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which tablet is better the Asus transformer Infinity or Samsung galaxy note 10.1
please tell us what do you think and why?
This is what I think:
for the Asus transformer Infinity:
* it has a a good super IPS+ 1920x1200 Pixels (which I Love) its great for watching full HD movies, web browsing, viewing photos, some apps like Photoshop and document editing. but it comes with some light bleeds and dynamic contrast (which I don't Like).
* it has the Nvidia Tegra 3 (1.6GHz Quad-core 1.6 GHz Cortex-A9) with battery saving core. with 3D output via Micro HDMI and physics. and games look the best on it. Most tablets have the same Processor type even the Gloogle Nexus which means better support for android in the future.
* it has a nice keyboard dock with extra battery, USB host and SD card reader.
* it can run NTFS file format out of the box without any rooting or hacking.
* base model is $499 with 32G and 1G of DDR3 Ram.
For the SAMSUNG Galaxy Note 10.1:
* it has a great PLS TFT display (i likey), but with a 1280x800 Pixels (Me no likey)
* It comes with the S Pen (active digitizer), which makes it great for work, drawing and students.
* Base model (wifi only)is $735 with 16G and 2G of ram.
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so what do you think which one you would go for and why?
I'm a student and the keyboard on the infinity comes in handy a lot especially when I open my etextbooks and use the find function on certain keywords that I need to know. So I would pick the infinity.
Also I believe the wifi 16gb is 499.99 and the 32 gb is 549.99 for the note according to the rumors
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the screen of the infinity is simply amazing! the resolution is awesome and in normal usage (movies, apps, games, etc.) there is no such thing as light bleeds noticeable (even if you are searching for them)
the s-pen from the galaxy note 10.1 is not that great. I have a samsung galaxy note (phablet) and use the pen not really often. i'm also a little bit dissapointed because the pen isn't that accurate as i thought. I have the infiity and bought a cheap pen for it. that is at least the same in accuracy, i think even better. the advantage of the s-pen would be the additional button for special functions. but i noticed that it's not really a must have. I use the pen button not really often. on the note (phablet) you have to use it because otherwhise you are not able to use the back or menue button (no onscreen buttons).
I would definitly go with the infinity
I hope this helped
Perhaps this is indeed the most closest competition Infinity has on the market right now/soon.
Why NOT galaxy note 10.1.
1. Screen - In all honesty, if this unit had HD screen I might have actually considered this over the Infinity. But no HD screen is a deal breaker.
2. Price - If its really that expensive, the price will likely to either go down quickly or you will see newer better device with cheaper price tag and regret how much you paid.
3. Samsung - Horrible update. With fancy split screen, this will even get worse. One may think 4.1 Jellybean is just a minor update so good chance Samsung may push sooner than it was on ICS BUT what about next Android OS? You have to either wait almost full year or may not even be supported who knows. Whereas, ASUS have the best tracking record on this regard and now with Nexus 7, they will keep having newer android OS. As long as Nexus 7 can be updated, I am sure Transformer prime, infinity and TF300 can.
Good things about 10.1 but reason why NOT still deal breaker
1. The multiscreen function is great; however, it is not free for all. Only handful of application are supported. As someone else previously posted, there is already application that allows you to watch video while you doing other things. Though I like the idea of able to browse while do something else like read ebook. But I don't think this is even possible on the galaxy note either as ebook reader is not one of those split screen supported app.
2. S-pen. I owned couple Windows based tablet with Wacom digitizers. They were great BUT still nothing is same as pen and paper. Perhaps galaxy note 10.1 may be the one, but I highly doubt. Plus nowaday, typing is much faster than writing for most of us.
3. 2GB RAM. Impressive decision here. However, as pretty much all Android devices at this point are 1GB and nothing really pushing to its limit yet, the chance we see anything different by having 2GB is low except you may be able to do more multitasks than usual but that will drain battery.
Truly better on Galaxy note 10.1
1. Battery Life. Simply Infinity's battery life is problem. So galaxy note 10.1 tramps it.
2. GPU. Though CPU is compatible between 2, GPU benchmark on the Galaxy note 10.1 is superior to that of Infinity by a quite margin. However, I am not certain if we will see anything specific to really utilize this power. My belief is developers will focus on the most common spec, which for tablet likely be the nexus 7. If so, Infinity will certainly not have issue. However, having said this, who knows my huge PDF may open much quicker and smoother on the Galaxy Note.
HoushaSen said:
1. The multiscreen function is great; however, it is not free for all. Only handful of application are supported. As someone else previously posted, there is already application that allows you to watch video while you doing other things. Though I like the idea of able to browse while do something else like read ebook. But I don't think this is even possible on the galaxy note either as ebook reader is not one of those split screen supported app.
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Actually, there is a great "windowed" browser available too - it's called "OverSkreen" - highly recommend it! The same developer also makes a floating calculator, video player (as you already mentioned), terminal emulator and one or two more. There is also a note-taking app (very basic) that is "windowed" - it's called Hovernote. Definitely check out Overskreen though!
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2. S-pen. I owned couple Windows based tablet with Wacom digitizers. They were great BUT still nothing is same as pen and paper. Perhaps galaxy note 10.1 may be the one, but I highly doubt. Plus nowaday, typing is much faster than writing for most of us.
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One more thing about typed-in notes - they are completely searchable! Try searching your handwritten notes!
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jtrosky said:
Actually, there is a great "windowed" browser available too - it's called "OverSkreen" - highly recommend it! The same developer also makes a floating calculator, video player (as you already mentioned), terminal emulator and one or two more. There is also a note-taking app (very basic) that is "windowed" - it's called Hovernote. Definitely check out Overskreen though!
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Holy smoke. This (Overskreen) is amazing. Not even requiring to root and be able to use such application. Wow. With this I don't have any restriction, basically I can browse and do anything else I want. This even supports Flash. Obviously, one Galaxy Note 10.1 user can use this as well.
Thanks a lot.
Woah that overskreen is just amazing on infinity! Thanks a lot it takes this resolution and tablet to whole neww level
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Price of Note for wifi model is $500 for 32gb, http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/851200-REG/Samsung_GT_N8013EAYXAR_16GB_Galaxy_Tab_2.html
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Actually, there is a great "windowed" browser available too - it's called "OverSkreen" - highly recommend it! The same developer also makes a floating calculator, video player (as you already mentioned), terminal emulator and one or two more. There is also a note-taking app (very basic) that is "windowed" - it's called Hovernote. Definitely check out Overskreen though!
One more thing about typed-in notes - they are completely searchable! Try searching your handwritten notes!
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dont forget Lilypad, the floating facebook/msn/gtalk IM client.
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One's you start having a 1920x1200 resolution you will not want anything lower than that. So for 1280x720 resolution on the note, no thanks.
mywingtophone said:
One's you start having a 1920x1200 resolution you will not want anything lower than that. So for 1280x720 resolution on the note, no thanks.
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Build quality on devices made by Sammy is always suspect.....I'm really big on aesthetics the infinity pad is a beautiful device!
