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Hi,
I have a very basic question with regards to Android OS. Why can't we easily update the Android OS to newest version; just like we do it for say a Windows PC? I understand that there are hardware limitations for OS updates.. similar to say for example Win7 not supporting older hardware. But if want to update to the newest android version for my phone.. why are there "custom ROMs" posted in forums? What are the contents that go in these Custom ROM? I am interested in the programming part of this.
Also, second question is where do I get the say for example Jelly Bean ROM that I modify to suit for my phone?
Thanks.
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MadhaviJ said:
Hi,
I have a very basic question with regards to Android OS. Why can't we easily update the Android OS to newest version; just like we do it for say a Windows PC? I understand that there are hardware limitations for OS updates.. similar to say for example Win7 not supporting older hardware. But if want to update to the newest android version for my phone.. why are there "custom ROMs" posted in forums? What are the contents that go in these Custom ROM? I am interested in the programming part of this.
Also, second question is where do I get the say for example Jelly Bean ROM that I modify to suit for my phone?
Thanks.
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Well, it depends on a whole lot of things.
1) The bootloader on the atrix2 is locked. This means that you can not actually flash a custom kernel without using something like kexec. This also means that for ANY real android updates, that they MUST come from motorola, or at least be signed by motorola (like the leaked JB asia version we have, that will NOT run on at&t phones, without major and fairly dangerous work). And Motorola abandoned this phone after ICS for the most part.
2) You can flash any "custom" rom be it based on stock or a compiled ROM like cyanogenmod, AOKP, etc. they just can not use the kernel that comes with it, and there are some very special files and trickery to make that happen when compiling the ROM.
3) This phone is locked done at more than just the bootloader, there are other parts of the phone that they have signatures on that do not allow you to go up or down in versions of android, unless you have a special developer version, or one of the MEARET/SEARET versions of the phone, or you made that fairly dangerous mod, I mentioned before.
The Custom ROMs have some nice acceleration tweaks, UI tweaks, and removal of all the crap and bloat apps that come from most providers. These "Custom" Roms are usually all opensource, just like Linux/Android, and you have the chance to customize it even farther with some C code and Java, if you like.
Here is a link to the Cyanogenmod page, and a couple other "custom" ROM pages:
http://www.cyanogenmod.org/
http://en.miui.com/
http://aokp.co/
There are many many more ^^
Now to make a custom ROM you will need a Linux install someplace (a VM at least, but the compile may run way longer), some C++ and java knowledge (even just a small amount will help a little), be good at using google to fix your compile errors, and a whole lot of patience.
I always suggest a new person who would like to learn to dev, start easy and try their hand at a stock rom first using the kitchen it is much easier, and you can do some nice things and learn. Once you get that down, and learn the trouble shooting part of ROM building, you may try your hand at "custom" ROMs, or you can do what some have done and just jump into the "custom" ROM thing, but it is a little harder, and will take more time to get it down.
You can also do as a few other have done, and learn how to port roms from other like phones, but I never could get them to function as they should with ALL parts working, there was almost always something that did not work well enough for me to want to use a ROM I ported. Though others have had huge success with this, and you could PM them to ask their secrets.
Here is my post on where to get the tools needed to start working with your stock ROM, using the kitchen and other tools with Linux:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1404442
jimbridgman said:
Well, it depends on a whole lot of things.
1) The bootloader on the atrix2 is locked. This means that you can not actually flash a custom kernel without using something like kexec. This also means that for ANY real android updates, that they MUST come from motorola, or at least be signed by motorola (like the leaked JB asia version we have, that will NOT run on at&t phones, without major and fairly dangerous work). And Motorola abandoned this phone after ICS for the most part.
2) You can flash any "custom" rom be it based on stock or a compiled ROM like cyanogenmod, AOKP, etc. they just can not use the kernel that comes with it, and there are some very special files and trickery to make that happen when compiling the ROM.
3) This phone is locked done at more than just the bootloader, there are other parts of the phone that they have signatures on that do not allow you to go up or down in versions of android, unless you have a special developer version, or one of the MEARET/SEARET versions of the phone, or you made that fairly dangerous mod, I mentioned before.
The Custom ROMs have some nice acceleration tweaks, UI tweaks, and removal of all the crap and bloat apps that come from most providers. These "Custom" Roms are usually all opensource, just like Linux/Android, and you have the chance to customize it even farther with some C code and Java, if you like.
Here is a link to the Cyanogenmod page, and a couple other "custom" ROM pages:
http://www.cyanogenmod.org/
http://en.miui.com/
http://aokp.co/
There are many many more ^^
Now to make a custom ROM you will need a Linux install someplace (a VM at least, but the compile may run way longer), some C++ and java knowledge (even just a small amount will help a little), be good at using google to fix your compile errors, and a whole lot of patience.
