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Switch SIP (txt input method) without stylus?

Is there some hack/app for that?
I'd like to map it to hw button for better one-hand usability, but I couldn't find anything about how to do it...

Hi krysha,
krysha said:
Is there some hack/app for that?
I'd like to map it to hw button for better one-hand usability, but I couldn't find anything about how to do it...
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I'm looking for such an app, too. So please tell us, if you found a solution.
TIA,
BGK

Since no one is stepping up to the mark for now, I'll upload this
All it does is switch to QWERTY sip.
At some point I'll get it to enumerate all SIPs and you can specify them from command line, but I've no idea how to enumerate SIPs yet. I'm only just learning C++! :shock:
If you send me the CLSID of the SIP you want, I might knock together custom versions, but I'd rather learn how to enumerate and do a nice solution... :roll:
V

Hi vijay555,
vijay555 said:
Since no one is stepping up to the mark for now, I'll upload this
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Wow, great. That's one big step forward! Haven't downloaded and tested your app now, but it sounds great!
A few months ago, I started to develop an app like this, but due to limited time I got stuck with it. But this could be helpful for your sipswitch:
Maybe you could get all installed SIPs by reading the registry (look for all entries with the key "IsSIPInputMethod" in HKEY_Classes_Root/CLSID/).
Finally, it would be great being able to select several input methods to switch between them (in my case, I normally prefer the letter recognizer but switch to Intellipad when I'm on the road :wink.
Greetings,
BGK

BGK: thanks for the info.
The procedure to enumerate SIPs is built into the API, SipEnumIM and SipEnumIMProc. I've never written an enumerator in C++, only VB, so I'll learn how to do it one day soon. If anyone cares to demonstrate how, I'll be happy to put it together.
I imagine what the prog will eventually do is enumerate the installed SIPs. Then you can specifiy by command line "SipSwitch.exe Calligrapher" or "SipSwitch.exe Keyboard" etc and it'll switch and popup that sip.
V

I finished it finally.
I managed to get it do to everything indicated, ie Toggle Sip and switch sip by name, eg SwitchSip Calligrapher will bring up calligrapher.
Bed time
V

Is it possible to change the SIP in silent mode? I want to change the SIP without the SIP to pop-up after change ? Possible?

Thread will be moved to Q&A (even tho it's MEGAold )

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Thread will be moved to Q&A (even tho it's MEGAold )
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Why? It has vijay's program that has been developed here. How does this not belong in development and hacking?

I hate the SIP panel, and I favor the switch the Input Method via keyboard silently.

How to make Pocket PC 2003 input software work on WM 5? (Celluon Laserkey)

I'm pissed. I ordered the Celluon Laserkey CL800BT as a mobile keyboard. But it appears it still has not had drivers/installation software created for WM 5. Nowhere on the seller's website did it mention this very critical piece of information. The Celluon website utterly fails to even mention the existence of WM 5 as something they either support or don't support, it's like they're stuck in 2003.
So, the question is... Is it possible to get this thing working on WM 5? I'm not sure if the input panel changes from 2003 to 5 are so big that the drivers supplied won't work or if it might be possible to just fiddle with the registry keys enough to get it to use the 2003 drivers. I figured out that certain registry structure changes were made in how the input software gets listed and so I tried to "upgrade" the entry for the Laserkey and that got the "Projection Keyboard" appearing in the list, but when I select it it just switches to the built-in WM keyboard input.
So, please, all you super clever people, help!!!
Quincy

Wow, that's a neat product. Thing is there is no difference in software keyboards between WM 5 and 2003 but what you have is a hardware keyboard that connects via BT.
If the drivers don't work it means they don't support your devices hardware or BT stack.
Unfortunately short of writing new drivers i do not see a solution to this.
I assume you tried installing it using the WM 2003 setup?
If it doesn't work i think you should ask for your money back.

