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[Q] For as many people leaving this device

Ill be the only one left. Hell the development came to a halt. And this gingerbread rumor crap is out of hand...
Might be best to leave now before its too late...this place is depressing...

smashpunks said:
Ill be the only one left. Hell the development came to a halt. And this gingerbread rumor crap is out of hand...
Might be best to leave now before its too late...this place is depressing...
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bro i was seriously thinking what the hell is up with all the "goodbye g2x here i come sensation" **** why make a thread about it! just do it we dont care i mean i feel for the people that have problems with there g2x but if your going to get a sensation good luck and we will see u later!...and man as far as gingerbread goes yea it sux we gotta wait this long but these rumors are out of hand nobody knows anything so what we gota do is just wait it out

I concur. In my opinion there is less development for the G2x then there was for the Vibrant. Who knows, maybe because a new phone is rolling out every few months.
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**** im on eb1.05 froyo+faux oc/uv kernel @1.1, zero bloatware, xperia theme, ZERO reboots, ZERO freezes, what the hell I need gb for!
G2X

Honestly, I'm pretty happy with my G2x and CM7. Also played with the Sensation today, and it didn't really impress me. Sure, Sense 3.0 is nice and all, but I don't see what the hype is about.
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Bronk93 said:
I concur. In my opinion there is less development for the G2x then there was for the Vibrant. Who knows, maybe because a new phone is rolling out every few months.
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Exactly vibrant was way ahead of this...half the roms we got now haven't been updated in a grip.
I'm not having issues like others but still I bet the sensation after 2 months even with locked boot loaders have more development than this...
End of this month is all I'm giving this, then looks like I'm doing the same as everyone else...get the lead buggy device already running what were waiting for...

C0dy said:
Honestly, I'm pretty happy with my G2x and CM7. Also played with the Sensation today, and it didn't really impress me. Sure, Sense 3.0 is nice and all, but I don't see what the hype is about.
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I don't either,i hated it, but it obviously don't have reboots, bleed, etc. just minor issues....
Half the g2x owners left..

fcisco13 said:
**** im on eb1.05 froyo+faux oc/uv kernel @1.1, zero bloatware, xperia theme, ZERO reboots, ZERO freezes, what the hell I need gb for!
G2X
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dude ebfroyo 1.0.5 looks like gingerbread and its sick quick and u have stock camera great rom rite there that will hold me off till gingerbread comes out if it ever does lol

@smashpunks yo bro u should give ebfroyo 1.0.5 i think u will like it

sarni84 said:
@smashpunks yo bro u should give ebfroyo 1.0.5 i think u will like it
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Ill have to check it out.. Development section?

smashpunks said:
I don't either,i hated it, but it obviously don't have reboots, bleed, etc. just minor issues....
Half the g2x owners left..
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Actually I saw posts on the T-Mobile forums where some people are having lock ups now where they have to remove the battery to get the phone to become responsive again. I haven't heard anything about screen bleed but there are a lot of people complaining about having washed out screens. There's a whole slew of other problems starting to be reported with the Sensation as well. It almost sounds exactly like the same pattern that happened with the G2x right after launch. I'm starting to wonder if something with the T-Mobile bloatware is what's causing these phones to have problems.

smashpunks said:
I don't either,i hated it, but it obviously don't have reboots, bleed, etc. just minor issues....
Half the g2x owners left..
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How you know half have left? By reading the threads here and then applying the 1/2 left theory, that means TMO sold like 20 devices.
Its dead here because everyone is waiting on the update. Everything else is like dead horse...how do i fix a reboot...wait on you know what. My battery overheats...wait for you know what. My screen bleeds....well so do people hit by cars, but you know what will fix that.
who would put the dev time right now into a new rom when a update is expected "by summer".
My son just called me and told me he's going to buy a sensation. I asked him,, does it have you know what on it? He said..."huh". So much for the really important things in this world.