I always suggest a new person who would like to learn to dev, start easy and try their hand at a stock rom first using the kitchen it is much easier, and you can do some nice things and learn. Once you get that down, and learn the trouble shooting part of ROM building, you may try your hand at "custom" ROMs, or you can do what some have done and just jump into the "custom" ROM thing, but it is a little harder, and will take more time to get it down.
You can also do as a few other have done, and learn how to port roms from other like phones, but I never could get them to function as they should with ALL parts working, there was almost always something that did not work well enough for me to want to use a ROM I ported. Though others have had huge success with this, and you could PM them to ask their secrets.
Here is my post on where to get the tools needed to start working with your stock ROM, using the kitchen and other tools with Linux:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1404442
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Thanks Jim. That was very helpful. I'm going through the links that you've provided and find them useful.
Any more questions... I'll post them in this thread.
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Hello all. How are ya's today. I was wondering what I can do with my tablet. I bought it in haste really cause it was cheap. It is running android 4.0.4 The tablet itself is a HS-9DTB4 8gb hipstreet flare. It came rooted already so that is already done. What can I do with it. Can I upgrade the android or replace it with something. I would like to use it for business purposes but can't find the right apps for it I want. Any suggestions. ??
No one has ideas ??
1bigguy said:
Hello all. How are ya's today. I was wondering what I can do with my tablet. I bought it in haste really cause it was cheap. It is running android 4.0.4 The tablet itself is a HS-9DTB4 8gb hipstreet flare. It came rooted already so that is already done. What can I do with it. Can I upgrade the android or replace it with something. I would like to use it for business purposes but can't find the right apps for it I want. Any suggestions. ??
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there could be lots of things you can do with a rooted device, problem is you need a custom recovery, (for restoration and backup purposes) generic tablets like your most of the time dont get one. you can go onto the play store and just type in root and there will be a huge number of apps you can use, read the desc to make sure you meet the requirements, lots of people screw up on that.
Where would I get a custom recovery...from the people that make the device or is there a place on the play store to get it for this device. "Read the Desc"...what is that. ?? As long as I don't brick the tablet I don't really care what I do to it. I called hipstreet and they say there are no more updates for this tablet at all so either I do something or I get to use what I have forever, lol. I don't wanna do that.
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Where would I get a custom recovery...from the people that make the device or is there a place on the play store to get it for this device. "Read the Desc"...what is that. ?? As long as I don't brick the tablet I don't really care what I do to it. I called hipstreet and they say there are no more updates for this tablet at all so either I do something or I get to use what I have forever, lol. I don't wanna do that.
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Custom recovery is cwm, clockworkmod, google and see if a version exists for your device. Rooting gives superuser permission which is extremely powerful, it removes all safeguards that prevent a user from destroying their system, downloading the wrong app or pushing a wrong option can instantly brick a device, which is why custom Recovery's exist, they back up the entire system not just /data but also /system and others. If you do not know what any of this means then i would suggest not messing with root access.
And read the desc means read the description, it is the mass of words under an app in the play store or app thread that outline use, require my a, what not to do and other good stuff
Please quote me in replies.
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Custom recovery is cwm, clockworkmod, google and see if a version exists for your device. Rooting gives superuser permission which is extremely powerful, it removes all safeguards that prevent a user from destroying their system, downloading the wrong app or pushing a wrong option can instantly brick a device, which is why custom Recovery's exist, they back up the entire system not just /data but also /system and others. If you do not know what any of this means then i would suggest not messing with root access.
And read the desc means read the description, it is the mass of words under an app in the play store or app thread that outline use, require my a, what not to do and other good stuff
Please quote me in replies.
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A Custom Recovery is not CWM, CWM is one of the few Custom recovery we have, but pretty much what he said, the only way you would get a recovery is for someone to make one witch i doubt anyone has for your specific tablet.
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Custom Recovery is not CWM, CWM is one of the few Custom recovery we have, but pretty much what he said, the only way you would get a recovery is for someone to make one witch i doubt anyone has for your specific tablet.
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Cwm or twrp are the main ones, if someone says custom recovery most will say cwm, i was just trying to keep it relatively simple.
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So basically there is nothing I can do with it unless someone has made an image specifically for this device, which I to doubt anyone will do. It's not a high end tablet so there is no reason for anyone to in the first place. Is there anyway to update the existing android o/s on it or no. ??
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I actually just found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2172412
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So basically there is nothing I can do with it unless someone has made an image specifically for this device, which I to doubt anyone will do. It's not a high end tablet so there is no reason for anyone to in the first place. Is there anyway to update the existing android o/s on it or no. ??
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I actually just found this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2172412
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well from the thread it looks like it might be your device, you should ask the person if its for your model only, i searched and it seems like there is a few different ones. otherwise it looks like this is what you need if its for your tablet.
Now that's just for recovery right. ?? How do I find out what else I can load onto my tablet. ??
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Now that's just for recovery right. ?? How do I find out what else I can load onto my tablet. ??