Thanks, yeah, I tried the install for PPC 2003 and that completes, but as I mentioned the "Projection Keyboard" option in the SIP list does NOT appear. So I figured how what registry tweaking would make it appear but selecting it doesn't work. I changed the registry to point to the DLL I presumed should be called (there were only 2 that came with it, and I tried both) but nothing. I assume the SIP hooks into the DLL/etc. have changed from 2003 to 5.
It is an amazing product, if only it worked. Celluon must be in bad shape or something for them not to have current drivers (I contacted their tech support and have not heard back yet...). There are few things more annoying than having in your hands something that is amazingly cool and having absolutely no ability to use it.
I talked to the seller and it looks like they'll take it back, but I'm stunned they wouldn't have a big warning or at least a little warning/mention of the fact that it won't work on the current PPC OS.
So, warning to all, don't buy the Celluon Laserkey if you've got WM 5!
Quincy

One thing I just thought of, probably should have mentioned it before (this is really stupid of me):
Maybe the DLL you are messing with is not a SIP DLL at all? This is a hardware keyboard and it should work no matter what software keyboard is selected.
So try to do a clean installation (so your registry tweaks won't get in the way) and just open Word for example and type.
Also maybe it needs parring or some special BT settings?

Good suggestion, Levenum. I don't know exactly it is supposed to work, but I do know that you use the SIP selector to choose the "Projection Keyboard" and then it takes input from the keyboard. So, I'm pretty sure it really does act as a SIP. I've tried re-installing a few times, along the lines you suggest, having cleared everything out but still no luck.
I guess I'll wait another couple days and ship it back. I've written several times to Celluon but have yet to hear anything.
Quincy

Hmm, if they have written it this way (its possible of course) it would be a very stupid approach.
I had a chance to use a couple of hardware keyboards and they usually work separately from the SIP system be it BT or IR keyboard.
Strange that company creating a product primarily for mobile devices seems to know so little about them.

I too have the same problem with my IPAQ hx2490b running WM5.
I have found this web site which hosts a Celluon Laserkey driver for WM5 which installs OK without any registry changes.
The problem is that when the Projection Keyboard is seleted from the Input list and from the keyboard icon, I get a message to say BTM Cannot get current state. If I exit from the driver screen, I then get an error to say that the serial port is in use by another device which should be stopped before trying to use the Projection Keyboard again.
I have removed all of my other BT pairings, done a hard reset and started from scratch to no avail.
The CL800BT pairs OK until I load the driver. If anyone has any ideas for a workaround or has had success in getting this keyboard to work under WM5 I would be grateful for your advice.
I have emailed Celluon but have had no reply. The UK distributor has been trying to sort this for me for a week with no success.
IPAQ hx2490b
ROM 1.02.h
OS 5.1.1702 (Build 14366.1.0.1)
http://www.plawa.com/support/downloads/drivers/laserkey/

Laserkey and hp2490
Thanks for the info guys I found the web site and installed the 2005 drivers but as I expected I have the same problemb< ihave tried Celluon (waste of time never reply)
Looks like my new toy will have to go back unless anyone finds the answer

sucessfull test
Dear all,
there is a WM5-driver on the plawa page aviable -
and it's working as well on WM6 (testet with Hermes)!
okay, that's not a surprise - but the german shortcuts
are working as well!

can I have a link to the plawa page you refer to? I want to use it on wm6 too.
thanks

Keyboard evolution

Guys it's just me or it is a fact that the progress of windows mobile is really slow?
I mean there are several versions of windows mobile, 6.0 got our before 5.0 was even running well enough (not to mention several bugs in 5.0 that were barely fixed) and I wonder: wouldn't it be better to stick to an OS version for a longer period of time and make it run really good?
I won't go into a debate mac vs pc or anything of this kind, but isn't the standard windows mobile interface a bit boring? I like the iPhone for the innovative interface and design only, or another model I've seen m8 from meizu.
Something should change, not just a fancy gradient in the titlebar and the menubar!!!!!
I have a problem with the keyboards too. The MS sip is the same since 2002 pocket pcs!!! And that is really a lot of time of using the same cra.ppy system, and forgive me for overreacting but I think entering texts is a main concern, we all use these devices mainly as communicators or for various information storage that needs to be edited, moved from a location to another an all these actions require user input...
I know there are lots of experienced users on this forum, so this is a call to all of them , I need their suggestions in what would be the best choice for a text-input software for Pocket PCs?
I was using the SPB keyboard for about 2 years now I really like it, it's just that it covers all my text (yeah, I know it's fulscreen ), and I would like to try some similar variants: concern #1 : it must have big keys or it's useless to me.
Thanks for your time, everyone!

