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differences between ics roms

are there any noticeable differences between the hell fire sandwich and eaglesblood rom

Nope
Very minor tweaks like Conf, init.d, or build.prop but never notice much diff between then. Kernels give you more difference but even then it's not much

I've tried them both out for myself and out of both I'd say go with Eaglesblood. The battery life seems much better than Hellfire Sandwich and it's the smoothest of all ICS ROMs I've tried so far. But other than that, they're all ICS 4.0.3 so there's not that big a difference otherwise.

just try a few out, make a backup in CWM and start flashing away
test em out for a while, read at least the 5 last pages in each thread to find common issues, and decide for yourself

The only one that's REALLY different is probably AOKP. It's much more customizable than CM9.
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I've used both for over a week each and my phone definitely likes EB better. Both are very good smooth builds, but EB with Faux kernel worked best on my G2x out of all ICS ROM+Kernel combos. But like Klathmon said, try em all. Thats more fun than asking.

FatalityBoyZahy said:
The only one that's REALLY different is probably AOKP. It's much more customizable than CM9.
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I'm gonna have to second this one, if you guys haven't tried it, sit down and mess with it for an hour or so.
I can honestly say that I will start choosing my new phones based on what they support... Its really that different!

The latest AOKP build is version 4.0.4 and it seems noticeably smoother. It seems to work better with Trinity also, in my experience anyway.

Caliyork said:
The latest AOKP build is version 4.0.4 and it seems noticeably smoother. It seems to work better with Trinity also, in my experience anyway.
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Where did you manage to find Trinity for CM9? I can only find it for CM7
in the site.

Pretty sure they are all very similar beside battery performance, like the poster above said, EB has better battery performance.
btw, I decided to go to several different cell phone stores and check out the real ICS galaxy nexus right, and you know what? IT IS ACTUALLY CHOPPY!!!!!
They dont even have widgets on the homescreen, and it is still choppy for some reason......their default launcher suck dicks basically.
Also, I downloaded antutu on their phones too, and guess what, the score on stock rom stock voltage ics 4.0.3, stock launcher everything stock, is only on par with my stock [email protected] running EB ICS....I am starting to wonder why in the **** their stock roms are so damn slow when we didnt even have a complete source from cm9....
ok i am done ranting, sorry about that lol.

Samuka97 said:
Where did you manage to find Trinity for CM9? I can only find it for CM7
in the site.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23350450
Flash away, friend.

[Q] Whats the advantage of all these AOSP Roms

Just wondering what the advantage is of all these AOSP Roms available in the developer section?
Are these better for the developers or the users?
I ask because it seems these ROMs dont support things like the dock, asus keyboard, don't have those nice Asus apps or google apps.
I know I can flash gapps but no idea about the rest..
I flashed an AOSP a while ago and found so many things just didnt work so I avoid them now...
It would be good if they could mention in the title if their ROM is AOSP or not.
Maybe I got this all wrong and you're welcome to educate me

Malandro2011 said:
Just wondering what the advantage is of all these AOSP Roms available in the developer section?
Are these better for the developers or the users?
I ask because it seems these ROMs dont support things like the dock, asus keyboard, don't have those nice Asus apps or google apps.
I know I can flash gapps but no idea about the rest..
I flashed an AOSP a while ago and found so many things just didnt work so I avoid them now...
It would be good if they could mention in the title if their ROM is AOSP or not.
Maybe I got this all wrong and you're welcome to educate me
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AOSP is from android. its the cleanest possible rom u can ever find. its like a fish u just caught and cooked with just a pinch of salt only. probably u wont experience lag and alot of bloatware taken off. asus apps abd google apps you have to dl urself. i find that troublesome too. HAHA! using a custom rom is different tho. that depends on how the dev develop it. if ur happy with stock then stick with it man.
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I would say stick with custom stock at the moment like revolver or frozn but that's just my preference after trying the aosp roms.
Some like aosp better but for me I will wait awhile until there completely stable before I give them a decent try.
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Mmmm fish
I'm using ARHD at the moment but reading through FROZN posts as I really want to try some other ROM...

