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Should I reinstall Gapps when upgrading CM10 nightlies?

I usually download both the ROM zip and the gapps zip, reboot into recovery, clear cache and dalvik cache and then install the ROM and Gapps.
My question is should I reinstall Gapps after installing the ROM or will the Gapps that is already there from the previous installation suffice?

My rule of thumb. Always clean wipe. Never have issues of leftover junk. Resetting up a fresh ROM is better then discovering a huge bug due to dirty flashing
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libbrichus said:
I usually download both the ROM zip and the gapps zip, reboot into recovery, clear cache and dalvik cache and then install the ROM and Gapps.
My question is should I reinstall Gapps after installing the ROM or will the Gapps that is already there from the previous installation suffice?
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As the CM10 nightlies install include a format of /system (which is where the gapps package installs), I'd say it's required. It certainly doesn't hurt to reinstall gapps after installing any AOSP rom (they may or may not format /system) and I don't think any will ever contain the google apps.
edit: flumoxed. Tested this with a format /system, install CM10, boot, no gmail, reboot, install gapps, reboot, gmail there, reboot, re-install CM10, reboot... gmail there. It sticks. Doesn't compute with the format command I see in the CM10 updater-script (along with a backup script of some sort). Will have to do some more testing. Still think it's best to always reinstall gapps.

hopesrequiem said:
My rule of thumb. Always clean wipe. Never have issues of leftover junk. Resetting up a fresh ROM is better then discovering a huge bug due to dirty flashing
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The problem with that is - I upgrade nightlies every couple of days and don't want to reinstall everything and make changes to my settings everytime I do it. Is there a one-click shortcut to restore everything if I clean wipe and install?

Go backup or titanium backup will get most things back for you painlessly.
On the contrary I've been dirty flashing cm10 nightlies for 3 weeks without reflashing gapps and I've experienced no issues so it's perfectly feasible but ymmv
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toddley said:
Go backup or titanium backup will get most things back for you painlessly.
On the contrary I've been dirty flashing cm10 nightlies for 3 weeks without reflashing gapps and I've experienced no issues so it's perfectly feasible but ymmv
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You're one of the very few then. The majority of problems in the official thread are people who have dirty flashed and when they finally do a clean wipe - problem solved.

CM10 Install = Force Close on all Gapps?

This never used to happen until a month ago or so but any of the CM10 nightly install fine (I am using the right gapps). Any how I do a full wipe install and upon boot all the Google apps modules keyboard, media etc start force closing. Anything I am missing here this seemed to start happening middle Sept with any nightly I have tried installing. Thanks for any help with this!
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pfriederichs said:
This never used to happen until a month ago or so but any of the CM10 nightly install fine (I am using the right gapps). Any how I do a full wipe install and upon boot all the Google apps modules keyboard, media etc start force closing. Anything I am missing here this seemed to start happening middle Sept with any nightly I have tried installing. Thanks for any help with this!
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Have you been re flashing gapps with each nightly? Also what version of gapps are you using, just to be sure.
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stnguyen09 said:
Have you been re flashing gapps with each nightly? Also what version of gapps are you using, just to be sure.
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I have used gapps-jb-20121011-signed stright from goomanager and also the Cyanogen link (wiki) for CM10 -- this started around the middle of September (I dont recall the exact date to be honest). I am not installing ontop of its-self I am doing a fresh install (cache, dalvik, factory reset, system wipe, etc) in TWRP.
When I do a new install (each time doing a full wipe) all of the gapps start crashing when the phone boots up the 1st time...
I just dont know what else to try here honestly and hope I can find an answer!

pfriederichs said:
I have used gapps-jb-20121011-signed stright from goomanager and also the Cyanogen link (wiki) for CM10 -- this started around the middle of September (I dont recall the exact date to be honest). I am not installing ontop of its-self I am doing a fresh install (cache, dalvik, factory reset, system wipe, etc) in TWRP.
When I do a new install (each time doing a full wipe) all of the gapps start crashing when the phone boots up the 1st time...
I just dont know what else to try here honestly and hope I can find an answer!
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just reinstall the gapps package

rohan32 said:
just reinstall the gapps package
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Actually Rohan something else is going on here -- even if I dont install the GAPP package at 1st I get things like NFC force closing on boot. The really strange thing is I installed AOKP release 4 and it does not have this problem -- it installs fine it boots fine it has given me no errors like the CM10 nightly's have (great work btw).

