What is this SD Card Good for Anyway? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II Skyrocket SGH-I727

I recently bought a Class 10 Sandisk SD Card to increase my storage on my skyrocket.
Initially I thought I would use it to store all my music and free up space on the device. What I am finding is that my PC Music Players (WMP, MusicMonkey) just dont seem able to synch to the external SD Card. They synch no problem to my device, but I get constant errors and freeze ups when trying to synch to the external SD Card. So it doesnt seem useful for music storage.
Then I saw that its very hard to store apps to the device, and I think I need special apps that let me save and run apps from there.
So what good is having the SD Card? Does anyone have suggestions of other ways I can make use of this to better manage the internal storage space on my phone?

lirong said:
I recently bought a Class 10 Sandisk SD Card to increase my storage on my skyrocket.
Initially I thought I would use it to store all my music and free up space on the device. What I am finding is that my PC Music Players (WMP, MusicMonkey) just dont seem able to synch to the external SD Card. They synch no problem to my device, but I get constant errors and freeze ups when trying to synch to the external SD Card. So it doesnt seem useful for music storage.
Then I saw that its very hard to store apps to the device, and I think I need special apps that let me save and run apps from there.
So what good is having the SD Card? Does anyone have suggestions of other ways I can make use of this to better manage the internal storage space on my phone?
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There are lots of other apps you could use instead. Me personally I never use any music player syncing, I copy the music manually in explorer.

lingowistico said:
There are lots of other apps you could use instead. Me personally I never use any music player syncing, I copy the music manually in explorer.
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+1
Even started using Beyond Compare (or any folder comparison tool) to have a better view of what's already on my phone
I have too much music for my external sd card capacity

lingowistico said:
There are lots of other apps you could use instead. Me personally I never use any music player syncing, I copy the music manually in explorer.
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A number of people have mentioned that. What I dont understand is the following: when I use the player to synch, it will automatically figure out which are the new songs in the library and synch them.
When you do a manual copy and paste, unless I keep track of whats new and what needs to be copied, how do I make sure to only copy the new songs instead of having duplicates of everything or having to re-copy the entire library each time? Is there some setting that only copies new files or something like that?

lirong said:
When you do a manual copy and paste, unless I keep track of whats new and what needs to be copied, how do I make sure to only copy the new songs instead of having duplicates of everything or having to re-copy the entire library each time? Is there some setting that only copies new files or something like that?
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It should give you a message that says something like "SongXYZ.mp3 already exists; Do you want to Overwrite, Keep Both, Discard" when you try to paste in a file that already exists.

lingowistico said:
There are lots of other apps you could use instead. Me personally I never use any music player syncing, I copy the music manually in explorer.
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mrfeuss said:
It should give you a message that says something like "SongXYZ.mp3 already exists; Do you want to Overwrite, Keep Both, Discard" when you try to paste in a file that already exists.
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Right but is there any way to set that as a default on a batch of 700 songs, of which only 10 may be new? Obviously cant click on that one at a time.
Sorry I know this is basic stuff, but appreciate the guidance...

lirong said:
Right but is there any way to set that as a default on a batch of 700 songs, of which only 10 may be new? Obviously cant click on that one at a time.
Sorry I know this is basic stuff, but appreciate the guidance...
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If you're doing it from a Windows computer it'll say something like "Do this for the next xx conflicts" I think.

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[Q] external SD card questions

