Hi ! I want to hear your opinions about the new Jelly Bean update. What is positive and what is negative with the new update. Also what are your opinions about the new functions .
I noticed that there is another Thread about this. My mistake. I was typing for too long.
i have use JB in a few devices already, Galaxy nexus, Galaxy S3, Nexus 7, Asus prime TF201. I can tell you right away that this version is the worth of all. the opening and closing animation of apps is jerky. Not smooth at all. The task manager to close app is always butter smooth in other devices when you scroll up and down, here is jerky. Not sure if this might add because of the 1920x1200 resolution which is 4x higher than 720p and require more cpu power. This is kind of disappointed, i really starting to think that this resolution is to much for a tegra 3.
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i have use JB in a few devices already, Galaxy nexus, Galaxy S3, Nexus 7, Asus prime TF201. I can tell you right away that this version is the worth of all. the opening and closing animation of apps is jerky. Not smooth at all. The task manager to close app is always butter smooth in other devices when you scroll up and down, here is jerky. Not sure if this might add because of the 1920x1200 resolution which is 4x higher than 720p and require more cpu power. This is kind of disappointed, i really starting to think that this resolution is to much for a tegra 3.
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Are you on the balanced or performance mode? From what I understand the modes that save battery can csuse this with JB very noticeably sometimes.
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Are you on the balanced or performance mode? From what I understand the modes that save battery can csuse this with JB very noticeably sometimes.
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balance and performance. both setting perfomance about the same. tab on the setting icon, or browser icon, the new animation for JB is suppost to be butter smooth but in this version of JB for our TF700 is jerky. scrolling and pinch to zoom seem find for a jb rom. Can wait for zeus to grab this and do his magic.
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balance and performance. both setting perfomance about the same. tab on the setting icon, or browser icon, the new animation for JB is suppost to be butter smooth but in this version of JB for our TF700 is jerky. scrolling and pinch to zoom seem find for a jb rom. Can wait for zeus to grab this and do his magic.
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Ye. I find this quite disapointing to. Its not smooth at all. I think the full hd res is to much to handle for the tegra3
From my units standpoint it is not rooted and never has been the upgrade has made it much faster. I now understand what 'buttery smooth' means. No issues at this point with the download, upgrade, app loading or functioning afterwards. Wifi works as does gps. I use Boat as my browser and its significantly faster. Not quite as fast as my iPad3 but pretty close. Scrolling web pages is without lag now at least for me. Thank you Asus for a GREAT upgrade.
portrait mode wallpaper bug still exists it looks like. Am i right?
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portrait mode wallpaper bug still exists it looks like. Am i right?
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I'll let you in on a little secret. Get simple image live wallpaper. It causes no lag (multipicture lwp sometimes does) and it has no cropping either. You can even set different images for portrait and landscape modes.
I had similar jerkiness and slowness after the initial update. After reading the TF201 forums I was ready to do a factory reset right after updating. Since then, I've restored all my apps and widgets, regained root, downloaded lots of things in the background while using the tab etc.. I'm happy to report It's buttery smooth. If you haven't done a factory reset after upgrading, do yourself a favor and give it a try.
Also, I had an interesting bug. My SD card wasn't recognized until after I rebooted the 2nd time after my factory reset. It's working fine now.. it even seems to be reading/writing faster than before.
positive - we can now take pics while recording with the stock camera.
negative - the stock camera has a bit of a hiccup.
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I'll let you in on a little secret. Get simple image live wallpaper. It causes no lag (multipicture lwp sometimes does) and it has no cropping either. You can even set different images for portrait and landscape modes.
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Yes, but the reload on rotation is slow and annoying.
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Yes, but the reload on rotation is slow and annoying.
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I don't get any reloading problems. Multipicture lwp gets this problem. Simple image wallpaper does not.
Was the Screensaver option always available under Asus Customized Settings? I dont remember it being there.
Pretty cool that the notifications now show the sender and subject for outstanding emails.
So far so good. The installation went flawlessly! Seems to be much more smooth! Testing-IP
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1. Love the fact that we can pinch and expand the notification bar to see more details
2. The ability to just say "Google" from within search and it automatically prompts you to voice search is some next level sh*t!
3. System bar lock FINALLY
4. Overall though its not as "buttery" smooth as i imagined it would be, maybe doing a factory reset will help?
5. I dont know if anyone has checked but did they update supernote and polaris as well?
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1) I have the no icons on home screen bug until you flip back and forth.
2) Cool tool only shows in portrait mode for me now.