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so if you get this recovery what your going to do is make a backup so you can always restore to when you do something wrong (for safe purposes) then apps that need root will let you use them, as for the update i doubt someone made a rom aswell, if theres no recovery theres no way people have made a rom for the tablet.
Ok, So I guess I will go on a bit of a search then to see what I can find. So not just ANY rom will do. It has to be made for this specific tablet. Like I couldn't say try and load windows on it or something silly like that. ??
Correct. Regardless of anything else you can only run code that's compiled for that.machine ... and I assume you Microsoft doesn't compile Windows for that thing.
You may want to look for a different tablet that's a clone of yours. A lot of the cheap tablets share hardware designs and are identical inside.
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Correct. Regardless of anything else you can only run code that's compiled for that.machine ... and I assume you Microsoft doesn't compile Windows for that thing.
You may want to look for a different tablet that's a clone of yours. A lot of the cheap tablets share hardware designs and are identical inside.
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So I should be looking more at what hardware it has in it to figure out a rom for it. ??
There's been a lot of changes since I posted this thread!
We've now got a rom for LineageOS 14.X based on Nougat which can be found in its own thread here!
This thread is still useful because it provides links to the history of how the tablet was rooted and how we were able to get a custom recovery but all discussion on the LineageOS rom should take place in that thread from now on. When new roms are created I will add them to this first post for posterity so everyone can find them. Does anyone know how to best request our own forum? I think we're starting to get big enough one would be of use...
bornagainpenguin said:
Here's what we have so far....
First we unlock the bootloader, explained here. Thanks for the easy to follow summary, 20tibby_gt06!
Extracted stock recovery here. Thanks jmo!
Stock image with root and updates. Can be fastboot flashed here. Another debt of gratitude to jmo!
Working TWRP recovery image here. Thank you bbelos for getting this working for us!
A listing of items you might wish to freeze upon rooting here. Thanks Pegasus Epsilon for posting this!
Another list of apps you might wish to freeze or remove here. This time courtesy of GartimusPrime
Lineage ROM, Build one Current Build: lineage-13.0-20170219-UNOFFICIAL-x103f.zip All hail bbelos for hacking away at this and sharing the results!
As per usual all things related to rooting and installing roms is at the users' own risk. You also assume the responsibilities of administering your own hardware when you seize administrative rights and control. Be careful and responsible when undertaking any actions. These links are intended to help find discussed items in the thread, not act as an HOWTO. You must do your reading before acting on anything or the brick you create will be yours to hold.
PS: What else do we need to petition for an official section for our tablet? We've got root, unlocked the bootloader, and a mostly functional rom created via Lineage by that wonderful individual known as bbelos. What else do we need?
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bornagainpenguin said:
I've searched and searched the site and Google for answers before giving up and posting this thread.
I picked up the new Walmart Black Friday tablet, which is known as Lenovo TB-X103F or model ZA1U0000US depending on where you look. I'm mostly satisfied with it as is, but I desperately miss my adblocker and my xposed framework features, as well as the ability to move updated apks to the system partition so as to not have redundant apps wasting space.
Unfortunately there is very little information available about this tablet.
Walmart.com listing
Energy Star page.
Lenovo's own website doesn't seem to have much mention of it beyond the source code dump listed here. I run Ubuntu on my laptop and my TV box for Kodi but I couldn't tell you if the code has everything and it would be possible for someone to build something or if it's missing critical information making hopes of a new community rom or cyanogenmod rom impossible. Does anyone else have this model tablet and know how to root it, put in a recovery? The one that comes with the device is in Chinese so I powered it off because I wasn't sure how else to get out of there.
Thanks in advance for all help given.
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yes i am trying to figure out how to root this tablet but i am having no luck. i hope their are some solutions
volkstony said:
yes i am trying to figure out how to root this tablet but i am having no luck. i hope their are some solutions
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Do you have a Windows machine? Have you given Kingoroot a try from Windows yet?
I don't have a Windows box so I haven't tried it yet.
I did notice there's an option in Developer Options to allow OEM unlocking, which allows the bootloader to be unlocked but am not sure if it actually does anything or not.
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yes i have a windows laptop. i have had no luck with either versions of kingo root on this tablet. all my android items have been rooted and upgraded with no issues but this tablet has not been cooperating at all lol. i hope someone will have a solution for this tablet soon.
I also bought one of these "Lenovo TAB 10 (TB-X103X)" tablets from WallyMart for $100. It is an apparently excellent tablet, perfect for my intended purpose. Great screen albeit only 800 lines but rich colors and bright. And it is speedy.
I tried the following to root it with no success:
Towelroot: tr.apkKingroot: KingoRoot.apkKingroot: via ADB
Booting the tab into it's stock "Recovery(?)" (power + volume down) confronts the user with a Chinese language "Recovery" (in quotes because I don't read Chinese so it actually could be saying anything like "ROOT? HAHAHA"):
Here's a link to a picture of the recovery screen: tinyurl.com/jhfwgt7
Anyone care to translate into English? Please? Is one of these options for the purpose of installing a .zip file (like SuperSU)?