i'm new to android so please bear with me.
i have a 32GB SD class 4 in my phone. it's been formatted so all it has is the lost.dir (i'm on a mac)
since there are no folders there - how do i gets apps to use it? where do i put music and other files? i have podcasts and other stuff i'd like to drag over but i'm not understanding how the different apps would see it.
i can move some apps to SD card but i think it just moves them to the internal SD card.
it seems that there are 2 SD cards in the phone but no way to differentiate between the 2.
also it sometimes takes forever for the gx2 to recognize the card, its kind of annoying. is having a class 10 better for this?
I use filemanager from the market and it recognizes my external as........"_externalSD" also allows me to transfer files between the two.
ecpht said:
i'm new to android so please bear with me.
i have a 32GB SD class 4 in my phone. it's been formatted so all it has is the lost.dir (i'm on a mac)
since there are no folders there - how do i gets apps to use it? where do i put music and other files? i have podcasts and other stuff i'd like to drag over but i'm not understanding how the different apps would see it.
i can move some apps to SD card but i think it just moves them to the internal SD card.
it seems that there are 2 SD cards in the phone but no way to differentiate between the 2.
also it sometimes takes forever for the gx2 to recognize the card, its kind of annoying. is having a class 10 better for this?
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When you have your phone plugged in pull down the alert bar on the top of the screen and press the "USB Connection" option. It should ask you if you want to turn USB mode on and have a picture of an Android. This will allow you to mount your internal and external sd as if they were regular flash sticks. You can then copy whatever you want to them. I also like to use drop box in combination with Astro for moving things to and from the cloud.
ecpht said:
i'm new to android so please bear with me.
i have a 32GB SD class 4 in my phone. it's been formatted so all it has is the lost.dir (i'm on a mac)
since there are no folders there - how do i gets apps to use it? where do i put music and other files? i have podcasts and other stuff i'd like to drag over but i'm not understanding how the different apps would see it.
i can move some apps to SD card but i think it just moves them to the internal SD card.
it seems that there are 2 SD cards in the phone but no way to differentiate between the 2.
also it sometimes takes forever for the gx2 to recognize the card, its kind of annoying. is having a class 10 better for this?
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1. G2x has the internal sd card partitioned into 2 parts (1 for OS & apps & other for storage & apps).
2. Sd card's class does help but it is not something important until you're running a high def video.
3. Use any file explorer app (File expert etc) for copying files from Internal SD Card to External SD Card.
4. Most of the app's setting menu gives you an option to physically select the storage destination folder i.e. external sd card.
Hope I helped.
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so say i have podcasts and other files on my computer i want to copy to the 32GB SD card - do i just make folders on the card and copy the files over from my computer?
ecpht said:
so say i have podcasts and other files on my computer i want to copy to the 32GB SD card - do i just make folders on the card and copy the files over from my computer?
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Yes, just simply copy the entire FOLDER of the particular file to your External SD Card & if in future, if u download something directly from your phone then simply just copy/paste it from your using any file manager app.
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so i have the phone connected to the computer and I see 2 No Name disks. That's fine. I put a folder called music at the root level of the 32GB card. Now I find that folder in File Expert and I go to play something and it says that file isn't supported. I tried Google Music and Doubletwist. Just mp3's from a CD. are there certain settings for android i need to know about? and do i need to go to File Expert to play this music everytime? Or should I be going through doubletwist on my mac and using it like itunes?
thanks you any help, i'm pretty clueless with this aspect of android right now, trying to catch up.
also both SD cards randomly unmount themselves. is there a reason for this or a way to prevent this?
ecpht said:
so i have the phone connected to the computer and I see 2 No Name disks. That's fine. I put a folder called music at the root level of the 32GB card. Now I find that folder in File Expert and I go to play something and it says that file isn't supported. I tried Google Music and Doubletwist. Just mp3's from a CD. are there certain settings for android i need to know about? and do i need to go to File Expert to play this music everytime? Or should I be going through doubletwist on my mac and using it like itunes?
thanks you any help, i'm pretty clueless with this aspect of android right now, trying to catch up.
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Ok. After reading your problems, here are my suggestions:
1) Copy your 32 GB SD Card files on your computer.
2) Format your 32 GB card. Replace all files back in it.
3) Stop worrying about putting certain files (pics, music) in a root folder. Simply just put any files OR folders inside the Sd card.
4) When it comes to File sharing, think of Android in the same category as Windows.
I hope I helped.
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[Q] No Internal Memory