If you run into problems with apps and performance, I suggest to perform a factory reset. That should clear things up and insure a clean Jelly Bean experience. Also since JB just droped this morning, don't expect it to be smooth. The new OS needs to settle before you can truly see a difference. Just wait at least 24 hours before you praise or complain about your experience. But for the meantime, I applied a cold boot after I noticed a bit of sluggishness. Seems to have fixed that. Ill probably do a factory reset if my apps act up though.
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I had similar jerkiness and slowness after the initial update. After reading the TF201 forums I was ready to do a factory reset right after updating. Since then, I've restored all my apps and widgets, regained root, downloaded lots of things in the background while using the tab etc.. I'm happy to report It's buttery smooth. If you haven't done a factory reset after upgrading, do yourself a favor and give it a try.
Also, I had an interesting bug. My SD card wasn't recognized until after I rebooted the 2nd time after my factory reset. It's working fine now.. it even seems to be reading/writing faster than before.
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Didnt think you could factory reset, and retain root though.... ?
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Didnt think you could factory reset, and retain root though.... ?
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Proper procedure for this needs to be clarified.. can anyone who has performed a factory reset and maintained root chime in?
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I'm wondering if anyone can weigh in on how their device performs out of the box. I got mine on Saturday and unlocked it and am thinking of installing some of CM9's work because I've always like what he's done on the Droids, but I'm noticing that this tablet, for lack of a better way to say, is awful.
It freezes all the time. When you get into a the browser, whether it's stock or chrome, the pages are unresponsive to zoom in and out. I mean ultimately your action will be performed, but I've seen it take 5 seconds. It's actually unbearable. My D4 NEVER has this problem EVER and the tablet should blow the D4 away.
How does everyone else's tf300 work? And will custom ROM's improve this awful experience? I don't want to have to take it back and I won't if there is potential somewhere that I'm not realizing. I have 10 days left to decide and right now, it's a no-go. So if anyone can share their experience I'd love to hear it.
I bought my tf300 yesterday, and couldn't be happier. I unlocked it and installed aokp this morning and things have been great. Haven't noticed any lag viewing webpages, youtube, music etc. I've been very happy with this tabIet, as it's my first one. I believe aokp allows you to overclock to 1.5ghz (obviously it drains batteries a little bit more) but even on the stock asus rom, i encountered no lag whatsoever.
as shocking as it might be to know..i have not yet rooted the tf300t. i've been using it for over a month now..i got it the week that it came out..and i've happy with it. every once in a while you will see a "freeze" for now reason. It does seem to freeze more on startup because it is trying to do several things at once (like update gmail, corporate account, and sync up other things). But after that it is really smooth.
I was talking to another friend about this and he managed to hunt down someone else having similar issues to me and Asus declared their product to be defective, issue a new one, which works "flawlessly". I guess it's back to Office Depot I go. I refuse to let Apple win.
Hopefully you get a working one, I'm enjoying mine quite a bit. The aokp rom is quick and fun to use, and I refuse to ever own apple products. Go android!
I bought mine about 2 weeks ago , and it freezes one or 2 times , but in general works great , didn't unlocked and changed to custom roms yet but will in future , but for now i am loving it
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Have it now for 6+ weeks. Stock/rooted. Works like a champ. Good tablet apps are the issue, not the tab. No way you should have the issues you do.
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Nice performance
Got mine 3 weeks before. unlocked it and rooted from the second day, i am really happy from the latest update the us.30 for me. i dont experience any lag or freezes or force closes at all. The performance is better but it always depends on the owner.
I found useful to install an app called autostarts (needs root) that prevents apps from being loaded at any time u use your device.
For example i cant understand why google play store must open when i remove an application. With this program i prevent things from loading at startup of the device, so i have a quicker startup time and i know that no other apps are in use when i dont need them and only working is the app that i use.
U can see what apps are runnig at any time with a task manager or something relevant.
So as i say before the performance of a device depends also on the owner.
I bought 2 tf300's, one for me and one for my girlfriend. Mine has Cyanogenmod 9 on it, hers has stock (.30 firmware).
I will say that mine is noticeably faster, Chrome doesn't lag hardly ever, hers freezes up a lot more.
You should be careful about some apps too, Facebook in my opinion is the worst. That app will cause your phone/tablet to lag like nothing else, as soon as I uninstalled Facebook on my girlfriends tablet it was like a brand new machine (though still not quite as fast as CM 9)
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I'm wondering if anyone can weigh in on how their device performs out of the box. I got mine on Saturday and unlocked it and am thinking of installing some of CM9's work because I've always like what he's done on the Droids, but I'm noticing that this tablet, for lack of a better way to say, is awful.
It freezes all the time. When you get into a the browser, whether it's stock or chrome, the pages are unresponsive to zoom in and out. I mean ultimately your action will be performed, but I've seen it take 5 seconds. It's actually unbearable. My D4 NEVER has this problem EVER and the tablet should blow the D4 away.
