[Q] GSam battery - General Questions and Answers

Hi
I am using GSam battery to monitor my battery.
What I notced that even if screen is off for 15minutes, GSam will show it was on for 9minutes
When I turn of screen for 10minutes it showed that screen was on for 6.
Anyone knows anything about this?
EDIT:
Facebook was causing screen to turn on itself for couple of seconds. It would sometimes happen even few times a minute.
Turned off refresh in facebook and since then screen is really off. I set up refresh interval to never. So I refresh it manualy.
I rarely use fb so its not a big deal. But too bad that such a big company makes such mistake.

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[Q] How to know what's consuming the battery

Hi to all,
after a lot of test I can confirm I haven't the dock draining issue, but I've some (application) what's consuming my battery...
You can see some notes to the attached image.
How can I know what's eating my battery? The 10 hours before, the tablet was in sleep mode (no using)...
Thank's in advance!
you leave it on the dock while sleeping?, get system panel or similar to monitor device usage
During this 2 days and a half, the tablet it's always on the dock (docks battery expressly empty, 3-4%)
When I arribe at home (one hour), I take another screenshot, but basically shows... (aprox.)
Android System 40-45%
Wifi 25-30%
...
In an hour I post more info.
Thank's.
the other screenshot attached
It looks likes you system is never going into a deep sleep.
A couple of suggestions to track down what is effecting you.
1) You have pretty high Wifi usage. Do you install any applications that periodically check for data (some news apps do this). Also, is Wifi set to run off when the screen goes dark.
2) Are you running apps that use the GPS like Google maps or a another mapping app.
Thank's for answer...
Yes, I also noticed the wifi it's ON too much time... I have the option "When screen turns off" on Wi-Fi sleep policy... seems that didn't work??? In any case, if you look the first screenshot, on the middle, you can see a long time periode where the wifi it's on but the battery remains with a good rate of discharge.
I'm not sure if I've some apps using location but I'm sure the GPS it's OFF.
Have you enabled latitude under maps?

Suddenly getting crazy battery drain

Anyone else get stupid fast drain while its sleeping? I have wifi sleep policy set to turn off wifi when screen is off, and using the task manager nothing looks to be running that i havent launched myself. But usually i'd have the battery last DAYS and DAYS if i wasn't using it that much, but the last few charge cycles it's been nearly dead at the end of the day. Is there an app I can get to monitor stuff while its sleeping to see if something is keeping it from deep sleep? I can't remember what i've installed recently that could keep it in wake-lock or whatever. Thanks guys.
There's a build in feature in the settings menu to tell you what uses battery
Check that the wifi is actually sleeping when the screen is off. Tap the power button to wake up the tablet then look at the notification bar in the right hand corner to see if the wifi is turning on and connecting. If its not doing that then I dont think the wifi is disconnecting and turning off when the screen is turned off.
For battery issues, two "must have" tools are "better battery stats" and "cpu spy"
gary's right. download better battery stats here:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.asksven.betterbatterystats
and since the developer of that app loves XDA, there's a free version for us!
OP: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
DL: http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=833619&d=1325149176
Look into the partial wakelock and find the cuplrit!
Battery Drain
Try loading the free util Auto Airplane Mode which has helped fix the SOD issue and the related battery drain during the SOD.
Sorry to push the old post up again.
Recently im suffering from the weird battery drain, i didnt play/use my phone much on sunday , the idle battery drain is huge. like 8 hrs from 100%-40%.
I've installed both betterbatterystats and cpu spy already.
From battstats , it shows that kworker/0:1-3 and kworker/u:12-13 etc using up most of the batt , secondly is the doubletwist music player.
From cpu spy, most of the time is with 200mhz even i didnt use the phone at all, rarely goes to deep sleep mode.
for the process kworker it didnt show whats the process/app is about , anyone else know wt to do now ?
Same problem here :-(
Fully loaded at 7 o'clock and now I'm 34% - this really sucks!
faygo6464 said:
Sorry to push the old post up again.
Recently im suffering from the weird battery drain, i didnt play/use my phone much on sunday , the idle battery drain is huge. like 8 hrs from 100%-40%.
I've installed both betterbatterystats and cpu spy already.
From battstats , it shows that kworker/0:1-3 and kworker/u:12-13 etc using up most of the batt , secondly is the doubletwist music player.
From cpu spy, most of the time is with 200mhz even i didnt use the phone at all, rarely goes to deep sleep mode.
for the process kworker it didnt show whats the process/app is about , anyone else know wt to do now ?
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All you can do is to check the apps you recently installed or updated. They might lock you from sleep. No easy way to control this
For me it was the "samsung-keyboard" - I froze it and now everything seems normal.

