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Sense3.6 vs Vanilla

Well.. i have come to the question.. im a big fan of Vanilla Roms and especially JB...
But in your opinion, what is better and smoother to run on DS, sense3.6 or ICS/JB?

Vanilla from ICS up is much nicer to look at.

Kavrocks said:
Vanilla from ICS up is much nicer to look at.
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still JB is not stable enough =/
any ideas?

Niko0olas said:
still JB is not stable enough =/
any ideas?
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You could try Ice Cold Sandwich? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1502508
I think JB is much nicer than ICS, but as you say it's not really dependable yet (my opinion). Ice Cold has a few issues but is pretty stable for everyday use.

I have been using ICE DS for few weeks and i must say that I'm happy with this rom cause its stable.
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JB not stable ? Latest version of JB by Andromadus is awesome, I never imagined that DS might be so beautiful and extremely smooth in use (project's butter contribution i guess), the only thing I'm missing now is fully working camera but everything else is just great !

outsidetown said:
You could try Ice Cold Sandwich? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1502508
I think JB is much nicer than ICS, but as you say it's not really dependable yet (my opinion). Ice Cold has a few issues but is pretty stable for everyday use.
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true, Ice Cold Sandwich was my daily driver before JB. but i prefer JB for now =/
Lapanen1995 said:
I have been using ICE DS for few weeks and i must say that I'm happy with this rom cause its stable.
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This is the rom i was actually asking about, i donno, i may give dualboot a try.
mrp1nk said:
JB not stable ? Latest version of JB by Andromadus is awesome, I never imagined that DS might be so beautiful and extremely smooth in use (project's butter contribution i guess), the only thing I'm missing now is fully working camera but everything else is just great !
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ahhh i have to agree, i use codename android for weeks now and i love it.
Never tried Andromadus tho.

Niko0olas said:
ahhh i have to agree, i use codename android for weeks now and i love it.
Never tried Andromadus tho.
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Could you share some info how is it's performance, what's not working and is it stable ? I'd reconsider changing rom to this if it's worth it.

Niko0olas said:
... what is better and smoother to run on DS, sense3.6 or ICS/JB?
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I'd rather use ICS than JB at the moment. There are just too many bugs in most of the JB ROMs, imho. You could give AOKP ICS by tectas a try. It's feature complete and very stable: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1616719

Waiting for the jb updates for the htc one serie. Hope soon to have jb+sense roms

mrp1nk said:
Could you share some info how is it's performance, what's not working and is it stable ? I'd reconsider changing rom to this if it's worth it.
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i can say that there are almost no bugs other than the existing.
Games lag sometimes but im not sure yet if its GPU or my CPU settings (max 1024)
Battery life is a problem tho... it can last for a day with busy sms and medium to busy calls...
but still not sure how it will perform in a busy week day..
going back to the army tomorrow and im thinking of ICS/MIUI/Sense than JB

sense
i definitely prefer the vanilla look, and JB is soo smooth. though it seems to me that there is not yet one vanilla rom for our device that is completely stable. im using clean and light sense rom, which is really fast and has great battery life, while praying for a stable vanilla rom :angel:

You could perhaps try ICE DS (Sense 3.6) with the tweaked v6.0 kernel, I'm using this now and it's rock solid which seems like what you'd want! I also run Apex launcher, so you get a bit of the vanilla feel in the homescreen/app drawer (but with more options!)
I don't think it'll be long til we get a more stable JB, but if you're going away it's a much better idea to have something reliable.

so, guys, i need battery life... at least 1.5 day without charge with only normal sms usage.
Is there any chance that ICE DS with tweaked kernel v6 can hold that much?
I know that CNA (JB) cant hold that much... even tho i love it...

Niko0olas said:
so, guys, i need battery life... at least 1.5 day without charge with only normal sms usage.
Is there any chance that ICE DS with tweaked kernel v6 can hold that much?
I know that CNA (JB) cant hold that much... even tho i love it...
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guys? can someone answer me? im going back in the army tomorrow morning.. i need a big battery capacity rom =/

Niko0olas said:
guys? can someone answer me? im going back in the army tomorrow morning.. i need a big battery capacity rom =/
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I'd say go CM7 or Reaper