I need some help here. I have no internal memory on my blaze. I have no games, a hundred pictures or so, and a decent number of apps downloaded. I have used app2sd to move as many apps to the external sd card, but I have consistently run out of memory in a variety of ROMs. I am currently using AOKP ROM, but it is the same case with a few others I have used. I cannot take pictures because my memory is full. Things like evernote will not sync, nook can't download books, etc.
Anybody got any suggestions? I am not really even sure what is taking up all the memory, none of the files are even that large. I can provide any info needed, just not sure where to begin.
Bradlees said:
I need some help here. I have no internal memory on my blaze. I have no games, a hundred pictures or so, and a decent number of apps downloaded. I have used app2sd to move as many apps to the external sd card, but I have consistently run out of memory in a variety of ROMs. I am currently using AOKP ROM, but it is the same case with a few others I have used. I cannot take pictures because my memory is full. Things like evernote will not sync, nook can't download books, etc.
Anybody got any suggestions? I am not really even sure what is taking up all the memory, none of the files are even that large. I can provide any info needed, just not sure where to begin.
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I used clean master which gave me a good 250mb back. You should try it.
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Bradlees said:
I need some help here. I have no internal memory on my blaze. I have no games, a hundred pictures or so, and a decent number of apps downloaded. I have used app2sd to move as many apps to the external sd card, but I have consistently run out of memory in a variety of ROMs. I am currently using AOKP ROM, but it is the same case with a few others I have used. I cannot take pictures because my memory is full. Things like evernote will not sync, nook can't download books, etc.
Anybody got any suggestions? I am not really even sure what is taking up all the memory, none of the files are even that large. I can provide any info needed, just not sure where to begin.
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Try getting a dropbox, google drive or skydrive account and loading all your files such as pics, videos and even titanium backup folder etc. Using file explorers suchas astro will still let you view the files as if they were on your phone. Also go through all your apps and clear all the caches. Browsers such as Mozilla can have very large caches especially if there synced to your pc. I use dolphin browser, other small browsers such as opera mini might help based on your preferences, try a few. Google+, maps and other google apps tend to keep a large cache on hand. The online album syncs such as dropbox should resolve the issue.
Oh and google drive offers more space initially than dropbox, skydrive gives you 7 gigs off the jump. If it helped hit thx
jbats said:
Try getting a dropbox, google drive or skydrive account and loading all your files such as pics, videos and even titanium backup folder etc. Using file explorers suchas astro will still let you view the files as if they were on your phone. Also go through all your apps and clear all the caches. Browsers such as Mozilla can have very large caches especially if there synced to your pc. I use dolphin browser, other small browsers such as opera mini might help based on your preferences, try a few. Google+, maps and other google apps tend to keep a large cache on hand. The online album syncs such as dropbox should resolve the issue.
Oh and google drive offers more space initially than dropbox, skydrive gives you 7 gigs off the jump. If it helped hit thx
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I've downloaded skydrive as I've been using windows 8 on my pc and pretty happy with it thus far. Is there a way to change my setting\s so pictures, etc are stored here? Or would I just basically upload them and then delete them from the gallery?
Bradlees said:
I've downloaded skydrive as I've been using windows 8 on my pc and pretty happy with it thus far. Is there a way to change my setting\s so pictures, etc are stored here? Or would I just basically upload them and then delete them from the gallery?
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You need to download sky drive to your PC. You can edit the settings from your PC to automatically sync PC when on, and doesn't matter where u delete from PC or phone ,online album will sync delete across all devices. I use all three giving me a total of 14.5 gbs of space, I only keep drop box sync on and use the other two selectively.
Also probally best to setup sync over WiFi only to avoid overage on your data network usage
Did everything work out for you?
jbats said:
Did everything work out for you?
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Ok, so things did not work out for me. I have files synced and uploaded to dropbox and skydrive. However, all the pictures were already stored on my external sd card, the real external sd card which has about 4 of 8 gb free still. So, I'm at a bit of a loss here as to what to do. The 1.39 available storage on the internal usb storage is completely full. THere are no games, music, and a few pictures on it and that it is it. What is taking up so much space?
Bradlees said:
Ok, so things did not work out for me. I have files synced and uploaded to dropbox and skydrive. However, all the pictures were already stored on my external sd card, the real external sd card which has about 4 of 8 gb free still. So, I'm at a bit of a loss here as to what to do. The 1.39 available storage on the internal usb storage is completely full. THere are no games, music, and a few pictures on it and that it is it. What is taking up so much space?
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Look at it in a file explorer only u can see what's on it not us
Try astro file explorer
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I have the same problem with mine. Use a file manager and delete the ".thumbnails" folder in the DCIM folder and it frees up a few hundred mb. It might be hidden so you may need a root explorer or plug your usb into the computer
That's how it is for me at least.
Bradlees said:
Ok, so things did not work out for me. I have files synced and uploaded to dropbox and skydrive. However, all the pictures were already stored on my external sd card, the real external sd card which has about 4 of 8 gb free still. So, I'm at a bit of a loss here as to what to do. The 1.39 available storage on the internal usb storage is completely full. THere are no games, music, and a few pictures on it and that it is it. What is taking up so much space?
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You dont sync your browser from phone to pc do you? I use to with mozilla, but ended up with a mobile browser weighing in at around 120 mb (ouch). Use a smaller browser. Another thing do you regularly clear your caches? These can stack up. Also if your photos are all uploaded to dropbox and such, DELETE them from your phone. The ones you use for wallpapers,contacts etc., store on your external card that way to be safe and not delete them when you clear your gallery after new uploads. Last thing check your downloaded files from setting and see which ones can be moved to sd card. Other than that explore your files.
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Try wipping Dalvik and cache partition and any thumbnails inside the DCMI folder.
jbats said:
You dont sync your browser from phone to pc do you? I use to with mozilla, but ended up with a mobile browser weighing in at around 120 mb (ouch). Use a smaller browser. Another thing do you regularly clear your caches? These can stack up. Also if your photos are all uploaded to dropbox and such, DELETE them from your phone. The ones you use for wallpapers,contacts etc., store on your external card that way to be safe and not delete them when you clear your gallery after new uploads. Last thing check your downloaded files from setting and see which ones can be moved to sd card. Other than that explore your files.
If it helped hit thx
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I found the culprit with es file explorer. Sizes of folders were not showing up if I connected to the pc and tried to use the windows file explorer. THere was some file that was almost 1gb in the cwm folder.
I use chrome and it is synced. Should I turn this off?
Bradlees said:
I found the culprit with es file explorer. Sizes of folders were not showing up if I connected to the pc and tried to use the windows file explorer. THere was some file that was almost 1gb in the cwm folder.
I use chrome and it is synced. Should I turn this off?
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I would. Also have you ever tried dolphin browser? It loads web pages alot faster, throw in adaway to block popups and youll be solid. Both you can get from the play store. Its up to you but I use jetpack (playstore) with dolphin to improve speed.
If it helped hit thx
Back up all your apps (Either with Titanium Backup) Wipe and factory reset everything,(In cwr go to mounts and format all except external_SD) flash your ROM. Now you should be all clean. Then I suggest getting a 32 GB SD card and use Link2Sd and Directory Bind to move actual apps to your external SD. Here is a great guide on how to use both apps http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33884286
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[Q] Google Music All Access - Storing "On Device" Files to SD Card?