Another thing to try is installing a custom Recovery like TWRP and from that installing SuperSU. I have little confidence that TWRP will install on this device so using the stock recovery may be a better option, if it is an option at all.
I did manage to unlock the bootloader on mine (I think). I have not tried any root options without a firmware backup method in fear of a bootloop. Especially since it is my wife's haha!
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I was able to get the bootloader unlocked as well and have since confirmed that it is unlocked. However, I believe that is just the first step. We need a custom recovery made for it and then we should have no problem getting root. I don't know what is required to make a custom recovery but since the source code is available, it seems like this is something that someone smarter than I might be able to accomplish. Anyone know anything about custom recoveries?
Jonathan
Hm, same issue here, would love a way to root.
Also, I can't seem to enable multi-window mode, even in Developer mode. Any suggestions?
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This is an image of what I see when I boot from a shut down tablet with the volume down button and the power button held down. Does anyone read enough Chinese to tell us what it says?
Doing the boot from a shut down tablet and volume up and power button held gives a different screen, which is in English and resembles Clockwise recovery.
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bornagainpenguin said:
This is an image of what I see when I boot from a shut down tablet with the volume down button and the power button held down. Does anyone read enough Chinese to tell us what it says?
Doing the boot from a shut down tablet and volume up and power button held gives a different screen, which is in English and resembles Clockwise recovery.
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Good find. However, it seems to just be a diagnostic app.
1) Display backlight
2) Button
3) Motor
4) Display
5) After the camera (I am guessing back camera)
6) Front Camera
7) Speaker
8) Headset
etc...
I just used an app that would translate the text. Good to know but probably not helpful in obtaining root.
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Root/Recovery Bounty?
I could really use these tablet for a project that I am working on. However, I need root and custom recovery. It is a pretty nice tablet, especially for the price. I picked it up at my local Wal-mart for $79. They still have a stack of them. I have heard of people putting out "bounties" for rooting, etc. I am not rich, but I would be willing to put up some money. I could even provide a device to a qualified person to experiment on. Any other interest in adding to the bounty?
Well a good place for you guys to start would be finding out if the device bootloader is locked. If you have windows (don't know if you can do this on MAC or Ubuntu) you can download the Android SDK and when connected to the device with debugging enabled type in CMD in the adb and fastboot folder "fastboot oem status" to possibly find out if its locked and "fastboot oem unlock" to unlock it if you're willing to take the risk.
Get back to me with your thoughts on this and if this works and unlocks it/its already unlocked, check if the device has an MTK Chipset. If it does there's a tool to make custom CWM Recovery's for MTK devices and you could flash a SuperSU zip from there.
Best of luck guys!
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Well a good place for you guys to start would be finding out if the device bootloader is locked. If you have windows (don't know if you can do this on MAC or Ubuntu) you can download the Android SDK and when connected to the device with debugging enabled type in CMD in the adb and fastboot folder "fastboot oem status" to possibly find out if its locked and "fastboot oem unlock" to unlock it if you're willing to take the risk.
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Don't currently have access to a Windows machine at moment. My stuff is all Linux or my MacBook (which I'm increasingly developing a loathing for). I take it that the 'unlock bootloader' option in Developer Options is not really something that does anything then?
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Get back to me with your thoughts on this and if this works and unlocks it/its already unlocked, check if the device has an MTK Chipset. If it does there's a tool to make custom CWM Recovery's for MTK devices and you could flash a SuperSU zip from there.
Best of luck guys!
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OK, this I can answer. It has a Snapdragon 210 not an MTK. People were ragging down the tablet before Black Friday because of that so it stuck in my memory.
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bornagainpenguin said:
. I take it that the 'unlock bootloader' option in Developer Options is not really something that does anything then?.
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I really couldn't tell you if the unlock bootloader in developer options would really unlock it (though it defiantly would make sense to!) without checking the status in CMD.
If the "device status" CMD doesn't work then I'm pretty sure it means there isn't a bootloader lock/its always unlocked. There is an alternative for Mac and Linux os's to do this I think but I can't remember how its done. (Worst case scenario use a virtual machine to run these tests in windows).
After we figure this out, since you said you can't find anything on this tablet, there probably isn't a custom recovery. (There is a tool to make Recovery's but its for MTK chipsets, although there may be a tool or something now for snapdragon chips to make them).
If you are able to look into checking the lock status using Mac/Linux and you find it's unlocked/unlockable, then there is also a way for Mac and Linux (or a virtual machine) to push a superuser zip with the CMD.
Let me know if what I wrote wasn't straightforward enough because I confused myself a bit even writing it lol.
Best of luck!
Bootloader can be unlocked - Confirmed
Rooted Droid said:
I really couldn't tell you if the unlock bootloader in developer options would really unlock it (though it defiantly would make sense to!) without checking the status in CMD.