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The only tablet that has the lowest build quality issues are the ipads everyone else is a hit or miss.
jtrosky said:
Actually, there is a great "windowed" browser available too - it's called "OverSkreen" - highly recommend it! The same developer also makes a floating calculator, video player (as you already mentioned), terminal emulator and one or two more. There is also a note-taking app (very basic) that is "windowed" - it's called Hovernote. Definitely check out Overskreen though!
One more thing about typed-in notes - they are completely searchable! Try searching your handwritten notes!
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I am using an app called "Floating Note free". It works great
lesonal said:
Build quality on devices made by Sammy is always suspect.....I'm really big on aesthetics the infinity pad is a beautiful device!
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i'd have to disagree. samsung has less defects and problems than asus on tablets according to forum posts and my experience. i went through 4 og transformers before i gave up. i almost got a prime until i saw all the issues still going on with asus tablets. and of course some of the same issues are still here for their latest flagship tablet (bleed, dock draining spontaneously...). the one i have has developed both bleed and the clicking (both of which developed on all my OG tf after 3 days). since i don't see the bleed unless i'm in a dark room with full brightness (something i never do in actual use) it's not really an issue. plus at full brightness in daylight it's not noticeable either. the click is a bit annoying though. in my transfomers the click was because the screen was separating.
samsung's support for the hardware is piss poor however. and sammy's aren't as popular as the tf's dev support isn't as active also.
timrock said:
dont forget Lilypad, the floating facebook/msn/gtalk IM client.
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couldnt find it...seems like they removed it from playstore maybe?
I had actually considered waiting for this tablet, but based on all the feedback I read about how they never update their stuff, and we are already scheduled for JB, I went with the Asus.
I am still curious though, so I posted here....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1831115
Have a look.
i think i may go with the note because im a engineering student. i just need a tablet that can take notes (lots of formulas and graphs) and do web browsing. however i do have a lot of text books in pdf so the FHD will be nice.
externally - the infinity wins but its not like the note is butt ugly
internally - the note wins, benchmarks proves it and it comes with 2 gigs of ram. does the android need it? who cares, the more the better.
build quality - note: general consensus says samsung is the best out of the androids tablets and no one has complained about the build of the note. the infinity does have a few, but so far they havent manifested into sometime you really need to worry about. some people have gotten a perfect infinity though.
FHD - well for me as long as i dont expose myself too much to that high of a resolution i wont really notice 1200*800. Did anyone complain about the prime's resolution when it came out (at the moment more ppi than the ipad 2)? people just got spoiled, but it would be nice (ive seen the differences and it looks great). the note uses pls screen (samsungs version of ips) which isnt too bad and has nice coloring.
i/o - doesn't exists in samsungs world. i know the .26 fixed it for the most part (funny, i notice that after that update the infinity forum got a little less active)
updates - asus wins hands down but from all the reviews on the note its working perfectly fine out of the box. its not like jellybean is going to make it 3 times faster, the note is already fast on ics. keep in mind samsung makes the cpu and the tablet which may explain why their tablet are so much more fluid. alot of people are betting on jellybean to fix the io problem on the infinity but its not for sure.
speakers - the note has two speakers that is on the front pointed towards you.
keyboard - depends on the person, i will mainly need a tablet to write on and if i were to ever need a keyboard i can always use a bluetooth keyboard.
bluetooth - some people are having issues on their infinity with audio sync. the note doesnt have that and has aptx, an audio codec that improves the quality of the sound it is streaming (youll need an aptx compliant receiver though).
ir - the ir on the note is convenient for my time off being lazy on the couch web browsing while watching tv.
spen - some have complained about their experience on the orginal note but reviews has said samsung has improved it on the note 10.1. ive played with the orginal note and didnt have anything to complain about on the writing experience. at the moment no additional accessories can mimic an active digitizer (the cregle pen for ipad does look promising though)
gaming - even though the note has a better gpu, nvidia seems to have a lot of developers by the balls. hence, the tegra 3 gaming apps so the infinity may have a better gaming longevity if you want to get the fullest out of some games.
developers - asus diffidently has the most support from the community. although one main developer of CyanogenMod has given up on the infinity
as it stands (my opinion),
infinity: beautiful and expensive ereader and if you're a man that gambles, youll appreciate it more if you get a good one. gaming is better on it but there has been complaints about freezes (may be due to io) so thats kind of counterintuitive. betting that jb will fix io is too much for me.
but if the fhd and aluminum frame is really that important and you can overlook the possible issues of the infinity, get the infinity. hopefully all the complaints on the infinity are just from a select few and you will be bless with a perfect one.
note 10.1: a replacement for paper and pen and peace-and-mind it will work perfectly out of the box. in the end the only downside i see on note is not having a full hd but that shouldn't really matter. at the moment fhd is diffidently a luxury feature, on an already luxury item. if you are going to be doing a lot of writing and just want it to work right out of the box and not really deal with custom roms, get the note. if you want peace and mind on quality build and io, get the note.
right now im at 60 on the note, 40 on the infinity. but in the end it will really depend on the price. the early releases of the note are pretty expensive but that's usually how it is until the official release of the product has been revealed. theres no real official word from samsung saying that there will be a wifi only version and whether how much any of the models will cost. the price will determine which one i buy forsure.
Nobody seems to mention that Samsung Note also has calling feature, u can make calls from Note directly.
and Infinity has micro HDMI port. which samsung doesn't but u can use the MHL feature
Mike_23 said:
Nobody seems to mention that Samsung Note also has calling feature, u can make calls from Note directly.
and Infinity has micro HDMI port. which samsung doesn't but u can use the MHL feature
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you can make calls from pretty much any tablet. All you need is a google voice number and/or GrooveIP.
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@denniegst
You try to convince yourself that the GNote 10.1 is better than the TF700, Denniegst.
I show you.
"i think i may go with the note because im a engineering student. i just need a tablet that can take notes (lots of formulas and graphs) and do web browsing. however i do have a lot of text books in pdf so the FHD will be nice."
I am an engineering student too, if I need to calculate / take notes with formulas / graphs, paper and pencil is much better for those rough copy. I don't need to buy GNote 10.1 for 500$ to make rough copy. But when I travel, or when I am somewhere else, I need something to write my report, with a physical keyboard and more battery (TF700).
Moreover, I am a student and I like watching movies / TV series, Full HD is much better. With a mini Boombox that's awesome ! The Full HD is also very good to do web browsing, I don't want to go back to something less then HD !! :silly:
I really suggest you to take TF700... I know S-Pen seems funny, but you would only use it for Draw Something App, and maybe to have fun with your friends on S-Note.
About hardware, TF700 is very strong, for some years (even with Full HD games + PS3 gamepad).
"externally, internally, and build quality..."
Subjectives views. As you wish. Benchmarks are meaningless, you can't compare Full HD with non-HD tablet. But both GNote & TF700 are
"FHD - well for me as long as i dont expose myself too much to that high of a resolution i wont really notice 1200*800. The note uses pls screen (samsungs version of ips) which isnt too bad and has nice coloring."
I won't go back to 1200*800 or HD now. Full HD is the best, for multimedia or even for web browsing, or games, or ... everything. :good:
"i/o and updates"
TF700 has no problem here. I don't know about GNote. But as you said, ASUS wins.