[Q] Can someone explain me?

Can someone explain me what time remaining/calculate time left option means on gsam battery, it just shows for example average 05:52, last 15min 05:48, talk time 08:18. I see just random numbers changing it woulf be better if it shows for example battery flow, capacity and other things on home screen of app,like app battery monitor widget, but I see all here uses gsam so it must be better?
And should I turn it off or set it on 5min or 15min or 30min or 60min?
Anyone?

Terrible stand-by time

I have a serious problem with stand-by time of my galaxy s7.
I have updated my device to Nougat and i am using ForceDoze to put the phone to sleep (without root, with adb command), although i am not sure if it is really working.
I lose about 3-4% battery every hour when idle.
With idle i mean always on display on, wifi or data on, gps and bluetooth off, power saving off.
When i check better battery stats and accubattery, it shows the phone in deep sleep most of the time.
I think this amount is ridiculous. It shouldn't consume more than 2% with this setup, assuming AOD consumes 1% per hour.
I don't have a problem with screen-on time. Only with stand-by time.
Do you have any suggestions for me? What could be the problem?
Find out what is running on your phone by going to running services. Disable the apps you dont need running, turn off always on display and see your battery times then. Clearly something is running in the background and this is up to you to find out what is running....
Second option root your phone, uninstall the bloat and install greenify.
omeren83 said:
I have a serious problem with stand-by time of my galaxy s7.
I have updated my device to Nougat and i am using ForceDoze to put the phone to sleep (without root, with adb command), although i am not sure if it is really working.
I lose about 3-4% battery every hour when idle.
With idle i mean always on display on, wifi or data on, gps and bluetooth off, power saving off.
When i check better battery stats and accubattery, it shows the phone in deep sleep most of the time.
I think this amount is ridiculous. It shouldn't consume more than 2% with this setup, assuming AOD consumes 1% per hour.
I don't have a problem with screen-on time. Only with stand-by time.
Do you have any suggestions for me? What could be the problem?
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Hi mate
Most of times is configuration issues or a rouge app , install a an like BBS let it run for a few hours and check the log to see who is keeping the phone awake.
review your settings wifi , location email, FB ........
I think i found what the problem is. It is always-on display. Last night, i turned it off. With only wi-fi on, i lost 1% per hour.
Apparently, AOD consumes way more juice than i thought.
omeren83 said:
I think i found what the problem is. It is always-on display. Last night, i turned it off. With only wi-fi on, i lost 1% per hour.
Apparently, AOD consumes way more juice than i thought.
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I found AOD prevented Doze from working, which in turn used way more in idle, so it's not specifically AOD draining it, it's because it's not at it's lowest power state during idle