LordIzod said:
Actually I saw posts on the T-Mobile forums where some people are having lock ups now where they have to remove the battery to get the phone to become responsive again. There's a whole slew of other problems starting to be reported with the Sensation as well. It almost sounds exactly like the same pattern that happened with the G2x right after launch. I'm starting to wonder if something with the T-Mobile bloatware is what's causing these phones to have problems.
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One of the cool things about my job, is I get to break things. Up until wp7, tearing apart a ROm and finding out what causes problems was an easy thing to do. With the T-Mobile HD2, simply removing the bloatware made that device a better device. It was fun to sit and demonstrate a problem, flash a clean build, and watch the faces of the people around the table as the problem no longer appeared. I dated a TMO dev for a while...it didn't last.
Bloatware iis the #1 cause of problems, followed by drivers. I'd say problamatic apps would be 3rd. The primary reason for rooting is to remove bloatware...IMO.

smashpunks said:
Exactly vibrant was way ahead of this...half the roms we got now haven't been updated in a grip.
I'm not having issues like others but still I bet the sensation after 2 months even with locked boot loaders have more development than this...
End of this month is all I'm giving this, then looks like I'm doing the same as everyone else...get the lead buggy device already running what were waiting for...
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At three months in the Vibrant wasn't "way ahead of this"...even with the relatively easy porting from other Galaxy S devices. We have good development for a three month old phone. With more devs showing interest daily...hell development is the reason I chose this phone. the slight pause you are detecting is probably the devs waiting for stable drivers from the Gingerbread drop.
But if you want to go...go..

LordIzod said:
Actually I saw posts on the T-Mobile forums where some people are having lock ups now where they have to remove the battery to get the phone to become responsive again. I haven't heard anything about screen bleed but there are a lot of people complaining about having washed out screens. There's a whole slew of other problems starting to be reported with the Sensation as well. It almost sounds exactly like the same pattern that happened with the G2x right after launch. I'm starting to wonder if something with the T-Mobile bloatware is what's causing these phones to have problems.
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I think its t-mobile's fault. until they adopt a new quality over quantity attitude and stop letting manufacturers have a turf battle with each other for the apple's direct competion crown we might get better phones. better as in tried and tested not the numbers war similar to digital camera manufacturers five years ago before ppl knew better. Better phones with even better support as far as updates are concerned.
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Daffydukc said:
I think its t-mobile's fault. until they adopt a new quality over quantity attitude and stop letting manufacturers have a turf battle with each other for the apple's direct competion crown we might get better phones. better as in tried and tested not the numbers war similar to digital camera manufacturers five years ago before ppl knew better. Better phones with even better support as far as updates are concerned.
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Ka-Ching. Its all about the quality control. T-Mobile has usually done pretty good, but has been fading a little bit recently.

I'm happy with my phone. I don't realize half of the problems till I read xda leaving post. Go ahead and read Acer iconia thread you will see the same type of post there also. So I will still be here no doubt.
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hazard99 said:
I'm happy with my phone. I don't realize half of the problems till I read xda leaving post. Go ahead and read Acer iconia thread you will see the same type of post there also. So I will still be here no doubt.
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Go ahead and read (insert new phone) thread you will see the same type of post there also. I'm staying too.

LordIzod said:
Actually I saw posts on the T-Mobile forums where some people are having lock ups now where they have to remove the battery to get the phone to become responsive again. I haven't heard anything about screen bleed but there are a lot of people complaining about having washed out screens. There's a whole slew of other problems starting to be reported with the Sensation as well. It almost sounds exactly like the same pattern that happened with the G2x right after launch. I'm starting to wonder if something with the T-Mobile bloatware is what's causing these phones to have problems.
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I think you hit the nail on the head. We all know their WiFi Calling and My Account apps eat up data and kill the battery like no other.
I removed those the minute I got root and didn't have any further issues. I made a thread with all the crap Tmo put in there... even that scary LogMeIn remote desktop crap that they (use for support). Why would I want ANY one displaying up my phone on their screen other then me?
I also think that once they re-release the G2x with Gingerbread, the forums will pick back up. Remember you can't buy this phone right now. Most of the initial supporters are jumpers (they buy EVERY new phone that comes out) plus some that had issues and swapped.
You know thats why Tmo isn't selling the Froyo G2x anymore (waiting for GB). I think its a strong move because most companies just want the $$ and would sell a junk item to anyone. Ceasing the orders will speed up the GB update process (so they can continue making $$).