Niko0olas said:
guys? can someone answer me? im going back in the army tomorrow morning.. i need a big battery capacity rom =/
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You can achieve that to any ROM if you have a properly calibrated battery, turned off WiFi, GPS, Background Data (Gingerbread and below), Auto-sync off, Brightness preset, GSM network only, and to an area where GSM reception is high. Zero or no reception tends to make your OS to let your radio work harder just to have a network from your provider.
Additionally, if you have an optimized custom ROM, not play so much games, tweaked properly and not so much OC, UV proper governor, not much app running in the background will also help
Basically, turn off the other features that make your smartphone a "smartphone" and just use it mainly for talk and sms. You're better off with a Nokia 3310 if you will. Chuck Norris seems to be the only match for that phone.
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I haven't been able to test ICE DS's battery to be able to recommend it for you, I'm currently trying different governors etc. and although the rom is great the battery life is not, thus far.
Before this I was using Fallout, and I think I'd recommend that. Flash 4.4,the UV tweaked kernel (the zip worked fine for me, I used 1200/245 on demand and sio settings). Decide if you like sweep2wake and get rid if not (I did, instructions in the thread.)
With this setup I got close to 30 hours after properly charging and discharging after flashing.
I would also highly recommend apex launcher like I said before, which gives you a ton of options to play with and a stock feel. Finally, itandy has made a brilliant app available in the development forum, that allows you to keep lock screen shortcuts with a non-rosie launcher.
I hope that helps, it's hard to say how much battery you'll get because you probably use your phone very differently to me, or anyone else. What I've said here is a good bet though. Stay safe!
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outsidetown said:
I haven't been able to test ICE DS's battery to be able to recommend it for you, I'm currently trying different governors etc. and although the rom is great the battery life is not, thus far.
Before this I was using Fallout, and I think I'd recommend that. Flash 4.4,the UV tweaked kernel (the zip worked fine for me, I used 1200/245 on demand and sio settings). Decide if you like sweep2wake and get rid if not (I did, instructions in the thread.)
With this setup I got close to 30 hours after properly charging and discharging after flashing.
I would also highly recommend apex launcher like I said before, which gives you a ton of options to play with and a stock feel. Finally, itandy has made a brilliant app available in the development forum, that allows you to keep lock screen shortcuts with a non-rosie launcher.
I hope that helps, it's hard to say how much battery you'll get because you probably use your phone very differently to me, or anyone else. What I've said here is a good bet though. Stay safe!
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Guys i know how to save battery, but JB (CNA) droped 1% cz of vibration,
seen it from 72% dropping to 71% and right after to 70% xD
Anw, im just gonna need it for heavy texting, my girl really gets anxious when im in there
I was using Sense4A port from proxuser before, i have to admit that i loved the battery life.
EDIT: i decided to go with Fallout & also download ICE_DS and CNA on my SDcard...
if i find any problem with Fallout im gonna backup my messages and contacts and switch to ICE_DS..
Now there goes a battery testing for soldiers =p

Niko0olas said:
still JB is not stable enough =/
any ideas?
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In your personal opinion. CM9 and 10 are both stable enough for me so I'm happy, if you aren't go and help the development of JB ROMs.

[Q] Fastest & lightest ROM?

Hi! What is the fastest / most light weight ROM out there for Captivate that will have best battery life and have bare minimum services running? Thanks!

RMSe17 said:
Hi! What is the fastest / most light weight ROM out there for Captivate that will have best battery life and have bare minimum services running? Thanks!
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I suggest Slim bean. Cbalt's version of Hellybean. AOKP. and LANIGHT. If you want a Jellybean based ROM.

i think helly bean

Try lanight nodatadata
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I've personally been on Slim Bean since release and loving it. I hear good things about Helly Bean too.

la night
i think that la night is the fastest rom for cappy nowdays, bugs i have found (in 3.2 datadata version) are that external storage isnt mounting on pc and some notification buttoms sometimes don't work propertly (2g/3g switch, data on/off, and if you want to choose brightness levels force closes) apart from that is the best rom i tried

I found Lanight (with datadata) to slow down over time, went back to helly bean and its better.

takeoutttt said:
I suggest Slim bean. Cbalt's version of Hellybean. AOKP. and LANIGHT. If you want a Jellybean based ROM.
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Those are all good choices. CM9 default is fast, CM7.2.
Honestly though Slimbean 2.4 and LANIGHT were the fastest roms on my device. Up until the latest nightly for CM10 (09132012), CM10 just felt almost unusable laggy. Made the captivate cannon fodder. (I wanted to throw the phone). The night-lies after 0913 must've done something to address that though, it's WAY more usable still not slimbean or LANIGHT fast.

Slimbean 2.4 has been a huge upgrade in my eyes. Now my cappy runs smooth, has good gps locks, and has great battery life. I always felt like hellybean got slow over time and killed my battery a lot faster than other roms.

Thread closed. The best ROM is the one that works best for you.

[Q] Someone using MIUI JB on DS?

