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i know the usb ports on the dock supprt ntfs read/write but has anyone tried ntfs formatted microsd? i wont be able to check mine til i get home. but i would't see why it can't. it would be nice to store an 8 GB video file on the sdcard. even if the tf wouldn't be able to play it
i'm pretty sue clockwork won't get along with ntfs though.
where did you hear the dock supported NTFS? to my understanding linux can't read that so nothing on the device should be able to support NTFS.
neok44 said:
where did you hear the dock supported NTFS? to my understanding linux can't read that so nothing on the device should be able to support NTFS.
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Actually linux reads (and write) NTFS quite fine.
For NTFS support linux uses NTFS-3g (free) or Tuxera (commercial). The questions is - did Asus add NTFS drivers? Some users of Transformer say it did and that it works.
Magnesus said:
Actually linux reads (and write) NTFS quite fine.
For NTFS support linux uses NTFS-3g (free) or Tuxera (commercial). The questions is - did Asus add NTFS drivers? Some users of Transformer say it did and that it works.
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interesting. I just figured that since all the android devices have never supported NTFS, at least the ones i've owned.
if i had a blank SD card i'd try it for you, but all mine have way to much data on it to try.
If at least the USB ports work thats nice cause i can then move my HD movies onto a 32GB flash drive. instead of trying to somehow get them under 4GB.
Honeycomb does not have native NTFS support built into the kernel but there is a custom ROM available that has this feature quoted "The Transformer's first custom kernel with CIFS/TUN/NTFS compiled in"
See: "[ROM] PRIME! v1.2 | Fast | Rooted | Deodexed" in the dev section of this forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1052380
I have no idea if this would help with the NTFS microSD access you asked about.
I just formatted to NTFS on a class 10 wintec 16gb microsd. Doesn't work. I'm on stock honeycomb.
Back to fat32 i go!
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Honeycomb does not have native NTFS support built into the kernel but there is a custom ROM available that has this feature quoted "The Transformer's first custom kernel with CIFS/TUN/NTFS compiled in"
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Maybe the people that reported NTFS working used this kernel. I didn't pay attention to what they were writing much because am not using NTFS. But I was almost sure they were talking about a Transformer with stock firmware. Well aparently I was wrong, sorry for spreading misinformation.
ntfs formatted western digital passport does work very well on the usb port though....strange that microsd doesn't
At the time of my initial test i was using paul's rom from modaco. There wasn't any mention of ntfs support in the notes. Eifher i missed the note or he corgot to include the change.
Fyi archos tabets support ntfs read.
From what I read the NTFS support was add in the v1.2 release of that PRIME custom ROM. Maybe you were using an earlier version. The last edit of that forum post was "6th May 2011 at 12:55 AM" which I assume was when the new PRIME ROM v1.2 version was released.
i didn't try th prime rom til yesterday.i was on modaco while doingthe exthd test.
did a noob thing hereand posted efore searching .someon else asked the question and said the stock tf bas ntfs support otb according to the manual. i havent pulled mine out yet to verify.
Bump, trying to figure out if prime 1.3 will support NTFS SDCARD.
I am running Stock TF101 with 3.1 Android and the dock supports NTFS USB Media and Sd-Card NTFS Media very well.
So NTFS with any media that connects to the dock works, at least all i could get hold of these included some USB-Sticks from 512 MB to 8 GB and USB 3.0 2.5" 1TB HDD. Also SD-Cards and my microSD in an SD Adapter works.
But here comes the strange part if i remove the microSD out of the Adapter and put it into the tablet it won't work. Yes the same card that worked 10 seconds before in the dock.
For anyone that finds this thread in the future: The MicroSD card is expected to be FAT formatted and therefore, will not automatically mount if it is NTFS. But, since NTFS is supported on the tablet, you can manually mount the MicroSD and it will work fine when formatted as NTFS. You'll need root and someway to run the below commands.
Mount:
Code:
mkdir /data/Removable/MicroSD
mount /dev/block/vold/179\:9 /data/Removable/MicroSD
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For anyone that finds this thread in the future: The MicroSD card is expected to be FAT formatted and therefore, will not automatically mount if it is NTFS. But, since NTFS is supported on the tablet, you can manually mount the MicroSD and it will work fine when formatted as NTFS. You'll need root and someway to run the below commands.
Mount:
Code:
mkdir /data/Removable/MicroSD
mount /dev/block/vold/179\:9 /data/Removable/MicroSD
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I've tried entering the script in Terminal Emulator, but get
"Usage: mount [-r] [-w].... etc.."