Oh and let me say HHHHHAAAAEL No im not getting a sensation. I think its a piece of crap. Stop the hate G2x threads.
Sorry about my mishap earlier on this thread, I cant leave this beast of a device.
Especially if Galaxy On Fire 2 comes out this month and they dont post pone it for a 3rd time

Any Lag?

I'd like to know if there is any noticeable lag on Sense 4.0? I have read that there is some lag with HTC's own apps like HTC Watch. I would like to know how smooth the stock browser is on the AT&T version. I have also read that while charging the entire phone lags really bad? Anyone care to confirm or deny that?

The one i used at the store yesterday was plugged in, seemed lag free to me. I'm pretty particular about that, and was pleased at how smooth it felt.

I also played with the one at the store while it was charging. It was the only phone I've ever seen that didn't lag at all unmodified. Not sure who told you it lagged...
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Yes the phone is lag free for me. Have ran into 0 issues.
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Not sure who told you it lagged...
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That's simple, jealous fanboys of other companies. Especially the fruity ones.

I noted a bunch of lag in my review, actually. The launcher is lag-tastic. If it goes out of memory, when you open the app drawer it'll take 1-2 seconds. That's ridiculous when you think of the raw hardware power in this phone. My conclusion: HTC sucks at creating apps, stick with custom launchers.

kennethpenn said:
I noted a bunch of lag in my review, actually. The launcher is lag-tastic. If it goes out of memory, when you open the app drawer it'll take 1-2 seconds. That's ridiculous when you think of the raw hardware power in this phone. My conclusion: HTC sucks at creating apps, stick with custom launchers.
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Not many people agree with you then. Maybe you had a defective unit or had something unusual running?

kennethpenn said:
I noted a bunch of lag in my review, actually. The launcher is lag-tastic. If it goes out of memory, when you open the app drawer it'll take 1-2 seconds. That's ridiculous when you think of the raw hardware power in this phone. My conclusion: HTC sucks at creating apps, stick with custom launchers.
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I definitely heard about some of that with the international version but to my knowledge there was an update that remedied that. The S4 version at the AT&T store where I used it did not have any launcher lag at all.

Absolutely there is lag. There is lag in every android device I've ever used.
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eallan said:
Absolutely there is lag. There is lag in every android device I've ever used.
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care to elaborate?

After using the iPhone 4S for 6 months I can honestly say I experienced lag quite a few times. Guess there will be lag on every phone. Glad to see though that Sense 4 is quite polished.

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Not many people agree with you then. Maybe you had a defective unit or had something unusual running?
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Maroon Mushroom said:
I definitely heard about some of that with the international version but to my knowledge there was an update that remedied that. The S4 version at the AT&T store where I used it did not have any launcher lag at all.
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I will say that I played with an in-store unit today and it felt lagless. It's entirely possible that it was just my review unit. I may film a video showing off the lag on my unit so you guys can see. If anyone's interested in that, let me know.

kennethpenn said:
I will say that I played with an in-store unit today and it felt lagless. It's entirely possible that it was just my review unit. I may film a video showing off the lag on my unit so you guys can see. If anyone's interested in that, let me know.
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I wanna see
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Mine is unbelievably lagless. Never had a phone respond like this one. Even the face unlock is nearly instantaneous. If it's already pointing the right direction, face unlock takes about 1/10 of a second extra to identify me and go to the launcher.
Hurts me to even think this, but I'd keep it even without an unlocked bootloader. I still need root though.
Edit: Stabilizes at about 33c while playing Gun Bros. Ambient is cool at about 15c.

Definitely is more lag than an iPhone 4s. This is my first android so I'm hoping going with a stock os will be even better. Though I must say, I still love the one x.
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all the talk about lag?

