I usually download both the ROM zip and the gapps zip, reboot into recovery, clear cache and dalvik cache and then install the ROM and Gapps.
My question is should I reinstall Gapps after installing the ROM or will the Gapps that is already there from the previous installation suffice?
My rule of thumb. Always clean wipe. Never have issues of leftover junk. Resetting up a fresh ROM is better then discovering a huge bug due to dirty flashing
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I usually download both the ROM zip and the gapps zip, reboot into recovery, clear cache and dalvik cache and then install the ROM and Gapps.
My question is should I reinstall Gapps after installing the ROM or will the Gapps that is already there from the previous installation suffice?
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As the CM10 nightlies install include a format of /system (which is where the gapps package installs), I'd say it's required. It certainly doesn't hurt to reinstall gapps after installing any AOSP rom (they may or may not format /system) and I don't think any will ever contain the google apps.
edit: flumoxed. Tested this with a format /system, install CM10, boot, no gmail, reboot, install gapps, reboot, gmail there, reboot, re-install CM10, reboot... gmail there. It sticks. Doesn't compute with the format command I see in the CM10 updater-script (along with a backup script of some sort). Will have to do some more testing. Still think it's best to always reinstall gapps.
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My rule of thumb. Always clean wipe. Never have issues of leftover junk. Resetting up a fresh ROM is better then discovering a huge bug due to dirty flashing
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The problem with that is - I upgrade nightlies every couple of days and don't want to reinstall everything and make changes to my settings everytime I do it. Is there a one-click shortcut to restore everything if I clean wipe and install?
Go backup or titanium backup will get most things back for you painlessly.
On the contrary I've been dirty flashing cm10 nightlies for 3 weeks without reflashing gapps and I've experienced no issues so it's perfectly feasible but ymmv
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Go backup or titanium backup will get most things back for you painlessly.
On the contrary I've been dirty flashing cm10 nightlies for 3 weeks without reflashing gapps and I've experienced no issues so it's perfectly feasible but ymmv
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You're one of the very few then. The majority of problems in the official thread are people who have dirty flashed and when they finally do a clean wipe - problem solved.
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I just flashed the 8/15 version of PA and was wondering if i have to completely wipe everything just to update to 8/18?
It is always recommended to do so to avoid any problems. But you can flash without the wipes and if you run into many issues, wipe and reflash
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I just flashed the pa jb update without wiping anything and it caused a world of problems for me I had to wipe and and start fresh to have a smoothly running phone again !!! Hope that helps
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I just flashed the 8/15 version of PA and was wondering if i have to completely wipe everything just to update to 8/18?
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You should not have to wipe data, just wipe cache and dalvik cache. However it is a better chance of no force closes or other problems if you do wipe everything between upgrades.
following the question above about upgrading, do I also need to reflash the kernel too?
Yes you would have to flash the OC kernel again.
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following the question above about upgrading, do I also need to reflash the kernel too?
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Or, you can just replace the boot.img from the PA zip with the one from OC kenel zip file (i.e. extract all the files on your PC, replace the file, re-zip, and flash as per-norm).
This never used to happen until a month ago or so but any of the CM10 nightly install fine (I am using the right gapps). Any how I do a full wipe install and upon boot all the Google apps modules keyboard, media etc start force closing. Anything I am missing here this seemed to start happening middle Sept with any nightly I have tried installing. Thanks for any help with this!
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This never used to happen until a month ago or so but any of the CM10 nightly install fine (I am using the right gapps). Any how I do a full wipe install and upon boot all the Google apps modules keyboard, media etc start force closing. Anything I am missing here this seemed to start happening middle Sept with any nightly I have tried installing. Thanks for any help with this!
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Have you been re flashing gapps with each nightly? Also what version of gapps are you using, just to be sure.
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Have you been re flashing gapps with each nightly? Also what version of gapps are you using, just to be sure.
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I have used gapps-jb-20121011-signed stright from goomanager and also the Cyanogen link (wiki) for CM10 -- this started around the middle of September (I dont recall the exact date to be honest). I am not installing ontop of its-self I am doing a fresh install (cache, dalvik, factory reset, system wipe, etc) in TWRP.
When I do a new install (each time doing a full wipe) all of the gapps start crashing when the phone boots up the 1st time...
I just dont know what else to try here honestly and hope I can find an answer!
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I have used gapps-jb-20121011-signed stright from goomanager and also the Cyanogen link (wiki) for CM10 -- this started around the middle of September (I dont recall the exact date to be honest). I am not installing ontop of its-self I am doing a fresh install (cache, dalvik, factory reset, system wipe, etc) in TWRP.