I'm using ZTA4 SIP, it's mainly for Chinese input but also can be used for English typing.
Cheers,
Vibranze

thanks, any link for that?

xda-addict said:
Guys it's just me or it is a fact that the progress of windows mobile is really slow?
I mean there are several versions of windows mobile, 6.0 got our before 5.0 was even running well enough (not to mention several bugs in 5.0 that were barely fixed) and I wonder: wouldn't it be better to stick to an OS version for a longer period of time and make it run really good?
I won't go into a debate mac vs pc or anything of this kind, but isn't the standard windows mobile interface a bit boring? I like the iPhone for the innovative interface and design only, or another model I've seen m8 from meizu.
Something should change, not just a fancy gradient in the titlebar and the menubar!!!!!
I have a problem with the keyboards too. The MS sip is the same since 2002 pocket pcs!!! And that is really a lot of time of using the same cra.ppy system, and forgive me for overreacting but I think entering texts is a main concern, we all use these devices mainly as communicators or for various information storage that needs to be edited, moved from a location to another an all these actions require user input...
I know there are lots of experienced users on this forum, so this is a call to all of them , I need their suggestions in what would be the best choice for a text-input software for Pocket PCs?
I was using the SPB keyboard for about 2 years now I really like it, it's just that it covers all my text (yeah, I know it's fulscreen ), and I would like to try some similar variants: concern #1 : it must have big keys or it's useless to me.
Thanks for your time, everyone!
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Try the skinnable Resco keyboard, several options available. See screenshot and download link below.

xda-addict said:
thanks, any link for that?
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I attached here, try it yourself
Instead of choosing the unknown chinese character, you can choose Abc so you will be able to type in English.
Cheers,
Vibranze

hotdog53 said:
Try the skinnable Resco keyboard, several options available. See screenshot and download link below.
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Something happened to screen shot. Here's another one.

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Something happened to screen shot. Here's another one.
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Thanks for the post!
Unfortunatelly Resco has too small keys, almost like the default SIP, I can't use it
vibranze I'm gonna try it asap!

vibranze said:
I attached here, try it yourself
Instead of choosing the unknown chinese character, you can choose Abc so you will be able to type in English.
Cheers,
Vibranze
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Vibranze thanks for the efforts but the ZTA4 SIP DOESN'T WORK ON MY DEVICE.
I have attached a screenshot, it loads, but it is unusable. Still it seems to have pretty small keys, but I'm not sure as it doesn't load properly, what could I do?

wow Guys, check this out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=322441
now this is a keyboard!

xda-addict said:
Vibranze thanks for the efforts but the ZTA4 SIP DOESN'T WORK ON MY DEVICE.
I have attached a screenshot, it loads, but it is unusable. Still it seems to have pretty small keys, but I'm not sure as it doesn't load properly, what could I do?
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Hi,
Attached is the screenshot taken from my device. Altough it's a bit small but if you use stylus it's far far better than the normal keyboard, and some more it's also support keypad typing
Cheers,
Vibranze

Opera Mini Text input problem!

Hello guys, I am new to this forum. I have searched for an answer to my problem already, but couldn`t find any. I have downloaded opera mini for XDA Orbit 2 (same as Touch Cruise). I used the HTC Touch download for it, as a HTC Cruise option was not available...I like it alot, its a fast browser, but how can I put text into the address bar without a hardware keypad? I guess its a simple answer to a stupid question, but I have no access to my software keypad once opera is started. Only option is: "Add symbol" and that is very unconveniant...
Thanks in advance, pTx

I was having this problem in my rokr E6 before and i fix it doing the folowing step.
go to setting and (uncheck the direct address input) and it will be ok

*yawn*
I've answered this question too in my MIDlet Bible... please DO USE THE SEARCH FUNCTION EITHER HERE OR IN THE BLOG!!!
In a nutshell: assign bringing up the SIP to a HW button and you're set...