Danzano said:
I would say stick with custom stock at the moment like revolver or frozn but that's just my preference after trying the aosp roms.
Some like aosp better but for me I will wait awhile until there completely stable before I give them a decent try.
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I've tried both custom stock and AOSP roms and there's no difference in stability.

horndroid said:
I've tried both custom stock and AOSP roms and there's no difference in stability.
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Ok well not so much stability now I guess but bugs there is still a difference I just feel aosp on the transformer is a bit to young on my gt540 I love aosp its rock solid works and has awesome customization's etc
Like I said maybe after some time but for now I say stock custom is best
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Just wondering what the advantage is of all these AOSP Roms available in the developer section?
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I used Asus' official ICS for about 15 minutes before I decided it was ugly and thrown together quickly.. also comes with a bunch of Asus garbage files in the system partition and a bunch of crappy apps i never use.
I tried EOS and was happy. Now at build #21 its fast, its stable, its got some nice customizations but is otherwise bone stock AOSP ICS, like a Nexus device has.
I also tried AOKP and while I could prefer it in the long run as it is a very slick ROM, but it just doesnt seem as snappy and smooth as EOS at this time.

a.mcdear said:
I used Asus' official ICS for about 15 minutes before I decided it was ugly and thrown together quickly.. also comes with a bunch of Asus garbage files in the system partition and a bunch of crappy apps i never use.
I tried EOS and was happy. Now at build #21 its fast, its stable, its got some nice customizations but is otherwise bone stock AOSP ICS, like a Nexus device has.
I also tried AOKP and while I could prefer it in the long run as it is a very slick ROM, but it just doesnt seem as snappy and smooth as EOS at this time.
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Does EOS still have the minor lag when scrolling home screens? It's barely perceivable but enough to annoy someone like me. The build I tried was 18 or 19.

Hi, what do you say about CyanogenMod9 ROM? Have you tried it?

ezechiele25172012 said:
Hi, what do you say about CyanogenMod9 ROM? Have you tried it?
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I was dissatisfied with CM9. The one that I have been using most has been Android Revolution HD 3.1.0 (GPS locks quick, WiFi stable, dock works). Just recently I have dropped FROZN on my TF101 but have been unable to successfully transfer my APK's to it using APK Batch Installer During the process I receive a segmentation fault. So far it has been only with that ROM that I have had this issue with. Aside from that FROZN ROM is fast!! Can't say much about battery life seeing how I just started using it.

justinramos83 said:
I was dissatisfied with CM9. The one that I have been using most has been Android Revolution HD 3.1.0 (GPS locks quick, WiFi stable, dock works). Just recently I have dropped FROZN on my TF101 but have been unable to successfully transfer my APK's to it using APK Batch Installer During the process I receive a segmentation fault. So far it has been only with that ROM that I have had this issue with. Aside from that FROZN ROM is fast!! Can't say much about battery life seeing how I just started using it.
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Also I'm using last revolution HD with msticninja'kernel and it's very very stable and fast but it's also my first cooked rom (I just bought my TF101 a month ago). Why are you dissatisfied with CM9? Frozn is faster than CM9 and revolution?
thanks

ezechiele25172012 said:
Also I'm using last revolution HD with msticninja'kernel and it's very very stable and fast but it's also my first cooked rom (I just bought my TF101 a month ago). Why are you dissatisfied with CM9? Frozn is faster than CM9 and revolution?
thanks
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These custom ROMS vary in benchmarks but there really is no perceivable difference in speed with normal usage. They are all faster and more optimized than the stock Asus ICS.

Stable ICS rom?

Its there a stable, clean ics rom for the g2x? Nothing themed and all that just stock style?

I've been using AOKP for a while now and have no complaints. It looks stock-ish.

They're all pretty stable and they're all pretty much clean until you start customizing stuff. EB is probably the most "clean," though. I don't remember it offering much, if any, options for customization. I'm currently a big fan of HFS, clean not dirty.
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+1 HellFire Sandwich 1.7 Clean Version.
Stable. Stock.

No there is no such thing as ics according to lg. I mean there's only 699 threads regarding this...
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium

Well...
I've been using the EaglesBlood ICS ROM and I like that one a lot. The creator said it was supposed to be close to stock but has a few extra features for better performance. There's also supposed to be an update to 4.0.4 today, and I've heard people say that the pre-release is very smooth and snappy. I would wait for the full release though, apparently the pre-release doesn't have working wifi... I would say get the 4.0.3 version until he comes out with the next.
But keep in mind that all ICS ROMs are still not completely stable and you will find some problems. I just find EaglesBlood to work well and HellFire is good too.

As I think you could probably find this out for yourself, by flashing them and creating backups like everyone else around here did, my choice is AOKP.
There's really no way to tell on your phone, though, as each phone is different. However, AOKP Milestone 5 is stable and amazing, with the stock kernel.

Eaglesblood 4.0.4 ASOP
Eaglesblood 4.0.4 ASOP is clean and awesome. The only issue I've run into is some WiFi calling glitches.
Minimal customization and code straight from Google.

