damages your internal storage. I have the 32 gb Transformer and thats more than enough for games. You can not play 30 games at the same time and if you bakup your game and gamedata you can uninstal a game and install it again if you whant to play it.
I dont understand why people always ask for intstall something on Micro SD card. Intrenal storage is much faster than a card.
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[Q] Google Music All Access - Storing "On Device" Files to SD Card?

I would love to simply stream all my music when I'm driving, but this is quickly eating up my data plan. Therefore, I like to save a lot of albums "On Device" to listen to later. But Google Music All-Access apparently has no way to specify where these files are stored, and they're quickly filling up my internal SD memory.
So, I bought a 64G SD card, but recently found out that it was wasted money as Google All Access has no way of saving the "On Device" files there.
Has anyone found a solution to this? I've found methods that work for Google Play Music PRIOR to the All Access upgrade, but nothing since that point (about a week ago).
I'm surprised there aren't more people complaining about this, but maybe I'm just one of the few that would like to play my music - LOTS of it - without the need to be connected to the Internet.
Any help?

I just dragged and dropped from my computer to external SD card.
I would guess that you can copy and paste the files if you want to do it all on the phone ? I realise that you might have to use a different music app if the one you use now doesn't "see" them, but that shouldn't be too bad ?

Did you try changing the storage path from internal sd to external sd? This can be done by going to settings and storage.
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techpick said:
Did you try changing the storage path from internal sd to external sd? This can be done by going to settings and storage.
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System (Phone) Settings? Won't allow me to change it.("Move to SD Card" option is disabled).
There is no setting like that in the All-Access program.

Here's how to do it.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/com..._i_have_my_downloads_from_google_play/ca5rxuh

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Here's how to do it.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/com..._i_have_my_downloads_from_google_play/ca5rxuh
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I've been pulling my hair out trying to get a symlink set up. I'm getting a dreaded "link failed: Operation not permitted" error.
I believe this might be because of the file system on my SD card? It's exFAT... could that be the issue?

You can give this a try
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYFw9bEAzM8
No credit to me, just ran across it and tried it.

ddschmidt said:
You can give this a try
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYFw9bEAzM8
No credit to me, just ran across it and tried it.
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You you could try the Song Spout program.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44198180#post44198180

http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...hack-for-sd-card-support-a-download-link-too/

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If you downgrade your version of play music to 5.1 you get save to SD card support that they removed in 5.2. All you have to do is download activity launcher, or use the built in one from Apex or other launcher of the sort, and exapnd the play music activities and then find the one that has ui.something with sd in in and then choose it and run the activity. It lets you choose device storage or SD and i confirmed it works. I cant take credit i found the fix in this article, kind of.. haha
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...hack-for-sd-card-support-a-download-link-too/
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What is this SD Card Good for Anyway?

I recently bought a Class 10 Sandisk SD Card to increase my storage on my skyrocket.
Initially I thought I would use it to store all my music and free up space on the device. What I am finding is that my PC Music Players (WMP, MusicMonkey) just dont seem able to synch to the external SD Card. They synch no problem to my device, but I get constant errors and freeze ups when trying to synch to the external SD Card. So it doesnt seem useful for music storage.
Then I saw that its very hard to store apps to the device, and I think I need special apps that let me save and run apps from there.
So what good is having the SD Card? Does anyone have suggestions of other ways I can make use of this to better manage the internal storage space on my phone?

lirong said:
I recently bought a Class 10 Sandisk SD Card to increase my storage on my skyrocket.
Initially I thought I would use it to store all my music and free up space on the device. What I am finding is that my PC Music Players (WMP, MusicMonkey) just dont seem able to synch to the external SD Card. They synch no problem to my device, but I get constant errors and freeze ups when trying to synch to the external SD Card. So it doesnt seem useful for music storage.
Then I saw that its very hard to store apps to the device, and I think I need special apps that let me save and run apps from there.
So what good is having the SD Card? Does anyone have suggestions of other ways I can make use of this to better manage the internal storage space on my phone?
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There are lots of other apps you could use instead. Me personally I never use any music player syncing, I copy the music manually in explorer.

lingowistico said:
There are lots of other apps you could use instead. Me personally I never use any music player syncing, I copy the music manually in explorer.
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+1
Even started using Beyond Compare (or any folder comparison tool) to have a better view of what's already on my phone
I have too much music for my external sd card capacity

lingowistico said:
There are lots of other apps you could use instead. Me personally I never use any music player syncing, I copy the music manually in explorer.
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A number of people have mentioned that. What I dont understand is the following: when I use the player to synch, it will automatically figure out which are the new songs in the library and synch them.
When you do a manual copy and paste, unless I keep track of whats new and what needs to be copied, how do I make sure to only copy the new songs instead of having duplicates of everything or having to re-copy the entire library each time? Is there some setting that only copies new files or something like that?

