Hi,
I've read all the unroot threads and I still haven't found the answer, so could someone please explain. I've decided to unroot but would really hate to have to wipe everything and set it up again.
I have a rooted 3.1 WW TF with cwm.
1. Is there a way to unroot without losing all app data etc, and then be able to use OTA to update to 3.2? I guess the first step would be to flash stock recovery but then what?
2. In the 'Batch script Pure Root Method' thread in the developers forum it was suggested that flashing stock boot and stock recovery and uninstalling the superuser app would achieve this, but from what I understand people have tried without success?
Many thanks.
Anyone?
The unroot options available on this forum don't require you to wipe the data.
Just the cache, so you won't lose your apps and/or settings.
Good luck.
Thanks locutus7o9,
However I'm still not exactly sure which of the methods allows this, I would really appreciate a link.
1. Download the firmware you wanted to downgrade to.
2. Follow the instruction here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1093403
3. No data wipe
Well i got my JB udate recently. This is the first thoughts:
1. Slow browser
2. Autodimmer problem is still there
3. fast app drawer
4. Cant feel the butter effect on this tab.
you should probably just consolidate this with the initial JB thread that came out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1914654
Auto dimmer can be disable under ASUS settings it should be around at the bottom called smart dimmer, something along that line.
If you run into problems with apps and performance, I suggest to perform a factory reset. That should clear things up and insure a clean Jelly Bean experience. Also since JB just droped this morning, don't expect it to be smooth. The new OS needs to settle before you can truly see a difference. Just wait at least 24 hours before you praise or complain about your experience. But for the meantime, I applied a cold boot after I noticed a bit of sluggishness. Seems to have fixed that. Ill probably do a factory reset if my apps act up though.
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We lose root if we do a factory reset correct?
xPSYCHOTRONx said:
We lose root if we do a factory reset correct?
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I didn't. These are the steps I took.
1. Make sure you Install and use SuperSU
2. Install Voodoo OTA root keeper. Make a backup
3. Factory reset
4. Install super SU from market
5. Install vodoo from the market.
6. restore root in voodoo
7. open supersu
Might be an easier way to do it, but that gave me no problems.
what do i use to make a backup? or do you mean back up he binary file for OTA?
xPSYCHOTRONx said:
what do i use to make a backup? or do you mean back up he binary file for OTA?
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I think he means backup meaning "protect root" with Voodoo OTA prior to factory reset.
I did not need to do anything more than that.
conquereddroiduser said:
I didn't. These are the steps I took.
1. Make sure you Install and use SuperSU
2. Install Voodoo OTA root keeper. Make a backup
3. Factory reset
4. Install super SU from market
5. Install vodoo from the market.
6. restore root in voodoo
7. open supersu
Might be an easier way to do it, but that gave me no problems.
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My root restore worked fine with Superuser.
conquereddroiduser said:
I didn't. These are the steps I took.
1. Make sure you Install and use SuperSU
2. Install Voodoo OTA root keeper. Make a backup
3. Factory reset
4. Install super SU from market
5. Install vodoo from the market.
6. restore root in voodoo
7. open supersu
Might be an easier way to do it, but that gave me no problems.
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I can protect root even from factory reset!?!?!?!?
macaumen said:
I can protect root even from factory reset!?!?!?!?
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Yes
macaumen said:
I can protect root even from factory reset!?!?!?!?
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Yes!
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Yes
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That's GREAT! I will factory reset mine after work today to have a fresh experience.
I just updated mine when I woke up early this morning lol
FYI: I activated the root protection in SuperSU and it didn't work. That was from .26 to .30, and now I'm installing JB. Rooting doesn't quite do it for me anymore anyway.
Ok sorry for nubbish, but if i do a factory reset then don't i lose all the apps i installed? if so then if i have root and protect it all etc with OTA with superSU wont those apps be gone so no more root?
Im unsure i understand how you save root after the factory reset thanks.
xPSYCHOTRONx said:
Ok sorry for nubbish, but if i do a factory reset then don't i lose all the apps i installed? if so then if i have root and protect it all etc with OTA with superSU wont those apps be gone so no more root?