I would love to simply stream all my music when I'm driving, but this is quickly eating up my data plan. Therefore, I like to save a lot of albums "On Device" to listen to later. But Google Music All-Access apparently has no way to specify where these files are stored, and they're quickly filling up my internal SD memory.
So, I bought a 64G SD card, but recently found out that it was wasted money as Google All Access has no way of saving the "On Device" files there.
Has anyone found a solution to this? I've found methods that work for Google Play Music PRIOR to the All Access upgrade, but nothing since that point (about a week ago).
I'm surprised there aren't more people complaining about this, but maybe I'm just one of the few that would like to play my music - LOTS of it - without the need to be connected to the Internet.
Any help?
I just dragged and dropped from my computer to external SD card.
I would guess that you can copy and paste the files if you want to do it all on the phone ? I realise that you might have to use a different music app if the one you use now doesn't "see" them, but that shouldn't be too bad ?
Did you try changing the storage path from internal sd to external sd? This can be done by going to settings and storage.
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techpick said:
Did you try changing the storage path from internal sd to external sd? This can be done by going to settings and storage.
Sent from my Micromax A116
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System (Phone) Settings? Won't allow me to change it.("Move to SD Card" option is disabled).
There is no setting like that in the All-Access program.
Here's how to do it.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/com..._i_have_my_downloads_from_google_play/ca5rxuh
OhMrBigshot said:
Here's how to do it.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/com..._i_have_my_downloads_from_google_play/ca5rxuh
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I've been pulling my hair out trying to get a symlink set up. I'm getting a dreaded "link failed: Operation not permitted" error.
I believe this might be because of the file system on my SD card? It's exFAT... could that be the issue?
You can give this a try
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYFw9bEAzM8
No credit to me, just ran across it and tried it.
ddschmidt said:
You can give this a try
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYFw9bEAzM8
No credit to me, just ran across it and tried it.
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You you could try the Song Spout program.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44198180#post44198180
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...hack-for-sd-card-support-a-download-link-too/
workaround
If you downgrade your version of play music to 5.1 you get save to SD card support that they removed in 5.2. All you have to do is download activity launcher, or use the built in one from Apex or other launcher of the sort, and exapnd the play music activities and then find the one that has ui.something with sd in in and then choose it and run the activity. It lets you choose device storage or SD and i confirmed it works. I cant take credit i found the fix in this article, kind of.. haha
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...hack-for-sd-card-support-a-download-link-too/
Im on an S4 unlocked SGH-I337 running ATT jellybean 4.3

