I installed the JB update without factory resetting my infinity. Im running everything stock but I noticed my ram is using a little over 700mbs and leaving me around 150mbs free. Just wanted to see if this is the norm. Can you guys post ram usage and can you state if you did a factory reset or not. Really trying not to factory reset but if doing so will lower my ram usage then I will. My tab is running smoother but still kinda jerky once in a while so maybe this is the culprit.
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565MB in use, 405BMb free.
Running: Settings, PlayerPro, Transformer Services, NvCPL Service, com.asus.keyboard, Clock, Hacker's Keyboard, Fresh Leaves LWP.
No factory reset, no root, not unlocked. Turned off all bloatware, though. that's probably what's eating your RAM.
Android & Windows utilize RAM differently. While you want to keep more free in Windows, free RAM matters much less in Android. The OS intentionally loads up apps & consumes occupies RAM. I can dig up some technical articles explaining this id you don't want to believe me.
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Android & Windows utilize RAM differently. While you want to keep more free in Windows, free RAM matters much less in Android. The OS intentionally loads up apps & consumes occupies RAM. I can dig up some technical articles explaining this id you don't want to believe me.
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The transformer series (or atleast the tf700) seems to handle it differently, plenty of games will crash unless you free up RAM.
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that was in ics wasnt it? due to a nvidia driver bug or something. I use to crash in plants vs zombies after a few minutes in ics, but now it works fine in jb
Just did a hard reset to have a clean boot and my Infinity is using 640mb.
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565MB in use, 405BMb free.
Running: Settings, PlayerPro, Transformer Services, NvCPL Service, com.asus.keyboard, Clock, Hacker's Keyboard, Fresh Leaves LWP.
No factory reset, no root, not unlocked. Turned off all bloatware, though. that's probably what's eating your RAM.
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Is there a option to turn off bloatware or I just go to apps and turn off each stick app I think I don't use?
I know everyone is diffrent but which apps did you stop?
Thanks
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Eroc162 said:
Is there a option to turn off bloatware or I just go to apps and turn off each stick app I think I don't use?
I know everyone is diffrent but which apps did you stop?
Thanks
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You have to go into Apps and disable each one you won't use, independently...
Some apps won't disable until you go back to factory. So uninstall any updates, to that particular app.
Thanks xRev gonna try that when I get home.
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I noticed with ICS that if my RAM got below 200MB, things would get wonky. I would consistently see hangs in the browser and severe lag on most apps below this threshold. I was using Startup Cleaner on boot and activated the setting to limit to 2 background process at most. This kept my ICS RAM around 300MB and above and things were relatively smooth.
Now with JB, it gets down to around 200MB on a fresh boot. Even with limit background processes to 2 it struggles to get above 300MB. I can see when I launch a Flash and java script heavy web page the whole thing just stalls for several seconds. On some pages I can see the RAM going down below 100MB and this is when the browser will just crash. I am using the Cool Tool RAM monitor to see usage real time.
I have not disabled any apps yet, and that may be the difference. Doing a TB backup now to factory reset and see if I can clean this up. However, ICS or JB, things run smoother when the RAM is at 300MB or above! It does seem like JB is more RAM hungry and this could be an issue.
Just did factory reset and its much smoother and ram is using 580ish and 380ish free.
Factory Rest is a must.
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I was just wondering about the RAM usage, as I have noticed that with the same applications installed, I had about 400-500MB free on average on ICS, and now I'm at 200-300 on Jellybean.
Also, seems to eat up more and more RAM as time goes on, only fixed by restarting the tablet.
I use SystemPanel Lite as a task manager and even that couldn't free up much RAM.
I notice 150 - 200MB increase of RAM consumption after the JB update (last value 680). And I use Android Assistant to kill the unwanted apps..
Guys just factory reset. I know it sucks having to install everything again but it levels out. Runs smoother and more ram free. I know have like 400mbs free and Im running alot more widgets. Its good
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Eroc162 said:
Guys just factory reset. I know it sucks having to install everything again but it levels out. Runs smoother and more ram free. I know have like 400mbs free and Im running alot more widgets. Its good
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I did do a factory reset. Right after I updated to Jelly Bean.
I rebuilt my homescreen to how it was back in ICS, and configured my widgets. From a fresh boot I have around 450MB free memory, over the course of half an hour it drops to around 250MB (and this is with constantly killing all applications too). Seems to stabilize at around 250MB.
In general, it just seems that JB uses more memory than ICS. Hope they address this in a follow-up OTA update or something.
Don't worry about the RAM usage - Android handles it for you - especially with Jelly Bean. Really, there is no need to even worry about it. There was a *bad* bug in ICS with OpenGL "out of memory" issues, but that bug has been resolved in JB and everything runs smoothly now.
It may even be all of the monitoring software you are using to check for "low RAM" that is causing your performance issues!