Return to stock gapps

I flashed inverted gapps from a post in the latest liquid beta using cwm recovery. Cleared cache, dalvik, and fixed permissions. When I got back into the phone I lost the s stock email app. So I want to return to stock gapps (20121212) so in cmw recovery cleared cache and dalvik, then flashed gapps zip. After the zip file finished installing I fixed permissions. When the phone boots back into android the inverted gapps is still on, and no stock email app. So am I missing a step somewhere while flashing back to stock gapps?
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elrichmeister said:
I flashed inverted gapps from a post on the latest liquid beta, and I lost the such email app. I tried flashing back to the stock one from goo and it stays on the inverted one. How can I return back to regular gapps without wiping my whole phone?
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Root Explorer or reflash gapps like the big boys instead of using an app.

prdog1 said:
Root Explorer or reflash gapps like the big boys instead of using an app.
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Sorry edited op, to be more clear on how I flashed the gapps package.
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[Q] About GAPPS

Hey there everyone,
I decided to make a new topic since my other thread had a way other issue. I want to have a custom rom of AOKP on my HTC one x. I've downloaded the file, installed CWM etc. Now my question is what Gapps do I need? Is it rom specific? I know that AOKP runs on android 4.2.2.
Do I need CyanogenMod 10.1.x 4.2.2 Gapps?

Pmage0wns said:
Hey there everyone,
I decided to make a new topic since my other thread had a way other issue. I want to have a custom rom of AOKP on my HTC one x. I've downloaded the file, installed CWM etc. Now my question is what Gapps do I need? Is it rom specific? I know that AOKP runs on android 4.2.2.
Do I need CyanogenMod 10.1.x 4.2.2 Gapps?
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Most roms will have a link to the proper Gapps package within OP but yes, if it's a 4.2.2 rom, the cm 4.2.2 gapps should work fine.

Pmage0wns said:
Hey there everyone,
I decided to make a new topic since my other thread had a way other issue. I want to have a custom rom of AOKP on my HTC one x. I've downloaded the file, installed CWM etc. Now my question is what Gapps do I need? Is it rom specific? I know that AOKP runs on android 4.2.2.
Do I need CyanogenMod 10.1.x4.2.2 Gapps?
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I believe you do if you flash the wrong version of GAPPS it can boot loop you.
Nexus 4 CyanogenMod 10.1.0RC2

exad said:
Most roms will have a link to the proper Gapps package within OP but yes, if it's a 4.2.2 rom, the cm 4.2.2 gapps should work fine.
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Ah yes, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2052610 This first linked me to an enormous site with alot of Gapps which confused me. But once I scrolled down to check I could still find the Gapps that were reccomended for that build.
Excuse me for my impatience Carry on!

How do I perform a FULL wipe though?

Pmage0wns said:
How do I perform a FULL wipe though?
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Reboot into recovery, do a factory reset, wipe /system/, and (optional) wipe the sdcard. Just remember that if you wipe the sdcard you will be wiping the zip files you were going to flash. So, you might want to do that part AFTER installing the Rom and gapps.
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A Full wipe consists of wiping: Cache, dalvik cache, system and factory reset in recovery.
TWRP 2.4+ seems to have issues wiping so if you get error messages or bootloops after doing a full wipe and flashing a new ROM, this could be why. TWRP version of choice is 2.3.3.1
Installing the wrong GAPPS will typically create Force closes when you boot up or try to launch and apps within GAPPS. I've never seen flashing the wrong gapps cause bootloops.