About updates, you can't say that Jelly Bean isn't going to make it 3 times faster, that's not the point. That's about fixing issues. And if you were @2.3.6 for example, you know that you would like to be @4.0. If you were @4.0, you would like to play with 4.1 or more.
"speakers and keyboard"
Both things called "accessories". But, TF700 has more than an accessories because his keyboard is perfectly suitable for it, with a battery. For example, I'm going to have 7 hours plane, that will be a good help.
Speakers are tablet speakers... if you really do care about this, I suggest mini BoomBox, or Jambox ($$$).
About the battery, we can't believe Samsung or ASUS numbers, the community reports are good. I don't know them, but TF700 has a good thing : NVidia 4+1 processors. When you put "Battery Saving" mode, there is only 1 processor on, you can watch 1080p movies anyway, and the battery is going on for long.
"spen"
I have a bad opinion on this, because I think that's more a gadget. I am engineering student too, and S-Pen won't help us, but it would slow down our note taking. You can have fun with Draw Something App anyway...
"gaming and developers"
As you said, NVidia seems to have a lot of developers by the balls. But I would like to talk about Full HD Gaming, it really works very good ! That's the future...
And you know that ASUS has a good community.
"a replacement for paper and pen and peace-and-mind it will work perfectly out of the box"
Of course not ! It can't replace paper and pen !! You'll see... Try to work in groups for example (engineer stuff), with a GNote... Try to write equations and talk about it with colleagues with GNote... Try to do some maths with your GNote... I can assure you that a paper + pencil is irreplaceable.
"At the moment fhd is diffidently a luxury feature, on an already luxury item. if you are going to be doing a lot of writing and just want it to work right out of the box and not really deal with custom roms, get the note. if you want peace and mind on quality build and io, get the note."
Full HD in not a luxury feature ! :laugh:
That's the future ! That's much easier to work on Full HD, that's much better for movies, that's much better for everything.
About "peace and mind on quality build and io", you can't know that. You will see after weeks, but ASUS is good too, in my opinion. You just try to convince yourself I think.
I think that you will buy the GNote. But I really would like to talk with you few weeks later, then few months later. We will see.
@Mike_23
"Nobody seems to mention that Samsung Note also has calling feature, u can make calls from Note directly.
and Infinity has micro HDMI port. which samsung doesn't but u can use the MHL feature "
Do you mean that you can put a SIM Card with 30$/month ?
You already have a phone. And there are application to put use your phone with your tablet if you need it. Or Viber, or Skype, ...
ASUS TF700 has everything we need for some years (HDMI, Wifi Direct, Full HD, Keyboard + battery, strong hardware, USB which support external hard drive, µSD and SD (in the keyboard), touchpad (or mouse with USB port), ..). S-Pen could be there, but it's not very important for me... I already have a capacitive pencil, and I never use it !
I have both devices and would like to help people who have questions on the devices. So fire away.
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I have both devices and would like to help people who have questions on the devices. So fire away.
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That's great Well, I'm buying my first tablet and I've read many reviews and many comparisons between those 2 tablets, and I know almost everything about them. The only thing left is something that can't be written down or recorded Just out of those 2, which one is faster I know it seems like a general question but I'm talking about raw performance. As in, which one will open applications a lot faster and load them a lot faster. You know, browsers and so on.
I'd appreciate it, thanks
Im going to have to give the edge to the note. The combination of lower resolution and 2gigs of ram make it super fast. When i open an app on both devices at the same time i will say the note wins a majority of the time. When it comes to web browsing the note is a clear cut winner when scrolling through pages very little hangups. The infinity isnt far behind though and i am not a fanboy for either device i think they are both great but raw performance goes to the note.
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I spend a hour testing a Galaxy Note at a local store. Because my first TF700T was broken and I decided to test the Samsung to be sure that I pick the right one again.
Yes it's fast, but fast is not everything. Haptics, design and ergonomics goes pretty clear to ASUS.
That the ASUS is slower is just a matter of the Screen Resolution. Android is not optimized for this screen size now.
So if you have a Samsung device with the same stunning display you will see that it doesn't matters wich Company you choose if the OS isn't made for it.
Plastics against metal is a unfair war but ASUS feels a lot better to hold in hand. I don't understand why Samsung still uses this cheap plastics, ok they say it is for the wight but ASUS is lighter and thinner even in Metal Case..
Over all display res is ergonomics and ergonomics are pretty much the most important part in a held-in-hands device.
Samsung can't take any competition agains the TF700T in this point. Samsung put the same Resolution as they had on the first Galaxy Note to a double as big screen. Thats just a joke for a device calles it self highend.
Only points left for samsung, if you need it, is 3G and the stylus.
The Stylus is a pretty little toy, but at all I don't know where to use it in productivity.
So my choice again was clear, ASUS will become a lot faster with 4.1 and the screen is still amazing.
kabauterman said:
I spend a hour testing a Galaxy Note at a local store. Because my first TF700T was broken and I decided to test the Samsung to be sure that I pick the right one again.
Yes it's fast, but fast is not everything. Haptics, design and ergonomics goes pretty clear to ASUS.
That the ASUS is slower is just a matter of the Screen Resolution. Android is not optimized for this screen size now.
So if you have a Samsung device with the same stunning display you will see that it doesn't matters wich Company you choose if the OS isn't made for it.
Plastics against metal is a unfair war but ASUS feels a lot better to hold in hand. I don't understand why Samsung still uses this cheap plastics, ok they say it is for the wight but ASUS is lighter and thinner even in Metal Case..
Over all display res is ergonomics and ergonomics are pretty much the most important part in a held-in-hands device.
Samsung can't take any competition agains the TF700T in this point. Samsung put the same Resolution as they had on the first Galaxy Note to a double as big screen. Thats just a joke for a device calles it self highend.
Only points left for samsung, if you need it, is 3G and the stylus.
The Stylus is a pretty little toy, but at all I don't know where to use it in productivity.
So my choice again was clear, ASUS will become a lot faster with 4.1 and the screen is still amazing.
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This is the dumbest argument. First its not cheap plastic. Do some research.
Second the infinity problem is more then just screen resolution. Asus used cheap parts in the building. Thats why you have i/o issues.
Design and ergonomics is subjective. What's good for the goose isn't necessarily good for the gander.
And I have no clue what you're talking about with haptic. As far as I know it works fine on the Note. At least on mine.
The ONLY advantage you could quantitatively give Asus over Samsung is the screen resolution.
Aside from screen resolution, which ultimately each individual will have to decide which one he or she wants, both tablets have advantages over the other based on how you want to use it.
The Stylus is anything but a toy. I use it exclusively with S-Note for class and at work. Plus if you have any desire to do drawing/sketching on your tablet the Note is really the only choice. The infinity is horrible at stylus work. No matter how awesome your touchscreen tune is configured.
With that said the Infinity does offer a base with extended battery, sd card and a usb connection so if those matter then take that in to account. I found I didn't use the base very much. And when trying to take notes with the "office" apps I typed way to fast and there was serious delay.