How does everyone else's tf300 work? And will custom ROM's improve this awful experience? I don't want to have to take it back and I won't if there is potential somewhere that I'm not realizing. I have 10 days left to decide and right now, it's a no-go. So if anyone can share their experience I'd love to hear it.
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I was having this issue also and was getting pretty fed up with it.
However, after doing a reset on the device it works perfectly now. Resetting the device formats the primary partition and takes it back to stock (keeping firmware updates). You can get to this option by turning the device off and holding the volume down button when powering on and it should be the second option. This stopped the force closes and lags with my TF300T
I know that asus has loaded some bloatware on the tablet which cause it to lag occasionaly so i used seanz rom. It's so fast it's scary it really takes advantage of the power of this tablet.
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I know that asus has loaded some bloatware on the tablet which cause it to lag occasionaly so i used seanz rom. It's so fast it's scary it really takes advantage of the power of this tablet.
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Yeah. Seanz' Hydro rom makes stock appear laggy and unresponsive my device was running slow before the. 30 firmware update.
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The lag is mostly happening due to the I/O scheduler in the kernel. We probably won't see the true performance on this tablet until we get a custom kernel. The source is on ASUS's website but no kernel hackers have this device. The lag only shows when mounting and un mounting SD cards, writing to SD cards/NAND and downloading/updating Play store apps.
The only fix I know so far is to go find a SIO scheduler from the Transformer Prime's forum and install it. I did that and the lag went away but looking at benchmarks for I/O schedulers (noop vs SIO), noop has lag but higher scores and SIO has very little or no lag with lower scores.
Try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27948613
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Hey all. Is anyone else having major problems with Netflix? When trying to navigate through the library it is painfully slow, I am talking 6 second delay and then a choppy partial scroll when trying to scroll. I have uninstalled updates and cleared cache to no avail. Haven't rooted yet so I cant do a complete uninstall.
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Hey all. Is anyone else having major problems with Netflix? When trying to navigate through the library it is painfully slow, I am talking 6 second delay and then a choppy partial scroll when trying to scroll. I have uninstalled updates and cleared cache to no avail. Haven't rooted yet so I cant do a complete uninstall.
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I have this issue.. the netflix app is extremely laggy and unresponsive to me. Can't scroll because it thinks I am clicking where I start the scroll. Pages take forever to load. Very frustrating.
Otherwise happy with my infinity!
Yeah the netflix app is unusable in its current state. If you force 2D hardware rendering it does perform quite a bit better, but still damn clunky and way to slow to use IMO.
I am also having the same issue. Purchased my tablet from Amazon and this weekend I was playing around with it. Netflix very slow.
I've been going to the website and adding videos to the instant queue so I don't have to scroll on the Netflix app. The actual streaming works quite well though.
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I've been going to the website and adding videos to the instant queue so I don't have to scroll on the Netflix app. The actual streaming works quite well though.
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Yeah It does look good once you get it started. Its pretty crazy that they put the app on here stock in its current state though.
At least you can open your Netflix, mine just crashes when i try to open it. (As does the website... which is pretty odd)
Can anyone post the latest apk - I cant seem to download it from play.
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Don't worry, they updated their description on the play store with a download link.
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So my wife's Nexus 7 tablet does not have the slow Netflix experience.
However my TF700 and MK802 both have the slow Netflix.
Considering the Nexus 7 and the TF700 are both Asus Tegra3 devices, can only guess it might be a problem with ICS, solved with the butter in Jelly bean.
Given that the MK802 is an ICS device with the same slowness, it does at least support the theory.
Did try netflix on my old SPH-D700 (Samsung Epic 4G) running on Gingerbread, and the netflix app seems entirely different, and has no scrolling lag. So That narrows it down to the tablet version of netflix on ICS.
Does anybody have another device that it works well?
Maybe it's optimized for some specific GPU?
More likely it's a resolution issue. 1920x1080 takes a lot more rendering power than 1280x720.
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Considering the Nexus 7 and the TF700 are both Asus Tegra3 devices, can only guess it might be a problem with ICS, solved with the butter in Jelly bean.
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Setting the option to force GPU rendering fixes the issue entirely. I had horrible UI performance in Netflix until I turned on the option.
Go to settings\developer options\force GPU rendering. Terminate and then relaunch Netflix. Problem solved.
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Setting the option to force GPU rendering fixes the issue entirely. I had horrible UI performance in Netflix until I turned on the option.
Go to settings\developer options\force GPU rendering. Terminate and then relaunch Netflix. Problem solved.