If the "device status" CMD doesn't work then I'm pretty sure it means there isn't a bootloader lock/its always unlocked. There is an alternative for Mac and Linux os's to do this I think but I can't remember how its done. (Worst case scenario use a virtual machine to run these tests in windows).
After we figure this out, since you said you can't find anything on this tablet, there probably isn't a custom recovery. (There is a tool to make Recovery's but its for MTK chipsets, although there may be a tool or something now for snapdragon chips to make them).
If you are able to look into checking the lock status using Mac/Linux and you find it's unlocked/unlockable, then there is also a way for Mac and Linux (or a virtual machine) to push a superuser zip with the CMD.
Let me know if what I wrote wasn't straightforward enough because I confused myself a bit even writing it lol.
Best of luck!
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I can confirm that the bootload can be easily unlocked. I have done this with my device and verified the status.
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Rooted Droid said:
I really couldn't tell you if the unlock bootloader in developer options would really unlock it (though it defiantly would make sense to!) without checking the status in CMD.
If the "device status" CMD doesn't work then I'm pretty sure it means there isn't a bootloader lock/its always unlocked. There is an alternative for Mac and Linux os's to do this I think but I can't remember how its done. (Worst case scenario use a virtual machine to run these tests in windows).
After we figure this out, since you said you can't find anything on this tablet, there probably isn't a custom recovery. (There is a tool to make Recovery's but its for MTK chipsets, although there may be a tool or something now for snapdragon chips to make them).
If you are able to look into checking the lock status using Mac/Linux and you find it's unlocked/unlockable, then there is also a way for Mac and Linux (or a virtual machine) to push a superuser zip with the CMD.
Let me know if what I wrote wasn't straightforward enough because I confused myself a bit even writing it lol.
Best of luck!
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I have tried flashing SuperSU on my device both before and after bootloader unlock. The factory recovery will only flash ZIP that are signed with their signature, so despite having the bootloader unlocked, I think we need a custom recovery to gain root access. Does anyone know of a recovery for the same chip? I am willing to put mine at risk, I just haven't found an option.
jmo said:
I can confirm that the bootload can be easily unlocked. I have done this with my device and verified the status.
I have tried flashing SuperSU on my device both before and after bootloader unlock. The factory recovery will only flash ZIP that are signed with their signature, so despite having the bootloader unlocked, I think we need a custom recovery to gain root access. Does anyone know of a recovery for the same chip? I am willing to put mine at risk, I just haven't found an option.
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That's good news to hear its unlocked, nothing will ever flash in a stock recovery unfortunately unless developed by the OEM, so now its the more difficult part.. I did a quick look around and I can't seem to find a recovery. I found out though, if you can find a recovery with the same chipset and the same resolution, it's able to be ported. (Pretty sure I read somewhere that twrp can't be ported so it'd have to be cwm, phillz or another one. Not entirely sure though).
A lot of the ones I came across while looking for a portable recovery were all guides for MTK devices and I haven't found a snapdragon one yet :/.
Also I appreciate you willing to put your device at risk, but I want to be damn sure its right first otherwise its not worth messing up your tablet!
We're making good progress here now
Any recoveries?
Rooted Droid said:
That's good news to hear its unlocked, nothing will ever flash in a stock recovery unfortunately unless developed by the OEM, so now its the more difficult part.. I did a quick look around and I can't seem to find a recovery. I found out though, if you can find a recovery with the same chipset and the same resolution, it's able to be ported. (Pretty sure I read somewhere that twrp can't be ported so it'd have to be cwm, phillz or another one. Not entirely sure though).
A lot of the ones I came across while looking for a portable recovery were all guides for MTK devices and I haven't found a snapdragon one yet :/.
Also I appreciate you willing to put your device at risk, but I want to be damn sure its right first otherwise its not worth messing up your tablet!
We're making good progress here now
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Anyone who finds any recoveries that are similar in hardware, please let me know.
jmo said:
I could really use these tablet for a project that I am working on. However, I need root and custom recovery. It is a pretty nice tablet, especially for the price. I picked it up at my local Wal-mart for $79. They still have a stack of them. I have heard of people putting out "bounties" for rooting, etc. I am not rich, but I would be willing to put up some money. I could even provide a device to a qualified person to experiment on. Any other interest in adding to the bounty?
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I went by WallyMart to buy (another)one for my wife. Was the $79. you paid a day sale or something? They're $99 in TX.
Local Wal-mart
pwillikers said:
I went by WallyMart to buy (another)one for my wife. Was the $79. you paid a day sale or something? They're $99 in TX.
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My local Wal-mart just has a stack of them out on the counter (approx 20) with the $79 price on them. They aren't going very fast but they don't have any display models out and you would have to look for them to find them.