Im unsure i understand how you save root after the factory reset thanks.
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Yes, a factory reset will delete your installed app including voodoo ota an supersu but once you reinstall them from the play store voodoo ota will do its thing and you will have root again
conquereddroiduser said:
I didn't. These are the steps I took.
1. Make sure you Install and use SuperSU
2. Install Voodoo OTA root keeper. Make a backup
3. Factory reset
4. Install super SU from market
5. Install vodoo from the market.
6. restore root in voodoo
7. open supersu
Might be an easier way to do it, but that gave me no problems.
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I just am wondering what is the point of the factory reset? Is it because people recommend it after updating go jb?
I think ive read that if you don't see a difference after the update in speed and whatnot that if you factory reset then its supposed to help.
So if the factory reset wipes the tablet ,were is the binary backup that OTA saved to protect root?
xPSYCHOTRONx said:
I think ive read that if you don't see a difference after the update in speed and whatnot that if you factory reset then its supposed to help.
So if the factory reset wipes the tablet ,were is the binary backup that OTA saved to protect root?
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it doesn't wipe everything, but it does wipe the data partition which is where all user installed apps are housed.
I did not lose root as I used OTA RootKeeper but the I/O scores are still horrible, Now that official JB is out, I may unlock and try Zeus, I was holding out in hopes that the stock JB would address the I/O issues but no such luck.
Can I do a factory reset after I have rooted my pad?
Will it work right? Would I get an official update?
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yes and yes. Keep your root by installing superSU, opening it, then running voodoo, and backing up your root. Might as well do the JB update first, then factory restore, then download and run superSU and voodoo again and restore root.
53fireman said:
yes and yes. Keep your root by installing superSU, opening it, then running voodoo, and backing up your root. Might as well do the JB update first, then factory restore, then download and run superSU and voodoo again and restore root.
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Thx! Mooderators can close the thread,but I think this question should appear in some main thread .
It does, numerous times, lol
What's the deal with choosing supersu over superuser?
Hello Everyone,
I have been having weird issues with root on the latest OTA update. After the update, I found that I lost root and so installed the SuperSu using TWRP recovery again. However, could not get root access back. Tried this like 3-4 times but still didn't work.
After that I took a nandroid backup (didn't have any backup till now) and wiped the cache and data. And after reboot I get root but if I restore the data partition from the nandroid backup, root is lost again.
Now I want root but don't want to get rid of the data.
Also, if its useful anyhow, in the superuser app - under su binary v2.00 "-rwxr-xr-x" is red, "root root" is green and "/system/xbin/su" is green.
Anyhelp will be much appreciated.
Thanks
Well, best way to root would be solid in losing the data and unlocking the bootloader, guaranteed to wipe you data. I'd copy your sdcard to your pc then copy it back after rooting.
You can head to the dev section to find a root and there is a method actually where they say you don't lose data; you can check that out.
Have you tried flashing SuperSU via TWRP instead and letting it update the binaries?
My XT1540/rooted/stock 6.0 ROM/ stock recovery now has an update available. I assume I can not accept this system update, even if I un-root my device. I do have a pre-rooted TWRP back up. I can reload that image, but my concern is the best way to get all my apps and data reloaded. I do have TB backups, but I thought that may not be a good option after system update. I am looking for advise how to proceed getting the latest system update and preserving all my current apps and data.
No offense, but did you Google it or search here? There are several tutorials in this device section and other similar Moto devices of the same generation that tell you different ways to do it...
Easy way... boot (not flash) TWPR, backup in TWRP, restore pre-root backup, accept OTA and allow it flash and fully boot, boot TWRP, flash your root of choice that you were using prior (Magisk or SuperSU), reboot and verify operation, then restore data partition backup you did prior to OTA, clear caches, and reboot.
This works 80% of the time... if your data partition is important then make an alternative backup.
acejavelin said:
No offense, but did you Google it or search here? There are several tutorials in this device section and other similar Moto devices of the same generation that tell you different ways to do it...