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it does a lot better, but still not optimal. mine sometimes registers a tap when it supposed to be a drag and launches a movie or description when not wanted. i wonder it it's the tablet or netflix's fault on that.
I just tried Netflix again yesterday. I'm on Zeus 3. Downloaded Netflix from market. No lag for me anymore.
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I'm on Zeus' rom as well. Netflix doesn't perform any better now than it did when I was on stock. Still have to force 2d rendering to even be able to navigate at all, and even then it's still pretty slow. I want an interface that is smooth like the app drawer. It can't be that friggin hard.
The interface also sometimes interprets a swipe for a tap and loads up an episode I was trying to scroll past.
I'm not sure where the difference may be in our setups. I'm not even using forced 2d. Everything scrolls smoothly with no aberrant taps being detected. It works the way it should.
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I'm not sure where the difference may be in our setups. I'm not even using forced 2d. Everything scrolls smoothly with no aberrant taps being detected. It works the way it should.
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is it 1.8.1 build 573?
edit: actually can you give more info than that? are you using his default build.prop? have you changed minfree at all? disabled autodimmer? any other changes?
ashuras said:
Setting the option to force GPU rendering fixes the issue entirely. I had horrible UI performance in Netflix until I turned on the option.
Go to settings\developer options\force GPU rendering. Terminate and then relaunch Netflix. Problem solved.
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Thanks. Although Netflix browsing still isn't perfect, the above significantly improved it. It actually scrolls when the just a tinge of lag, but nothing to spoil the experience. Before, it was like it wanted to wait till all the images were loaded.
I also found this made just moving around in the OS much snappier.
Forced GPU renderign helps, but this is still slow, compared to Vimeo for example.
I also find that the audio is frequently out of synch with video when I view Netflix HDMI out to a HD TV.
I often have to wait for Netflix to respond to touch commands, I am very unhappy with the app.
I also have the problem of subtitles not being o/p to the HD TV, but I saw a suggested fix for that elsewhere.
I wonder if I should uncheck the Netflix developer fixes when I am not using Netflix. Any suggestions?
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So my wife's Nexus 7 tablet does not have the slow Netflix experience.
However my TF700 and MK802 both have the slow Netflix.
Considering the Nexus 7 and the TF700 are both Asus Tegra3 devices, can only guess it might be a problem with ICS, solved with the butter in Jelly bean.
Given that the MK802 is an ICS device with the same slowness, it does at least support the theory.
Did try netflix on my old SPH-D700 (Samsung Epic 4G) running on Gingerbread, and the netflix app seems entirely different, and has no scrolling lag. So That narrows it down to the tablet version of netflix on ICS.
Does anybody have another device that it works well?
Maybe it's optimized for some specific GPU?
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I have a tf700 with JB and experiencing same problems so it's not an issue with the android version.
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Setting the option to force GPU rendering fixes the issue entirely. I had horrible UI performance in Netflix until I turned on the option.
Go to settings\developer options\force GPU rendering. Terminate and then relaunch Netflix. Problem solved.
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This helped tremendously!
Got my infinity, love it all except Netflicks UI runs super laggy. Even on performance mode its runs slow. Anyone else have the same issue?
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Got my infinity, love it all except Netflicks UI runs super laggy. Even on performance mode its runs slow. Anyone else have the same issue?
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Do you mean Netflix? I'm just asking, there are new programs all the time, not trying to be mean
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Got my infinity, love it all except Netflicks UI runs super laggy. Even on performance mode its runs slow. Anyone else have the same issue?
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Netflicks?! Oh my, how proper! lmao.
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Do you mean Netflix? I'm just asking, there are new programs all the time, not trying to be mean
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Netflicks?! Oh my, how proper! lmao.
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Hurrrrr yeah, thats what I mean.
Try forcing 2D acceleration under Developer Settings. I think its called "Force GPU rendering." I don't have my TF700 yet but this helps Netflix on all other devices. It won't be silky smooth but it easily doubles the frame rate on my TF201.
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Try forcing 2D acceleration under Developer Settings. I think its called "Force GPU rendering." I don't have my TF700 yet but this helps Netflix on all other devices. It won't be silky smooth but it easily doubles the frame rate on my TF201.
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...but has been said to generally slow down the system, although it's theoretically meant just for older APIs, at least the benchmarks show considerably lower results when it's on.
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...but has been said to generally slow down the system, although it's theoretically meant just for older APIs, at least the benchmarks show considerably lower results when it's on.
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Thanks i just it back off. Hope netflix gets its self together soon
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...but has been said to generally slow down the system, although it's theoretically meant just for older APIs, at least the benchmarks show considerably lower results when it's on.