This means there's something wrong with the code?
Found this thread through google search. I have a 32gb patriot class 10 micro sd card - just formatted to ntfs and android 3.2 reads it natively. Not yet rooted either.
I too, am on a stock Android 3.2 with a NTFS formated 32 GB class 10 microSDHC. My Asus Transformer tablet works fine, and can read files off of the memory card. I haven't tried the dock's memory card reading slot, but I presume it'll just work the same.
hyperxi said:
I've tried entering the script in Terminal Emulator, but get
"Usage: mount [-r] [-w].... etc.."
This means there's something wrong with the code?
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You should be able to navigate into the actual directory:
/dev/block/vold/179 ...
If not, it might be elsewhere, slightly different location, like
/dev/block/vold/<another number?>
or
/dev/block/<another directory>/179
etc.
Once you find the actual flash directory it should be easy to mount to a known location. I am not rooted so I can not look on mine for differences.
What this implies... it might require a script or configuration to auto mount in any configuration. On LINUX this is handled a bunch of different ways depending on the kernel version, and likely similar on Android OS.
Good luck.
hoang51 said:
I too, am on a stock Android 3.2 with a NTFS formated 32 GB class 10 microSDHC. My Asus Transformer tablet works fine, and can read files off of the memory card. I haven't tried the dock's memory card reading slot, but I presume it'll just work the same.
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Confirmed! Same here I have 16GB ADATA class 10 microSDHC, NTFS formated. Works on my tablet not root just stock 3.2.
What microSD-cards are you using, that are fully compatible with the TF300T?
I bought 2 cards recently, having issues with both of them. I just ordered a new card reader for my PC, hope that fixes the issues.
Card 1: Transcend 32GB Class 10 - Formatted to NTFS.
Issue: Fully working on PC. On the TF300T it is read only.
Card 2: Sandisk 64GB ultra class 10 (SDXC), formatted to NTFS
Issue: On PC, only visible when in SD-card adapter, write lock ON (switch option). When write lock is set to OFF, no card found. On the TF300T, I get read-only.
Will try to reformat the cards tomorrow when I get the card reader, hopefully that will solve the issues..
efex said:
What microSD-cards are you using, that are fully compatible with the TF300T?
I bought 2 cards recently, having issues with both of them. I just ordered a new card reader for my PC, hope that fixes the issues.
Card 1: Transcend 32GB Class 10 - Formatted to NTFS.
Issue: Fully working on PC. On the TF300T it is read only.
Card 2: Sandisk 64GB ultra class 10 (SDXC), formatted to NTFS
Issue: On PC, only visible when in SD-card adapter, write lock ON (switch option). When write lock is set to OFF, no card found. On the TF300T, I get read-only.
Will try to reformat the cards tomorrow when I get the card reader, hopefully that will solve the issues..
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Your issue is the file system you have used for the cards, not the cards themselves. Android can't write to NTFS, only read it.
Turbojugend said:
Your issue is the file system you have used for the cards, not the cards themselves. Android can't write to NTFS, only read it.
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not quiet correct - there are kernel ntfs addons that work (a700 stock rom eg. r/w ntfs 32gb)
do you have a terminal installed? whats fdisk telling you about your card?
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Buster99 said:
not quiet correct - there are kernel ntfs addons that work (a700 stock rom eg. r/w ntfs 32gb)
do you have a terminal installed? whats fdisk telling you about your card?
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They should cook that into every ROM, if it is available. It isn't a huge pain in the ass to use a card reader, but I have to anyway since Google Android transfer for Mac is the worst piece of **** software ever made, limiting 4 gig file size.
Formatted my 32GB card to FAT32, but I really prefer NTFS because of the file size limitations (whats the point of a 64GB card when you cant have 4+GB files on it?!)
Anyway, as FAT32 the 32GB card works as it should. Just hope the CM team will fix support for write on NTFS soon...
there was a ntfs mount app in play store - had soso success with it - sometimes it worked sometimes it fc'd on me...
mb try that - since you have two cards you can use one as a guineapig with the app.
gl
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Buster99 said:
there was a ntfs mount app in play store - had soso success with it - sometimes it worked sometimes it fc'd on me...
mb try that - since you have two cards you can use one as a guineapig with the app.
gl
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It allowed you to delete files from the ntfs card as well?
