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G2X, is it dead to the world?

I'd like to get the communities thoughts on this. It seems that to the app world the g2x won't get any support like it isn't relevant. Skype already added Sensation support for video calling, netflix we're still waiting motorola atrix has it, just got qik due to tmobile pressure (crap anyway). No google talk with video. Etc, etc. Is this device dead to the rest of the world? Seems like it.
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mr mystery said:
I'd like to get the communities thoughts on this. It seems that to the app world the g2x won't get any support like it isn't relevant. Skype already added Sensation support for video calling, netflix we're still waiting motorola atrix has it, just got qik due to tmobile pressure (crap anyway). No google talk with video. Etc, etc. Is this device dead to the rest of the world? Seems like it.
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most likely noone wants to put an app on this phone since tmobile continues to blame apps for the ****ty phones problems.
i refuse to do my rom for this phone because i cant determine if i caused a problem or the dirvers or the phone itself. its just not worth my time.
THan again they probably work with the phone developers to get these apps out and i would bet lg hasnt responded or done what is asked of them.

eagle1967 said:
most likely noone wants to put an app on this phone since tmobile continues to blame apps for the ****ty phones problems.
i refuse to do my rom for this phone because i cant determine if i caused a problem or the dirvers or the phone itself. its just not worth my time.
THan again they probably work with the phone developers to get these apps out and i would bet lg hasnt responded or done what is asked of them.
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I know what you mean. I have pretty much had my fill of the g2x debacle. I have had both the Sensation and the G2X since June 8, but I have finally decided to sell my G2X on craigslist. There's just no reason for me to keep it at this point, it's become more of a liability than anything.

well it's because all the exaggerated negative posts on this forum when the g2x was released and then when people google g2x and read this forum the power of suggestion leads them to believe that "yeah, there is flaws with the g2x" then they in turn start posting BS about so called "problems" on other g2x forums and then it spread like wild fire, making ppl who never even tried the phone to conclude the phone is a bust.
All the slanderous, false and exaggerated remarks about the G2x in the first 3 months never gave it a chance to shine and show it's true potential.
But those that know better, this phone is a Beast and definitley a keeper.

mr mystery said:
I'd like to get the communities thoughts on this. It seems that to the app world the g2x won't get any support like it isn't relevant. Skype already added Sensation support for video calling, netflix we're still waiting motorola atrix has it, just got qik due to tmobile pressure (crap anyway). No google talk with video. Etc, etc. Is this device dead to the rest of the world? Seems like it.
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I've had the G2X since the day it came out. The only real issue I've had with it is a random reboot once every couple of days.
I'm MUCH more troubled by the recent trend of app support by phone model. That's the LAST thing Android needs now and it's mostly driven by DRM concerns rathern than technical ones.

jacob808 said:
well it's because all the exaggerated negative posts on this forum when the g2x was released and then when people google g2x and read this forum the power of suggestion leads them to believe that "yeah, there is flaws with the g2x" then they in turn start posting BS about so called "problems" on other g2x forums and then it spread like wild fire, making ppl who never even tried the phone to conclude the phone is a bust.
All the slanderous, false and exaggerated remarks about the G2x in the first 3 months never gave it a chance to shine and show it's true potential.
But those that know better, this phone is a Beast and definitley a keeper.
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You can't be serious. Your saying that people are lying about their issues with the G2X? I had to purchase 5 G2X's to get a working one that didn't freeze or reboot a couple tines a day. If you want, I can show you my receipts for the returns so you don't think I'm a liar.
In my opinion, 1 out of 5 devices is not a good ratio. Was there people lying about problems they were having? Of course. There's trolls on every forum who don't own the device and just want to start giving other ones bad names. Are there people who have had multiple devices with the same exact problems. Yes, I'm one of them and there are people here who I trust who are reporting the same thing.
I agree, its a good device of you get a bug free version but lets be honest. Not everyone gets lucky.
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jacob808 said:
when people google g2x and read this forum the power of suggestion leads them to believe that "yeah, there is flaws with the g2x"
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LG acknowledged the problems with the phone before it was ever released in the U.S. They could have salvaged the phone and their reputation if they reacted back in March when they became aware of the problems. Instead, things got so bad T-Mobile pulled the phone. I don't think they did that because of what they read on this forum. Even today, after nine months of coding, the best LG can do is a GB ROM with A Froyo kernel. That's what screwed up the phone, not "the power of suggestion." And with the likelihood of future LG ROM and driver updates being pretty much non-existent that will effect the devs working on the phone.