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It doesn't slow down your system. I'm sure benchmarks not made with it in mind will have lower scores but who cares? It improves the performance for many apps and that is what matters. It shouldn't affect 3D games as this setting only affects Android UI widgets.
The only real down side is that there might be an app or two out there that's not compatible with the forced GPU rendering(hence why its disabled by default). I personally have never run into an app that had issues but an app that extensively uses custom widgets potentially could.
I have noticed the same issue. The app is unusable as is...
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yep, this faster product is worse than my archos 10.1 in netflix navigation. good thing there are queue managers to take care of this problem. i hated the day netflix went from a text based instant queue to this pretty shiny crappy picture list.
We had this problem on the prime too. Forcing GPU redering seemed to help, but I can say it doesn't seem to help on the infinity. What finally solved it was an update from Netflix. Worked smooth as butter after that. I'm really surprised to see it so slow on the infinity.
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I just bought this device as a toy and a test as a computer tablet. I found it to be slow and buggy. I do notice that in browsing heavy pages like the real facebook page it IS faster than my Galaxy Note 1 but in almost everything else, the Note is faster and snappier. I have disabled lots of apps, resett it, no change. So my question, I guess this one is really worth rooting and installing a good rom Im used to the Cyanogen to my phones, is Cyanogen working good for this tablet?
Im still marveled by the quality of the screen, I dont think I ever have seen such a good screen! If I just now could get it working somewhat near as good as my Note 1 I will be a happy panda
Thanx in advance peeps
My experience is that it is NOT slow and buggy.
I could compare it with an iPad3 last week and I think they are very close.
You can't compare it with a note because due to the much higher resolution the gpu has to do so much more computing. That is why the nexus7 is faster than the tf700 due to it's smaller screen AND resolution
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I just bought this device as a toy and a test as a computer tablet. I found it to be slow and buggy. I do notice that in browsing heavy pages like the real facebook page it IS faster than my Galaxy Note 1 but in almost everything else, the Note is faster and snappier. I have disabled lots of apps, resett it, no change. So my question, I guess this one is really worth rooting and installing a good rom Im used to the Cyanogen to my phones, is Cyanogen working good for this tablet?
Im still marveled by the quality of the screen, I dont think I ever have seen such a good screen! If I just now could get it working somewhat near as good as my Note 1 I will be a happy panda
Thanx in advance peeps
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I'm on stock rom with browser2ram and force2gpu enabled. My table is very fast. Just remember before you flash a new rom, just do factory reset(data wipe 3 times). Also root is good (allow you to install rooted app like Titinium backup, SetcPU etc..), but don't unlock unless absolutely necessary (void your warranty), or you have time or like to play with custom rom.
Ok, sounds like I will root it then and try to tweak it, Im not satisfied with the speed with it sofar. Its seems stable now after I resetted it, before the reset, it crasched 2-10 times a day. My idea was that since the GPU and CPU is older in the Note, The Tegra 3 would be able to handle the FullHD resolution but it doesnt seem to .. I definatly want a ROM without the garbage crap
I plan to use it to write alot on, can you recommend a good office app? Or a browser that google docs work good with
Is games running good for you?? The new demanding ones I tried before resetting was really slow and laggy.
Thanx for the replys, I hope I get this baby running smoother
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Ok, sounds like I will root it then and try to tweak it, Im not satisfied with the speed with it sofar. Its seems stable now after I resetted it, before the reset, it crasched 2-10 times a day. My idea was that since the GPU and CPU is older in the Note, The Tegra 3 would be able to handle the FullHD resolution but it doesnt seem to .. I definatly want a ROM without the garbage crap
I plan to use it to write alot on, can you recommend a good office app? Or a browser that google docs work good with
Is games running good for you?? The new demanding ones I tried before resetting was really slow and laggy.
Thanx for the replys, I hope I get this baby running smoother
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Yes, all games, videos, pictures, and documents and apps are function normally. There are 3 most popular office apps:
1. Documents to go (this can view google docs also. Paid version only)
2. Kingsoft office
3. Polaris office (currently polaris has a bug with fonts).
My stock browser can view google docs fine. I think stock browser is the best in my opinion (have tried boat, chrome, mozilla etc...)
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My idea was that since the GPU and CPU is older in the Note, The Tegra 3 would be able to handle the FullHD resolution but it doesnt seem to .. I definatly want a ROM without the garbage crap
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The Infinity's performance is not CPU bound and is not due to the higher res. It's I/O limited. The CPU is plenty fast enough. As soon as the memory config requires the system to start hitting the /sdcard memory, the system will be subject to random stuttering/pausing because the sdcard memory is the cheapest, slowest, crappiest flash RAM ASUS could find.