When I see this i guess either mine is fine or I dont know what they are looking at . Some one could let me know what the lag is so I can check mine.

I get no lag at all
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Yay!!!! Another lag/no lag thread!!!!!!!!!!!
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Bigtjmc said:
When I see this i guess either mine is fine or I dont know what they are looking at . Some one could let me know what the lag is so I can check mine.
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Its everywhere.... Where do I start? there is a delay unlocking the phone once your finger swipes, opening apps is slow, pressing home button to return to home screen is delayed (after disabling the home button in svoice), pulling the notification window down randomly stutters. Most of these are random and inconsistant, but 1 that I have found is ALWAYS an issue is in the Samsung Browser. Do this to see the lag. at the top there is the window notification in the broswer that shows how many open windows there are. Press it and see how long it takes to display the other windows.
The lag is everywhere... Had I not returned my HTC One to get this I would return it in a second, but they wont accept a second return now, so im stuck with a crap phone....

Im sorry that everyone is having these issues but mine seems fine and if it is lagging then maybe im not a super user and to me it dont seem to be a problem , my only issue is the keypad I keep hitting the numbers when typing and letters when spacing . And the windows tab opens pretty quick to me bout .9 of a second and it opens.

Bigtjmc said:
Im sorry that everyone is having these issues but mine seems fine and if it is lagging then maybe im not a super user and to me it dont seem to be a problem , my only issue is the keypad I keep hitting the numbers when typing and letters when spacing . And the windows tab opens pretty quick to me bout .9 of a second and it opens.
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use a different browser and see how fast it is. Thats the problem .9 seconds is lag, I guess were use to different speeds. If you are coming from a craptastic phone that had alot of lag you wont notice it as much as someone who is use to a fast phone like a Nexus 4 or HTC One. Those phones are blazing, and honestly my old Note 2 was faster than this S4.

tdesbien31 said:
Its everywhere.... Where do I start? there is a delay unlocking the phone once your finger swipes, opening apps is slow, pressing home button to return to home screen is delayed (after disabling the home button in svoice), pulling the notification window down randomly stutters. Most of these are random and inconsistant, but 1 that I have found is ALWAYS an issue is in the Samsung Browser. Do this to see the lag. at the top there is the window notification in the broswer that shows how many open windows there are. Press it and see how long it takes to display the other windows.
The lag is everywhere... Had I not returned my HTC One to get this I would return it in a second, but they wont accept a second return now, so im stuck with a crap phone....
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After playing a bit with the one I do agree that it is quite a bit snappier however something about it just seemed boring. As for the lock screen I do agree and I was able to help the issue a bit by switching to the ripple effect apposed to light under lockscreen effect. Also switching to thumb keyboard greatly improved speed there. However after using it for a few days the little bit of lag either gotten better or I just notice less.

Might be just that , ive been on a htc vivid since November 2011 and it got to be a pain in the arse to use. Hopefully they will have something that will fix it soon.

No lag here, but I've said that already.
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I just came from an iPhone 5 and the GS4 is already back in the box. I used it for one day and it was pretty bad. I guess if I had used it longer I might have gotten used to the slowness of it but the fact that SVoice and Google Voice search didn't work over bluetooth in my car like Siri and Google do on my iPhone made me return it.

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I just came from an iPhone 5 and the GS4 is already back in the box. I used it for one day and it was pretty bad. I guess if I had used it longer I might have gotten used to the slowness of it but the fact that SVoice and Google Voice search didn't work over bluetooth in my car like Siri and Google do on my iPhone made me return it.
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Blue tooth voice search works for me flawlessly
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All this talk about lag is kinda chasing me away, of my dream of getting gs4, you guys think I'd be better off with the note 2?
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jrollercoasters said:
All this talk about lag is kinda chasing me away, of my dream of getting gs4, you guys think I'd be better off with the note 2?
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Yes the Note 2 is MUCH and I mean MUCH smoother right out of the box...
I am seriously considering trading my S4 for a Nexus 4 or a Note 2...
This phone may get better in time but that time is NOT now..