So all those lock ups, battery pulls and random crap was all in my head? Thank you so much for the clarity. I feel better now.
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jacob808 said:
well it's because all the exaggerated negative posts on this forum when the g2x was released and then when people google g2x and read this forum the power of suggestion leads them to believe that "yeah, there is flaws with the g2x" then they in turn start posting BS about so called "problems" on other g2x forums and then it spread like wild fire, making ppl who never even tried the phone to conclude the phone is a bust.
All the slanderous, false and exaggerated remarks about the G2x in the first 3 months never gave it a chance to shine and show it's true potential.
But those that know better, this phone is a Beast and definitley a keeper.
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But slander is thrown out when the statements are true. so therefore its not slander.
But your right. i have seen many phones get pulled from the carriers because of false accounts of user experiences... oh wait i have seen phones with just as many problems reported that were never pulled. so maybe that makes this one worse of all time?
jacob.. not sure if you work for tmobile or lg but it wont work sorry.
the phone has a bad rep for a good reason. and the same phone over seas had the same problmes 2 months before it was even released here. so you can thank LG for releasing a phone they already knew had big problems.
Glad you seemed to get one of the few early release phones that didnt have the problems. but just because you have 20 dollars in your pocket doesnt mean every does..get it... just becaue your phone worked doesnt mean everyone here is making something up. tmobile pulling the phone is all the proof needed.. if you can understand that than there is really no hope for you.

jrwingate6 said:
You can't be serious. Your saying that people are lying about their issues with the G2X? I had to purchase 5 G2X's to get a working one that didn't freeze or reboot a couple tines a day. If you want, I can show you my receipts for the returns so you don't think I'm a liar.
In my opinion, 1 out of 5 devices is not a good ratio. Was there people lying about problems they were having? Of course. There's trolls on every forum who don't own the device and just want to start giving other ones bad names. Are there people who have had multiple devices with the same exact problems. Yes, I'm one of them and there are people here who I trust who are reporting the same thing.
I agree, its a good device of you get a bug free version but lets be honest. Not everyone gets lucky.
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I'll agree with this post. At first getting 5 good in a row I thought those with issues were nuts..
Then I received 2 bad ones after that, getting it free on a new line.. Nothing new on the phone and it froze and rebooted like crazy, 2 in a row... Now I finally got a good one again no issues.. So I had 2 bad out of 8. 25% bad vs good here, but its true, there are defective ones for sure that can't be fixed no matter what you do..... So ya its true there are good ones and there are bad. You will know in the first 12 hours...
When you get a non defective one there awesome..

So back to my question, do you guys also feel like this phone is now dead to the market?
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mr mystery said:
So back to my question, do you guys also feel like this phone is now dead to the market?
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I hope not. Love my phone.
But I do see what you mean, ignored by skype and Oovoo up until recently.

blestsol said:
I hope not. Love my phone.
But I do see what you mean, ignored by skype and Oovoo up until recently.
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Don't get me wrong I love my g2x as well, just bothered by the app support that doesn't appear to be changing.
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It's upsetting, because this phone blows the Sensation away
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mr mystery said:
So back to my question, do you guys also feel like this phone is now dead to the market?
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I'd have to say yes. Not only with the general market, but also on the development side. I can't see anyone else doing development for the G2x other than the great devs we already have.
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blestsol said:
I hope not. Love my phone.
But I do see what you mean, ignored by skype and Oovoo up until recently.
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Oovoo on g2x has long been working. Skype ignores all tegra 2 devices not just g2x.
We only have few devs, especially if you came from hd2. Plus, we have had a lot of whiners few months back.
This past days, g2x forums in rootzwiki has been very active, even devs post their builds there first than here.
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Considering I'll never use Netflix or Skype, no, the G2x is not dead to the world. There are still what, 12 billion apps that can be used?
mr mystery said:
Don't get me wrong I love my g2x as well, just bothered by the app support that doesn't appear to be changing.
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What app support? 3 programs? That's basis for the "APP WORLD HAS ABANDONED THE G2X?" Come on! Give me a break. I'm sure all the apps your heart is missing will soon enough be working on your phone.
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jose makalolot said:
Oovoo on g2x has long been working. Skype ignores all tegra 2 devices not just g2x.
We only have few devs, especially if you came from hd2. Plus, we have had a lot of whiners few months back.
This past days, g2x forums in rootzwiki has been very active, even devs post their builds there first than here.
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Oovoo didnt work for me for a minute. Even when I was stock it said device not supported.
It was only a few updates ago where I seen it say now supports G2x.

blestsol said:
Oovoo didnt work for me for a minute. Even when I was stock it said device not supported.
It was only a few updates ago where I seen it say now supports G2x.
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I've done a video chat using ooVoo twice on my G2X, after that, it just stopped working. It loads up, and the interface is EXTREMELY slow!

dkb218 said:
Considering I'll never use Netflix or Skype, no, the G2x is not dead to the world. There are still what, 12 billion apps that can be used?
What app support? 3 programs? That's basis for the "APP WORLD HAS ABANDONED THE G2X?" Come on! Give me a break. I'm sure all the apps your heart is missing will soon enough be working on your phone.
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3 of the most sought after and usable apps friend. Give me a break thanks.
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Who is Thinking of Jumping Ship to the SGS2?