As far as mirroring Infinity has hdmi out and Note has an allshare cast dongle (I believe this works with the note). Again subjective if you will use either.
I find the note better then then infinity. But that's just opinion and the way I use a tablet.
Oh and btw. Note warranty isn't voided when you root. Or at least you can get back to complete stock.
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This is the dumbest argument. First its not cheap plastic. Do some research.
Second the infinity problem is more then just screen resolution. Asus used cheap parts in the building. Thats why you have i/o issues.
Design and ergonomics is subjective. What's good for the goose isn't necessarily good for the gander.
And I have no clue what you're talking about with haptic. As far as I know it works fine on the Note. At least on mine.
The ONLY advantage you could quantitatively give Asus over Samsung is the screen resolution.
Aside from screen resolution, which ultimately each individual will have to decide which one he or she wants, both tablets have advantages over the other based on how you want to use it.
The Stylus is anything but a toy. I use it exclusively with S-Note for class and at work. Plus if you have any desire to do drawing/sketching on your tablet the Note is really the only choice. The infinity is horrible at stylus work. No matter how awesome your touchscreen tune is configured.
With that said the Infinity does offer a base with extended battery, sd card and a usb connection so if those matter then take that in to account. I found I didn't use the base very much. And when trying to take notes with the "office" apps I typed way to fast and there was serious delay.
As far as mirroring Infinity has hdmi out and Note has an allshare cast dongle (I believe this works with the note). Again subjective if you will use either.
I find the note better then then infinity. But that's just opinion and the way I use a tablet.
Oh and btw. Note warranty isn't voided when you root. Or at least you can get back to complete stock.
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for me plastic is cheap, no matter what kind u use, and if you use shiny plastics thats less cheaper haptics than ASUS.
Have you tried TF700T with 4.1 JB ROM? It is a lot more responsive and no more lags at all. More Resolution means more work for the Memory even on the UI, if it isn't optimized for this it would lag. Or did you have seen a more resoponsive Full HD Tablet now?! The I/O Troubles from cheap chips? Hynix 64GB NAND chip in 2X nm technology? Not the main problem about the I/O troubles more kernel side I think.
Yes Design is subjective. But please tell me that you better choose the Note Design over the Apple iPad's or ASUS TF700's. That should be a joke. Every review out there calls the plastic cheap.. and what feels cheap has a bad haptic in my understanding.
Stylus is a pretty nice feature for sure, but to be clear if you have the choice between Full HD and Stylus I choose Full HD because more density is just more.. more website, more picture, more from everything. If you want to draw on your tablet or you take handwritten notes often the stylus is yours. But why no full hd with stylus? the Display is just cheap and the display is one of the most important parts of a tablet.
I never had any real delay on my TF700T just little lags like on the most 4.0 Devices but from what you say delay in office I've never seen anything.
Tell me you would not prefer a Galaxy Note 10.1 and ASUS TF700T combination. The best of both worlds. ASUS Metal Body, Display, Dock, Camera, DDR3 and maybe Samsungs Stylus, 2GB Dualchannel Memory, IR-remote.
And as long as this perfect tablet doesn't exists everyone have to choose wich points he gives more wight.
And WHAT?! Rooting don't viod ASUS Warranty. Even unlocked ASUS still is cool with hardware defects.
Samsung also have a way to see what you have installed on your tablet and will don't give you warranty if you do great ****. Ever heard about Binary Counter?
Ever heard of the app that resets binary counter? Not like Asus which logs your s/n and has denied many warranty claims on that fact alone.
Please, your still spewing opinion as fact.
I guess you could search the infinity forum and the note forum and see which has more complaint threads.
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Please, your still spewing opinion as fact.
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you didn't?
I'm not a fanboy or something, yes I have a opinion and I give you a lot of facts for this opinion.
Even you do the same..
Well this got a lil out of hand lol. i was just answering a question that someone asked. He asked what one was faster and i gave him my opinion on it after playing with both side by side. He didn't seem worried about what they were made of, what JB would bring or what rooting/custom roms would do. Im guessing he was talking about sock out of the box devices if im worng then im sorry. I really didnt want this to turn into a flame war thread.
I have a Motorola Droid and an Infinity so if anyone wants to ask questions about that matchup, fire away.
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you didn't?
I'm not a fanboy or something, yes I have a opinion and I give you a lot of facts for this opinion.
Even you do the same..
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The only thing I stated that was a fact that made one better then the other was screen resolution.
Everything else about the two tablets comes down the subjectivity. I stated features that distinguish each tablet, but those features don't make one better then the other. It's up to each person to decide what features they want in a tablet and can live without from another.
Don't be mad dude.
And straight out of the box my opinion is the note 10.1 holds an edge as the better tablet.
i'm not a fan boy of asus, infact i have GS3. I have tried so hard to like the Galaxy Note 10.1. Bought it and returned it to bestbuy TWICE. trying to like it more than my asus and just can't. First i hate the cheap plastic YES CHEAP PLASTIC. hate it when you are holding the devices it feel SO CHEAP. Second the screen sucks compare to asus, cannot look at such low resolution and salutated colors, third i cannot get use to using a big touchwiz tablet, with all that crap installed. I understand that you can install custom rom, but 90% of the people don't even know about custom rom so they are force to use the tablet just has it is. With the infinity you don't have to do any of that. It looks plain ICS just the way i like it. Touchwiz looks to cartoony made for kids. I use my tablet for presentation and HDMI output is a must for me. Hate the way samsung uses HDMI, have to buy a $40 xtra connector plus using MHL hdmi requires Xtra power connector to an outlet for it to work. Asus tf700 run a microHDMI from tablet to HDMI TV and done.
OP - Since you have both tablets it would be benificial for everyone to see some comparison videos side by side. Only if your up to it. It does become time consuming.
I also have a note 10.1 that i won at work. Its nice, the pen thing is pretty cool but otherwise useless unless i want to draw or be an artsy pantsy dude. I mean using supernote on my infinity and writing with my fingers is as good if not better than the S pen app suite from samsung. The tablet is quite more responsive because lag plaigs the transformer but again, the TF700 has the ressources, just need to work on the software issue. The note is fatter, thicker and chunkier, it feels much cheaper also. The TF700 overall is the better tablet, it feel premium, has a beatiful screen resolution that in certain cases is better. I've compared both tablet side-by-side and played an MKV bluray rip and suprisingly the note has better, brighter colors, the blue is more blue, the greens are more green and in color saturation its considerably nicer. but unless you compare side by side, there is no way to know.
P.S. I can make a side by side video for you guys tonight
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The only thing I stated that was a fact that made one better then the other was screen resolution.
Everything else about the two tablets comes down the subjectivity. I stated features that distinguish each tablet, but those features don't make one better then the other. It's up to each person to decide what features they want in a tablet and can live without from another.
Don't be mad dude.
And straight out of the box my opinion is the note 10.1 holds an edge as the better tablet.
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I disagree. Cheap plastic, gimmick pen and horrible update history. TF700 ftw.... Also dude you need to calm down, calling other users argument stupid because they expressed an opinion shows how close minded you are. That kind of attitude is not needed on these forums.