Shiizzzzzz, I flash every gapp package under the sun for every aosp Rom there is for the XL lol... My favorites are midnight gapps... Worked perfect on all roms.
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exad said:
A Full wipe consists of wiping: Cache, dalvik cache, system and factory reset in recovery.
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I keep seeing advice like this on the boards, but doesn't the factory reset wipe both /data and /cache? I honestly want to know so I don't give people bad advice.
Regardless, good call on the twrp version.
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Duckman5 said:
I keep seeing advice like this on the boards, but doesn't the factory reset wipe both /data and /cache? I honestly want to know so I don't give people bad advice.
Regardless, good call on the twrp version.
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Yes but redundancy never hurt anyone. Also, when you take into account the issues with both cwm and twrp across multiple devices, it's best to be overly cautious than not cautious enough. Sometimes I wipe it all twice just to ease my mind. If you read on Tweamwin's site, they also say that most ROM installs wipe the system partition so you should never have to wipe it, but I think we all know that's BS.
TWRP, CWM, ROMS, MODS, these are all developed by random people I don't know, who also have no part in the original manufacture/design of my device. Better to be safe than sorry, I always say.

Fair enough. I guess when you are dealing with stuff that could seriously mess up an expensive device a little caution can't hurt.
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exad said:
Yes but redundancy never hurt anyone. Also, when you take into account the issues with both cwm and twrp across multiple devices, it's best to be overly cautious than not cautious enough. Sometimes I wipe it all twice just to ease my mind. If you read on Tweamwin's site, they also say that most ROM installs wipe the system partition so you should never have to wipe it, but I think we all know that's BS.
TWRP, CWM, ROMS, MODS, these are all developed by random people I don't know, who also have no part in the original manufacture/design of my device. Better to be safe than sorry, I always say.
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I agree 100%
I always do double wipes of everything before flashing something. And I wipe cache/dalvik after the flash too. I expect that's the reason I never have issues after booting my phone up.
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[Q] ROM Flashing Question

Okay, So I have a Galaxy S III for VZW(SCH-I535) and I was wanting to flash a ROM but I do not know how. I read guides but I really don't wanna ruin my phone. Is there any ROMs that I can use with Odin that would be easier. I want to use the Latest Liquid Smooth ROM. Is there any way I can do this easily WITHOUT worrying about screwing up my phone?

Signature Beats said:
Okay, So I have a Galaxy S III for VZW(SCH-I535) and I was wanting to flash a ROM but I do not know how. I read guides but I really don't wanna ruin my phone. Is there any ROMs that I can use with Odin that would be easier. I want to use the Latest Liquid Smooth ROM. Is there any way I can do this easily WITHOUT worrying about screwing up my phone?
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no way to do this without rooting and unlocking your bootloader. which if you use casual, is fairly fool proof.

Lorenzo VonMatterhorn said:
no way to do this without rooting and unlocking your bootloader. which if you use casual, is fairly fool proof.
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I did that already. I have root and Teamwin Recovery.

Signature Beats said:
I did that already. I have root and Teamwin Recovery.
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Go and flash your ROMs now, you're good to go. You won't regret Liquid Smooth, it's my favorite SGS3 ROM and I've flashed almost all of them.
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joshua5683 said:
Go and flash your ROMs now, you're good to go. You won't regret Liquid Smooth, it's my favorite SGS3 ROM and I've flashed almost all of them.
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How do I do this without screwing up? Can you make a step by step guide? I cannot seem to find one. And if at all possible please make it simple. Thank you.

Make sure you backup your imei.
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bobAbooE said:
Make sure you backup your imei.
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I did a nandroid backup.