Hello,
my Question: Is Someone using MIUI JB on DS? How about the battery life, stabilty and speed?
Sorry for my bad english

Hey!
I have used MIUI JB rom for a week! it's absolutly a very fast rom!
But i had the following issues:
Camera works 100% only on first boot some problems but after using it more than 3 times the issue is gone!
The battery life is terrible.after 8-9 hours sleep the battery drains about 25%! And on normal use it drains after like 2 - 3 hours!
3D games lag sometimes here and there! Temple run works fine and smooth!
And the best about this rom it's stunning fast! i compared the boottime between the iphone 4s (dual core) vs Htc desire s (one core)
Desire s was about 1 second slower. and against the iphone 4 12 seconds faster boot time!
I think you should try the rom first! maybe it works better on you're device if you'r lucky !

Actually the battery life is the most important for me
Which version do you use?

ddd- said:
Actually the battery life is the most important for me
Which version do you use?
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I use ICE DS v.6.0 Rom. It's a stock Htc Sense 3.6 with android version 4.0.4.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1567715
The rom is very Stable! i never had issues with this rom!
Battery is very good! i don't know how much it drains by night!
But after 7 hours studying in school! i looked at my phone and it just drained 4% . didn't use it!
But if you use it the battery drains pretty slow . It has actually a great battery life!
Gaming performance is good! i tested today the new Need For Speed Most Wanted. and it was Lag Free!
No camera issues! It's a very good rom voor daily usage/gaming/long battery life!
No Bugs/Freezes found so far!
This is probably the best rom i have and found so far!
I hope i gave you some good information!
And by the way sorry for my bad english
Don't Forget the thanks button!
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bokilz said:
I use ICE DS v.6.0 Rom. It's a stock Htc Sense 3.6 with android version 4.0.4.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1567715
Gaming performance is good! i tested today the new Need For Speed Most Wanted. and it was Lag Free!
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are u sure about this??

i have used it for close to a month, but i wasnt very happy with it, though boot times are faster than stock, i found that it has its share of hiccups, i didnt like how the camera functioned, there was a bluish tinge to the photographs, some apps had a lot of lag and games particularly werent very smooth. also the gps didnt work at all so couldnt use the maps, which for me was a big let down as i use maps a lot. i think flashing a custom rom is overrated, unless u r a developer i think its pointless, i am happier with sense 3.6 and ics 4.03 stock rom of htc
the only reason i would ever root my phone again would be if i could find a pure stock android experience otherwise i wouldnt.
ddd- said:
Hello,
my Question: Is Someone using MIUI JB on DS? How about the battery life, stabilty and speed?
Sorry for my bad english
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glacier1122 said:
are u sure about this??
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Yep! i'm sure! i got like 25 - 30 fps. no framedrops no lags.

cnkapadia said:
the only reason i would ever root my phone again would be if i could find a pure stock android experience otherwise i wouldnt.
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Pure stock android? You mean like cyanogenmod, aokp etc.? I'm running flinny's (andromadus) latest CM10 build, and find it extremely stable and far faster than anything with sense. And it's fully working, now the front cam is fixed.

i tried cm7.2 stable build and didnt really like it... cm9 and cm10 for desire s not available as yet, and i dont want to flash a nightly or experimental rom, im not a developer, im a noob,
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Pure stock android? You mean like cyanogenmod, aokp etc.? I'm running flinny's (andromadus) latest CM10 build, and find it extremely stable and far faster than anything with sense. And it's fully working, now the front cam is fixed.
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Ok guy, new question:
Which rom offers the best battery lifetime for you? Speed is not the most important for me, I only play plague inc. sometimes. I only want a rom for daily use

ddd- said:
Ok guy, new question:
Which rom offers the best battery lifetime for you? Speed is not the most important for me, I only play plague inc. sometimes. I only want a rom for daily use
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Just Find a stock htc rom

bokilz said:
Just Find a stock htc rom
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I think the best rom that have good battery life is based on usage and configure of owner. I set some cpu governor, limited use 3G and have a battery life about 2 days.
ah, my rom is JellyTime.

I tried official MIUI V4 2.11.5 (ICS) i guess from the miui.com but got force close after installation. The site told that i need to S-OFF my phone is that true?

Unless you think that they are likely to be lying just for the fun of it, it is always best to follow any Devs guidelines when it comes to installing ROMs.