help about microsd card, music, and playlists

I want to save my music on my sd card but everytime I remove the card and then put the card back in the songs on my playlists disappear. So I have to add the songs again/make new playlists. Is there any way to avoid this?
zynx said:
I want to save my music on my sd card but everytime I remove the card and then put the card back in the songs on my playlists disappear. So I have to add the songs again/make new playlists. Is there any way to avoid this?
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You need to save the playlist on your SD card. I made mine on my pc then copied to sd card.
bigtoysrock said:
You need to save the playlist on your SD card. I made mine on my pc then copied to sd card.
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How exactly do you do that? If you dont mind explaining.
I saw the playlist folder on the internal storage. I cut it and pasted it on my sd card but didnt work.
Im very new to android so excuse my lack of knowledge.
EDIT: Do I need to make a folder inside the playlist folder?
Example: If I want to make a playlist named "whatever" do I need create a folder name whatever inside the playlist folder and add the songs to that folder?
zynx said:
How exactly do you do that? If you dont mind explaining.
I saw the playlist folder on the internal storage. I cut it and pasted it on my sd card but didnt work.
Im very new to android so excuse my lack of knowledge.
EDIT: Do I need to make a folder inside the playlist folder?
Example: If I want to make a playlist named "whatever" do I need create a folder name whatever inside the playlist folder and add the songs to that folder?
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I used Windows Media Player to create the play list. Then moved it over. It's been a long time since I did it, I'll do it again if need be to get better info.
bigtoysrock said:
I used Windows Media Player to create the play list. Then moved it over. It's been a long time since I did it, I'll do it again if need be to get better info.
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Its ok, dont bother. I'll try making it with that program. If that doesnt work ill just keep the songs on the tab itself.
Thanks for the reply and info though
I haven't messed with playlists but i have changed the default music location. That is done from the settings menu in My Files app. Not sure of that will fix your issue but check it
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Micro USB Flash Drive