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Ahhh.
I misunderstood the thread title.
It's about the Infinity and the Note 10.1.
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I disagree. Cheap plastic, gimmick pen and horrible update history. TF700 ftw.... Also dude you need to calm down, calling other users argument stupid because they expressed an opinion shows how close minded you are. That kind of attitude is not needed on these forums.
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I encourage people to express opinion. But don't express it as fact.
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That's great Well, I'm buying my first tablet and I've read many reviews and many comparisons between those 2 tablets, and I know almost everything about them. The only thing left is something that can't be written down or recorded Just out of those 2, which one is faster I know it seems like a general question but I'm talking about raw performance. As in, which one will open applications a lot faster and load them a lot faster. You know, browsers and so on.
I'd appreciate it, thanks
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I had Galaxy Note 10.1 for 3 weeks before returning. Prior to which I had Transformer Infinity for almost 4 weeks. So what I have now? I am back to Infinity and plan to keep it.
Galaxy Note 10.1 essentially superior to Infinity every aspect except screen i.e. smoother, more stable, faster (especially browser), longer tablet standalone battery life. This is a fact. You put things side by side and ran same applications, it is easy to see without even running benchmark tests.
So why I chose Infinity? Because the difference in aforementioned areas are to me not significant enough to the difference in screen resolution.
Full HD is (to me) noticeble every seconds I use the tablet. Slightly less stability i.e. random crash every other day or so (which for some reason seemed to have improved) vs. once every week is manageable. Loading web page is slower but that is like 10 seconds on really flash heavy site that I visit so I am losing probably 5-10 minutes every day at most because of the difference in page loading time.
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OP - Since you have both tablets it would be benificial for everyone to see some comparison videos side by side. Only if your up to it. It does become time consuming.
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I prolly wont do any vids there are quite a few on youtube.
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Ahhh.
I misunderstood the thread title.
It's about the Infinity and the Note 10.1.
Sorry I'm blind
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Yeah little typo, it doesnt seem that i proofread. Sorry about that.
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I sold my galaxy note 10.1 for buying the infinity. It wasnt any problems with the note. I read alot, and i find the resolution is a major let down for me. The screen have a superb quality on images, but on text its not quite good as a high resolution screen.
Ive followed a bit on this forum. Seems like this pad got so many problems. Are you satisfied with your infinty? Should I wait for the next pad?
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I sold my galaxy note 10.1 for buying the infinity. It wasnt any problems with the note. I read alot, and i find the resolution is a major let down for me. The screen have a superb quality on images, but on text its not quite good as a high resolution screen.
Ive followed a bit on this forum. Seems like this pad got so many problems. Are you satisfied with your infinty? Should I wait for the next pad?
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I would wait now after I know better..
Probably would wait that Samsung brings some high res non plastic out. Asus has lost my confidence in them
I love it.
I bought mine 5 weeks ago and have no regrets. I use it every day. Even though there are some problems, they aren't show-stoppers. The Infinity is, in my book, still the best tablet. The issues will be ironed out - if not by Asus, then by our own developers. If you're OCD and your tablet has to be perfect, keep looking... check back in the next month or two and see how the TF700 is with Jelly Bean. I'm enjoying the heck out of mine and love knowing that it'll only get better and better. Just my 2 cents.
You get a FHD screen and dock. You also get less stability and some questionable design choices with the terrible ssd nand and below average battery life due to the tegra 3 and fhd screen. Apple had the sense to use a better dedicated gpu and almost double the battery size for the fhd screen.
The tf700 does a lot of things fine but it has been a trial in patience. My tf300 had much better performance. The tf700 should've had an upgraded gpu, battery, and sad. It got none if these things. They seemed to spend all their time fixing the mistakes of the prime and did not anticipate issues with introducing a fhd screen.
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I sold my galaxy note 10.1 for buying the infinity. It wasnt any problems with the note. I read alot, and i find the resolution is a major let down for me. The screen have a superb quality on images, but on text its not quite good as a high resolution screen.
Ive followed a bit on this forum. Seems like this pad got so many problems. Are you satisfied with your infinty? Should I wait for the next pad?
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I chose the Infinity over the Note for the same reason, the FHD and the fact I read a lot. I am satisfied with it. You're in a good position now to decide this for yourself since the issues are mostly known already. I've not had quality issues, so far, but performance is lower than that of the Note. Would I still buy it again today? Yes, I think so. I upgraded from a Nook Color (on CM7) and since getting the Infinity I've been spending a ton of hours on it and enjoy it so much that I can't see myself returning it and just waiting (or going with lower res). If you have another tablet you're OK with as a stop gap then maybe wait, if not then go for it and enjoy it. In 2 years time we're likely to upgrade anyway and it's not like it's a pain to use now, it's just not as perfect as one would hope from a flagship product.
Another option is to wait for JB and decide then, that is if you feel you can't stomach the current reported performance / stability issues (which I seldom come across personally).
Go for it! Don't worry about the reports of the "horrible SSD", etc - the tablet runs fine... Some people put way too much stock in benchmark results.
The majority of users don't have 2gb files downloading in the background while trying to do other work, so the "SSD slowness" isn't even noticeable for most people.
Jelly Bean is supposed to be released very soon as well, so that should also boost performance. I have a Nexus 7, which is also manufactured by Asus (with the same "horrible" SSD) and it runs beautifully. I expect the TF700 performance to be similar to the Nexus 7 with Jelly Bean...
I would, however, recommend buying at a local retailer if possible - Asus quality control has been really bad on the TF700, so there is a chance that you may need to exchange it once or twice before getting a "good" one...
Besides, if you find you don't like it, you can always return it....
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I would wait now after I know better..
Probably would wait that Samsung brings some high res non plastic out. Asus has lost my confidence in them
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Feel the same way, Infinity might be Aluminum but it's made so terribly with the separating glass and cheap internal memory that is believed to be the reason this, otherwise great tablet, has i/o issues.
Just get it! The more you read the more you let others control your thinking and provides the haters sway your thinking. Unless that's what your looking for, its a great tablet. I love the keyboard combo and battery life is superb for someone that watches movies and shows daily. FULL HD is a must! Super IPS+ can't be beat. I rarely have to charge my tablet either. Now that Jelly Bean is confirmed, its even more appealing now then ever. Just go for it. Buy it at Best Buy so you'll have 30 days to decide.
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I'm not a hater, I'm just saying the Infinity could be better than it is and I think it's worth waiting for something else. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the tab especially now with browser2ram but it's definitely got a LOT of issues.
The biggest annoyance is that I have to restart the tab almost daily if I want to play Dead Trigger, also Asus left out the drivers for the PS3 controller so you NEED to root if you want to use one over bluetooth as opposed to every other ics device. The battery should have been bigger, I've drained it in sub 4 hours before from 100 to 3% playing Jelly Defense. Granted, that's a lot of Jelly Defense but it should last longer than that. The i/o issues is the biggest thing, browsing on this tab with Chrome is unbearable at best. Two things make it a lot better to browse on, Dolphin Pad beta and the browser2ram apk although the latter of which only works with the default browser.