This is why stuff like browser2ram is seen as a huge boost for people that do a lot of browsing and it is also why the stuttering varies from user to user/session to session since the RAM situation in the system varies from config to config and moment to moment during use. Some users who's config has a lot of free DRAM and do not frequently use stuff that hits the sdcard partition hard, see almost no performance issues with the tablet.
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The Infinity's performance is not CPU bound and is not due to the higher res. It's I/O limited. The CPU is plenty fast enough. As soon as the memory config requires the system to start hitting the /sdcard memory, the system will be subject to random stuttering/pausing because the sdcard memory is the cheapest, slowest, crappiest flash RAM ASUS could find.
This is why stuff like browser2ram is seen as a huge boost for people that do a lot of browsing and it is also why the stuttering varies from user to user/session to session since the RAM situation in the system varies from config to config and moment to moment during use. Some users who's config has a lot of free DRAM and do not frequently use stuff that hits the sdcard partition hard, see almost no performance issues with the tablet.
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Well,
I guess I'm going to do the downgrade to ICS .30\root\then try the rootkreeper deal back to Belly Jean.
I really don't want to go thru all this, but if I want to keep chipping away trying to find a better Android experience then so be it.
Pain in the ass...
Thanx for the info! That was my biggest thoughts about the Infinity, "is the RAM enough?" and it isnt but then Ill just have to multitask less and try to tweak it. And perhaps dont install multipicture wallpaper.. but thats one of the things that I love about my Note
buhoitr: thanx for the suggestions, Ill try them and see
What rom would you suggest for getting the most out of the Infinity?
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The Infinity's performance is not CPU bound and is not due to the higher res. It's I/O limited. The CPU is plenty fast enough. As soon as the memory config requires the system to start hitting the /sdcard memory, the system will be subject to random stuttering/pausing because the sdcard memory is the cheapest, slowest, crappiest flash RAM ASUS could find.
This is why stuff like browser2ram is seen as a huge boost for people that do a lot of browsing and it is also why the stuttering varies from user to user/session to session since the RAM situation in the system varies from config to config and moment to moment during use. Some users who's config has a lot of free DRAM and do not frequently use stuff that hits the sdcard partition hard, see almost no performance issues with the tablet.
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hobs0n said:
I just bought this device as a toy and a test as a computer tablet. I found it to be slow and buggy. I do notice that in browsing heavy pages like the real facebook page it IS faster than my Galaxy Note 1 but in almost everything else, the Note is faster and snappier. I have disabled lots of apps, resett it, no change. So my question, I guess this one is really worth rooting and installing a good rom Im used to the Cyanogen to my phones, is Cyanogen working good for this tablet?
Im still marveled by the quality of the screen, I dont think I ever have seen such a good screen! If I just now could get it working somewhat near as good as my Note 1 I will be a happy panda
Thanx in advance peeps
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Hmmm, I've found mine to be quick and virtually bug-free, but then again I didn't buy it as a toy.
A little tweaking and I wouldn't call it slow. Even stock its a solid piece of equipment.
Apply data2sd mod built for CleanROM 2 after installing the ROM. You'll need a fast sd card.
Research the threads. The blob for data2sd for that ROM was just posted today.
look at my I/O!
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I own both the Infinity and the Acer a700 and after the a700 got JB earlier today, I will say that the Infinity lags more than the a700 (and I was very happy with the Infinity). Colour me shocked.
The only time I really ever experience any lag or sluggishness is when browsing. I will be rooting once there is a method discovered for Jelly Bean on the Infinity. I'd really like to give browser2ram a shot. I've heard it does wonders for browsing.
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Better than ever
Before i say thing, I will list the important things about my tablet - C7 model, Has been repaired for speaker issues & Jelly bean 4.1.1. I'd say TF700T is a powerful device, It lacks the software for it. I use to notice quiet a bit of lag on ICS but after upgraded to Jelly bean, It's faster than ever! I would even compare it to iPad 3:laugh: I'm running Stock Jelly bean with a bit of removing apps here and there.
I Don't know why everyone is having problems with such a decent device.
ExjeetzZ said:
Before i say thing, I will list the important things about my tablet - C7 model, Has been repaired for speaker issues & Jelly bean 4.1.1. I'd say TF700T is a powerful device, It lacks the software for it. I use to notice quiet a bit of lag on ICS but after upgraded to Jelly bean, It's faster than ever! I would even compare it to iPad 3:laugh: I'm running Stock Jelly bean with a bit of removing apps here and there.
I Don't know why everyone is having problems with such a decent device.