I have a Wacom Cintiq Companion Hybrid ( DTH-A1300L ) android version needs help in so many ways. I bought it because I really need one for one of my jobs, yet can't really afford the crazy overpriced insanity that is a new Wacom so the reason it was so cheap was "can't connect to the Play Store. I know, hella foolish, I thought I could fix it by rooting it, but this thing is like level 10 as there is so little info as no one wanted to touch them it seems. I did find one guy on this forum that at one point rooted I am fair to average at rooting and the understanding of all that surrounds it. I have happily and successfully rooted my phones and tablet but I am no pro and fairly good at having gaping invisible holes in my info or logic when it comes to things like this.
Most frustrating is this thing is stuck on android 4 . 1 . 1 for no good reason I can imagine. It has dev tools installed after factory data reset but no google apps. (It arrived factory data reset)
I tried the relevant framework and store and the delete the cache trick to no avail. It can not update and can not even get to the Play Store.
Sooo the bad news is; no Google apps. No updates offered and stuck on some weird what looks like not stock version of 4 .1 .1 Jellybean.
When I plug it into my PC via USB it does not even show up in device manager.
The good news is I rooted it. Checked with root checker (unfortunately for now its Kingroot)
1. I have no idea how to make a back up from here. (no USB connection to PC issue)
or
2. what rom will work as my device is not listed on any of them. It would be great to find the stock rom as I am afraid this things cool and weird cintiq mode, pen function like abilities may be disabled or rendered useless with just any android rom.
Is there anyway to somehow find the stock OS on my device through boot loader? A place to find my stock or like rom. A clever work around?
Thanks in advance. for any who take up the challenge and offer any help or thoughts.
Cheers
Anyone know
What clockwork or custom recovery should I use?
Duende101 said:
I have a Wacom Cintiq Companion Hybrid ( DTH-A1300L ) android version needs help in so many ways. I bought it because I really need one for one of my jobs, yet can't really afford the crazy overpriced insanity that is a new Wacom so the reason it was so cheap was "can't connect to the Play Store. I know, hella foolish, I thought I could fix it by rooting it, but this thing is like level 10 as there is so little info as no one wanted to touch them it seems. I did find one guy on this forum that at one point rooted I am fair to average at rooting and the understanding of all that surrounds it. I have happily and successfully rooted my phones and tablet but I am no pro and fairly good at having gaping invisible holes in my info or logic when it comes to things like this.
Most frustrating is this thing is stuck on android 4 . 1 . 1 for no good reason I can imagine. It has dev tools installed after factory data reset but no google apps. (It arrived factory data reset)
I tried the relevant framework and store and the delete the cache trick to no avail. It can not update and can not even get to the Play Store.
Sooo the bad news is; no Google apps. No updates offered and stuck on some weird what looks like not stock version of 4 .1 .1 Jellybean.
When I plug it into my PC via USB it does not even show up in device manager.
The good news is I rooted it. Checked with root checker (unfortunately for now its Kingroot)
1. I have no idea how to make a back up from here. (no USB connection to PC issue)
or
2. what rom will work as my device is not listed on any of them. It would be great to find the stock rom as I am afraid this things cool and weird cintiq mode, pen function like abilities may be disabled or rendered useless with just any android rom.
Is there anyway to somehow find the stock OS on my device through boot loader? A place to find my stock or like rom. A clever work around?
Thanks in advance. for any who take up the challenge and offer any help or thoughts.
Cheers
Anyone know
What clockwork or custom recovery should I use?
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Greetings and welcome to assist. If you have root yoy can try installing gapps through flashify it may work. For custom rom there is an excellent guide here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/chef-central/android/guide-android-rom-development-t2814763
and for custom recovery an excellent guide here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/guide-how-to-compile-twrp-source-step-t3404024
Good luck
Sawdoctor
sawdoctor said:
Greetings and welcome to assist. If you have root yoy can try installing gapps through flashify it may work. For custom rom there is an excellent guide here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/chef-central/android/guide-android-rom-development-t2814763
and for custom recovery an excellent guide here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/guide-how-to-compile-twrp-source-step-t3404024
Good luck
Sawdoctor
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Thanks, I will see what I can find out and report back. Also editing from device to check date
sawdoctor said:
Greetings and welcome to assist. If you have root yoy can try installing gapps through flashify it may work. For custom rom there is an excellent guide here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/chef-central/android/guide-android-rom-development-t2814763
and for custom recovery an excellent guide here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/guide-how-to-compile-twrp-source-step-t3404024
Good luck
Sawdoctor
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Excuse my noobness. Flashify looks good, I installed it, but don't I need some image from somewhere either the stock OS or a new one for it to work? Not sure how to get Gapps from there.
It did I think, find something, a "restore kernel" and "stock recovery" I am unsure did it find my stock kernel and recovery and or ROM and I should boot from that? ( again apologies a-lot of new info and its getting a bit swirly) In otherwords since my device is not listed any where and at this point any working Android version will do, I am wrong to try and reboot from this? These devices are supposed to come stock on 4.2.2, so I am hoping perhaps incorrectly it will go back to that? That would be ideal at this point.
So I can work again whatever works.
Also I a bit concerned about the "date" I posted from on one of these. I think I posted from the Wacom. Perhaps the problem in deeper than I thought as that is Linux time 0?