Give Samsung time to address it....geez, guys!

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Give Samsung time to address it....geez, guys!
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Samsung and AT&T have a long track record of taking months upon months to address issues via a software fix..

Its just the trolls with the "lag". Guess they need something to post about.

raqball said:
Samsung and AT&T have a long track record of taking months upon months to address issues via a software fix..
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Root it in the mean time, install tibackup and start removing crap. Clearly the phone is loaded with only 8 or 9gb free on a 16gb device.

raqball said:
Yes the Note 2 is MUCH and I mean MUCH smoother right out of the box...
I am seriously considering trading my S4 for a Nexus 4 or a Note 2...
This phone may get better in time but that time is NOT now..
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with already having root, and the bootloader unlock already verified to be coming soon, i think you would be doing yourself wrong to get rid of your gs4. since we now know that custom roms will be on their way. and since we know that custom roms do perform better than stock roms.

Anyone who says their S 4 doesn't lag is either lying, blind, or seriously has never used a lag free phone. I don't see how its going to be fixed either since its mostly due the the extraordinary amount of bloat in this version of Touchwiz with a tone of useless "features" that are also responsible for taking up so much memory space. I have an iPhone 5 which is lag free like all iPhones ever and a Note 2 which has a minor amount of lag in a few places. The shoddy cheap plastic construction, bloat, and minimal memory space is an insult to Samsung customers. At least the buttons are better but Samsung is out of control everywhere else. Ugh. They msut really think their customers will put up with anything they deign to slop down to them.

I did notice a tad bit of lag here and there and to me the 3 main contributions to lag in any s4 are this
1- stock browser ie. Keyboard lag
2-stock launcher, I use go ex
3-att crap bloat, I've deleted not disabled it all
My s4 is f'in fast as hell with no lag after addressing those three items
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Need some insights..

I want to ask, I've been planning to buy N5 for quite some time. For people who own the device for quite some time now, how is it fairing especially after 4.4.2 update? Thanks for your insights.

ickoicko said:
I want to ask, I've been planning to buy N5 for quite some time. For people who own the device for quite some time now, how is it fairing especially after 4.4.2 update? Thanks for your insights.
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You're going to get a different answer from everyone who responds. I'm really happy with it for the most part, except that Google + and Chrome will randomly start running really aggressively in the background and killing my battery. It doesn't happen often, and a reboot seems to fix it, but it's definitely a problem I've noticed.

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You're going to get a different answer from everyone who responds. I'm really happy with it for the most part, except that Google + and Chrome will randomly start running really aggressively in the background and killing my battery. It doesn't happen often, and a reboot seems to fix it, but it's definitely a problem I've noticed.
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Yeah, at least get a birds' eye view of owners who has experience. Did your problem occur after 4.4.2 update? and is it on a custom rom? I don't wanna venture into another fiasco wherein I didn't do my research properly and get a lot of problems with the phone. At least getting some insights from other people will solidify my stand whether or not I will get it.

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Yeah, at least get a birds' eye view of owners who has experience. Did your problem occur after 4.4.2 update? and is it on a custom rom? I don't wanna venture into another fiasco wherein I didn't do my research properly and get a lot of problems with the phone. At least getting some insights from other people will solidify my stand whether or not I will get it.
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I've only noticed it since the 4.4.2 update, and I'm just running stock rooted. Maybe it's just me though because I haven't seen anyone else mention this specific issue. In any case, it doesn't detract from my enjoyment of the phone. It's still the best device I've ever owned.

I personally think 4.4.2 ruined the battery
Team Nexus 5 sucks

^really bad? Like S3 rooted battery problem bad?

Never owned an s3 but this battery life is bad because I rely on it in my business. I literally have to carry a backup phone since the nexus 5 's battery is non removable
Team Nexus 5 sucks

They'll release a fix soon though, this problem won't be overlooked by Google by the looks of it. A lot of people are complaining on Product forums at Google.