Would one of these/something like it work on my Moto G: 1 2 3
If I used a file explorer, could I move apps and music from Moto storage onto flash drive and still be able to play them? Is it convenient and easy to use, 8GB is barley enough for me. Thanks
@Banana4Life ..... Look at the "Meenova" USB OTG unit (there is a thread in Moto G accessory forum but i cannot remember exactly where) you can find it by Googling. It is similar to your 3rd example, that is it can be used in Moto G also as a normal size USB in Laptop or Desktop. I have one and I see it's advantage is that it comes without a fixed memory i.e. you can put any micro sd card that you want in it i.e. 4Gb, 8Gb, 16Gb, 32Gb, 64Gb etc. If I remember correctly it costs $15 plus shipping & handling. It is a Chinese firm but has an office and sales point in California.
I find it most useful for keeping a copy of "sdcard" and backups which in turn can be copied to my Laptop as extra insurance LOL. I also store movies on it and can play them directly onto my phone. One word of warning (which you probably know) do not be tempted to format with NTFS - Moto G wont read it and theres a chance you will soft brick.
It looks pretty nice, much smaller than my examples. Can you play apps off the micro sd card? I would mainly use it for apps and music. Is it easy to access the stuff you put on it as well, do you use ES file explorer?
@bana4Life ..... I can't give you a definite answer to whether you can run apps directly from the Meenova device all I can say on that is that it is quite easy to transfer apps from your phone onto the Meenova, the only trouble I find is that as soon as you select the app it immediately asks if you want to "install" it and this it does on your phone not on the device. I don't know whether using one of the apps which claims to be able to transfer apps to an external sd would be able to help you out but my own limited experience with such apps as "Apps to SD", "Move to SD", "App Manager" etc has not proved very helpful.
As far as music is concerned, same as videos or movies, it is simplicity itself ..... If you run your main app to play music or video then the app automatically searches for the music etc on both your phone storage and the usb storage and plays it fine.
My file manager of choice is "Root Explorer" (from the play store), I'm presuming that you are rooted - if not you can still use "Root Explorer" but you won't have the option to read/write files, only read them and you won't have the ability to see the hidden system files.
The Meenova shows up in your file system as ...../mnt/media_rw/usbdisk. I should have mentioned before that although I am rooted and have custom recovery installed I am running the stock 4.4.3 Rom and if you are running a custom Rom then much of what I have said may not apply.
I don't think I've been a lot of help to you, however good luck with whatever you try. By the way I think my remarks apply to all USB OTG storage devices not just Meenova. Yes I think the Meenova is the smallest such device on the market.
So with the app problem, you can move an app from phone to SD, but to play it you'll have to move it back onto the phone, then after using it move it back onto SD. Is that what you can do? Also, didn't know the main music app would search the SD, thought that you would have to use something like Es File Explorer to play music (which is what I use). I am also on stock 4.4.4
You have actually been helpful, went into detail and gave info :highfive: :highfive: :highfive:
@Banana4Life ..... Just a quick answer ..... When I talked about moving the app to the usb storage I was referring to the .apk ...... but when you click on it it will give you the option to "Install" which it then does on your phone so really you save nothing, the app is still installed on the phone! ..... As far as I'm concerned the only real use of usb storage is to store large amounts of data i.e. mp4 movies which would otherwise take up valuable phone memory. This applies equally to large numbers of music files.
The two apps I use for playing movies are (1) MX Player Pro and (2) Best Video Player. Both are on Play Store. Both will search for compatible video files to play on both the phone and the usb storage.
I'm not a huge music "fan" but I have my playlists which I play using the stock Google "Play Music" app (installed by default by ICS - Jelly Bean - KitKat) it's also on Play Store. This app will also search both the phone and usb storage for music files.
An apk file can be installed with out a connection right? So you can put multiple apk's on SD card, install one then uninstall it to install a different apk
@Banana4Life ..... I think we are beginning to talk about different things here LOL ..... If you download an app from the Play Store then nine times out of ten the .apk file will be downloaded to your phone in the ..../data/app.... folder - the associated "odex" file will probably be downloaded into your phone in the ..../system/app.... folder and any other associated data files will be downloaded to other phone folders ..... Now there maybe apps which will allow these files to be downloaded to your place of choice i.e. usb storage .... BUT I don't know of any apps which will do this.
You use the words ".... on SD card...." please remember the Moto G does not have an external SD card (unless of course you have the Moto E which has an external SD card) so when you use a File Manager and see the folder entitled "sdcard" this refers to the internal memory space NOT to an external card.
Yes you could swap installed apk's back and forth between usb storage and normal phone storage but it just seems to me a lot of work for not very much gain.
You say "....apk's can be installed without a connection" .... Not quite certain what you mean by that..... You don't need your phone connected to a PC by a cable ..... You can have your USB storage (Meenova) connected to your phone ...OR NOT ...... of course your phone will be connected to Play Store by WiFi, but that can't be what you mean
Yea, I am android pleb I get confused
In your 2nd reply you said apps such as App to SD were not very useful but your also said it's easy to transfer apps. By transferring apps you mean by the apk and you tried to use the App to SD to move the whole app not just the installer, but even though using App to SD it still requires you to install it on phone. Is it not possible to move the apk file for every app or do just some work? There are some tutorials saying how to make default download place an SD or how to move an app to SD.
Maybe I don't understand what an apk is? Running an apk will install the app it's for right? Just a installer. And by the connection I mean as in once you have downloaded the apk file, running it won't require a WiFi connection?