@Signature Beats Here this thread has videos on everything you should watch them several times and read as much as you can on anything that you are trying to do. Until you feel comfortable knowing that you can do it without the guide and comfortable on your personal knowledge. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41823572
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Signature Beats said:
How do I do this without screwing up? Can you make a step by step guide? I cannot seem to find one. And if at all possible please make it simple. Thank you.
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That's not really necessary it's very easy. To flash roms you flash zip files, then your recovery does the work to copy all the files in that zip to the correct place, then when you reboot you have your ROM. So for liquid smooth here is my tutorial: 1. Download Liquidsmooth, the download link is in the OP of the LS thread, also download Google apps, you'll see download links for that in the LS thread, it's something you need for AOSP ROMs. 2. Both will download as a zip file, don't extract it and copy the 2 zips to your phone's SD. 3. Boot into recovery, select Wipe and choose the options data, system, cache, and dalvik. You will always check these 4 before flashing any ROM. No more and no less. 5. Choose the flash option, in the file manager find your liquid smooth zip, confirm flash, and let it finish. You are now on liquid smooth hooray but you are not done. 6. Since you're on AOSP you do not have Google apps which you need or you won't have a play store app. So now flash the Google apps zip the same way you flashed liquid smooth. Now reboot and voila. That is how you flash any ROM. But for touch wiz ROMs you do not flash Google apps.
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Signature Beats said:
I did a nandroid backup.
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Your imei is different and you should back it up. It's easy to do and it really sucks when you lose it without a backup.
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@Signature Beats Here this thread has videos on everything you should watch them several times and read as much as you can on anything that you are trying to do. Until you feel comfortable knowing that you can do it without the guide and comfortable on your personal knowledge. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=41823572
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Dang I wouldn't have posted that huge thing if I knew this was gonna come up lol
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@jmxc23, I know that. I am just new to flashing in general. It has been a while since I did it on the GalaxyTab 7 with GB. Plus, I am not used to Teamwin just yt but am getting the hang of it. Also how do I back up my imei?

Signature Beats said:
Also how do I back up my imei?
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Download terminal emulator off the play store, open it and enter this:
su
reboot nvbackup
wait for it to finish and that's it
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@joshua5683, Okay did that. Now Do I wipe system, dalvik cache, cache and data? or can system be ignored?

Signature Beats said:
@joshua5683, Okay did that. Now Do I wipe system, dalvik cache, cache and data? or can system be ignored?
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Yup those 4. I think the ROM will wipe system for you but I like to wipe it anyway. Make sure you don't accidentally select "internal storage" cause that will wipe your SD card. Then after that you'll have nothing installed and that's when you install your ROM. Don't forget to install the gapps zip too after.
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joshua5683 said:
Yup those 4. I think the ROM will wipe system for you but I like to wipe it anyway. Make sure you don't accidentally select "internal storage" cause that will wipe your SD card. Then after that you'll have nothing installed and that's when you install your ROM. Don't forget to install the gapps zip too after.
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So I wipe Dalvik, cache and data AND system, correct? Then install ROM from SD card then Gapps after that? in that order?

Signature Beats said:
So I wipe Dalvik, cache and data AND system, correct? Then install ROM from SD card then Gapps after that? in that order?
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Correct
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@joshua5683, Okay, I did that. Still having the same issue with the keyboard not working and voice search not working and browser not working.

Looks like gapps issue. try other gapps packages or different ROM maybe
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chris_marsh said:
Looks like gapps issue. try other gapps packages or different ROM maybe
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Which ROM do you recommend?

Signature Beats said:
@joshua5683, Okay, I did that. Still having the same issue with the keyboard not working and voice search not working and browser not working.
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What was the name of the gapps zip you installed? It should be called "gapps-jb-20130301-signed.zip" you might have gotten a bad download with your ROM or your gapps or both. You can check the md5 to see if it matches. It if doesn't match you have a bad download.
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joshua5683 said:
What was the name of the gapps zip you installed? It should be called "gapps-jb-20130301-signed.zip" you might have gotten a bad download with your ROM or your gapps or both. You can check the md5 to see if it matches. It if doesn't match you have a bad download.
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I used the same Gapps as posted in the Liquidsmooth post.