They will but it's taking so long. I've had problems with this phone since early November

Yeah, can I get away with it by NOT installing 4.4.2 and just install 4.4.1? since 4.4.2 has problems?

I think you'll find the majority of users are happy with their N5s. I find the phone to be a superb device. I'm stock unrooted 4.4.2 and have no issues whatsoever. Battery life is perfectly acceptable, I regularly go 2 days with 3½ hours SOT a charge, obviously more SOT if using the device more heavily in a shorter time frame.
If you read available threads you should be able to find all the info you want, and you'll see dicecuber is always complaining about how the N5 sucks and how much better Galaxy devices are. Most of us still can't figure out why he kept the N5.
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Great phone, well worth the $350. No lag whatsoever and just buttery smooth. If u like pure android without laggy touch wiz or sense, then this is the phone for u. Camera is very decent, not the best but very acceptable. Battery life seems a little worse on 4.4.2 but still able to get a days use out of it. I have a screenshot of my n5 going 5 days and 6 hrs off the charger, with light usage of course.
Overall its a great phone. For that price, it can't be beat.
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Half the fun of owning a phone these days is complaining about short battery life on xda. The other half is trying to fix it. You can install all sorts of utility apps, flash custom roms and kernels, tweak this and that, and then go on one of the dedicated threads and talk all about it. It becomes like a hobby.
That being said, I agree that there will be better battery life on the next KitKat. In the meantime, get an N5 and join in the fun! The phone is awesome.
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Great phone all around. Battery consistently makes it through 2 days and 1 night with normal usage for me.

The chrome and google plus issues are quite easy to fix to be honest.. just disable them
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Well according to Gizmodo the Nexus 5 is the best android phone you can get for the price. http://gizmodo.com/every-android-phone-ranked-1468382693
According to me- the only android phone that I will ever need.

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The chrome and google plus issues are quite easy to fix to be honest.. just disable them
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That's a perfect fix if you don't use either of those apps. If you do, not so much. I'm looking into options to ditch Chrome, and after finding Dolphin to be really fast but crash-tastic as ever, Firefox seems to be working out pretty well. It might be a decent Chrome replacement.
As far as Google+, I'd rather not disable it because I use the Photos app quite a bit. If worse comes to worse, I might have to do it though.

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That's a perfect fix if you don't use either of those apps. If you do, not so much. I'm looking into options to ditch Chrome, and after finding Dolphin to be really fast but crash-tastic as ever, Firefox seems to be working out pretty well. It might be a decent Chrome replacement.
As far as Google+, I'd rather not disable it because I use the Photos app quite a bit. If worse comes to worse, I might have to do it though.
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Could you link me to the google forums thread? Google needs to fix this...fast.

aooga said:
Could you link me to the google forums thread? Google needs to fix this...fast.
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I'm not sure what you're referring to. I'm not involved in any Google forums thread.

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I'm not sure what you're referring to. I'm not involved in any Google forums thread.
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Yeah I know you're not, but I keep hearing people talk about the official google thread on http://productforums.google.com/forum/
Thanks anyway.

Returned my G3 this morning

I tried to like this phone , but could not... I was sick of the random reboots and overall sluggish feeling of this phone. I had Note 3 before this and what a mistake....Will get Note 4 in a few weeks.... It's been fun!!
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Well good luck with the note.
I never had any issues out of my g3. Battery is great, no overheating, no random reboots, no major lagging as a matter of fact no lag at all mostly a stutter here and there in the app drawer from time to time. Been using the stock lg launcher since I got the phone and everything for me has been fluid.....
Lol then I see you made a post saying the phone was fast and no problems out of it........

I've had my phone for over a month now and I've never had any random reboots or overheating. I use my phone a lot so battery is meh for Me. But I'm happy and I love it.
No matter what, I can never stay away from android for long.