Now that it is official I am not sure if it is the device that is getting me excited or all the hype around it. I really like the idea of the larger screen and super thin body. Wish it was qhd though. I guess with every good thing comes a bad thing......
Thinking the only way to get it without spending money is to add a line, cancel my 3D's line and sell the 3D on Craigs list. That should cover the both costs.......Anyone know what Sprint's max cancelation charge is?
Like I said, just thinking about it now and would like to hear what others are planning on doing. Hopefully this doesn't turn into a flame war......Just looking to see if people jumping ship have a better way to get there then what I was thinking of doing......

RushAOZ said:
The gs2 is blasphemy in these forums. The mods and posters with insecurity and denial will attack you. Dump the 3d. Get the gs2.
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Lol, reported because you are annoying.
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Thought about it, no. Got screwed enough with no lube by Samsung, thanks.

[email protected] said:
Not that it is official I am not sure if it is the device that is getting me excited or all the hype around it. I really like the idea of the larger screen and super thin body. Wish it was qhd though. I guess with every good thing comes a bad thing......
Thinking the only way to get it without spending money is to add a line, cancel my 3D's line and sell the 3D on Craigs list. That should cover the both costs.......Anyone know what Sprint's max cancelation charge is?
Like I said, just thinking about it now and would like to hear what others are planning on doing. Hopefully this doesn't turn into a flame war......Just looking to see if people jumping ship have a better way to get there then what I was thinking of doing......
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The SGS II will only be a good phone because of the Dev support. Samsung has a hard time updating the software for some reason. Gingerbread hasn't even been rolled out to the original Epic for god's sake.

RushAOZ said:
The gs2 is blasphemy in these forums. The mods and posters with insecurity and denial will attack you. Dump the 3d. Get the gs2.
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Hopefully if we don't get trolls and people give there honest opinions this thread can stay open because I really want to see what people have to say and what they will be doing now that the device is official.
I have been with HTC for the past 5 years but if something better comes along I am not afraid to go....
Obviously no one has played with it yet but I want to know people's thoughts just based on the announcement and if they are regretting the 3D purchase....

Im all in, day one.

The thread can stay open if the trolling idiots stay quiet

aypanthony said:
The SGS II will only be a good phone because of the Dev support. Samsung has a hard time updating the software for some reason. Gingerbread hasn't even been rolled out to the original Epic for god's sake.
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The epics an exception. They can't seem to get the keyboard and radio figured out. This is the reason all sgs2s will be the sane and not have a keyboard lol. You also have to remember that update fiasco had more to do with carriers than Samsung themselves. The sgs had their updates right on time. I'm also curious about the op question. I've always wondered what would happen to your handset if cancelled within the first 6 months.
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the_scotsman said:
The thread can stay open if the trolling idiots stay quiet
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MOD EDIT: Goodbye

Well i guess it depends on you, I like a thinner device and i know it will have a better camera but I hatethe cheap feel of Samsung devices and.the updates , gingerbread is over nine months old and nothing official for the epic, so what would make me think they will get it on time on the second.device, same thing goes with the photon MOTO devices rake forever to update, that's why I stick with the EVO 3d but all 3 phones are great phones
MGS on my iPad

RushAOZ said:
The epics an exception. They can't seem to get the keyboard and radio figured out. This is the reason all sgs2s will be the sane and not have a keyboard lol. You also have to remember that update fiasco had more to do with carriers than Samsung themselves. The sgs had their updates right on time. I'm also curious about the op question. I've always wondered what would happen to your handset if cancelled within the first 6 months.
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Well, google didn't have much luck with the nexus s at first either Hence their nickname the Nexus B lol
I won't lie the, gs2 is a beast of a phone. I also think the E3D has been underutilized so far though, this phone has a lot more potential than it gets credit for. Plus the Evo was updated to gingerbread around the same time the epic was getting froyo, it would have came before but HTC waited for gingerbreak to be patched before pushing the update.
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I hate to admit it as I have been a die-hard HTC fan, but, as far as my experience is concerned (on 3rd E3D) I think they really botched this flagship. YMMV, of course.
So long as the SGS2 has a radio that is as good (read: no weaker than) the E3D I'll be happy. The Radio on the NS4G was pitifully weak, the E3D is no better...even after a few. I can live with this. The signal strength indicator can't be trusted on it's own, go by actual measurements and most importantly missed/dropped calls and roaming....and I miss and drop and roam more than ever. It sucks. I do love this phone. I will greatly miss the qHD.
I became fine with the uber-weak radio, but, the final straw is the increasingly bad power-on fiasco. Sometimes it does, some times it doesn't. Some times it will be plugged in with a green light locked up tight (requiring a battery pull and SD card pull) *AND* have a dead battery on top of it. It's at the point where I have a backup alarm set up. Yeah yeah yeah, if I need an alarm clock USE an alarm clock...well, no other phone ever gave me any issues, so, I'm going to say that it is not unreasonable to expect my phone to A> turn on and B> charge while plugged into the charger.
I've tried hard, I do love this phone...even the horrid form factor has really grown on me. But I barely use the 3D enough to really miss... I may keep the E3D, it is a rather unique phone, but, SGS2 here I come....Also, aside from touchwiz (which is easily disgarded) it is a nearly stock Android experience....and Samsung has Cyanogen on their payroll. That can't be bad.
I will miss you guys, I'll be back to visit though. It has been fun.