You actually *want* Jelly Bean to use all of the RAM - that's why it's there! It will cache all sorts of things and then free up some of the cache memory as it needs it for other things.
Just like the old saying goes - if it aint broke, don't fix it!
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579mb used 390mb free after JB and and a factory reset.
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For those who factory reset, did you use asus app backup? Will factory reset wipe all internal storage data, thus deleting all your backups?
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For those who factory reset, did you use asus app backup? Will factory reset wipe all internal storage data, thus deleting all your backups?
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Using Asus app backup I just backed up to the external card prior to the JB update.
All my apps and data showed up.
I have always regularly moved my pics, vids and stuff we don't want to lose onto a PC too for safe keeping.
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Don't worry about the RAM usage - Android handles it for you - especially with Jelly Bean. Really, there is no need to even worry about it. There was a *bad* bug in ICS with OpenGL "out of memory" issues, but that bug has been resolved in JB and everything runs smoothly now.
It may even be all of the monitoring software you are using to check for "low RAM" that is causing your performance issues!
You actually *want* Jelly Bean to use all of the RAM - that's why it's there! It will cache all sorts of things and then free up some of the cache memory as it needs it for other things.
Just like the old saying goes - if it aint broke, don't fix it!
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but it is broke, apps still crash if you have less than 300mb free...
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What games did you have problems with?
I had weird flickering in Six-Guns which I was not able to play at all and now in Siegecraft THD Lite (= demo) which just crashes after hitting play (or play / next)
Some others crashed randomly, but not so much that it would be worth mentioning with all the problems with T3 / TF700...
Update: I've found out that a reboot actually might help when experiencing problems with games (not sure why yet).
Update: After excluding some lines from build.prop and rebooting the device Siegecraft works. Will have to find out what influences the games in general.
It seems that switching off these two in my build.prop file helped with Six-Guns too!
# debug.sf.hw=1
# persist.sys.ui.hw=1
Montezuma 3 starts flickering now and then for no reason, only way to stop it is to kill the game with a task manager and restart it. No other issues found so far with games or apps. Don't have Siegecraft though.
I have issues with Grabatron on my Bionic, a game that I really enjoy. Anyone want to test that one for me? I'd love to play it on the Infinity when I pick it up.
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I have issues with Grabatron on my Bionic, a game that I really enjoy. Anyone want to test that one for me? I'd love to play it on the Infinity when I pick it up.
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Works fine on the Infinity, KilerG. It's pretty cool btw
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It crashed after 15 minutes of play now. But generally it's working
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I've had problem with most THD and 3D-games, heavy flickering and constant crashes. Its better after the latest update though, games still crash but not as often.
Seemed to be memory related as my log showed this error with every crash:
D/NvOsDebugPrintf( 5793): NvRmChannelSubmit failed (err = 196623, SyncPointValue = 1319148)
Wrote a post about it earlier: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766647
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I've had problem with most THD and 3D-games, heavy flickering and constant crashes. Its better after the latest update though, games still crash but not as often.
Seemed to be memory related as my log showed this error with every crash:
D/NvOsDebugPrintf( 5793): NvRmChannelSubmit failed (err = 196623, SyncPointValue = 1319148)
Wrote a post about it earlier: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766647
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I had flickering effect in a few games, but after build.prop changes, two of which I've excluded lately. Apart from that, I think that data wipe + flashing TW firmware helped me with a lot of these issues, might be worth a try (you could use MyBackup and store it on external storage manually)
After a bit more testing the crashes are as bad as before and heavier games are as good as unplayable because of this. Anyone else having the same log error as I described above? This is really starting to piss me off...
@d14b0ll0s Might try the build.prop changes you suggested but a data wipe only seems to temporary delay the problem. Might be a memory leak somewhere or in the worst case scenario its defective RAM.
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After a bit more testing the crashes are as bad as before and heavier games are as good as unplayable because of this. Anyone else having the same log error as I described above? This is really starting to piss me off...
@d14b0ll0s Might try the build.prop changes you suggested but a data wipe only seems to temporary delay the problem. Might be a memory leak somewhere or in the worst case scenario its defective RAM.
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If you hadn't done any build.prop tweaks before, you don't need to exclude these lines, as they are not there.
It may be just system memory settings. Are you rooted?
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If you hadn't done any build.prop tweaks before, you don't need to exclude these lines, as they are not there.
It may be just system memory settings. Are you rooted?
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Nope, im not rooted yet. I've rooted every android device I have ever owned but wanted to wait 'til we got an unlocked bootloader before I started to mess around too much.
Noone else having the same issue?
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d14b0ll0s said:
Works fine on the Infinity, KilerG. It's pretty cool btw
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It crashed after 15 minutes of play now. But generally it's working
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Thanks for the info...my phone won't load it whatsoever. I'm wondering the issue is...it loads the first time, but if I try it again, it will turn the screen landscape and then go back to portrait. Glad to know I can try it out on the Infinity when I get it.