Easy way... boot (not flash) TWPR, backup in TWRP, restore pre-root backup, accept OTA and allow it flash and fully boot, boot TWRP, flash your root of choice that you were using prior (Magisk or SuperSU), reboot and verify operation, then restore data partition backup you did prior to OTA, clear caches, and reboot.
This works 80% of the time... if your data partition is important then make an alternative backup.
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Thanks. I have read conflicting information on the use of Titanium Backup, and that was my main reason for my post. My understanding of your reply is that TB would not be a recommended choice to restore apps&data (using either update.zip or batch mode) and that I have an 80% chance of restoring user apps and data by flashing the /data partition from my pre-OTA TWRP backup. And yes, I will make a pre-rooted backup prior to rooting or restoring apps.
I never heard of Magisk and will read more. In the mean time I will stick with SuperSU unless there is strong advise to go with Magisk.
MrTooPhone said:
Thanks. I have read conflicting information on the use of Titanium Backup, and that was my main reason for my post. My understanding of your reply is that TB would not be a recommended choice to restore apps&data (using either update.zip or batch mode) and that I have an 80% chance of restoring user apps and data by flashing the /data partition from my pre-OTA TWRP backup. And yes, I will make a pre-rooted backup prior to rooting or restoring apps.
I never heard of Magisk and will read more. In the mean time I will stick with SuperSU unless there is strong advise to go with Magisk.
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I dislike TiBU... It is best to reinstall from scratch each time if possible, if not, this is a simple security update to TWRP should suffice.
Magisk is good, and it appears to be the root method most ROMs are going to because with Magisk Hide and a few tweaks that are built in, the device can still pass SafetyNet API checks, and there is no special process for systemless installing (it is the only way it can be done with Magisk). But if you are on SuperSU now and want to restore the data partition, do NOT switch that way... Get clean ROM and flash Magisk then install Magisk Manager. It has it's own community here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/magisk
I am not saying Magisk is superior, but it is quite versatile and most ROMs seem to be switching to it so devices can pass SafetyNet checks.
I was also thinking this would be simple. Pleasant surprise after almost a year and a half to get a security update. So I uninstalled SuperSU (Tried Full Unroot option & it failed, so then just uninstalled the app.....Looks like I may still be rooted), re-installed the stock recovery, and with absolutely no other modifications to this phone, performed the update. So it failed. I thought I was able to do this on my Nexus 4, but that was a while back, and I always did it with a file, not OTA; maybe that was just OS update, who knows. I was just looking for some security peace of mind while waiting for Nougat to become a bit more stable. If I am going to have to go through hoops to do this, then I guess I will just wait; not going to go through this twice. Besides, will it be another year for the next security update; heck, they are already 1 or 2 months behind already.
The answer is what others said, plus you can try flashing OTA updates with flashfire, and don't choose to wipe data.
Rohi09 said:
The answer is what others said, plus you can try flashing OTA updates with flashfire, and don't choose to wipe data.
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Oh well. On a side note, always grateful for making Nandroid backups before I start playing around with anything though. Things were acting up after haphazardly trying various SuperSU options, so I had to do a restore.
These constant OTA update messages every few minutes that I have to keep canceling are brutal! I might have to install an app to kill them.
Rohi09 said:
The answer is what others said, plus you can try flashing OTA updates with flashfire, and don't choose to wipe data.
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Are you saying OTA updates can be flashed successfully without unrooting.
MrTooPhone said:
Are you saying OTA updates can be flashed successfully without unrooting.
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that's the idea, I have never tried it on moto g 2015 though. As far as I know every root solution had its own Uninstaller. which root interface do you use? magisk or supersu?
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that's the idea, I have never tried it on moto g 2015 though. As far as I know every root solution had its own Uninstaller. which root interface do you use? magisk or supersu?
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I have SuperSU. It would be great to flash an OTA over my current system, but I have heard many reports including @pjc123 above where it did not work.
All my searches resulted in suggestions in going back to stock, accept OTA, then use TB or some other similar program to restore saved apps & data. Tomorrow I will try @acejavelin 's above suggested method of flashing the /data partition. If that does not work, I will try TB. I will report my progress.