RushAOZ said:
The gs2 is blasphemy in these forums. The mods and posters with insecurity and denial will attack you. Dump the 3d. Get the gs2.
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Honestly, I think its more insecure when somebody has a decent phone and has to make a thread asking for their peers/competitions approval to get the other phone. Btw, I have a nokia 1100. Do you think I should upgrade to the nokia 6630?
I voided my warranty and your mum.

The reason the new phone does not appeal to me that much is because it is WIDE -even wider than the Evo 4G. And taller too.

pukemon said:
Honestly, I think its more insecure when somebody has a decent phone and has to make a thread asking for their peers/competitions approval to get the other phone. Btw, I have a nokia 1100. Do you think I should upgrade to the nokia 6630?
I voided my warranty and your mum.
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I see it more like asking the opinions of people you consider knowledgeable on the subject. You'd be a fool to not ask people who are very familiar with something when considering whether to buy it or not....especially when it's such a relatively pricey gadget. Take it as a compliment that someone (may) respect your opinion enough on the subject to take your advice to heart.
We are a community here. I doubt any of us actually give a crap of another approves of one another in a social context, especially when starting a thread like this (so long as it isn't obviously trollbait).

For the life of me i don't know why you won't take this into the correct forum...at this point you are trolling and trying to cause a flame war..go back to the Samsung website and dry hump a pic of the gs2 ..i mean its specs are unprecedented..a 1.2 ghz dual core...whoaa.. a gig of RAM? Holy moly...a wvga screen..omfg... This thing ****s on everything...there is nothing else like it..I bet it will load up webpages a third of a.second faster than the e3d and that is very important..mods pls get rid of this rush guy..he's been causing trouble for hours and its getting on everyones nerves

You guys know that instant feeling of anger, shame, befuddlement you get when you see a trailer for a movie that has already been made 2 times before?
And like... The 1st one wasn't good to begin with but it got a lot of "views" so they keep doing it...
Over
And over
And over...
Imagine that, this thread reminded me of those crappy remake movies.

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daneurysm said:
I see it more like asking the opinions of people you consider knowledgeable on the subject. You'd be a fool to not ask people who are very familiar with something when considering whether to buy it or not....especially when it's such a relatively pricey gadget.
We are a community here. I doubt any of us actually give a crap of another approves of one another in a social context, especially when starting a thread like this (so long as it isn't obviously trollbait).
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Are you serious? Its a phone that hasn't come out yet, and at that, it just a variation of a phone that is out with a bigger screen. Seriously? I could be real mean here but I wont. Guys do you think I should get the pink shirt with BIGGER yellow stripes?
I voided my warranty and your mum.

[4.0] Problems (ME865/MB865/AT&T)

Let me share some first :
1. I just found that the rom can't run NFS Shift smoothly, at least in the racing part but not in the menu part.
2. I can connect my home wifi with 72Mbps (it reports...) but no data transfer after few seconds.... I'm still checking if there is a fxxxxxx guy using wifikill targeted on mine phone...
My phone is ME865 using the China leaked rom.

These are perfect examples of why you should NOT run the leaked firmwares. We have been doing this for 7 months now, and I have seen 3 different firmwares released, and EVERYTIME we get leaks people want to run the latest firmware and have issues and want help because now they can't easily get back to the way their phone was before.
YOU WERE WARNED by all of the devs in here.
Let this be a lesson to EVERYONE else in the Atrix2 forum.
Now, I know these issues don't seem so bad, but there may be more things to uncover yet, that are not working correctly.
To all Atrix2 users who read this: DO NOT INSTALL THESE LEAKS!!!!
Us devs will figure out how to get the ICS updates to the correct phones with (hopefully) some fixes to the issues BEFORE they are released to the public, but you have to give us time to do so.
I will say this now:
If you PM me because you did this, or if you post asking for help because you did this, you will end up on my ignore list!
These leaks are not supposed to be run by end users, yeah you!!!