Can it be the openGL driver? Sounds like the problem i have with Sygic navigation. Screen goes black on heavy 3d zooming.
I've found out that a reboot actually might help when experiencing problems with games (not sure why yet).
I'm having trouble with the simple games, too : Words with friends & draw something. They crash instantly every time.
Are game issues another victim of the terrible i/o problem or is this something else?
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I'm having trouble with the simple games, too : Words with friends & draw something. They crash instantly every time.
Are game issues another victim of the terrible i/o problem or is this something else?
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I have the same problem with Words w/ Friends, even after un-installing and re-installing a couple of times. Before I can even start the game I get a 'sorry need to close' message or something like that.
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I'm having trouble with the simple games, too : Words with friends & draw something. They crash instantly every time.
Are game issues another victim of the terrible i/o problem or is this something else?
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I've heard similar problems from people over in the Android Central forums. Words with Friends and Draw Something don't work for some reason...
After rooting and changing scheduler to sio I no longer seem to have problem with games crashing all the time. The difference in all around performance is huge, the tablet is finally really responsive.
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I've heard similar problems from people over in the Android Central forums. Words with Friends and Draw Something don't work for some reason...
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It seems it's just the tablet version of Words. I sideloaded my TiBu backup from my phone and it works fine (portrait mode only of course).
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Yep. Words with Friends keeps crashing
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So i just got my new pad and have been playing with it, closing,opening apps, and web browsing. I have found the tablet to be sluggish opening apps or responding to keyboard input in chrome. I didnt recieve any update when i first turned it on. Is there anything i can do?
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What software version are you running? Did you click on check for update in the about section?
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You are not on Power Saving mode, are you?
Power Saving mode saves battery but makes whole process stutter especially opening application you can see frames stutter and wish you had Buttery smooth Jelly bean there. But on balanced mode, I don't notice any and not sure if Jelly bean would do anything there... as it is already so smooth.
But as far as browser, if you have many applications running behind that may cause keyboard input delay. If not, recommend Cold reboot.
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You are not on Power Saving mode, are you?
Power Saving mode saves battery but makes whole process stutter especially opening application you can see frames stutter and wish you had Buttery smooth Jelly bean there. But on balanced mode, I don't notice any and not sure if Jelly bean would do anything there... as it is already so smooth.
But as far as browser, if you have many applications running behind that may cause keyboard input delay. If not, recommend Cold reboot.
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No matter what might go wrong in life the absolute very first thing I wish for is buttery smooth jelly bean. Just last week I was complaining about the price of gas and it made me wish for buttery smooth jelly bean.
I made sure im in high performance mode and checked the updates. Im running build # 9.4.5.22 with android version 4.0.3.its just discouraging since my galaxy nexus is so smooth. Im hoping a good rom comes out soon
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I have also been experiencing some force closes for no reason. So far unimpressed...
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So i just got my new pad and have been playing with it, closing,opening apps, and web browsing. I have found the tablet to be sluggish opening apps or responding to keyboard input in chrome. I didnt recieve any update when i first turned it on. Is there anything i can do?
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I have the same problem as you as well as others. I'm on the updated firmware and am incredibly disappointed. I've been supporting Android since it was first released and absolutely love my Nexus phone. I've had a few Android tabs and they have all been lacking. I finally did something I swore that I would never do and used an iPad. I really didn't like it except that it operated so smooth and didn't crash. I ran out and bought this tab as I hoped it would work better so I could ditch the iPad. Unfortunately, my infinity lags when loading pages and Gmail, crashes when watching movies and Gmail, and refuses to open desktop version of websites. I am going to wipe and reload one more time and if it doesn't work, I will have to send it back. I really really want this tab to work.
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I made sure im in high performance mode and checked the updates. Im running build # 9.4.5.22 with android version 4.0.3.its just discouraging since my galaxy nexus is so smooth. Im hoping a good rom comes out soon
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You want to update to .26, tablet is so much better after update
Huh, after updating I thought this was the only non_lag android tablet I've used besides the Nexus 7 which is even faster. I've also not had force closes and the Primes browsing was ruined by that. Of course it has other issues because that's how Asus rolls.
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Will i need to root to update if im not getting it just by checking in the settings
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Will i need to root to update if im not getting it just by checking in the settings
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no. mine came with .21 and i wasn't getting .26 OTA. you download it from the ASUS site, unzip it and put the resultant zip on the root of an sdcard. slot the sdcard in and you'll get an item in notification that there's an update available. bam.
search the forum for detailed instructions.
THAT SAID - although .26 is MUCH better than .21 IME, i still have performance issues with the 700. not so much that it's sluggish - but that the digitizer just stops accepting input periodically. it's definitely a software problem and it's definitely frustrating. haven't sussed out any culprits yet.
doody.