Again, I don't hate the Infinity and I enjoy using it everyday but it cost a good amount of money and it's frustrating that Asus cut corners and it shows. Asus customer service also seems like it leaves a lot to be desired.
Somehow i feel like I shouldn't sell my note. It has absolute no problems. no lag, no hickups, no force close, fast browser, a very good pen, it made of plastic but feels very solid, i accidental dropped it once and it got no scratches, no damages where made. Man i wish samsung made a tablet with hd+ screen.
Btw, I bought the infinity over internet, the store got 45 days with full right to return if you are not satisfied. Finger cross that this tablet wont make any problem for me.
Re: Some of the points brought up here.
Battery life: From my perspective, this thing has fantastic battery life. I manage my resources pretty well, though. With the dock, it goes into unprecedented territory, I can use the system all day long on a full dock+tab charge.
Usage: If your primary application is reading, I don't think you're going to see many problems in the way of stability and you will find the screen wonderful and highly usable.
Stability: This is a tough one. If you want something that is super stable without any maintenance/tweaking/learning, yes, look elsewhere. My system as I have configured it only really has frequent problems with 3D games and that is due to a kernel graphics driver bug that has a fix coming out with the next OS update (so I am hopeful this one last issue will be fixed). Using this tab as a daily driver, I do not really have any major issues at this point, it's as stable and usable as any other android device I have owned except for the gaming problem.
Storage: The slow RAM everyone is complaining about here is nand flash that functions like a virtual hard disk. The actual system memory is perfectly functional dynamic RAM. The end result of this is that sometimes, this slow "disk" will act as a bottleneck and make the entire tab slow down. Honestly, the only time I see much of this is when running benchmarks, LOL. My ADHD is not so bad that I want to throw the tablet against a wall if there is a 300 millisecond pause when performing some operation. So, yeah, I DO think this is a weakness and a poor design choice by ASUS' engineers but in practice it is rarely a real world issue for me.
QA: Some folks have had some legitimately serious issues but I think a huge majority of the stuff that is cited here could have been mitigated by buying at a brick and mortar store with a decent return policy. I have not seen any hardware defect on the tablets I have owned that could not be indentified and exchanged within a 24 hour period. On a forum where people are coming to look for help, you're going to hear the horror stories so while I feel sorry for these folks I do not think some of these issues are super high frequency.
If you don't have that kind of safety net available in your purchasing situation, then, yes, I would be concerned about physical defects in a TF tab and would recommend avoiding one. But if you are able to buy it at a decent place like Best Buy, etc, you will find a good one and you will not get burned by this with the caveat that you may have to be patient enough to evaluate/inspect and return one.
Bottom Line: It's a great tab, the dock is amazing, the screen is glorious, the CPU is ridiculously fast. It has some minor stability issues that require a bit of learning configuring tweaking. It has slow I/O that can sometimes unnecessarily throttle the CPU, so if you are going to download torrents or surf high bandwidth adult web sites it may not be for you LOL . Since ASUS QA has been weak I would also only recommend purchasing in a situation where an exchange can be handled easily.
FWIW, there's no tab out right now I would trade it for.
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I'm not a hater, I'm just saying the Infinity could be better than it is and I think it's worth waiting for something else. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the tab especially now with browser2ram but it's definitely got a LOT of issues.
The biggest annoyance is that I have to restart the tab almost daily if I want to play Dead Trigger, also Asus left out the drivers for the PS3 controller so you NEED to root if you want to use one over bluetooth as opposed to every other ics device. The battery should have been bigger, I've drained it in sub 4 hours before from 100 to 3% playing Jelly Defense. Granted, that's a lot of Jelly Defense but it should last longer than that. The i/o issues is the biggest thing, browsing on this tab with Chrome is unbearable at best. Two things make it a lot better to browse on, Dolphin Pad beta and the browser2ram apk although the latter of which only works with the default browser.
Again, I don't hate the Infinity and I enjoy using it everyday but it cost a good amount of money and it's frustrating that Asus cut corners and it shows. Asus customer service also seems like it leaves a lot to be desired.
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That's good your not a hater. Honestly every tablet you will come across will have issues. NOTE, IPADS, TRANSFORMERS. I can also sit here and advise others to wait for the next best thing but that kind of mentality will just prevent you from enjoying the now. The now is the Infinity.
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I also just returned my Note 10.1 for the Infinity. I really liked the Note for the s-pen and all, but I quickly found that i never used it for what it was for. For me the tablet is a consumption device and to be used as a mobile solution for my online classes. The Infinity does this very well, and the screen resolution is more noticeable than i expected.
So far very happy with the Infinity.
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That's good your not a hater. Honestly every tablet you will come across will have issues. NOTE, IPADS, TRANSFORMERS. I can also sit here and advise others to wait for the next best thing but that kind of mentality will just prevent you from enjoying the now. The now is the Infinity.
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I'm aware you could sit and always be waiting for the next best thing and that thing will never come. I just think, now knowing Asus cheaped out, it's worth waiting for something else. Maybe Jelly Bean will fix a lot of the issues I have with this thing and my opinion will change, not sure. I hope it does
Having said all of that, the screen does kick an insurmountable amount of ass. It's just downright gorgeous.
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I sold my galaxy note 10.1 for buying the infinity. It wasnt any problems with the note. I read alot, and i find the resolution is a major let down for me. The screen have a superb quality on images, but on text its not quite good as a high resolution screen.
Ive followed a bit on this forum. Seems like this pad got so many problems. Are you satisfied with your infinty? Should I wait for the next pad?
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I had Galaxy note for 3 weeks and returned it for Infinity. I had infinity before note... and essentially came back because of screen resolution.
If you can wait, you should wait. Simply as others said, longer you wait better system always show up. That's the world of technology. But I doubt nothing that replace Infinity in next a few months for following reasons:
1. Samsung - Just released Note. If they release the higher resolution tablet or even announce about higher resolution tablet within next couple months, that is horrible thing as they will lose its own sales from Note and upset consumer who purchased one. Not only Note, but also they have Windows 8 tablet coming in end of October with high resolution screen but price tag of $1100+. So again, I don't think they want to compete with that either.
2. ASUS - Similar story. They just released infinity and probably purposely made upcoming Windows 8 tablet HD screen rather than FHD, so they won't compete with Infinity. And therefore, again highly doubtful they will be releasing anything new that is complete superior to the infinity within next few months.
Other vendors are similar like Sony and Acer just released their tablets as well.
The uncertain zone is Windows tablet from other vendors; however, among the currently announced windows tablet including from ASUS, Samsung, Acer, Dell, Microsoft (I may be missing some), there is only one with Full HD, which is Samsung's Ativ Smart Pro but this model again costs $1100 but its battery life is 5 hours of DVD play. So to me this proves that most likely all Full HD windows tablet that is coming in near future will be around the same price and likely with poor battery life for a while.
So yeah, basically if you are looking for full HD tablet you won't have much choice for next a few months. But I am sure by the time next iPad rumor start to arise, you see more Android tablet.
*I excluded Kindle HD here, because I simply don't think they are in same class but if you think they are your option, that's another option.