jimbridgman said:
These are perfect examples of why you should NOT run the leaked firmwares. We have been doing this for 7 months now, and I have seen 3 different firmwares released, and EVERYTIME we get leaks people want to run the latest firmware and have issues and want help because now they can't easily get back to the way their phone was before.
YOU WERE WARNED by all of the devs in here.
Let this be a lesson to EVERYONE else in the Atrix2 forum.
Now, I know these issues don't seem so bad, but there may be more things to uncover yet, that are not working correctly.
To all Atrix2 users who read this: DO NOT INSTALL THESE LEAKS!!!!
Us devs will figure out how to get the ICS updates to the correct phones with (hopefully) some fixes to the issues BEFORE they are released to the public, but you have to give us time to do so.
I will say this now:
If you PM me because you did this, or if you post asking for help because you did this, you will end up on my ignore list!
These leaks are not supposed to be run by end users, yeah you!!!
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hey , don't be so angry...
To be honest , I think this leak is too far better than the 2.3.5/2.3.6 roms.
I have never got any problems of the Class 10 SD card problems now, which is the most important thing.
I seldom play games and I think that's exceptional one.
I'm not asking for help for this issue but I think sharing the problems will make benefits for all of whom may/had/wanna try the rom. Thanks for your very kind comment to all of us.
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socialx said:
hey , don't be so angry...
To be honest , I think this leak is too far better than the 2.3.5/2.3.6 roms.
I have never got any problems of the Class 10 SD card problems now, which is the most important thing.
I seldom play games and I think that's exceptional one.
I'm not asking for help for this issue but I think sharing the problems will make benefits for all of whom may/had/wanna try the rom. Thanks for your very kind comment to all of us.
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Lol, yeah you were just reporting the issue which is good. No where in there did you ask for help.on it. Thanks for the update.
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Lol, yeah you were just reporting the issue which is good. No where in there did you ask for help.on it. Thanks for the update.
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To be honest (again) , I had said/answered something isn't working in the leaked ICS and a good guy gave me the solution. Isn't that?
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socialx said:
hey , don't be so angry...
To be honest , I think this leak is too far better than the 2.3.5/2.3.6 roms.
I have never got any problems of the Class 10 SD card problems now, which is the most important thing.
I seldom play games and I think that's exceptional one.
I'm not asking for help for this issue but I think sharing the problems will make benefits for all of whom may/had/wanna try the rom. Thanks for your very kind comment to all of us.
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I am not angry, I also NEVER once said that YOU asked for help.
What I am doing is trying to get everyone to understand something here. Myself and the other devs that have been here for a while are getting very tired of seeing that someone had an issue, that they caused themselves because they installed an update that they were not supposed to, from cheesecake. I am trying to get everyone to listen to reason here, and your post about issues that YOU find from installing an unsupported update, was a perfect example to use.
You have to understand that us devs do this in our free time, and we give you all 100% free support. You tell me where else you get that from.
So We have to keep everyone here doing their thing with their phones, and it seems that the ONLY thing most people listen to anymore is a little kick in the pants.
If you took some offense to my post, well then you prolly deserve some of that...
My job as a dev in here, is keep everyone from screwing up their phones.
Just wait till I am not here anymore, or that I do decide to ignore your posts, or PMs...
I know EVERYONE is VERY excited about ICS, but come on guys it will be a month or less before the official stable release comes out.

jimbridgman said:
I am not angry, I also NEVER once said that YOU asked for help.
What I am doing is trying to get everyone to understand something here. Myself and the other devs that have been here for a while are getting very tired of seeing that someone had an issue, that they caused themselves because they installed an update that they were not supposed to, from cheesecake. I am trying to get everyone to listen to reason here, and your post about issues that YOU find from installing an unsupported update, was a perfect example to use.
You have to understand that us devs do this in our free time, and we give you all 100% free support. You tell me where else you get that from.
So We have to keep everyone here doing their thing with their phones, and it seems that the ONLY most people listen anymore is with a little kick in the pants.
If you took some offense to my post, well then you prolly deserve some of that...
My job as a dev in here, is keep everyone from screwing up their phones.
Just wait till I am not here anymore, or that I do decide to ignore your posts, or PMs...
I know EVERYONE is VERY excited about ICS, but come on guys it will be a month or less before the official stable release comes out.
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It's ok. I can't agree you more. We get all of you devs free supports and all the works are great. Someone did ask for help because of the leaked roms and some others issues/threads/posts/questions you don't want to hear/see/read. I'm sorry for all of the impolite /bad feeling you feel.
Therefore, I won't talk about anything about the leaked roms in this sections from now on. If you want to , you may delete those old post which you think it may lead the problems. For the development section, if there is a mircale I found something it may help , I will translate/forward it as before.
and believe me , sticking a red color thread which prohibits something may help. It's not about the freedom of speech. Cheers.
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socialx said:
It's ok. I can't agree you more. We get all of you devs free supports and all the works are great. Someone did ask for help because of the leaked roms and some others issues/threads/posts/questions you don't want to hear/see/read. I'm sorry for all of the impolite /bad feeling you feel.
Therefore, I won't talk about anything about the leaked roms in this sections from now on. If you want to , you may delete those old post which you think it may lead the problems. For the development section, if there is a mircale I found something it may help , I will translate/forward it as before.
and believe me , sticking a red color thread which prohibits something may help. It's not about the freedom of speech. Cheers.
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I think you completely misunderstand me here.... I am just trying to keep others from doing something that they can not recover from (not everyone knows how to put their phone into fastboot and apply the fxz). You should post these things, and it is good that YOU put this here....
I am just trying to keep other users safe from themselves so to speak.
ICS will be here soon enough. I was just using your post with pre-release issues, as an example to others, and again the other people in this forum only seem to listen if is in DARK RED, and says WARNING WILL ROBINSON!!.
I have absolutely no hard feelings about you or anything in this place. I am just trying to keep everyone focused on what they should be focused on.