Another Eaglesblood 4.0.4 ASOP user here and its worked well for me thus far. If you read through the threads for the different ROM's you'll find their users having similar experiences.
There are some known drawbacks to ICS on the G2x and thats more an LG issue that the Dev's here.
Backup your phone, then try them all out and pick your favorite. Worse case, you roll back to what you have now.

im currently running aokp milestone 5 and ive enjoyed it very much. havent tried out any other custom roms, but the control and customizations you get with aokp makes it a nice rom to try out. flashing process is pretty easy too
it's stable with a few known and documented bugs

ics vs gingerbread?

hey, i have been running an ics rom for a while. Its been super laggy and i havnt had time to flash a new one. My reason for making this post is to ask whether or not the ics roms are stable and fast, or should i just use cm7 if im looking for a fast rom with great features. thankyou in advance.

There are different builds of ICS, like nightly and AOKP. You just gotta try and the different ones and see which ones you like best. Changing ROMs is all about preferences and what you feel comfortable with.

gregnetz18 said:
hey, i have been running an ics rom for a while. Its been super laggy and i havnt had time to flash a new one. My reason for making this post is to ask whether or not the ics roms are stable and fast, or should i just use cm7 if im looking for a fast rom with great features. thankyou in advance.
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After using Slim for the past few months, I would not go back to a non-ICS ROM (this ROM will probably influence my choice of the next phone I buy, i.e. I will make sure it's available on that device).

While I agree the SlimICS is very quick and runs fairly smoothly, it does lack in other departments. In order to have a slimmer and smother build they had to cut certain things. The main thing I noticed is not all languages are supported.

SlimICS has been the best experience of the ICS roms, or any rom for me. It's very fast, stable, and feature packed. I've had zero problems through the two different builds I've been using for the last week. I highly recommend it.
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Thanks guys. I'm currently running cm7 again. But it sounds like I should definitely try the slim rom.
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SlimICS is definitely worth the time investment to get it installed and running. I came from Cognition 4.5.x and my phone is running better than it ever has using any previous ROM I've tried (and I tried a lot of them!). Granted, my IMEI paid the ultimate price for using all those different ROMs (EFS folder wiped/corrupted), but I'll have that sorted out soon enough with any luck.
Can't say enough about Slim though, granted I didn't care for the Lightening launcher that's included. I am using the standard ICS launcher, which works fine and is plenty fast for me.

SlimICS or Nostalgia (SlimICS based) - runs faster than S3.
But I'm rooting my S3. So boajuicing comes...

Give AOKP a shot. I'm running it and love it.
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I find that the CM9 ROM I use isn't always the fastest but the features pretty much balance it out when compared with Gingerbread.

ICS is fast and sleek, but I'll choose GB KK4 for the meantime until they fix the unsuccessful encryption bug on ICS. Still waiting though :silly:

I've never liked GB but then again, I didn't give it that much of a chance. I was extremely satisfied with di11igaf's Rom [2.2.1] on my Captivate, flashed to stock GB, then flashed immediately back.
Currently running TiramiSlim RC 2.0 [Based on SlimICS 3.9] after being somewhat of a crazy flash-aholic as far as ICS Roms are concerned. It is super-fast & extremely smooth.
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[Q] Are you satisfied with your Android 4.2 experience?

Hi guys, there's a lot of 4.2 ROMs floating around the forum at the moment and I've tried them all. Unfortunately, I feel like I can never get the same level of buttery smoothness as I have in 4.1.2. Even the AOSP 4.2 ROM in the forum doesn't give me the same level of user experience as in the vanilla 4.1.2 AOSP ROM I'm using now. And I'm not talking about features or bugs, I'm talking about the overall experience of using it, like browsing, scrolling through lists like in Instagram or xda, dropped frames, etc.
Just to be clear, I'm not trolling. I just wanted to know if I'm really the only one who feels that unlike in previous versions, 4.2.1 is truly not made for the Nexus S. Let me know what you think below.
Cheers!
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Somewhat I do agree BUT we can bring all that smoothness back pretty much easily

DJBhardwaj said:
Somewhat I do agree BUT we can bring all that smoothness back pretty much easily
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Can you site an example on how we can do that? I've tried all of the currently available 4.2 ROMs and they just feel clunky compared to 4.1.2. Even the recent apps list appear faster and with less stutter in 4.1.2.
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Once we are done with solving all the bugs, we can work on patches to remove lags.