As for my experience, Infinity is much more stable than before for me and the only reason I initially gave up on infinity was too frequent ANR, and too slow browser loading time. Both of which I got it fixed (well ANR is probably not what I did but by firmware). So yes. this is indeed my ideal tablet at the moment.
I just bought my infinity a couple of days ago and I can't be happier. I use it for some ebooks, as I'm a Dr. of Physical Therapy student and the ebooks are MUCH cheaper.
I haven't used the Note, but what sold me on the infinity is how it essentially works like a "netbook" and it has actually replaced my netbook. I only wish there was a better microsoft office app, the app that came pre-loaded isn't the best, but it works.
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I just bought my infinity a couple of days ago and I can't be happier. I use it for some ebooks, as I'm a Dr. of Physical Therapy student and the ebooks are MUCH cheaper.
I haven't used the Note, but what sold me on the infinity is how it essentially works like a "netbook" and it has actually replaced my netbook. I only wish there was a better microsoft office app, the app that came pre-loaded isn't the best, but it works.
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Office Suite Pro on sale in the Play store for $0.25. Best Office app out there imho.
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Office Suite Pro on sale in the Play store for $0.25. Best Office app out there imho.
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25 cents!! That's amazing deal. Even the app sucks nothing to lose other than 25 cents!! Thanks for the information. I believe retail price is like $15 or $19 like others isn't it?
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Just get it! The more you read the more you let others control your thinking and provides the haters sway your thinking. Unless that's what your looking for, its a great tablet. I love the keyboard combo and battery life is superb for someone that watches movies and shows daily. FULL HD is a must! Super IPS+ can't be beat. I rarely have to charge my tablet either. Now that Jelly Bean is confirmed, its even more appealing now then ever. Just go for it. Buy it at Best Buy so you'll have 30 days to decide.
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100% agreed.
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Just get it! The more you read the more you let others control your thinking and provides the haters sway your thinking. Unless that's what your looking for, its a great tablet. I love the keyboard combo and battery life is superb for someone that watches movies and shows daily. FULL HD is a must! Super IPS+ can't be beat. I rarely have to charge my tablet either. Now that Jelly Bean is confirmed, its even more appealing now then ever. Just go for it. Buy it at Best Buy so you'll have 30 days to decide.
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When yuo say you rarely have to charge it, how often is that?
After using mine for reading comics, a few podcasts and tv, web browsing, i find I'm getting 3.5/ 4 hous which is pretty ****.
Hey everyone, so I got the opportunity to return my Transformer Prime for a full refund. I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations for another tablet besides the transformer infinity. Also, how do you like your transformer infinity.
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wtf?
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JusFig said:
Hey everyone, so I got the opportunity to return my Transformer Prime for a full refund. I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations for another tablet besides the transformer infinity. Also, how do you like your transformer infinity.
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For android tablet, I believe only real contender at this point is Galaxy Note 10.1. If you are ok with iOS, new Ipad is another. Each has their own pros and cons and I don't think any one of those is completely superior to the other two. So you have to prioritize what are the important factors or decision making factors for you.
For example,
I asked myself do I like iOS or Android? I had iPad 2 and multiple android tablets. I simply preferred Android, so new iPad was out.
Then is FHD crucial? After using FHD and non-FHD screen, I just could not go back to non-FHD. So I ended up arriving/technically coming back to Transformer Infinity. At this point, I am extremely happy with my decision especially after Jellybean update. But I have no doubt people can be as happy with either of above two tablets as well.
So those are three I think you should focus on as long as your budget permits.
The dark horse are the Windows 8 tablets, but none of them are Full HD except 1100+ Samsung's mere 5 hour battery, much heavier tablet. So again, without even trying they weren't my choice but could be yours.
Get the iPad 3.
Android is for the adventurous Apple is for the mundane...
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Hey everyone, so I got the opportunity to return my Transformer Prime for a full refund. I was wondering if anyone had any recommendations for another tablet besides the transformer infinity. Also, how do you like your transformer infinity.
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Your only choices are the nexus 7 and the Kindle HD 8.9.
All other tablets are enormously overpriced (the ipad especially). If you feel like paying for extra features (like the bigger screens on the infinity) then by all means, do it. With the infinity (or galnote, but I hate amoled) you're getting the best tablet. With the nexus or Kindle, you're getting the best value.
I exchanged my Infinity for the Note 10.1 and I like the Note better. It's just overall better (quality wise). Granted, the low res screen takes some time getting used to (though AFAIK the Prime has the same screen as the Note).
I can only agree with everything said above. If you buy now, on Android side, you have the following choices: Note 10.1, Nexus 7, Kindle Fire HD (though I wouldn't recommend it since Kindle Fire does not give you 100% Android experience). If you are willing to wait for another month, you will get an onslaught of Windows 8 tabs to choose from (Microsoft will officially Windows 8 on 26 Oct if I am not wrong). On the top of my head, I would be looking forward to ASUS Vivo Tab (imagine the combination of the Infinity and the Note 10.1: Keyboard dock + Wacom digitizer+ Office 2013). If I were you, I would definitely wait for next month, it does not seem that long.
Thank you all for your feedback! I think I'll hold out one more month and see what's on the way. Not a huge fan of iOS so iPad is out of the question. I'm liking what I hear about the note so far. When is this next Asus tablet supposed to come out?
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I like my 64Gb Infinity. I'm a movie buff, photography buff, and I like to travel. What sold me was the HD screen, the great battery life, the microSD slot, built-in GPS, and the HDMI out. What I miss is not having a built-in USB port, not having Cell service, and the built-in speakers kinda suck. I have an iPad through work, so I understand the convenience of always having internet access.
The lack of USB port was easily solved by buying the USB port adapter. Even more important, the USB port adapter provides power to the USB port. This is required to attach USB card-readers, hard disks, and USB speakers (solves the crappy built-in speaker problem).
Cell service (3g/4g) on a tablet has always been a take it or leave it feature for me because of the expense. But I did recognize spots where it would have come in handy. Most mobile GPS mapping apps require an internet connection, which is difficult to find while exploring a new city (Venice). Though, I have since found mapping apps that allow you to download and cache maps. I also signed up for a new startup service called FreedomPop, which provides an inexpensive (500Mb/Month for $5/month) 4g MiFi type device that works in the US, giving me an internet connection wherever I roam in the US. The cool thing about this service is that there are no commitments.
One issue that cropped up on a recent trip was a problem with writing to an external USB NTFS drive. This has since been resolved in the current Jelly Bean update.
I looked at a number of different Android tablets and it came down to the Infinity and the Galaxy Note 10.1. What sold me in the end was the HD display with IPS mode for bright daylight. 1080p movies look stunning on it and photos look great. The Infinity has replaced my travel laptop and my travel backpack is at least 3lbs lighter...
You might also consider the recently reported-on Nexus 10, which may or may not be the rumored Sammy p10. Still waiting for that one myself.
Amazon has accpeted to refund my Transformer Prime. Now I am wondering if I should replace it with the Infinity (in that case, I won't send my keyboard dock) or the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1. I have read about some issues that people were having with the infinity such as problems with the screen, hardware problems or lagginess even with Jelly Bean. I was wondering if these problems are generalized like the problem with the Prime or if they are isolated cases. Would you get an Infinity again if you could go back and choose?