socialx said:
Let me share some first :
1. I just found that the rom can't run NFS Shift smoothly, at least in the racing part but not in the menu part.
2. I can connect my home wifi with 72Mbps (it reports...) but no data transfer after few seconds.... I'm still checking if there is a fxxxxxx guy using wifikill targeted on mine phone...
My phone is ME865 using the China leaked rom.
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dont know why u r getting those issues but trust me i didnt got any wifi or any kind of problem not even a single fc and all the game run very smooth even nova 3
maybe u should try wiping data and cache
i have only one problem ram, ICS eat more ram compare to gb so ram goes down very quickly esp. while using browser,

socialx said:
Let me share some first :
1. I just found that the rom can't run NFS Shift smoothly, at least in the racing part but not in the menu part.
2. I can connect my home wifi with 72Mbps (it reports...) but no data transfer after few seconds.... I'm still checking if there is a fxxxxxx guy using wifikill targeted on mine phone...
My phone is ME865 using the China leaked rom.
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Wait a second.... you're telling me you're running the China leaked ROM on your AT&T phone?
I wouldn't mess with that mate.
Running a ROM that wasn't designed for you phone just seems like an accident/brick waiting to happen. Good luck though!

[Q] Any way to turn this into a tablet with WiFi only?

This was my wifes POS Phone till I upgraded her to a SGSIII for Christmas. Now I have a device that would be perfect for my daughter if it weren't for the pesky phone option and Sprint bloatware. Are there any roms available that strip this phone to bare bones with no radios except WiFi? Haven't been able to find any and it might not be on the top of the Dev's todo list so if anyone is up to a ROM that will make this device at least usable because as a phone it SUCKS, but for a kiddo it would be a great toy with some of the game apps. Thanks in advance, and if I missed a ROM that does exactly what I'm asking in the mountains of pages in the Dev forum, please use only a small flame as I'm old and have a cold LOL.

A tip: when asking for help you might want to avoid talking trash about a device we users enjoy using.
My advice, 'the device sucks' and is a 'pos' so why bother doing anything with it. Go buy yourself, your kid or whoever an ipod and move on.

Lol why should we help you? One of the most stupid threads here
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Man, what a way to request something.
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lol
Uhh why not just turn mobile networks off n wifi on. And take the time to root your pos so u can delete the bloat.

trsix said:
Uhh why not just turn mobile networks off n wifi on. And take the time to root your pos so u can delete the bloat.
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What he said. Yeah it wouldn't be a pos if it was rooted.. It's a little beast!

Sound like a troll
[.-.]

Best investment I've made with android was this device.
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turkbot said:
Sound like a troll
[.-.]
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Lol, I thought the same.
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Just hate HTC. Have since the TP2. No appologies for that when they make life just such a pain in the ass. Even cringed when the wife chose it but cest la vie. I'm not going against the boss. Maybe I'm just stupid but I've tried rooting but its a 2.3.4 and every option this thread gives me doesn't work for some reason or another. ShiftRR doesn't run at all saying ADB is at fault but I can ADB into the whole phone myself no problems, ShiftySonOfA almost works but creates a boot loop that thankfully is repaired by doing an --undo, Quickroot seems to work but then unroots the phone just as soon as it reboots. Trying to do it manually using the info on here gives me exactly the same boot loop as the ShiftySonOfA.BAT file does and trying to update from SD using a PG06img.zip I got from a rootkit fails. I can't help it if I'm a Samsung fan. Their goal in life isn't making their users stress out over their phones by daring to think they can do better than they can. If its too much to ask that my RAM isn't more than half full just with OS and bloatware because this phone refuses to root then so be it but even if its miles below my Nexus it's still MILES above any iPoo device.

Then throw it out and go buy a portable media player, or better yet send it to a dev who would put it to use and go buy some type of portable media player.
Edit: and to anyone who actually wants to try and help this guy, does this really seem like a person we need to deal with in our little speedy community in the future?