Probably because 4.2 is just a port.
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apatal said:
Hi guys, there's a lot of 4.2 ROMs floating around the forum at the moment and I've tried them all. Unfortunately, I feel like I can never get the same level of buttery smoothness as I have in 4.1.2. Even the AOSP 4.2 ROM in the forum doesn't give me the same level of user experience as in the vanilla 4.1.2 AOSP ROM I'm using now. And I'm not talking about features or bugs, I'm talking about the overall experience of using it, like browsing, scrolling through lists like in Instagram or xda, dropped frames, etc.
Just to be clear, I'm not trolling. I just wanted to know if I'm really the only one who feels that unlike in previous versions, 4.2.1 is truly not made for the Nexus S. Let me know what you think below.
Cheers!
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4.2 is a port and way more than what Nexus S was designed to handle. Still, I found it really snappy and only sipping battery compared to 4.1 and even CM10. Only multitasking chokes it, but that can't be helped.

sumeshpremraj said:
4.2 is a port and way more than what Nexus S was designed to handle. Still, I found it really snappy and only sipping battery compared to 4.1 and even CM10. Only multitasking chokes it, but that can't be helped.
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You are really unaware of what NS can handle.
My 2 years old LG Optimus One P500; an MDPI ARMv6 arch device which comes with froyo and can only be updated to GB runs on smooth JB.
NS is way far more capable than that and in the coming future we will prove that too. :victory:

apatal said:
Hi guys, there's a lot of 4.2 ROMs floating around the forum at the moment and I've tried them all. Unfortunately, I feel like I can never get the same level of buttery smoothness as I have in 4.1.2. Even the AOSP 4.2 ROM in the forum doesn't give me the same level of user experience as in the vanilla 4.1.2 AOSP ROM I'm using now. And I'm not talking about features or bugs, I'm talking about the overall experience of using it, like browsing, scrolling through lists like in Instagram or xda, dropped frames, etc.
Just to be clear, I'm not trolling. I just wanted to know if I'm really the only one who feels that unlike in previous versions, 4.2.1 is truly not made for the Nexus S. Let me know what you think below.
Cheers!
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I was happy with JellyShot 0.8 for couple days then with Vanilla 4.1.2 which I used since release, used the same kernel. I tried couple 4.2 for the NS, but everyone felt clunky until JellyShot, I also loved the quick toggles and MMS features.
But I feel you, since 4.1.1 Google images behaved very well and smoother then AOSP compiled stuff.

apatal said:
Unfortunately, I feel like I can never get the same level of buttery smoothness as I have in 4.1.2. Even the AOSP 4.2 ROM in the forum doesn't give me the same level of user experience as in the vanilla 4.1.2 AOSP ROM I'm using now.
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Same here. I tried greenblue's AOSP 4.2.1 and like the "new features", but I always return back to the stock 4.1.2 ROM. It feels more robust somehow, even with the same kernel.

I´m running on Rasbeanjelly 4.2.1 since it comes out and i´m very satisified with it. I expected nothing more of the Nexus S but i love to hear that there will possibly be improvements in future.

For the last couple of days I've been flashing my device with various roms. 4.2.1. mostly. Everytime I flashed a new rom which was supposed to be smooth fast and super nice it turned out it was slow, sluggish, choppy and not working as a smartphone should. Crt animation is ****ty among every 4.2. Rom i tried. It's delayed, slow and not in the right pace. Lockscreen does not work properly. Scrolling through the lockscreen is laggy. Quick settings are sometimes laggy. I just hate to say it but I think 4.2.1. is really not meant for the nexus s. I just returned to vanilla rom with minimum modifications (flohimself rom) and I love what I see. Everything is fast, fluent and working properly
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Yeah. Same experience here. I guess you can't just beat the experience in using actual AOSP ROMs with all sources and proprietary binaries available. Still, appreciate the efforts of all the devs who have been trying to keep our humble device in the cutting edge... even if said edge is a bit dull at the moment.
Still I want to remain optimistic that things will only get better in the future in terms of the 4.2 ROMs.
What do you guys think? Could we achieve the same level of user experience of a 100% AOSP ROM even without Google's support?
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apatal said:
Yeah. Same experience here. I guess you can't just beat the experience in using actual AOSP ROMs with all sources and proprietary binaries available. Still, appreciate the efforts of all the devs who have been trying to keep our humble device in the cutting edge... even if said edge is a bit dull at the moment.
Still I want to remain optimistic that things will only get better in the future in terms of the 4.2 ROMs.
What do you guys think? Could we achieve the same level of user experience of a 100% AOSP ROM even without Google's support?
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I think we can :victory:

I thought that everything is possible. But the more i use my phone the more I think that the stock firmware is simply the best for it. The more new features the faster your phone will become sluggish and unbearably slow. I've been on cm10 for a while and I thought it was fast. I was wrong. I'm now typing from a vanilla rom and that's the way it should be. I just wonder how long will my phone be so fast and snappy. Maybe after couple of days it will become as slow as the other roms leaving me with the opininion that android is simply crap? what do you think?

thanks to all dev for 4.2.1 rom !!!