The problem is. I'm already at hboot 2.2x lolz and I don't know how exactly to downgrade and s-off. I read some thread that told me to downgrade using RUU. But dunno it will work or no. Also my device ia S510e Is that any difference with common desire s?
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[Q] Could you recommend a good JellyBean ROM for Nexus S

I'm currently running latest stock Android 4.1.2 on my Nexus S. It appears that official Google support has come to an end and therefore there is no point keeping the original software. It also seems to me that current version of Android on Nexus isn't exactly a good example of well optimized software which is the reason why I'm looking for an alternative.
My requirements are speed, stability and possibly better battery life. Extra functionality is not important, I'm happy with 4.1.2 as it is. However I don't want to downgrade to ICS not to mention Gingerbread.
So could you recommend me a good alternative rom for Nexus S, based on your own experience? I'm currently thinking of CyanogenMod because there is plenty of people behind it and its really famous so I guess it should be stable and reliable but I haven't decided yet. What do you think?

I use AOKP with the marmite kernel. Works great.
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Also 4.2 for me with marmite kernel for sure
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I use SlimBean 3.1 with stock kernel...Works great....I waiting the 4.2 crespo rom from slimbean....!!!

CM10 with either stock or Marmite kernel.
Perfection.

For me, it's CM10 with stock Cyanogen Kernel... i'm waiting for Cyanogen 10.1 ^^

Otalgia said:
For me, it's CM10 with stock Cyanogen Kernel... i'm waiting for Cyanogen 10.1 ^^
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I meant default CM kernel.
Speed, stability and features are brilliant for a device that is now 2-years-old.

Nexus-S said:
I meant default CM kernel.
Speed, stability and features are brilliant for a device that is now 2-years-old.
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Same here currently on cm 10 stable with default kernel for weeks now it's been really fast and stable. Was surprised. I had tried cm10 when it came out for our device and it was pretty bad stability and battery wise so I went to aosp roms.... Gave stable a shot and wow it has come a looooooong way in such a short time
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For me, it's CM10 with stock Cyanogen Kernel... i'm waiting for Cyanogen 10.1 ^^
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Another vote for CM10. I'm currently using the new rasbean, but if 4.1.2 is good with you, I'm not sure anything can beat the stability of the stable version of CM10.

Having tried tons of amazing ROMs on ICS, I feel there were more stable and fluid options than with 4.1... That's not to say 4.1 didn't have great ROMs, I'm just saying that it was harder to find a stable, speedy, efficient 4.1 ROM... If you want to stay with 4.1, then I can only vouch for BAKEDbean 6... I haven't tried as many 4.1's as I did with 4.0... From memory, Slim Bean was pretty good... I just didn't like some of the included options...
Now here's what I can say about 4.2 ROMs... Since you don't mind missing some included features like theme chooser, statusbar tweaks, etc... Then I would highly suggest Rasbean with Matr1x CFS 24.0 (non-cm version)... I always told myself that I would never use a ROM without theme chooser... But after trying this ROM, I've discovered that speed and fluidity is way more important to me than a few extra features... This ROM is amazing... I'm getting much better battery life with this combo than with any 4.1 combo I tried... At the very least, give it a try
*edit* in case you see reviews or read somewhere that it's not a "stable" release... I would ignore that crap because I haven't had a single issue with this ROM other than the phone app fc'ing after some calls which is 4G related... and since you're on crespo, you won't have that problem... Everything works on this ROM!!!
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rom cm 10 stable version with kernel matr1x v24

Cm10 with marmite kernel beast
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Moved to Q&A section....thank you.

Hey, thanks to all of you guys. I switched to CyanogenMod 10 since many of you have recommended it and it also seemed to me pretty solid and reliable. Nexus S now does seem a little bit faster and more fluid however it's hard to tell after less than a day of using it. I won't go back anyway, those few extra features are really nice. My problem with stock JB was that it suffered from some kind of memory leak... quite often I ended up with literally 0 MB of free ram. The phone also got quite often to a state of total unresponsiveness for few moments without any obvious reason. None of these problem has occured in CM so far however for example during heavy usage, when I go back to home screen, the launcher is really slow (1-2fps) for few seconds. But I guess I can't expect much from 2 year old hardware.
You also mentioned several alternative kernels... what can I expect from that in daily usage?