Stop wifi drain on standbyI

I just got an LG V20 which is good on battery when in use but sucks when not in use. The culprit is always wifi. I just discovered the root cause is Location services that is using wifi to get locations even when wifi is off.
To stop this, go to settings->location->scanning.
Uncheck wifi scanning. For good measure, uncheck bluetooth scanning.
Go to wifi menu ->advanced-> keep wifi on when screen is off
Change to never or "only when plugged in"
Hi,
thanks for your helpful tips..
So out of the 3 tips you have:
1. Uncheck wifi scanning
2. Uncheck bluetooth scanning
3. Turn wifi off when screen is off
Any idea how much does each option save (if you've quantified)?
I'm happy to follow points 1 and 2. I'd only do 3 if it really helps a lot, because most apps would use data if wifi isn't available to periodically phone home.
I have always been dissappointed with my V20 standby time.. I had all of these settings on.. so i'll see how she does now they are off.
Thanks!
My standby time is from 0-4% over 8-9hrs. I really cant complain.... but the phone is facing down.
I wasn't aware of the wifi location scanning, and the bluetooth scanning. Giving it a try as my standby time has been horrible lately.
I am also facing severe battery drain on my LG V20. Battery easily drains by 5-10% per hour even when the phone is lying idle with screen off. Major culprits are 'Phone Idle', 'Android System' and 'Android OS'.
coolravsun said:
I am also facing severe battery drain on my LG V20. Battery easily drains by 5-10% per hour even when the phone is lying idle with screen off. Major culprits are 'Phone Idle', 'Android System' and 'Android OS'.
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Try what is mentioned here
Post your screen shots here and tag or quote this post
As a side note, I've found that using wifi and cell data to help location services causes maps to scan these options and slow down (maps keeps saying every 5 to 15 seconds "searching"). By using gps only, the maps app is faster and less battery drain.
Obviously if you are indoors you need the help of wifi or cell data. But in the car or outside it is unnessary.
Thanks for your tips it's very good for my life battery. :good:
One Twelve said:
Try what is mentioned here
Post your screen shots here and tag or quote this post
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I tried as suggested in the post you shared. Once the Bugreport was generated, I got a notification to click it to share. But, upon clicking nothing happened. I did not get anything (no pop-up, no options) further to share it. I tried thrice but, every time same end result.
How can I access the Bugreports generated on the phone?
coolravsun said:
I tried as suggested in the post you shared. Once the Bugreport was generated, I got a notification to click it to share. But, upon clicking nothing happened. I did not get anything (no pop-up, no options) further to share it. I tried thrice but, every time same end result.
How can I access the Bugreports generated on the phone?
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Ah, seems like the obvious question but you can't.
I've found the most reliable way is to email them and then download them
One Twelve said:
Ah, seems like the obvious question but you can't.
I've found the most reliable way is to email them and then download them
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Finally! I was able to share and download the bug report. I am attaching the Historian Graph and Aggregated Stats screenshots here. Please let me know what you find.
coolravsun said:
Finally! I was able to share and download the bug report. I am attaching the Historian Graph and Aggregated Stats screenshots here. Please let me know what you find.
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- see the cpu running, userspace wakelock & screen on lines. They seem to match. Screen is on, cpu working with userspace wakelock. Close to 7pm the screen is off but the cpu is running, because you were listening to audio. I don't see a problem here. Looks normal
- you screen off discharge rate is 2.56%/h which seems a bit high. If you were streaming audio this might add to it. Do you have the second screen on when the main screen is off ?
- somewhere around 12pm you are using data for about an hour. Mobile Signal strength isn't very good, mostly yellow. What i don't understand is why your wifi is also on ? and this is in an area where wifi signal is bad. Both of these will add to drain. And in two hours your battery dropped from 70 to 40
- little after 1pm you're on wifi for a couple of hours but the signal is weak
- around 5pm you're back on data streaming audio and battery takes a nose dive here. Down 30% in like an hour. Were you moving ?
- then you charge up to 85%, doze kicks in which is good, if there was app drain doze would not come on, for the next 5h without use, you lose about 5%
- the part i don't understand is between 1am & 6am, battery drops 10% yet full doze (blue) is on. So there is some activity going on there. What ? sync ? updates ?
Not sure about the aggregated stats as you've recharged up and run down fr a second cycle so it could be your off screen drain is twice as high because of that
charge up again, go through your day and save log when you're at 5% and lets see the two screenshots from just one charge cycle
One Twelve said:
- see the cpu running, userspace wakelock & screen on lines. They seem to match. Screen is on, cpu working with userspace wakelock. Close to 7pm the screen is off but the cpu is running, because you were listening to audio. I don't see a problem here. Looks normal
- you screen off discharge rate is 2.56%/h which seems a bit high. If you were streaming audio this might add to it. Do you have the second screen on when the main screen is off ?
- somewhere around 12pm you are using data for about an hour. Mobile Signal strength isn't very good, mostly yellow. What i don't understand is why your wifi is also on ? and this is in an area where wifi signal is bad. Both of these will add to drain. And in two hours your battery dropped from 70 to 40
- little after 1pm you're on wifi for a couple of hours but the signal is weak
- around 5pm you're back on data streaming audio and battery takes a nose dive here. Down 30% in like an hour. Were you moving ?
- then you charge up to 85%, doze kicks in which is good, if there was app drain doze would not come on, for the next 5h without use, you lose about 5%
- the part i don't understand is between 1am & 6am, battery drops 10% yet full doze (blue) is on. So there is some activity going on there. What ? sync ? updates ?