lirong said:
When you do a manual copy and paste, unless I keep track of whats new and what needs to be copied, how do I make sure to only copy the new songs instead of having duplicates of everything or having to re-copy the entire library each time? Is there some setting that only copies new files or something like that?
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It should give you a message that says something like "SongXYZ.mp3 already exists; Do you want to Overwrite, Keep Both, Discard" when you try to paste in a file that already exists.

lingowistico said:
There are lots of other apps you could use instead. Me personally I never use any music player syncing, I copy the music manually in explorer.
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mrfeuss said:
It should give you a message that says something like "SongXYZ.mp3 already exists; Do you want to Overwrite, Keep Both, Discard" when you try to paste in a file that already exists.
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Right but is there any way to set that as a default on a batch of 700 songs, of which only 10 may be new? Obviously cant click on that one at a time.
Sorry I know this is basic stuff, but appreciate the guidance...

lirong said:
Right but is there any way to set that as a default on a batch of 700 songs, of which only 10 may be new? Obviously cant click on that one at a time.
Sorry I know this is basic stuff, but appreciate the guidance...
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If you're doing it from a Windows computer it'll say something like "Do this for the next xx conflicts" I think.

Play Music cache

The cache for Play Music on my phone is getting to be too much and sometimes even becomes too big for the available memory I have internally. Is there any way I can get it to cache externally? Or have the "pinned" music to save to an external sd card?
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Anyone?...
I realize googles basis for streaming your music vs storing it on the device, hence the lack of external storage options in their flagship phones (which is without a doubt the root of my problem).
My question is has anyone figured out a way to have the app pin your music to an ext sd card? I thought maybe having it installed on the ext sd would help but I want to know what you guys think before I do that (not that I know how, lol).
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Luckily it's in the settings settings>clear cache
Edit: read your question wrong, sorry. Try moving the folder itself
Edit: You can use a file manager to set the folder the music usually stores to to link to a folder on the ext SD Card
If you're responding to me, make sure to quote me so I get an immediate email

Music on an SD Card (or lack thereof)

OK I've got a bit of a problem here. I have a d2vzw running CM 10.1.3 and run all of my music off of a 64gb sd card formatted for FAT32. It's becoming almost a daily occurrence that for whatever reason, Apollo (or any other music app) fails to immediately recognize that there is music stored on the card. The time it takes for the list to populate ranges from 5 minutes to never, and occasionally includes tagging multiple songs as "Unknown." I've never been able to produce a LOGCAT for this either. Plugging the phone into my computer however, will show all files present in explorer. I'm really starting to get sick of this as I bought the S3 to solve the problem of having to carry both an iPod and a smart phone. Any one know any potential reasons?

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OK I've got a bit of a problem here. I have a d2vzw running CM 10.1.3 and run all of my music off of a 64gb sd card formatted for FAT32. It's becoming almost a daily occurrence that for whatever reason, Apollo (or any other music app) fails to immediately recognize that there is music stored on the card. The time it takes for the list to populate ranges from 5 minutes to never, and occasionally includes tagging multiple songs as "Unknown." I've never been able to produce a LOGCAT for this either. Plugging the phone into my computer however, will show all files present in explorer. I'm really starting to get sick of this as I bought the S3 to solve the problem of having to carry both an iPod and a smart phone. Any one know any potential reasons?
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I can say that I've used 10.1.2 without any issues. I stopped using Apollo a while ago and switched over to PowerAmp which allows you to choose "select" folders that the player will ONLY scan. This prevents ringtones, downloaded voicemails, etc, from appearing in your library.

Yes poweramp is the way to go... Love it..
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Power amp and player pro both allow you to select certain folders, I like the later as its a little less cluttered than power amp in my decision
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It could be any number of things. First try another music player, if that doesn't work flash a touchwiz ROM. If that doesn't work either then it either has to be your phone or your card. This happened to me like a month ago in my case it was the phone.
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Are you using the sandisk 64gb card? If so that might be the problem. My sandisk card lasted about 8 months before becoming locked (couldn't format, copy or remove files anymore). Within that 8 months my card would randomly become unreadable and would have to be reformatted. The 64gb sd card from samsung has been working great for me. The amazon page for the sandisk card says this "Reformat into file system other than exFAT may cause instability". Anyways you might just have to get another sd card.