When I do a new install (each time doing a full wipe) all of the gapps start crashing when the phone boots up the 1st time...
I just dont know what else to try here honestly and hope I can find an answer!
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just reinstall the gapps package
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just reinstall the gapps package
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Actually Rohan something else is going on here -- even if I dont install the GAPP package at 1st I get things like NFC force closing on boot. The really strange thing is I installed AOKP release 4 and it does not have this problem -- it installs fine it boots fine it has given me no errors like the CM10 nightly's have (great work btw).
When going from one ROM to another (ie. AOKP to CM10), is it only necessary to do a "clean" wipe, or are other steps recommended, such as reverting to stock first? I used to have a Droid 2 and people used to recommend that, but I don't know if it's necessary with this phone.
Also, what exactly does a "clean" wipe entail? I've seen multiple explanations. This guide suggests that you need only wipe data/factory reset and format system. Other people mention things like wiping cache and dalvik cache from recovery. Is there any sort of consensus on this?
Lastly, is it necessary to do these "clean" wipes when flashing a new nightly or new build, or does this simply vary depending on the ROM in question?
Thanks.
If you change ROMs most people recommend doing a data wipe.
Clean wipe is wiping data. If you wipe data, /cache is wiped too, so any subsequent cache wiping is unnecessary.
It is not necessary to wipe data when flashing a nightly or updated build.
When going from one Rom to another or one base to another (4.1 to 4.1.2) a full wipe is recommended that's system, data, cache. Nightly builds are usually safe to flash on top of each other unless otherwise noted. Biggest advice I can give is if you don't do a full wipe and encounter bugs you should go back and do a full wipe to ensure its the dirty wipe that caused it.
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When going from one Rom to another or one base to another (4.1 to 4.1.2) a full wipe is recommended that's system, data, cache. Nightly builds are usually safe to flash on top of each other unless otherwise noted. Biggest advice I can give is if you don't do a full wipe and encounter bugs you should go back and do a full wipe to ensure its the dirty wipe that caused it.
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+1 its just not worth it.. Full wipe
Also when changing roms if the rom you are running has a custom kernel and the new rom uses a stock kernel but doesnt flash it then you will wanna make sure you flash a working kernel too
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Also when changing roms if the rom you are running has a custom kernel and the new rom uses a stock kernel but doesnt flash it then you will wanna make sure you flash a working kernel too
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Ha, I have made this mistake before.
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Also when changing roms if the rom you are running has a custom kernel and the new rom uses a stock kernel but doesnt flash it then you will wanna make sure you flash a working kernel too
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How can I verify this? It looks like AOKP has a custom kernel; what are the extra steps I need to take if I want to go to CM10 or back to stock?
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How can I verify this? It looks like AOKP has a custom kernel; what are the extra steps I need to take if I want to go to CM10 or back to stock?
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If you're on AOSP (which includes CM10 and AOKP) then you'll need to reflash an ICS Touchwiz Kernel to go back to stock. You can go from CM10 to AOKP on the same kernel, depending on the merges. Sometimes new merges make it so an older kernel won't boot, etc.
I have couple of question and need some help. With the new AOKP nightlies being release every 3 days or so, I would like to stay updated on them. So when I download them and proceed to update and flash over the old nightly. (Wipe Cache, Wipe Dalvik Cache) Upon reboot everything is gone icluding Gapps and seems that it instead of just updating the rom and keeping everything, It updates everything and wipes clean as if it was a fresh flash instead of a update flash ("Dirty flash"). Does anybody know why this happens? Is it that with the AOKP nightlies, you just have to always do a clean install and flash?
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I have couple of question and need some help. With the new AOKP nightlies being release every 3 days or so, I would like to stay updated on them. So when I download them and proceed to update and flash over the old nightly. (Wipe Cache, Wipe Dalvik Cache) Upon reboot everything is gone icluding Gapps and seems that it instead of just updating the rom and keeping everything, It updates everything and wipes clean as if it was a fresh flash instead of a update flash ("Dirty flash"). Does anybody know why this happens? Is it that with the AOKP nightlies, you just have to always do a clean install and flash?
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When I do this it causes my keyboard to f/c but my apps are still there
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When I do this it causes my keyboard to f/c but my apps are still there
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I can see why the keyboard won't work. That might be due to having to re install Gapps. But I don't understand why every time I update to the new nightlies, all my stuff is gone and it's like a full wipe fresh install/flash. Does anybody know how to avoid this from happening? Or is it that AOKP nightlies won't allow these types of updates.