And yea you said it comes up as /mnt/media_rw/USB disk in 2nd reply as well
Sorry if this doesnt make sense :/
@Banana4Life ..... I have never found the apps that transfer files i.e. such as "App2SD" any use for my purposes ..... BUT don't let that stop you trying them ..... you might find one that suits you and most of them are free in the Play Store.
Think of an .apk file as being an .exe file on windows ..... i.e. it installs and runs the App (Program) on your phone.
You don't need to have a WiFi connection to run 99% of apps on your phone. The obvious exceptions are online games which require an interaction between you and the Internet ..... Some simulations i.e. Flying - Motor Racing - Boat racing etc ..... Some games which require you to purchase in game upgrades ..... Games where you want to post "high scores" on a web site ..... etc.etc.etc.
I've ordered a black one today, hopefully wont take 20 days like they say it can
Im still not sure about the apps. You said it is quite easy to transfer apps from your phone onto the Meenova. What method did you do to transfer it? With the picture attached, does that option come up once SD card is put in? And just to be sure, once the app is on Meenova to use it I have to install it on phone first, then be able to put it back on Meenova right?
Thanks for recommending it and loads of information - I appreciate it :good::good::good::laugh::highfive: . If apps dont work, music is still important, I'll have to experiment
@bana4Life ..... Hope you are happy with it when it arrives. When I said in post#2 that there was a sales office/warehouse in California I was making the assumption that you were in the US because then they send it by US Postal Service and it takes two days ..... HOWEVER if you are outside US (which I now understand you are) then the postage is by Chinese Postal Service which is first class crap and will probably take nearly 20 days
Whenever I talk about moving files from one location to another (i.e. from phone to usb storage or the reverse) I am always talking about using File Manager "Root Explorer Pro".
When you have usb storage attached it shows up at ------ Settings>Storage>USB On the Go Storage Mounted...... In your screenshot (which I am guessing is using one of the "App2SD" apps) any reference to SD card refers to your internal memory.
It has just occurred to me that I have been assuming all along that you have the standard XT1032 or XT1033 Moto G (with NO external SD slot)..... WHEREAS if you have the Moto G LTE or the Moto E then you do have an external sd card slot.
Anyway I think I have gone as far as I can go with helping you out. I hope that your Meenova arrives quickly and that when you use it you will be happy with what it offers.
Yea I have XT1032. Its was dispatched today . Thanks again! :good: I'll try these App2SD apps, Im sure I'll manage somehow
Banana4Life said:
Yea I have XT1032. Its was dispatched today . Thanks again! :good: I'll try these App2SD apps, Im sure I'll manage somehow
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So your basically wanting it to be an extension of the internal storage. The only use it has is movies and music. Well basically anything but apps.
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So your basically wanting it to be an extension of the internal storage. The only use it has is movies and music. Well basically anything but apps.
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Not even swap apk's from SD to internal like metpolds said you can or is that just impossible and bad idea?
Banana4Life said:
Not even swap apk's from SD to internal like metpolds said you can or is that just impossible and bad idea?
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Yeah but .apk files have no value beyond installing. Your never going to have the equivalent of that picture.
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Not even swap apk's from SD to internal like metpolds said you can or is that just impossible and bad idea?
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And you've both misunderstood what the apps2sd apps are. They're completely irrelevant to what your trying to achieve.
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Yeah but .apk files have no value beyond installing. Your never going to have the equivalent of that picture.
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And you've both misunderstood what the apps2sd apps are. They're completely irrelevant to what your trying to achieve.
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What do you mean by "no value beyond installing. Your never going to have the equivalent of that picture", and also where have I been going wrong with the app2sd apps?
Banana4Life said:
What do you mean by "no value beyond installing. Your never going to have the equivalent of that picture", and also where have I been going wrong with the app2sd apps?
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Well that's what the apks are there for installing. If you download an apk and install it (click on it) the only use of keeping the downloaded apk is if you uninstall the app. You can then install it again.
Apps2sd apps are for phones with sdcard slots. You can partition the sdcard ( fat32 + ext4) and the second partition (ext4) acts as a extension of the /data (where installed app are). There's a lot more to those type of apps but I'm not going into it all. Irrelevant to usb-on-the-go (any storage going thru the micro USB port)
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Well that's what the apks are there for installing. If you download an apk and install it (click on it) the only use of keeping the downloaded apk is if you uninstall the app. You can then install it again.
Apps2sd apps are for phones with sdcard slots. You can partition the sdcard ( fat32 + ext4) and the second partition (ext4) acts as a extension of the /data (where installed app are). There's a lot more to those type of apps but I'm not going into it all. Irrelevant to usb-on-the-go (any storage going thru the micro USB port)
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So Im just thinking it will act like an actual sdcard slot, but it wont. So the apk thing will work?...
Banana4Life said:
So Im just thinking it will act like an actual sdcard slot, but it wont. So the apk thing will work?...
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No it doesn't act like a built-in SDslot. It acts like you've just plugged a memory stick into it.
Yeah copying apks will work it's just a file. Like copying any file. I just don't see what your going to gain from that. Your not going to be able to have more apps installed (ready to run).
The only practical use I've found for meenova is sharing pictures from my camera to my phone.

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