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I you guys would read the Development section (read the newer threads, please) you would see that CleanROM2.2 has pretty much completely eliminated the lag and i/o issues. It's reason enough to root and unlock. This tablet is a beast when it is allowed to begin to reach its full potential.
okantomi said:
I you guys would read the Development section (read the newer threads, please) you would see that CleanROM2.2 has pretty much completely eliminated the lag and i/o issues. It's reason enough to root and unlock. This tablet is a beast when it is allowed to begin to reach its full potential.
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Im rooted and installed CleanRom2.2 this morning and it is indeed faster and smoother i will try the tweaking you guys suggested later. It still lagged when i downloaded my spotify playlists while i was downloading youtube movies tho
okantomi said:
I you guys would read the Development section (read the newer threads, please) you would see that CleanROM2.2 has pretty much completely eliminated the lag and i/o issues. It's reason enough to root and unlock. This tablet is a beast when it is allowed to begin to reach its full potential.
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I think CleanROM 2.2 is the route I'm going to go too...that's if I can figure out how to do it without asking a bunch of dumbs**t questions.
Still reading about it in development.
I'm getting more and more disappointed with this TF700T each time I turn it on lately...
Did really dig it for a while...not anymore
Will i unlock? No...
Thats OK said:
I think CleanROM 2.2 is the route I'm going to go too...that's if I can figure out how to do it without asking a bunch of dumbs**t questions.
Still reading about it in development.
I'm getting more and more disappointed with this TF700T each time I turn it on lately...
Did really dig it for a while...not anymore
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If it was really laggy and something that i can't deal with i would unlock but since it feels flawless, I might stay. I don't give a crap about their warranty but i do care for my device (brick)
ExjeetzZ said:
I use to notice quiet a bit of lag on ICS but after upgraded to Jelly bean, It's faster than ever!
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It's the total opposite for me. ICS was fast and virtually lag-free. The latest updates to Jellybean my Infinity lags like nobody's business. Very disappointing. Looks like root'n'rom time.
buhohitr said:
I'm on stock rom with browser2ram and force2gpu enabled.
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What is force2gpu?
(google seems to give irrelevant results).
Thx
squigs said:
What is force2gpu?
(google seems to give irrelevant results).
Thx
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If I may attempt an answer,
I believe that's a reference to the "force gpu rendering" in settings under developer options.
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It's no where near as snappy as surfing with Chrome on my Nexus 7.
I'm running Cromi-X with:
fsync disabled
that Chrome speed up mod option when you first install Cromi-X
I see posts on here where people's TF700's run smooth. What other things are you doing to your tablet?
Neo3D said:
It's no where near as snappy as surfing with Chrome on my Nexus 7.
I'm running Cromi-X with:
fsync disabled
that Chrome speed up mod option when you first install Cromi-X
I see posts on here where people's TF700's run smooth. What other things are you doing to your tablet?
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Chrome has always ran slow on my tablet. B2R takes away the lag mostly but it is still slow. I prefer Dolphin, Boat, and stock.
Tylor
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Neo3D said:
It's no where near as snappy as surfing with Chrome on my Nexus 7.
I'm running Cromi-X with:
fsync disabled
that Chrome speed up mod option when you first install Cromi-X
I see posts on here where people's TF700's run smooth. What other things are you doing to your tablet?
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Yeah its awful on the TF. No idea why.
Stock is perfect. Pages load quick. sbdags did an excellent job with it
KinetiClutch said:
Yeah its awful on the TF. No idea why.
Stock is perfect. Pages load quick. sbdags did an excellent job with it
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That's too bad. I like Chrome, but I guess I'll switch to the stock browser.
That's so strange, tho. Chrome runs perfect on the Nexus 7.
What are your settings in the Labs tab of the stock browser?
Neo3D said:
That's too bad. I like Chrome, but I guess I'll switch to the stock browser.
That's so strange, tho. Chrome runs perfect on the Nexus 7.
What are your settings in the Labs tab of the stock browser?
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Did you guys play with about:flags? Type that into the url in chrome and check it out. Its Labs ^2.
Ps-I'm the guy that wrote the B2R script for CROMIX and I run chrome beta. I can be made to run pretty fast, but not as fast as stock unfortunately but I prefer it.
I use to use Chrome on my phone and everything, but after a while was like na I'll try the stock one out. Haven't looked back since. Its quick and solid on Cromi-X
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Neo3D said:
It's no where near as snappy as surfing with Chrome on my Nexus 7.
I'm running Cromi-X with:
fsync disabled
that Chrome speed up mod option when you first install Cromi-X
I see posts on here where people's TF700's run smooth. What other things are you doing to your tablet?