Buster99 said:
there was a ntfs mount app in play store - had soso success with it - sometimes it worked sometimes it fc'd on me...
mb try that - since you have two cards you can use one as a guineapig with the app.
gl
cheers
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Thanks for the tip, I`ll try it
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I wanted to convert my external sdcard to ext4 so I can create a symbolic link. Mainly because one of the apps I use won't see the sdcard (devs tell me it's because the tf700 isn't using mass storage drives apparently) and I thought this might solve the problem if I could put a link on the internal card that pointed to the external. I'm aware that symbolic links cannot work with FAT32 partitions but will between ext4/3/2 partitions.
I formatted the card with minitool partition and the TF700 wouldn't mount it. It shows up in settings > storage as a MicroSD with a Mount option but this simply does nothing. Having trawled through some thread someone provided this script to mount an ext4 card.
Code:
mkdir /Removable/MicroSD
mount -o noatime,nodiratime -t ext4 /dev/block/mmcblk1p1 /Removable/MicroSD
chmod -R 777 /Removable/MicroSD
Which should be done at each boot. This seemed to work as I got to the card and was able to manually copy something to it but it seems to be flakey and unreliable. eg. a picture copied to it would fail to load. I managed to get it to after a while (not sure what I did). Then I tried an .apk file and it wouldn't install, giving an error. I also used Rom toolbox to specify Apps2SD destination to the external but trying to install anything will give "not enough space" error.
So I am stumped.
As I am rooted but NOT unlocked I can't install a rom which might be the solution but I'd like to know if what I'm trying to do is possible without that.
I find it odd that the TF700 can't deal with an ext4 partition since it can happily deal with them on the internal. I'm confused so any clear explanation of the situation would be welcome.
louiscar said:
and I thought this might solve the problem if I could put a link on the internal card that pointed to the external. I'm aware that symbolic links cannot work with FAT32 partitions but will between ext4/3/2 partitions.
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The internal "sdcard" is not an ext4 partition, it's a FUSE filesystem that emulates some properties of FAT (no case sensitivity, no permissions) on top of ext4. It also does not support symlinks.
louiscar said:
I formatted the card with minitool partition and the TF700 wouldn't mount it.
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Many users of the Data2SD mod had problems with Minitool - use gparted to create ext4 partitions.
louiscar said:
This seemed to work as I got to the card and was able to manually copy something to it but it seems to be flakey and unreliable. eg. a picture copied to it would fail to load. I managed to get it to after a while (not sure what I did).
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Are you on the latest 10.4.4.25 firmware? Because that fixed something with microSD cards, and it's the only kernel so far that reliably works with my Sandisk "Mobile Ultra" microSD card, even with ext4.
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The internal "sdcard" is not an ext4 partition, it's a FUSE filesystem that emulates some properties of FAT (no case sensitivity, no permissions) on top of ext4. It also does not support symlinks.
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Ok although I don't understand the Fuse fs (still trying to get to grips with basic unix stuff), I did think that symlinks were used internally.
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Many users of the Data2SD mod had problems with Minitool - use gparted to create ext4 partitions.
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Ok I'll give that a go.
_that said:
Are you on the latest 10.4.4.25 firmware? Because that fixed something with microSD cards, and it's the only kernel so far that reliably works with my Sandisk "Mobile Ultra" microSD card, even with ext4.
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Yes, I've just done the OTA to .25 a few days ago.
So basically what you are saying is that there's no reason why an external MicroSD formatted as Ext4 shouldn't work with the TF700?
Many thanks for the quick reply. I'm going to get gparted and give this a go.
Hi my wonder is "can i use ext4 format for my SanDisk 64GB sdxc class 10 ?"to make it as a storage memory for miusc , images and videos. Or should i use the ntfs or exfat or fat32.
With thanks
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deutsh said:
Hi my wonder is "can i use ext4 format for my SanDisk 64GB sdxc class 10 ?"to make it as a storage memory for miusc , images and videos. Or should i use the ntfs or exfat or fat32.
With thanks
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Hi,
Fat32 is universal partition for your music, ,video etc....
ext3 ext4 are used for android/unix/linux application storage...
be careful while partitioning you SD card...
read it before executing partiotion....
""forums.androidcentral.com/general-help-how/85809-tutorial-everything-you-wanted-know-about-app2sd-ext3-ext4-partitions.html[/url]"
-rkk
rkk253755 said:
Hi,
Fat32 is universal partition for your music, ,video etc....
ext3 ext4 are used for android/unix/linux application storage...
be careful while partitioning you SD card...
read it before executing partiotion....