tobice said:
Hey, thanks to all of you guys. I switched to CyanogenMod 10 since many of you have recommended it and it also seemed to me pretty solid and reliable. Nexus S now does seem a little bit faster and more fluid however it's hard to tell after less than a day of using it. I won't go back anyway, those few extra features are really nice. My problem with stock JB was that it suffered from some kind of memory leak... quite often I ended up with literally 0 MB of free ram. The phone also got quite often to a state of total unresponsiveness for few moments without any obvious reason. None of these problem has occured in CM so far however for example during heavy usage, when I go back to home screen, the launcher is really slow (1-2fps) for few seconds. But I guess I can't expect much from 2 year old hardware.
You also mentioned several alternative kernels... what can I expect from that in daily usage?
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I have not an ounce of lag on rasbean 4.2.1... I didn't think it would get better than 4.1 but it clearly does... I don't think everyone that recommended cm10 has even tried a 4.2 ROM yet... BTW, cm10.1 will be released soon and I'm sure everyone with update then...
For kernel, use airkernel or matr1x... Think of the kernel as the brain of the phone... It tells the phone what to so with the hardware... So you can tweak things foe better speed or better battery or even attempt to get a good balance between the two...
My last time mentioning it... I would strongly recommend you to backup your current setup and flash the 4.2 ROM with matr1x 24.0... That is all
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the1dynasty said:
I have not an ounce of lag on rasbean 4.2.1... I didn't think it would get better than 4.1 but it clearly does... I don't think everyone that recommended cm10 has even tried a 4.2 ROM yet... BTW, cm10.1 will be released soon and I'm sure everyone with update then...
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Really it does work that well? Hmm then it is really sad that Google has cut off Nexus S from official updates. I will definitely try 4.2 but I will probably wait for CM 10.1 if you say it will be released soon.
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For kernel, use airkernel or matr1x... Think of the kernel as the brain of the phone... It tells the phone what to so with the hardware... So you can tweak things foe better speed or better battery or even attempt to get a good balance between the two...
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Well I know what the kernel is (I have been using Linux on my desktop for several years ) I was just curious how one can benefit from using an alternative kernel for Android. You say I can tweak things for better speed or battery life... does it mean that I can for example sacrifice 30% of battery life and exchange it for 30% of performance in gaming? What are the limits of this tweaking?

What ICS ROM should I try?

Hi. I got my device pretty late, in September and it was already preloaded with Jelly Bean. At the moment I am running MDO (RasbeanJelly based with CM bits) by knzo and I really like its performance and fluidity. But, I stumbled across few threads suggesting that ICS has better battery life (up to 7 hours screen time, now I am on about 3.5h). It seems to me that ICS development stopped and now I wanna try some good ICS ROM, fluid, stable and better battery life wise. Everyone's focusing on 4.2 now, I want to try something older .
Are stock ICS 4.0.4 or CM 9.1 any good?
TIA, HNY

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Hi. I got my device pretty late, in September and it was already preloaded with Jelly Bean. At the moment I am running MDO (RasbeanJelly based with CM bits) by knzo and I really like its performance and fluidity. But, I stumbled across few threads suggesting that ICS has better battery life (up to 7 hours screen time, now I am on about 3.5h). It seems to me that ICS development stopped and now I wanna try some good ICS ROM, fluid, stable and better battery life wise. Everyone's focusing on 4.2 now, I want to try something older .
Are stock ICS 4.0.4 or CM 9.1 any good?
TIA, HNY
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CM9.1 is very good IMO, but really JB is much better than ICS in terms of speed and fluidity. Battery may be a bit better in ICS, but I would not trade it for speed. 3.5 hours is very good battery life and that talk about 7h of screen time is nonsense, it is posible in some conditions but not in daily usage (running a 1x1 video in lowest brightness in airplane mode might get you 7 hours but what is it good for). All in all difference in battery life is marginal, I didn't notice any difference when moving from ICS to JB.
Pozdrav!

Oh, i'm little disapointed right now. I'll stick to the JB 4.1.2 then and look forward towards the JB 4.2.1.
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Ted Mosby said:
Hi. I got my device pretty late, in September and it was already preloaded with Jelly Bean. At the moment I am running MDO (RasbeanJelly based with CM bits) by knzo and I really like its performance and fluidity. But, I stumbled across few threads suggesting that ICS has better battery life (up to 7 hours screen time, now I am on about 3.5h). It seems to me that ICS development stopped and now I wanna try some good ICS ROM, fluid, stable and better battery life wise. Everyone's focusing on 4.2 now, I want to try something older .
Are stock ICS 4.0.4 or CM 9.1 any good?
TIA, HNY
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I say just try them out and see, remember just because we have the same device with the same ROM doesn't mean we will have the same results, there are so many variables involved...apps/usage/requirements so on, but to get a good test, load up your phone run it for few days, if you are not happy try another ROM.

Ted Mosby said:
Oh, i'm little disapointed right now. I'll stick to the JB 4.1.2 then and look forward towards the JB 4.2.1.
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Check out the slim ROMs.....
both the ICS and JB versions are great.
Stable and great battery life.
Good luck
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Either slim ROM or kangyu ultra remix is my advice
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