You all should use a HTC Hero for a week and you'd realize that your phone runs great. If your phone runs so poorly on 4.0+ it's probably you because I see enough people say their phone flies. 4.2 is a bit clunky, but it's also a port. A port takes time to get the kinks out. I thought 4.2 actually ran fine. But I also had a click and wait hero and Windows Mobile phones before this. The lock screen is the main fail on it for a variety of reasons. Some apps are definitely not optimized for 4.2 as well. Beyond that it seems fine. It will get better. I've already had to suffer through this on so many phones, just be patient.
~Nexus S 4G~AOKP JB~Matrix Kernel~

apatal said:
Yeah. Same experience here. I guess you can't just beat the experience in using actual AOSP ROMs with all sources and proprietary binaries available. Still, appreciate the efforts of all the devs who have been trying to keep our humble device in the cutting edge... even if said edge is a bit dull at the moment.
Still I want to remain optimistic that things will only get better in the future in terms of the 4.2 ROMs.
What do you guys think? Could we achieve the same level of user experience of a 100% AOSP ROM even without Google's support?
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Unfortunately using actual AOSP ROMs will always be better, so everything based on 4.2 will always be less than 4.1.2. I am using the great 4.2.1 ROMs here and enjoying them but they are less than using actual AOSP ROMs.
A reality we have to accept since our beloved NS has been dropped by Google...

dpeeps74 said:
You all should use a HTC Hero for a week and you'd realize that your phone runs great. If your phone runs so poorly on 4.0+ it's probably you because I see enough people say their phone flies. 4.2 is a bit clunky, but it's also a port. A port takes time to get the kinks out. I thought 4.2 actually ran fine. But I also had a click and wait hero and Windows Mobile phones before this. The lock screen is the main fail on it for a variety of reasons. Some apps are definitely not optimized for 4.2 as well. Beyond that it seems fine. It will get better. I've already had to suffer through this on so many phones, just be patient.
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Oh don't get me wrong, I think my phone runs great, especially with the vanilla 4.1.2 AOSP ROM I'm running right now. This is also the reason why I believe my complaints with 4.2 ROMs are not because of "me", as you say. Because if I do cause the poor performance on my phone, I would experience the same issues regardless of what ROM I am using, which, as I mentioned before, is not the case. < via xda app>

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I thought that everything is possible. But the more i use my phone the more I think that the stock firmware is simply the best for it. The more new features the faster your phone will become sluggish and unbearably slow. I've been on cm10 for a while and I thought it was fast. I was wrong. I'm now typing from a vanilla rom and that's the way it should be. I just wonder how long will my phone be so fast and snappy. Maybe after couple of days it will become as slow as the other roms leaving me with the opininion that android is simply crap? what do you think?
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I think that's why we're on a nexus device, to get the pure Google experience. The only thing the nexus s needs that's not stock it's backlight notifications, and the gnex solved it with the notification led. Let's just admit that this is an old phone, and the nexus 4 is probably where we should head towards. Probably won't find anything for such a great deal for a while. It'll last us as few years for sure.
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apatal said:
Oh don't get me wrong, I think my phone runs great, especially with the vanilla 4.1.2 AOSP ROM I'm running right now. This is also the reason why I believe my complaints with 4.2 ROMs are not because of "me", as you say. Because if I do cause the poor performance on my phone, I would experience the same issues regardless of what ROM I am using, which, as I mentioned before, is not the case. < via xda app>
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It wasn't intended as a dig. There are several people though that report 4.2 running fine. This would tend to indicate that there would be something specific to what a user does that would cause the phone to run in a way that made it unbearable. Typically that will be related to some specific application(s) causing an issue due to not being updated. Most problems I saw with 4.2 were very similar to what I saw when we got ics before many apps ever updated and some never did and I'd imagine there are still people using apps that haven't been updated since gb. Definitely 4.2 is nowhere near perfect on our phones though and is running very much like a port and they clearly lagged some stuff up.
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