I think it self corrected but originally it said I posted on Jan 1 1970...
As for custom ROM, I probably wont be able to make my own custom ROM, even though I would love to take to the time to learn, for now I have too many art and work related deadlines.
I was hoping for one that already existed that would work with my device.
Perhaps I misunderstood something about how all this works? Also I do not have Unbuntu. I should as I support an open internet, but WINE really does not run the Adobe products I need for work so
I am stuck with Windows.
Duende101 said:
Excuse my noobness. Flashify looks good, I installed it, but don't I need some image from somewhere either the stock OS or a new one for it to work? Not sure how to get Gapps from there.
It did I think, find something, a "restore kernel" and "stock recovery" I am unsure did it find my stock kernel and recovery and or ROM and I should boot from that? ( again apologies a-lot of new info and its getting a bit swirly) In otherwords since my device is not listed any where and at this point any working Android version will do, I am wrong to try and reboot from this? These devices are supposed to come stock on 4.2.2, so I am hoping perhaps incorrectly it will go back to that? That would be ideal at this point.
So I can work again whatever works.
Also I a bit concerned about the "date" I posted from on one of these. I think I posted from the Wacom. Perhaps the problem in deeper than I thought as that is Linux time 0?
I think it self corrected but originally it said I posted on Jan 1 1970...
As for custom ROM, I probably wont be able to make my own custom ROM, even though I would love to take to the time to learn, for now I have too many art and work related deadlines.
I was hoping for one that already existed that would work with my device.
Perhaps I misunderstood something about how all this works? Also I do not have Unbuntu. I should as I support an open internet, but WINE really does not run the Adobe products I need for work so
I am stuck with Windows.
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If you just want to be able to install apps from the playstore then this is a simple alternative
https://www.xda-developers.com/unshackle-your-device-from-the-google-play-store-with-apkupdater/
If your phone is rooted then flashify can flash zips like gapps without the need for a custom recovery. If you are serious about trying to make your own rom/recovery then use a virtualbox in windows. http://www.osboxes.org/ has plenty of prebuilt virtual linux machines that will run on windows
Regards
Sawdoctor
I appreciate all your help. I got the "google of every kind from Gapps on has stopped" is over, which was intense as it popped up every few seconds, I somehow got that to quit by reloading the proper one from the APK Pure app which was an odd work around but nothing else was working. Still have this unsettling bare bones screen and none of the stock apps as well as it being stuck in 4.1.1. This device was made for 4.2. and I assume it was on here at one point.
I wonder if that alone could cause hardware issues. I thought about taking out the battery, until I realized that thing is inaccessible as a thing can be without wrecking the industrial glues and taking the entire thing apart which sounds
like an accident waiting to happen and possible making things worse. I imagine that is last case scenario.
Like I said I would love to make my stock reload, at this point that would be great as this thing seems unstable and no trick makes the play store work or allow me to sign into the device with my google email.
I think you are saying to make my own recovery/ROM of my own device I need to do the virtual box thing. Correct? Or is that for writing your own custom ROM? I can try that; make my own recovery that is, as it is not on CWM or TWRPs supported devices list so I have no choice and all in all would prefer the thing to load as if it was fresh out of the box not this 4.1. One serious hiccup I have found trying to use my PC is my device is not recognized as a storage device or otherwise. Not sure if this is due to the weird settings of Cintiq mode or simply because the thing is in a very weird state of 4.1.1. So that may make making changes via computer impossible. I am not the type to give up. Thanks again Saw
Here also is a sum up I added to a the just basic question of Can you find the Stock from a recovery device. Basically is there any way to return a device to stock with no ROMs available to do so, as in extract if from the device itself.
Additional backstory if helpful.
"I have a Wacom Cintiq Hybrid running Android 4.1 that is ( now ) rooted..
This is a very bad thing. The Real Stock ROM has palm rejection and all the drivers to make it work as a tool. So stock is the ideal but it is clearly not stock as my device supposedly came in the
box running 4.2 and with software and drivers to make it work properly with the pen. This has nothing. No software and the smallest amount of apps possible. Worse this is no custom ROM its on ( I think) as it would be the worst one ever and it was not rooted on arrival. I have no idea what happened before I got it. I may have made the mistake of rooting it really as I found out to my dismay there is no ROM support. So back to square one. I bought it ( very cheap for one of these ) "stuck and unable to go to the play store" and I did not realize until I got it, on a version of Android it was not meant for. Wacom is totally and woefully unhelpful in every way. They seem to want to quietly put this device behind them at the expense literally of their customers."
Hi,
I'm MadWolF_x. My Question is - Is there Any beta version for k20Pro/Mi9T which doesn't Require Pc and Other things? Just download Package and install.
Not me alone, there are lots and lots of people Asks and Seeks this question.
madwolfbad1 said:
Hi,
I'm MadWolF_x. My Question is - Is there Any beta version for k20Pro/Mi9T which doesn't Require Pc and Other things? Just download Package and install.