""forums.androidcentral.com/general-help-how/85809-tutorial-everything-you-wanted-know-about-app2sd-ext3-ext4-partitions.html[/url]"
-rkk
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Thanks for replying.
I don't want to partition the memory card i just want to format it as the best storage file system .
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deutsh said:
Thanks for replying.
I don't want to partition the memory card i just want to format it as the best storage file system .
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hi,
ok then use FAT32 is good enough for you...
-rkk
But think about the max. filesize with FAT32 (4 Gigabyte). If you don't want to use so large files, I would prefer FAT32 in all cases.
Good... But the question is : the ext4 working as fat32 as storage for files
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I think the best way is to try it, but I have read somewhere that ext should go, depending upon the android-version.
Accesing files via USB (in the phone) shouldn't be the Problem, but accesing via cardreader directly on windows did not (or rather not without special ext-drivers for windows).
Well, I think ext3 is the best option if you are going to have media files which are bigger that 4GBytes...
well... The other question is :what is the best for non-damage of microsd ?
I mean the card will minimize the ability to get a damage. What the file system type is best.?
Whith thanks
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hmmm, file system organization cannot damage your card, it is only a logic 1 or 0 on the electronics cells.
Maybe there is a difference between frequency of read/write operation. The more the bigger chance to damage a card... of course after a long, looooong time. I would recommend using ext3 as it's more scalable and stable than FAT32.
FAT32: File Allocation Table, 32-bit
Introduced: August 1996 (Windows 95 OSR2)
Directory contents: Table
File allocation: Linked list
Bad blocks: Cluster tagging
Maximum number of files: 268,435,437
Maximum file size: 4GB
Filenames: 8.3 or 255 characters, ASCII except for "'*/:<>?\|
Attributes: Read-only, hidden, system. volume label, subdir, archive
Ext3: Third extended file system
Introduced: November 2001 (Linux 2.4.15)
Directory contents: Table, tree
File allocation: Bitmap, table
Bad blocks: Table
Maximum number of files: number of bytes in volume/2^13.
Maximum file size: 16GB (1KB block) to 2TB (4KB block)
Filenames: 255 bytes long, all bytes except \0 and /.
Attributes: no access time logging, append-only, synchronous write, no-dump, h-tree, immutable, journal, secure-delete, top, allow-undelete.
Journal: metadata and file contents
There is no "best" filesystem, they are all optimized, to some extent, for different things.
Without lots more info, fat32 is relatively efficient and has far and away the best compatibility. For most users the compatibility makes it the winner.
Hi... I try the ntfs but.... But its incompatible with android.... So sad
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NTFS is an windows-filesystem, and is only write- and readable on windows. Yes. linux can read it, but needs secial drivers for that and isn't realy fast. It is the worst filesystem for android or linux.
Use fat32 and ready!
Its fast, its compatible, and can be used in/ with most devices. The only disadvantage for you will be the filesize-maximum (4 GB).
SaschaBr said:
NTFS is an windows-filesystem, and is only write- and readable on windows. Yes. linux can read it, but needs secial drivers for that and isn't realy fast. It is the worst filesystem for android or linux.
Use fat32 and ready!
Its fast, its compatible, and can be used in/ with most devices. The only disadvantage for you will be the filesize-maximum (4 GB).
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O.K. I'll take your advice but I have a little question "how could I protect the micro sdcard from damage ? I suffered from a damge of micro sdcard several times.
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Until now I never had an damaged sd-card. And if it will happen, I have an backup of my important data. So I simply will buy a new one and play back this backup. Nothing is forever.
EDIT:
Ok, this 64 GB-SD-Cards are not realy cheap, but under normal conditions it won't faile for a long time, whatever filesystem you will use.
Thanks for everyone ....indeed
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rkk253755 said:
Hi,
Fat32 is universal partition for your music, ,video etc....
ext3 ext4 are used for android/unix/linux application storage...
be careful while partitioning you SD card...
read it before executing partiotion....