Not sure about the aggregated stats as you've recharged up and run down fr a second cycle so it could be your off screen drain is twice as high because of that
charge up again, go through your day and save log when you're at 5% and lets see the two screenshots from just one charge cycle
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Thanks a lot! Please find my answers in sequence.
- I listen to music while going to work. But, that is, till 8:30 AM only. Yes, I have 2nd screen ON when the Main display is OFF.
- I watch stored videos during lunch (12-1pm) for around an hour but it shouldn't be using data as I am playing stored videos.
- Around 5 pm, I leave for home. Again while going home I listen to music for half an hour.
- I have no Idea of what is happening during Night because I just leave it and don't use it until morning. In fact, I have scheduled the 2nd screen to be off between 11 pm and 6 am
I will try to run a proper cycle as you have suggested and will recapture the logs.
I understand the battery dropping while I am using the phone (listening to music/watching videos/browsing/anything else). What I don't get is the battery dropping insanely when I am not using it. For example, once I reach the office, I stop the music, kill the music player and just keep the phone aside. After 1-2 hours, as I check my phone I find battery dropped by 10% or so! It's the battery drain while my phone is just lying idle that is troubling.
Also, I have noticed that once I charge my phone and then leave it (Not using it) the battery drain is minimal like 1% per hour. But, once I run some app (music/browsing etc) for a little while and then leave the phone, the idle battery drain is pretty high.
coolravsun said:
Thanks a lot! Please find my answers in sequence.
- I listen to music while going to work. But, that is, till 8:30 AM only. Yes, I have 2nd screen ON when the Main display is OFF.
- I watch stored videos during lunch (12-1pm) for around an hour but it shouldn't be using data as I am playing stored videos.
- Around 5 pm, I leave for home. Again while going home I listen to music for half an hour.
- I have no Idea of what is happening during Night because I just leave it and don't use it until morning. In fact, I have scheduled the 2nd screen to be off between 11 pm and 6 am
I will try to run a proper cycle as you have suggested and will recapture the logs.
I understand the battery dropping while I am using the phone (listening to music/watching videos/browsing/anything else). What I don't get is the battery dropping insanely when I am not using it. For example, once I reach the office, I stop the music, kill the music player and just keep the phone aside. After 1-2 hours, as I check my phone I find battery dropped by 10% or so! It's the battery drain while my phone is just lying idle that is troubling.
Also, I have noticed that once I charge my phone and then leave it (Not using it) the battery drain is minimal like 1% per hour. But, once I run some app (music/browsing etc) for a little while and then leave the phone, the idle battery drain is pretty high.
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Same sequence
- When you have the second screen on, is the phone facing up or down. What i notice with that second screen is it ignores any brightness settings. If the phone is face up and pointed at a light, the second screen becomes very bright. If its facing away from the light then it dims. Depending on how your phone faces you will either have more or less drain here, without doing anything and phone just sitting there. Typical overhead with second screen on and normal brightness ie not too bright is around 1% per hour. This could be adding to your off screen drain. Why not try a couple of cycles. One with second screen off and another with second screen on. Just to see how your off screen drain rate is like.
You say you listen to music only upto 8:30AM, take a look at the audio line. Can you see audio triggering ? there's little blips there after 8:30AM which continues till 5:30PM where its solid. This is your ride back where you listen for an hour. The 5:30 audio is ok but the blips in between are not leaving aside lunch video. Each time there is an audio blip there is a wakelock. Pay attention to the duration of the audio blip, if its a few seconds it could just be notification, but if its longer, does it correspond to your use.
Now look at the top app line, try to find which apps are running when audio triggers. To do that hover over the top app line which coincides with audio when you were not listening to audio. You will see a popup screen with a list of apps. Or check History Stats - TopApplicationSummary for a table, screen shot that and post
Do you use a lot of widgets that update in the background ?
- something was using mobile data when you were watching stored videos at lunch. Take a look at the'mobile radio active' line and you see activity there around lunch. Your wifi however is off and not running. If there were any apps running they were using mobile data, this is extra drain
- take a look at the line that says 'foreground process'. it's pretty solid right through both your runs. The only time it stops is when you recharge. This is a hint something is up. If you hover above it what does the popup say ? try moving along the line and observe whether the information changes
There shouldn't a foreground process running when you're not using the phone. Maybe if you can screen shot, the table that displays under History Stats - Foreground Process Summary
Scroll down and under the graph and on the left you will see three headers with twisties, System stats, History stats & App Stats
Hold on to your bug report files and they will be useful to verify if any changes you make take effect or not
- 1% per hour corresponds to second screen on, with it off your drain would be halved. However having drain after leaving a music or browsing app isn't good. It means a wakelock was caused and its not releasing so doze can't kick in. So battery will drain. If the phone is shaking, say in your pocket as you walk around, full doze won't kick in either
Which social media apps do you use.
Stock launcher or other if so which
I've found just buying a new battery off of ebay for $10 is the the easiest way to gain back that extra hour of on screen time and extend stand by. That's why the phone was made with a removable battery. I have 3 of them and don't need to touch a charger for a week. and when the time comes to charge the batteries, just put them in the charging docks and done.

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