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Try Firefox beta. Its running very smooth
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Chrome has gotten progressively worse in my experience, despite tons of small updates with "performance improvements". Recently it was all but unusable. I installed the latest firmware update and it seems to be better, so perhaps the problem is the stock ROM rather than the app.
I agree that stock browser is quite good. I particularly like the gesture mode (swipe from side and you get a speed dial for the different functions). However, I disagree that its page loading times are up to snuff. The browser's much slower than Chrome (after Chrome recovers from being unresponsive for a while when entering URLs). I think some of the issue may even be only apparent, since Chrome starts rendering pages immediately while stock browser waits until the loading bar is some 3/4 of the way, but still the (subjective) impression I get is that Chrome renders much faster.
If you google android browser tests there are quite a few fairly comprehensive ones.
Most of those note that Chrome for some reason just doesn't run well.
Quite ironic considering it's my desktop browser of choice due to it's speed
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elfaure said:
Did you guys play with about:flags? Type that into the url in chrome and check it out. Its Labs ^2.
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I enabled "Override software rendering list" and Chrome seems to be a little bit snappier. I will play with more of the about:flags settings and see if any of them really help!
Edit: I also enabled "Accelerated overflow scroll".
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Hey There,
TF700 stock not-rooted here, and chrome suck's, very laggy to change from tabs it looks like it re-render / refresh the page, and it usually get "stuck" and have to be closed, I still use it because I use it on my work notebook, personal notebook, Galaxy S2, and well, I really enjoy my favorites everywhere, but I have been using very little.
Does anyone got any improves just changing parameters on about:flags? We could do a sticky post with all the information about it, and the results of the tests.
I will give a shot when I get home, any improvements I will post here, even though I think I will change the ROM first, this stock is killing me.
Takx said:
Hey There,
TF700 stock not-rooted here, and chrome suck's, very laggy to change from tabs it looks like it re-render / refresh the page, and it usually get "stuck" and have to be closed, I still use it because I use it on my work notebook, personal notebook, Galaxy S2, and well, I really enjoy my favorites everywhere, but I have been using very little.
Does anyone got any improves just changing parameters on about:flags? We could do a sticky post with all the information about it, and the results of the tests.
I will give a shot when I get home, any improvements I will post here, even though I think I will change the ROM first, this stock is killing me.
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Obviously it's your choice but IMO just how frustrated i got with stock and Chrome browsers on the stock ASUS firmware was rendering the tablet unusable. It was so frustrating, especially in lectures where a friend on his iPad could look through about 5 tabs before mine had loaded a page and let me type an URL.
Since CROMI-X the stock browser runs incredibly well. (AS IN IT ACTUALLY WORKS LIKE ON MOST OTHER TABLETS) :laugh:
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Obviously it's your choice but IMO just how frustrated i got with stock and Chrome browsers on the stock ASUS firmware was rendering the tablet unusable. It was so frustrating, especially in lectures where a friend on his iPad could look through about 5 tabs before mine had loaded a page and let me type an URL.
Since CROMI-X the stock browser runs incredibly well. (AS IN IT ACTUALLY WORKS LIKE ON MOST OTHER TABLETS) :laugh:
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Yeah, I know about your frustration.
I just got to the forum (to actually post something), even though I have a galaxy S2 with ressurection remix for quite a long time, just now I'm having time to look for ROM's for the TF700.
I already got notes and will research about CROMI-X and will look for some more ROM's, do you know any other? I know that changing the kernel can directly affect the performance and battery on the ROM, I guess will have to research a lot.
B2R is best - I was using dolphin - not anymore!
Let's face it chrome sucks, even with b2r. I don't know what Google are doing. The stock browser combined with b2r is unbeatable IMO.
Hundsbuah said:
Try Firefox beta. Its running very smooth
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FYI - Not yet released, but I will add Firefox beta and Dolphin beta to the next final release of the MB2R script. There is some cleanup I need to do as well.
Neo3D said:
It's no where near as snappy as surfing with Chrome on my Nexus 7.
I'm running Cromi-X with:
fsync disabled
that Chrome speed up mod option when you first install Cromi-X
I see posts on here where people's TF700's run smooth. What other things are you doing to your tablet?
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You may need to fine tune your network speed and buffersize for a better loading and downloading. For example, hsxpa, dns, wifi read and write buffer, ipv4.tcp_mem, ipv4.udp_rmem, ipv4_udp_rmem, core.wmem_max and rmem_max=2M, tcp_congestion_control=cubic, and change your minfree a little more aggressive especially the last two numbers.
sbdags said:
Let's face it chrome sucks, even with b2r. I don't know what Google are doing. The stock browser combined with b2r is unbeatable IMO.
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Is b2r enabled by default? If not, how do we do that?
Yes it is enabled in CROMi-X by default.