I don't think there is a way around this. I've been using aokp for awhile and i just keep all my apps backed up so i can restore them after install.
Okay. Thank you for the help.
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Hey there everyone,
I decided to make a new topic since my other thread had a way other issue. I want to have a custom rom of AOKP on my HTC one x. I've downloaded the file, installed CWM etc. Now my question is what Gapps do I need? Is it rom specific? I know that AOKP runs on android 4.2.2.
Do I need CyanogenMod 10.1.x 4.2.2 Gapps?
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Hey there everyone,
I decided to make a new topic since my other thread had a way other issue. I want to have a custom rom of AOKP on my HTC one x. I've downloaded the file, installed CWM etc. Now my question is what Gapps do I need? Is it rom specific? I know that AOKP runs on android 4.2.2.
Do I need CyanogenMod 10.1.x 4.2.2 Gapps?
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Most roms will have a link to the proper Gapps package within OP but yes, if it's a 4.2.2 rom, the cm 4.2.2 gapps should work fine.
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Hey there everyone,
I decided to make a new topic since my other thread had a way other issue. I want to have a custom rom of AOKP on my HTC one x. I've downloaded the file, installed CWM etc. Now my question is what Gapps do I need? Is it rom specific? I know that AOKP runs on android 4.2.2.
Do I need CyanogenMod 10.1.x4.2.2 Gapps?
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I believe you do if you flash the wrong version of GAPPS it can boot loop you.
Nexus 4 CyanogenMod 10.1.0RC2
exad said:
Most roms will have a link to the proper Gapps package within OP but yes, if it's a 4.2.2 rom, the cm 4.2.2 gapps should work fine.
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Ah yes, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2052610 This first linked me to an enormous site with alot of Gapps which confused me. But once I scrolled down to check I could still find the Gapps that were reccomended for that build.
Excuse me for my impatience Carry on!
How do I perform a FULL wipe though?
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How do I perform a FULL wipe though?
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Reboot into recovery, do a factory reset, wipe /system/, and (optional) wipe the sdcard. Just remember that if you wipe the sdcard you will be wiping the zip files you were going to flash. So, you might want to do that part AFTER installing the Rom and gapps.
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A Full wipe consists of wiping: Cache, dalvik cache, system and factory reset in recovery.
TWRP 2.4+ seems to have issues wiping so if you get error messages or bootloops after doing a full wipe and flashing a new ROM, this could be why. TWRP version of choice is 2.3.3.1
Installing the wrong GAPPS will typically create Force closes when you boot up or try to launch and apps within GAPPS. I've never seen flashing the wrong gapps cause bootloops.
Shiizzzzzz, I flash every gapp package under the sun for every aosp Rom there is for the XL lol... My favorites are midnight gapps... Worked perfect on all roms.
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A Full wipe consists of wiping: Cache, dalvik cache, system and factory reset in recovery.
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I keep seeing advice like this on the boards, but doesn't the factory reset wipe both /data and /cache? I honestly want to know so I don't give people bad advice.
Regardless, good call on the twrp version.
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I keep seeing advice like this on the boards, but doesn't the factory reset wipe both /data and /cache? I honestly want to know so I don't give people bad advice.
Regardless, good call on the twrp version.
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Yes but redundancy never hurt anyone. Also, when you take into account the issues with both cwm and twrp across multiple devices, it's best to be overly cautious than not cautious enough. Sometimes I wipe it all twice just to ease my mind. If you read on Tweamwin's site, they also say that most ROM installs wipe the system partition so you should never have to wipe it, but I think we all know that's BS.
TWRP, CWM, ROMS, MODS, these are all developed by random people I don't know, who also have no part in the original manufacture/design of my device. Better to be safe than sorry, I always say.
Fair enough. I guess when you are dealing with stuff that could seriously mess up an expensive device a little caution can't hurt.
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Yes but redundancy never hurt anyone. Also, when you take into account the issues with both cwm and twrp across multiple devices, it's best to be overly cautious than not cautious enough. Sometimes I wipe it all twice just to ease my mind. If you read on Tweamwin's site, they also say that most ROM installs wipe the system partition so you should never have to wipe it, but I think we all know that's BS.
TWRP, CWM, ROMS, MODS, these are all developed by random people I don't know, who also have no part in the original manufacture/design of my device. Better to be safe than sorry, I always say.
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I agree 100%
I always do double wipes of everything before flashing something. And I wipe cache/dalvik after the flash too. I expect that's the reason I never have issues after booting my phone up.
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