Thank You! Your nutshell helped.
Actually I did use the search function, but as You probably know yourself, sometimes the search term is not 100% fitting->thus no success. I tried several with no answer at hand. Sometimes not so easy for non-native speakers...This may explain my question. If no one would ask questions or no one would answer them the forum would be pretty empty, wouldn`t it? If You think this question has been posted tons of times, You may delete the thread anyway.
Greetings from Magdeburg, Germany, pTx

In got my VOX today and I have some questions about it..

Well, I bought my vox today.
And it is really cool.
There are a couple of Questions I couldnt fix with the Help File.
For example, at the Home Screen on the Bottum you see: Start and Contacts.
Is there a way to change Contacts to Message or Send Text Message or something like that?
Also, I installed:
http://www.trianglepowers.com/PPC/ViewApp.aspx?ID=56
The install was alright but it doesnt work.
I don't see the Memory Bars on my screen? Do I have to enable that somewhere?
Also I've got a couple of questions about Specific software that I seem not to be able to find.
I think I should post this in a Separate Topic but I dont want to spam the Entire forums full, so i'll ask here
Has anyone made Scapy work on there Smartphone? Using PythonCE?
Also has anyone tried Super Puzzle Turbo Fighter ][ Java on there VOX System?
Since its not meant for it. But I think It should work. Though if it doesn't and I bought it. Well thats just a waste of money..
Is there anyone who used MiniStumbler on a SmartPhone? Since I can only find it for Windows Pocket PC?
And my last Software Question is:
MARS - [Memory Array Redcode Simulator, a machine that simulates a Corewar battle]
is a Programming game?
Is there a port for it in SmartPhone? Since else I should make it myself ^^
Well, I asked a LOT of questions. I hope nobody thinks I am a Leecher
Thanks already!
Cheers,
Robin

I'll answer the questions I know answers to and tell you that if you search you will find an answer, so here goes;
1). Yes. Search XDA for "Soft key changer"
2). That application is for PocketPC, it will not work properly on your Vox which is Smartphone/Standard.
3). Scapy does not work, as far as I am concerned PythonCE for Smartphones is a kludge.
4). There is a Java VM called Esmertec jBed. It should be able to run Super Puzzle Turbo Fighter just fine provided the resolution is within the Vox limits.
5). MiniStumbler does not work on the Vox, however WiFiFoFum does, it is completely free and has the same features.
6). MARS, there is no Windows Mobile or even CE port/release of this.

1). Yes. Search XDA for "Soft key changer"
Thank you!, I didnt know what to look for but now I do ^^
2). That application is for PocketPC, it will not work properly on your Vox which is Smartphone/Standard.
Ah, ok thats why I didnt work. But ofc tht is quite logical. I thought that didnt make a Difference if it was the Home Today Screen..
3). Scapy does not work, as far as I am concerned PythonCE for Smartphones is a kludge.
Ok, well thanks.
I am going to write something like this myself then. If it's done I'll post it here.
4). There is a Java VM called Esmertec jBed. It should be able to run Super Puzzle Turbo Fighter just fine provided the resolution is within the Vox limits.
Ok, thats GREAT! I am going to get myself a Copy right away!
5). MiniStumbler does not work on the Vox, however WiFiFoFum does, it is completely free and has the same features.
That other program is fine aswell. Just wanted to find WifiNetworks. ^^
6). MARS, there is no Windows Mobile or even CE port/release of this.
I found a fix. PocketDOS!! ^^ I just run it on Dos.
Thanks for all this, your a great help =)
Cheers,
Robin

You can also use Smarttweak v.1.07. It can modify alot in your vox and removes the message sent notification after sending an sms. There is a crack version here in one of the topics here. just look for it. ciao!

i can help you in chinese ,but i do not think you know chinese...
so i can do nothing.sorry about this

defyeo said:
You can also use Smarttweak v.1.07. It can modify alot in your vox and removes the message sent notification after sending an sms.
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How to disable that?
I want to see that sent notification.