Lol I know it was new and I thought it was okay at the time...as time went on.. I started to have buyers remorse...with Att&t making us use Pma charging ..That was it for me...I just like Samsung better...
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Just bought mine a lil over a week ago , hated to but got the carrier branded AT&T version. This is actually 2nd one. The first phone kept randomly shutting off during activation at the store. I like this phone. It has times where different points on the screen become unresponsive. Aggregating...it also seems to use much more of the ram than I would expect right out of the box. I use a tempered glass screen protector that may or not be causing my screen issues? As a LONG time HTC user, coming from the One, M7. I'm still getting used to something different. I do like it though. Thinking about rooting when I have time off because once boot loader is unlocked I think this device will be a beast!
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Had my phone over a month now and absolutely loving it. Running stock rooted, no greenify. I froze all the AT&T apps and none of the LG ones. I use the stock launcher and get well over 4+ hours of screen on time, no overheating, no reboots, etc. My fiancee has the phone as well and she's been averaging almost 6+ hrs of screen on time, however where she works has better signal. I travel all over the place for work and signal is spotty.

No rebooting issues here. I will admit that my m8 outperforms the g3 (except for the camera). However, the note 3 that I received last year was a total disappointment. That was random rebooting nightmare. I guess it really depends on the specific device you get. Some may receive a subpar device.

traesnaidensdad said:
Just bought mine a lil over a week ago , hated to but got the carrier branded AT&T version. This is actually 2nd one. The first phone kept randomly shutting off during activation at the store. I like this phone. It has times where different points on the screen become unresponsive. Aggregating...it also seems to use much more of the ram than I would expect right out of the box. I use a tempered glass screen protector that may or not be causing my screen issues? As a LONG time HTC user, coming from the One, M7. I'm still getting used to something different. I do like it though. Thinking about rooting when I have time off because once boot loader is unlocked I think this device will be a beast!
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Have the same issue with the screen becoming unresponsive in spots at times. I, too, have one of the tempered glass screen protectors bought from the AT&T Store. Such a coincidence, makes me wonder...

GalaxyNotesTx said:
I tried to like this phone , but could not... I was sick of the random reboots and overall sluggish feeling of this phone. I had Note 3 before this and what a mistake....Will get Note 4 in a few weeks.... It's been fun!!
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That's what I just said about my Galaxy S5. Now I can make calls from my new car, have no reboot issues and have a better signal in my home. No more unlimited data but I wasn't using exorbitant amounts of it before anyway.
Note 3 or 4 wouldn't solve my issues. Samsung's bluetooth stack is broken and they know all about it.
Get in where you fit in. Good luck.

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Have the same issue with the screen becoming unresponsive in spots at times. I, too, have one of the tempered glass screen protectors bought from the AT&T Store. Such a coincidence, makes me wonder...
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It's the screen protector i had it and i exhanged it at the store cause i was still in my 14days after i bought it, they exhanged it and i got the invisishield one that i had on a couple devices in the past, i recommend you try to exhange it if not get a cheap screen protector while you browse for a new one cause believe me you will think its the phone but it's not.
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Thinking the same thing,but not because of problems...just slow development. Thinking of going back to note3

blacknight1114 said:
Thinking the same thing,but not because of problems...just slow development. Thinking of going back to note3
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The phone just came out though... Maybe wait until they unlock bootloader or come out with special recovery for roms?

kalani91 said:
The phone just came out though... Maybe wait until they unlock bootloader or come out with special recovery for roms?
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Slow walking the bootloader unlock is gonna kill development. Seen it before. If it becomes a popular device devs will come and an unlock with it but I understand people wanting a device with options. I don't use 3rd party ROMs anymore so I don't care much.

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No rebooting issues here. I will admit that my m8 outperforms the g3 (except for the camera). However, the note 3 that I received last year was a total disappointment. That was random rebooting nightmare. I guess it really depends on the specific device you get. Some may receive a subpar device.
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Agreed. My M8 is faster too, but after a root / debloat / exposed / different launcher / no carrier IQ... not by much.
I have not experienced much lag, mainly keyboard (any) delays keeping up with typing.
I believe that we haven't seen the true potential of the g3 until this bootloader is cracked and meaningful customization is a reality.