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So i just got my new pad and have been playing with it, closing,opening apps, and web browsing. I have found the tablet to be sluggish opening apps or responding to keyboard input in chrome. I didnt recieve any update when i first turned it on. Is there anything i can do?
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Chrome on this tablet sucks indeed. Use dolphin, 324% faster, trust me I tested it And like the post above says just download the firmware from the Asus website!
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Chrome on this tablet sucks indeed. Use dolphin, 324% faster, trust me I tested it And like the post above says just download the firmware from the Asus website!
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Apparently, dolphin is a bigger botnet than chrome. And that's saying something.
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By botnet do you mean the tracking? I mean, we are on Android, it exists for Google to increase their ad information capabilities. It is what it is.
I don't use their sync service, and I don't like their regular browser at all but the new Dolphin beta is pretty amazing. It might be the fastest mobile browser I've ever tried.
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Hey guys,
I guess my infinity has a serious problem. Today I was playing TW Battles suddenly screen started to flicker.I was able to touch the screen and give commands but screen didnt change. Then i tried Dead Trigger,it happened again. I shut it down and opened then played for a while (like one hour) it started to flicker again. After that I cleared all tasks from Asus Task Manager except the game, I was able to play then.Anyone has the same issue? Can it be repaired by firmware update or is it a hardware issue? Any advice to solve?
By the way my infinity is unrooted and C70 serie.
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Mines been doing the same thing. Every few days I clear the cache and it temporarily fixes it.
Thanks for the reply but how can i clear the cache and by clearing it would i lose any data from apps or games?
Any other solutions? Is it a common issue?
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Hey guys,
I guess my infinity has a serious problem. Today I was playing TW Battles suddenly screen started to flicker
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This is a known issue. It originates from the NVIDIA driver. It is rumoured to be fixed in the upcoming JellyBean update.
For now have a look at this workaround: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31177808&postcount=8
So, the only solution is clearing the ram before starting a game?
Is there a app that keeps the free ram at the same level?
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So, the only solution is clearing the ram before starting a game?
Is there a app that keeps the free ram at the same level?
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That is a really good question. If an app could just clear out all apps, like advanced task manager, and then free up all the ram, that could be used before running a game in the meantime. Does something like that exist?
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That is a really good question. If an app could just clear out all apps, like advanced task manager, and then free up all the ram, that could be used before running a game in the meantime. Does something like that exist?
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There are many memory cleaners, I use this workaround: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...08&postcount=8.
Cleaners cannot "reconstruct" fragmented memory, only a reboot will do that. The real solution would be for ASUS to update the (already fixed) nvidia driver(s) to fix the NvRmChannelSubmit failed errors.
Ever since the last update, my TF300 is slow, especially browsing. I've cleared caches and even did a factory reset. Not much better. Any ideas?
I would suggest a custom rom and kernel if things are to slow for you. Not sure what else to say since you don't say which version of android your on etc. A lot more info will help someone help you. Also read around the TF300 forums plenty of guides and answers to most questions and there are tons of people working on making our tablets faster.
I use CROM-X 4.4.1 upgrading to 4.5 and Hundsbuah's Kernel which make the tablet 50-60% faster then stock IMO.
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I would like to do it... But I have many doubts and have afraid to brick it.
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I would like to do it... But I have many doubts and have afraid to brick it.
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Use Boat Browser. Use Boat Browser Setting: Cache to SD Card. Disable any pre-installed app you do not use. Also, disable the AccuWeather Weather Widget.
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I would liksloe to do it... But I have many doubts and have afraid to brick it.
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ever sisnce the latest update to 4.2 my tab is sloooow I am getting really mad at it I took 1 hr just to get to this forum cause the browser wasnt responding and I kept waiting so I could post on here about how bad it is should I Rma or return this tab for another I already did a factory reset and it didnt help
+1 for Boat browser.
I'm wondering if rebooting the phone once in a while is good because it clears some memory etc.?
Though I must say I don't do much on my phone besides calling, texting and listening to music...
I have Froyo on my phone.
There's no point rebooting once a while!!..If you're worried about memory just clear the RAM once a while if u get slow!!.
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I'm wondering if rebooting the phone once in a while is good because it clears some memory etc.?
Though I must say I don't do much on my phone besides calling, texting and listening to music...
I have Froyo on my phone.
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It really doesn't make a difference unless there is something wrong on your phones apps normally a reboot should fix that.
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rebooting
funny this is asked because certain devices behave differently when rebooting. with idevices I found that rebooting does fix glitches more than say an android device, because mainly there arent many free mem apps for a jailbroken iDevice, whereas android natively lets you free mem within it's OS. Ive always felt its like flushing a toilet and cant hurt! lol!
You don't have to unless there's a Problem.
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