Not me alone, there are lots and lots of people Asks and Seeks this question.
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If there are that many people looking for it and none have found it, then that is quite a bit of evidence that suggests it probably doesn't exist, otherwise, one of you would have found something.
If you are like the rest of us and use mobile devices all the time and you want to be able to flash, update, modify or repair the devices yourself then you need to invest in a PC whether you like it or not. If you do not want to invest in a PC then be prepared to not be able to do these kinds of things with your devices.
Droidriven said:
If there are that many people looking for it and none have found it, then that is quite a bit of evidence that suggests it probably doesn't exist, otherwise, one of you would have found something.
If you are like the rest of us and use mobile devices all the time and you want to be able to flash, update, modify or repair the devices yourself then you need to invest in a PC whether you like it or not. If you do not want to invest in a PC then be prepared to not be able to do these kinds of things with your devices.
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Oh Good God. I just did. And thank you for letting me know that there are * None * how about I create one? Ttyl soon Senior Member
madwolfbad1 said:
Oh Good God. I just did. And thank you for letting me know that there are * None * how about I create one? Ttyl soon Senior Member
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It may out there, who knows? It doesn't hurt to keep looking. As for making your own, as far as I know, there is no way to officially sign whatever you might create in order for it to flash at all via stock recovery, adb sideload or stock system update center.
Droidriven said:
It may out there, who knows? It doesn't hurt to keep looking. As for making your own, as far as I know, there is no way to officially sign whatever you might create in order for it to flash at all via stock recovery, adb sideload or stock system update center.
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Don't get hurt man. As we all own flagships and some of us doesn't like what rom we use. I've been reading threads after threads, doing things my own, sleepless nights, weeks!!!! At some point i thought lets just post something which is most searched.
Reaching Finish line sometimes looks tough but i believe maybe I can. And don't get offended about what i wrote because * Own A Pc * comment made me go nuts. Not everyone knows about xda. They search on YouTube. Instead of reading people chooses to listen. I know how it feels to actually reading what you wrote. Well i should be thankful to those who made me feel bad, cause if i Never felt bad, i would never had any clue about my true potential.
I work alone, i don't have people helping me out. I've never found someone who works more for others, never found someone who can handle mental pressure like i do. And definitely, you will never know with whom you had this conversation \Peace/
madwolfbad1 said:
Don't get hurt man. As we all own flagships and some of us doesn't like what rom we use. I've been reading threads after threads, doing things my own, sleepless nights, weeks!!!! At some point i thought lets just post something which is most searched.
Reaching Finish line sometimes looks tough but i believe maybe I can. And don't get offended about what i wrote because * Own A Pc * comment made me go nuts. Not everyone knows about xda. They search on YouTube. Instead of reading people chooses to listen. I know how it feels to actually reading what you wrote. Well i should be thankful to those who made me feel bad, cause if i Never felt bad, i would never had any clue about my true potential.
I work alone, i don't have people helping me out. I've never found someone who works more for others, never found someone who can handle mental pressure like i do. And definitely, you will never know with whom you had this conversation \Peace/
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Can you unlock your bootloader or is it already unlocked? If either of these is yes then you have a chance if the stock source code for your device is available. If the stock source is available, you might be able to build your own custom recovery and custom ROMs. If the stock source code isn't available then true custom ROMs are out of the question but you could still try making your own modified stock ROMs using your stock ROM as a base then modifying it with elements from other devices that have your exact same CPU architecture/chipset. Or you could port stock ROMs from other similar devices with the same architecture/chipset using your device's stock ROM as a source to convert the other device's ROM to be compatible with your device. Mind you that any part of all of that will require an unlocked bootloader and TWRP custom recovery.
You can also try finding a GSI ROM that is compatible with your device's CPU architecture/chipset but that will also require unlocked bootloader and TWRP.
Well, Thank you
Droidriven said:
Can you unlock your bootloader or is it already unlocked? If either of these is yes then you have a chance if the stock source code for your device is available. If the stock source is available, you might be able to build your own custom recovery and custom ROMs. If the stock source code isn't available then true custom ROMs are out of the question but you could still try making your own modified stock ROMs using your stock ROM as a base then modifying it with elements from other devices that have your exact same CPU architecture/chipset. Or you could port stock ROMs from other similar devices with the same architecture/chipset using your device's stock ROM as a source to convert the other device's ROM to be compatible with your device. Mind you that any part of all of that will require an unlocked bootloader and TWRP custom recovery.
You can also try finding a GSI ROM that is compatible with your device's CPU architecture/chipset but that will also require unlocked bootloader and TWRP.
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Well thank you. That was helpful. Everyone is trying almost same thing. I'm trying something which is unique and different. Can't say much. Publicly i don't post anything, or write. This post was worth it. Being only a listener is bad which i Realized.
Your an Amazing Person, be Amazing. Will you please leave your personal email address? Thanks