""forums.androidcentral.com/general-help-how/85809-tutorial-everything-you-wanted-know-about-app2sd-ext3-ext4-partitions.html[/url]"
-rkk
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hey buddy,
can u tell me i going to partition of memory card for music nd video i'll use FAT32 but second partition what should i do..ext3 or ext4 i ma using motorola g3 stock android is supported ext4 partition on android 5.1.1 or not cz plz tell me .
thanks in advance
shailesh406 said:
hey buddy,
can u tell me i going to partition of memory card for music nd video i'll use FAT32 but second partition what should i do..ext3 or ext4 i ma using motorola g3 stock android is supported ext4 partition on android 5.1.1 or not cz plz tell me .
thanks in advance
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Android supports Ext4 so I'd rather use Ext4 than Ext3
you can format it by Fat32
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Hi all,
I am wondering about the partitioning of my new external memory card manufactured by Samsung Electronics.
The very same manufacturer initially develop F2FS, the Flash Friendly File System for the Linux Kernel.
F2FS was expected to be the fastest F.S. for solid-state disks, eMMCs, and SD cards.
Initial tests confirmed it. Nevertheless posterior tests reveal that ext4 beats F2FS (...).
My guessing is that not enough research/test have been done in the matter.
Im going to set the following layout in order to test the speed for each partition:
1._ 34,7G EXT4 -> pictures, movies, backups, etc... AND/OR moved: APPs by hard/sym links; DATA by folder mount
2._ 65,0G FAT32 -> pictures, movies, backups, etc...
3._ 19,5G F2FS -> moved APPs by hard/sym links; moved DATA by folder mount
Depending on the results (specific for my phone and configuration) included in the reports from Antutu, A1SDBenmarch (possibly others too), I will most likely either:
1._ format whole microSD as F2FS -> roms,apps,data,pics,movies,etc; access using the phone (adb, usb, wifi)
2._ format whole microSD as EXT4 -> roms,apps,data,pics,movies,etc; access using any type of linux and many others
3._ format 32G as F2FS -> apps; format 64G as EXT4 -> roms,data,backups,movies; format 32G as FAT32 (any file smaller than 4G I want to be directly accessed from any device through any card reader using any OS)*
* I won't use fat32 as ext4 read/writes speeds are bit faster and i dont need to access the sd using any device
My goal is to format the external microSD card as F2FS and internal storage. F2FS is not only supposed to be better in performance but also it is supposed to expand it's lifespam
Note: Regarding partitioning the microSD in the computer, only linux will allow resizing F2FS filesystems; windows software doesnt recognize it yet, therefore it treats the partition as unformatted, neveertheless it's possible to move it.
Note2: there are programs that allow the user to mount linux partitions and read/write data on them.
Phone: Samsung Galaxy Note 3 SM-N9005, rooted, resurrection remix 5.6 (current,next5.8)
Card: Samsung EVO Plus 128Gb microSDXC UHS-I Class 10 U3 Card
ROM: Resurrection Remix v5.6 (Marshmallow)**
S.Soft: Apps2SDpro: Linked -hardlinks/symlinks- apps to F2FS partition on ext.SD. App data (TuneIn Radio recordings) moved -foldermount- to F2FS partition on ext.SD.
** I am currently designing the multiROM layout which will probably include the current ROM, plus Resurrection Remix v5.8 (Nougat) kali and some others
cheers
I just noticed that SD cards formatted in NTFS via USB work on the Shield tab (Lollipop). So, would it also work in the SD card 1 (slot)?
You need to mount the sdcard in ntfs mannually with third app.
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No. It also works in the SD slot.
What device? He he.
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Shield.
I am searching an android device installed upon ntfs, due to several hardware concerns that ext2/3/4 causes in emmc or ssd disks, i experienced bootloop, only because an ext2 error on my sdext2 partition, i took out the sdcard, and the phone booted normally.
Ext any kind, i believe exfat is brother of ext, Nevermore i pretend use.
After i learned that kingston taiwan's original notebooks ssd disks, are usinf ntfs, and i still never seen any notebook with standard linux installed, think with me: may be why?
Hm.
Now, i modded the link2sd scripts to start sdext2 in a ntfs partition, 2Giga is the minimum for good ntfs usage, and what i am experiencing, is not comparable with any device that i had, is crazyly fast, stable, and no errors.
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See this:
Ntfs breaks cached ads.jar in various apps.
Anyone heard somewhere , the gogle will change the adwares method?
Ha, may it because why?
See the pictures:
Youtube, running on sdext2-ntfs
And the File explorer showing the youtube cache folder,
The ntfs security, detected remote code in cache.
Called by ads.jar 1 & 2
The ntfs security, stopped these jars, and renamed to .fusehidden... that you see on the picture.
So?
What more the damn ext1/2/3/4 Done for away desteoying devices via malicious cached dexes and jars codes?
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