BigSplit said:
Then throw it out and go buy a portable media player, or better yet send it to a dev who would put it to use and go buy some type of portable media player.
Edit: and to anyone who actually wants to try and help this guy, does this really seem like a person we need to deal with in our little speedy community in the future?
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ROFL Speedy community. Half of you are talking about swapping out to Photons and the other half are moving to One X's. yes I've read an awful lot before posting a question. Guess I'll be getting absolutely no help here. Not that there is much help available for this device when all the links are broken and the ones that are working, don't work for their intended purpose. Feel free to delete the thread MOD I'll stay where I'm welcome, in the Samsung sections.

Happy to see you leave, please don't come again.
Edit: and you couldn't have read to much or you would have been able to root it. Well then again, you were calling your recovery touchwiz in another thread soooo... I'm guessing you have some trouble grasping things at times.

revwolf said:
Just hate HTC. Have since the TP2. No appologies for that when they make life just such a pain in the ass. Even cringed when the wife chose it but cest la vie. I'm not going against the boss. Maybe I'm just stupid but I've tried rooting but its a 2.3.4 and every option this thread gives me doesn't work for some reason or another. ShiftRR doesn't run at all saying ADB is at fault but I can ADB into the whole phone myself no problems, ShiftySonOfA almost works but creates a boot loop that thankfully is repaired by doing an --undo, Quickroot seems to work but then unroots the phone just as soon as it reboots. Trying to do it manually using the info on here gives me exactly the same boot loop as the ShiftySonOfA.BAT file does and trying to update from SD using a PG06img.zip I got from a rootkit fails. I can't help it if I'm a Samsung fan. Their goal in life isn't making their users stress out over their phones by daring to think they can do better than they can. If its too much to ask that my RAM isn't more than half full just with OS and bloatware because this phone refuses to root then so be it but even if its miles below my Nexus it's still MILES above any iPoo device.
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Well its probably been a while since you researched how to root, because if you done that more recently or even looked at my sig, you would have already rooted that shift. I posted it here and in 3 other well-known forums so its hard to believe that you haven't found it.

revwolf said:
Just hate HTC. Have since the TP2. No appologies for that when they make life just such a pain in the ass. Even cringed when the wife chose it but cest la vie. I'm not going against the boss. Maybe I'm just stupid but I've tried rooting but its a 2.3.4 and every option this thread gives me doesn't work for some reason or another. ShiftRR doesn't run at all saying ADB is at fault but I can ADB into the whole phone myself no problems, ShiftySonOfA almost works but creates a boot loop that thankfully is repaired by doing an --undo, Quickroot seems to work but then unroots the phone just as soon as it reboots. Trying to do it manually using the info on here gives me exactly the same boot loop as the ShiftySonOfA.BAT file does and trying to update from SD using a PG06img.zip I got from a rootkit fails. I can't help it if I'm a Samsung fan. Their goal in life isn't making their users stress out over their phones by daring to think they can do better than they can. If its too much to ask that my RAM isn't more than half full just with OS and bloatware because this phone refuses to root then so be it but even if its miles below my Nexus it's still MILES above any iPoo device.
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I agree only with the last 5 words.

See?

BigSplit said:
Happy to see you leave, please don't come again.
Edit: and you couldn't have read to much or you would have been able to root it. Well then again, you were calling your recovery touchwiz in another thread soooo... I'm guessing you have some trouble grasping things at times.
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Lol I just read that. Dudes a dumbass from just scanning what he post
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revwolf said:
ROFL Speedy community. Half of you are talking about swapping out to Photons and the other half are moving to One X's. yes I've read an awful lot before posting a question. Guess I'll be getting absolutely no help here. Not that there is much help available for this device when all the links are broken and the ones that are working, don't work for their intended purpose. Feel free to delete the thread MOD I'll stay where I'm welcome, in the Samsung sections.
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Samsung sections?! Have fun! I don't see how you'd be welcome there either. Also I hope you enjoy your screen burn in Galaxy Nexus - http://cdn1.sbnation.com/imported_assets/895626/4731866441_f37348315f.jpg . Ugh Buh Bye

CNexus said:
Well its probably been a while since you researched how to root, because if you done that more recently or even looked at my sig, you would have already rooted that shift. I posted it here and in 3 other well-known forums so its hard to believe that you haven't found it.
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Right. On just got my replacement shift today and am using that when i get home. To the OP, take a breath, and ask nicely. I'm sure that will actually get you some help
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junpei1337 said:
Right. On just got my replacement shift today and am using that when i get home. To the OP, take a breath, and ask nicely. I'm sure that will actually get you some help
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Well it seems like his kind nature when asking questions is his thing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1903135
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Lag? Crashes? Problems? Call SAMSUNG to report it!

Serously folks, we need to get their attention on the issues the S4 has. "But my device doesn't lag," well you're just not noticing it then because the majority are reporting lag. We need them to take note of this and push a software update out ASAP, or people will be returning their phones.
Call them!!! 1-888-987-4357!!!