MrTooPhone said:
I have SuperSU. It would be great to flash an OTA over my current system, but I have heard many reports including @pjc123 above where it did not work.
All my searches resulted in suggestions in going back to stock, accept OTA, then use TB or some other similar program to restore saved apps & data. Tomorrow I will try @acejavelin 's above suggested method of flashing the /data partition. If that does not work, I will try TB. I will report my progress.
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you can flash unsu zip or magisk Uninstaller and try to install ota via flashfire, won't hurt trying, might save you some time.
acejavelin said:
No offense, but did you Google it or search here? There are several tutorials in this device section and other similar Moto devices of the same generation that tell you different ways to do it...
Easy way... boot (not flash) TWPR, backup in TWRP, restore pre-root backup, accept OTA and allow it flash and fully boot, boot TWRP, flash your root of choice that you were using prior (Magisk or SuperSU), reboot and verify operation, then restore data partition backup you did prior to OTA, clear caches, and reboot.
This works 80% of the time... if your data partition is important then make an alternative backup.
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Another dumb question, I am in the process of installing OTA. When I loaded the pre-root rom, I did not see any option to clear clear caches. I did see a wipe data and cache option which I understand to be a factory reset. I know I have seen it before but can't find it, so where do I clear cache after restoring data partition?
MrTooPhone said:
Another dumb question, I am in the process of installing OTA. When I loaded the pre-root rom, I did not see any option to clear clear caches. I did see a wipe data and cache option which I understand to be a factory reset. I know I have seen it before but can't find it, so where do I clear cache after restoring data partition?
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Another simple Google question...
Open TWRP, go to Wipes - Advanced, and select Cache and Dalvik cache (a misnomer today, it should be called ART cache) and swipe to wipe, then reboot.
Thanks to @acejavelin recommendations, I have successfully applied the latest system update to my XT1540. My steps were as follows:
Booted to TWRP (3.0.2-r5.img)
restored original pre-rooted ROM
rebooted, accepted system updates
backed up new pre-rooted ROM
installed SuperSU 2.62-3, rebooted
updated SuperSU to 2.79 via Playstore
restored /data partition from last saved rooted ROM
wiped Dalvik/ART Cache
Reboot system
took a while, a couple of minutes on “Hand stitched by Peter Crawly”, several minutes optimizing apps. The phone booted succesfully then I got an error message the update failed (which I hit OK) But looking at about phone, latest security patch is listed. Phone looks configured (apps, data, configuration) exactly as it was prior to the update.
Rebooted phone, all still seems fine.
Hello, how do I restore original pre-rooted ROM? When I made the backup I got a folder with 6 files:
boot.emmc.win
boot.emmc.win.md5
recovery.log
system.ext4.win
system.ext4.win.md5
system.info
None of them seems to be the .img file
bradmoss said:
Hello, how do I restore original pre-rooted ROM? When I made the backup I got a folder with 6 files:
boot.emmc.win
boot.emmc.win.md5
recovery.log
system.ext4.win
system.ext4.win.md5
system.info
None of them seems to be the .img file
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Your are not going to see an img file. Once booted into TWRP, select Restore, navigate and select your original ROM. Those files you have listed are within the restoration directory that you select with TWRP. Just select the directory with TWRP.
Bad news, I could restore pre-TRWP image using that folder and aplied the update.
But now I am in a loop, it tries to install (again) the update and then boots to TWRP
Is there any way out of this loop?
Thanks!
no idea? Am I the sad owner of a bricked phone?
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no idea? Am I the sad owner of a bricked phone?
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You could try a factory reset if you're not worried about losing your data. A factory reset solves most of the problems, though I'm a little doubtful because a factory reset won't uninstall the new update (given that it installed in the first place).
bradmoss said:
Bad news, I could restore pre-TRWP image using that folder and aplied the update.
But now I am in a loop, it tries to install (again) the update and then boots to TWRP
Is there any way out of this loop?
Thanks!
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If it boots to TWRP, sounds like you didn't have a clean pre-root ROM as you did not have stock recovery. Did you try deleting Dalvik and ART cache?