GorillaPimp said:
Slow walking the bootloader unlock is gonna kill development. Seen it before. If it becomes a popular device devs will come and an unlock with it but I understand people wanting a device with options. I don't use 3rd party ROMs anymore so I don't care much.
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3's&7's said:
Agreed. My M8 is faster too, but after a root / debloat / exposed / different launcher / no carrier IQ... not by much.
I have not experienced much lag, mainly keyboard (any) delays keeping up with typing.
I believe that we haven't seen the true potential of the g3 until this bootloader is cracked and meaningful customization is a reality.
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This phone is great! No lag of any kind on my phone. It is rooted and running ART. No screen protector needed. All at&t bloat frozen. Phone is fast, battery life is very good. Better than I expected. The signal is also very good. I pick up LTE in my office at work where before I could only get 4g sometimes. Very happy with this phone as is.

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Slow walking the bootloader unlock is gonna kill development.
I don't use 3rd party ROMs anymore so I don't care much.
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I dunno about all that. According to development updates in the bounty thread devs working on it are confident that they can unlock it, and that it's right around the corner.
I'm all for meaningful customization.. I imagine my g3 with the latest miui on it, that would be sweet... That said, this is the first phone I've been happy with as is. Debloated, greenify, g3 tweak box and the stock rom isn't all that bad.
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I dunno about all that. According to development updates in the bounty thread devs working on it are confident that they can unlock it, and that it's right around the corner.
I'm all for meaningful customization.. I imagine my g3 with the latest miui on it, that would be sweet... That said, this is the first phone I've been happy with as is. Debloated, greenify, g3 tweak box and the stock rom isn't all that bad.
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Phone runs awesome...to bad it's with att who just downright sucks. Plus the devs have prolly already unlocked it so they are prolly waitng to get more donations because it's become a profitable business, which I don't blame them. I would if I knew how....I just build stuff.
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GalaxyNotesTx said:
I tried to like this phone , but could not... I was sick of the random reboots and overall sluggish feeling of this phone. I had Note 3 before this and what a mistake....Will get Note 4 in a few weeks.... It's been fun!!
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I have mine up for sale because of my issues with it. Had potential to be a great phone but to many buggy laggy areas

dxwilliams40 said:
No rebooting issues here. I will admit that my m8 outperforms the g3 (except for the camera). However, the note 3 that I received last year was a total disappointment. That was random rebooting nightmare. I guess it really depends on the specific device you get. Some may receive a subpar device.
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I have no idea what you're talking about! The note 3 is the best phone out right now. No reboots here at all. Ever. I had one issue on jellybean, the sleep/power button had some lag. But since I moved over to kitkat, that issue is resolved. The screen is sick! 5.7 inch, Super amoled, which is the best imo, 3gb of ram, 32gb internal storage, micro sd slot, usb 3.0. Need I say more? Lol. Now, I also love htc, is my first love. I used to hate samsung. That is until I gave the note 3 a shot. It changed my mind about samsung. And I tried the G3, but it wasn't for me. Ill stick with htc and Samsung.

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I dunno about all that. According to development updates in the bounty thread devs working on it are confident that they can unlock it, and that it's right around the corner.
I'm all for meaningful customization.. I imagine my g3 with the latest miui on it, that would be sweet... That said, this is the first phone I've been happy with as is. Debloated, greenify, g3 tweak box and the stock rom isn't all that bad.
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Cool. I hope I'm very very wrong. I know some devs have unlocks waiting but I guess I'm used to devs staying away if development on a new device isn't hot - which usually is in line with how popular a device is. I'm lost on why this is working out like this with the G3.
I'm really happy with stock too for once. I usually root, unlock, throw Nova on it and maybe go with a stock debloat deodexed or some variation of stock. I can't believe I'm good with the stock launcher ,de-carrieriq'ed + tweakbox. I'm not seeing any lag issues at all either. This thing is dusting my S5. I'm just happy that everything is working, radio being disabled and IR being hosed for 3rd party apps sucks a bit but that's minor.