MattMJB0188 said:
Serously folks, we need to get their attention on the issues the S4 has. "But my device doesn't lag," well you're just not noticing it then because the majority are reporting lag. We need them to take note of this and push a software update out ASAP, or people will be returning their phones.
Call them!!! 1-888-987-4357!!!
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Make sure to note the locked bootloader as well. :laugh:

Especially because this is the phone that'll get iCrap users over, dont want them to get a bad taste of android and never come back, because that isn't android..
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MattMJB0188 said:
Serously folks, we need to get their attention on the issues the S4 has. "But my device doesn't lag," well you're just not noticing it then because the majority are reporting lag. We need them to take note of this and push a software update out ASAP, or people will be returning their phones.
Call them!!! 1-888-987-4357!!!
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I'll call them and thank them for making my phone be unique and lag free! Everything I own is very quick so I think I would notice any lag. My gs4 is all around awesome
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Bataga said:
I'll call them and thank them for making my phone be unique and lag free! Everything I own is very quick so I think I would notice any lag. My gs4 is all around awesome
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You have it, you just don't see it. I bet you anything if I used your phone I'd notice it in a second.

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You have it, you just don't see it. I bet you anything if I used your phone I'd notice it in a second.
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Wrong . Used my cousins s4 and instantly noticed lag like crazy. On my s4 its very fluid. Compared it to my brothers galaxy nexus and is very fluid. No lag on my end.

Another lag thread where people say they have lag and other people say they don't..
Just what we needed... I think there are 10 different lag threads now..

I have no lag on mine, battery life is great. I played with my friends S4 and unlocking the phone stalled a bit, the transitions werent smooth but mine is smooth as butter

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Make sure to note the locked bootloader as well. :laugh:
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+1
This is the real issue!

LeKtRiCzzz said:
I have no lag on mine, battery life is great. I played with my friends S4 and unlocking the phone stalled a bit, the transitions werent smooth but mine is smooth as butter
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Lag is subjective. Those not experiencing it don't seem to get that.

MattMJB0188 said:
Lag is subjective. Those not experiencing it don't seem to get that.
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Kind of amusing you even say lag is subjective. Just like when you told someone who said they have no lag they do, but they just don't know it. If someone is happy with their phone and doesn't feel like they have lag, why do you care?
I have no lag on my S4 and I know it, that's my opinion. I have played with another S4 that did lag.

I dont see how lag can be subjective either you it have or you dont

blkhwkz said:
Kind of amusing you even say lag is subjective. Just like when you told someone who said they have no lag they do, but they just don't know it. If someone is happy with their phone and doesn't feel like they have lag, why do you care?
I have no lag on my S4 and I know it, that's my opinion. I have played with another S4 that did lag.
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The kind of lag I am talking about I have seen in every review video. I am sure you got a magical device that doesn't have any.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say the existing lag is no different from any other Android phone I have owned recently (gs3, nexus4, note 2). Always a frame drop here and there. No biggie. I think the next update will address some of it. I'm not too worried. I am loving the phone. I don't think it's so bad that it would deter any iPhone converts, but in don't really care either way.
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MattMJB0188 said:
The kind of lag I am talking about I have seen in every review video. I am sure you got a magical device that doesn't have any.
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Now you are just acting like a butthurt iOS user.

raqball said:
Another lag thread where people say they have lag and other people say they don't..
Just what we needed... I think there are 10 different lag threads now..
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Right a merge would be nice.
...no lag here....
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Op will make 3rd thread about Samsung response and for others to post theirs.

MattMJB0188 said:
The kind of lag I am talking about I have seen in every review video. I am sure you got a magical device that doesn't have any.
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And I am sure your just jealous your device isn't magical

Hah I called them just to complain about the bootloader being locked (I have no lag)... first woman did not know, transferred me to an escalated support staff member.
He stated that the bootloader was locked at the request of at&t and that it would be up to them to provide me a method to unlock it. When I mentioned that HTC also locks their bootloaders but provides a way to unlock them via htcdev he said that they would not be doing this at the request of the carrier.
Nothing that we didn't already know, but I now have a sense of just how little Samsung really cares about the developer community. They don't give a **** about us, and it doesn't seem like that is going to change. Bottom line: get used to it. I really like this phone but my conversation with them has seriously made me question if I will ever buy one of their phones again.
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Aight...In perspective... I have a little lag. It's not a 2 second lag freeze, but maybe a .5 sec or a sec. However, for a quad core 1.9 ghz is unacceptable. I'm in since the Captivate, SG2, SG3 and this... At first I didn't think much of it, but when I compare it to my wife's Iphone 5...the transition between apps is not what is suppose to be: "Superior grade".
The phone is very nice. So much people jumping to Android from Iphone in the last 3 quarters... the overturn is incredible... Samsung, you were doing so well, don't fu... this up!