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Amazon has accpeted to refund my Transformer Prime. Now I am wondering if I should replace it with the Infinity (in that case, I won't send my keyboard dock) or the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1. I have read about some issues that people were having with the infinity such as problems with the screen, hardware problems or lagginess even with Jelly Bean. I was wondering if these problems are generalized like the problem with the Prime or if they are isolated cases. Would you get an Infinity again if you could go back and choose?
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39 pages on this forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1662
44 pages on the Note forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1736
I would get a note 10.1 personally. The TF700 suffers from lag because it uses a slow nand chip. The note 10.1 uses a fast nand chip and there are no major flaws with it.
Would you rather have a higher resolution screen that lags & has quality control issues or a lower resolution screen that's fast?
Just got my tf700 after returning the prime a while back. Make your decision based on what you use the tablet for. I use the keyboard quite a bit and therefore would go with Asus. If you tinker/flash like me, Sammy is a good choice plus their stylus tech is pretty solid. (I own a Galaxy Nexus and an Infuse before that)
Barry is right, these threads often biased depending on the sub-forum. Google some reviews for both tabs and compare their features.
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The best way to decide (if possible) is to go to a store and play around with both of them.
The "slow Nand" issue is *way* overblown, in my opinion - most users would never even notice the problem. Honestly, the *only* time that I see any sort of lag or slowdown is when updating/installing apps, which can be done when the user decides (like when you don't need to do other things) - besides, how often are you actually install/updating apps while trying to do other things? Honestly, the issue is not nearly as bad as some would make you believe.
As another user already started, if you are going to do a lot of typing and want a FHD screen, the choice is rather obvious. If you actually have a real-world use for the S-Pen, then the Note 10.1 would be the obvious choice.
But again, do yourself a favor and go and try both devices for yourself - most of the stuff you read on these forums is very biased and most of these folks haven't even used both devices, so to get a true representation of the differences between both devices, you'll need to try then for yourself.
I will say this - since the JB upgrade, my TF700 absolutely flies - it is not "laggy" or slow at all - it runs *very* well. After a few small tweaks, even the stock browser is amazingly fast.
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You can use a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse with any of these devices. If you need a stand alone USB port on the TF700, ASUS makes one. I don't think the ASUS keyboard is reason to select the Infinity over something else.
I think the prime is very good hardware wise. I love the screen. This screen should be on every phone and laptop.
I think JB will be faster once someone gets all the bugs out and replaces some of the molasses with the butter they promised.
Here is a good review of the Infinity. AFAICT, the only thing it lags hardware wise is the iPad 3.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6036/asus-transformer-pad-infinity-tf700t-review
I love my Infinity. I wouldn't trade it for anything else.
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You can use a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse with any of these devices. If you need a stand alone USB port on the TF700, ASUS makes one. I don't think the ASUS keyboard is reason to select the Infinity over something else.
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True, but a bluetooth keyboard and/or the 30-pin->USB converter are nowhere *near* as convenient as the docking station. Plus, there is no extra battery that way, which is a huge benefit of the dock.
The keyboard dock is one of the features that really sets the Transformer series apart from other Android tablets - I think that it most certainly *is* a reason to chose the TF700 over something else.
I'm guessing that you don't have the dock?
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True, but a bluetooth keyboard and/or the 30-pin->USB converter are nowhere *near* as convenient as the docking station. Plus, there is no extra battery that way, which is a huge benefit of the dock.
The keyboard dock is one of the features that really sets the Transformer series apart from other Android tablets - I think that it most certainly *is* a reason to chose the TF700 over something else.
I'm guessing that you don't have the dock?
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I agree with this ^^^^^
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You can use a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse with any of these devices. If you need a stand alone USB port on the TF700, ASUS makes one. I don't think the ASUS keyboard is reason to select the Infinity over something else.
I love my Infinity. I wouldn't trade it for anything else.
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Keyboard dock with it's extra ports and added battery is a major thing. You can easily get a BT keyboard for your Note but it won't have the the Key features that sets the Asus Keyboard dock apart that the Transformer series is known for. It protects your screen as well
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The keyboard dock is one of the features that really sets the Transformer series apart from other Android tablets - I think that it most certainly *is* a reason to chose the TF700 over something else.
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Quoted for truth.
Thanks to everyone for your input. I read the mobiletech comparison of the infinity and note 10.1, which was in my opinion an unbiased review of the two tablets. But even as she did the review, a problem appeared on the Infinity (line on the screen). My heart leans toward the infinity because I used the prime and I like all the benefits of the keyboard dock. I am just worried that some people are returning the infinity just like it was done with the prime. I know software issues can resolved with updates so my worries lie mostly with hardware issues.
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Thanks to everyone for your input. I read the mobiletech comparison of the infinity and note 10.1, which was in my opinion an unbiased review of the two tablets. But even as she did the review, a problem appeared on the Infinity (line on the screen). My heart leans toward the infinity because I used the prime and I like all the benefits of the keyboard dock. I am just worried that some people are returning the infinity just like it was done with the prime. I know software issues can resolved with updates so my worries lie mostly with hardware issues.
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Honestly you will more then likely get swayed to not get the Infinity due to a few having a bad experience/issues with the Infinity or those that simply just enjoy the attention/drama. It's easy to get caught up in there issues and make you second guess yourself. I for one after seeing these negetive posts lately had made me second guessing myself, even though I have yet to find issues with my Infinity.
Go out and try it! Decide for yourself. Sometimes we are forced to come out of hiding to defend this great device from too much repetitive negetive postings. Also the Infinity is now running Jelly Bean 4.1.1 from the ICS that Lisa from Mobiltech review comparison video. A lot has changed since then... and it's definately even better.
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I agree with this ^^^^^
Keyboard dock with it's extra ports and added battery is a major thing. You can easily get a BT keyboard for your Note but it won't have the the Key features that sets the Asus Keyboard dock apart that the Transformer series is known for. It protects your screen as well
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These things have excellent battery life. I haven't seen any need for a larger battery and if I did, it charges through the USB port, which is very easy to set up and carry with me.
The reason I don't think the keyboard is necessary is because I don't use mine as a netbook. I have a netbook. My tablet is a tablet. I use it where a keyboard would be impractical, ie where I want a tablet.
I think these tablets are terrible netbooks. They don't multi task, their app selection is limited, JB is clunky, etc. Whenever I have work to do, I reach for my netbook.
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These things have excellent battery life. I haven't seen any need for a larger battery and if I did, it charges through the USB port, which is very easy to set up and carry with me.
The reason I don't think the keyboard is necessary is because I don't use mine as a netbook. I have a netbook. My tablet is a tablet. I use it where a keyboard would be impractical, ie where I want a tablet.
I think these tablets are terrible netbooks. They don't multi task, their app selection is limited, JB is clunky, etc. Whenever I have work to do, I reach for my netbook.
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Even if you dont use it as a netbook, you wouldnt want the extra battery life? That alone should warrant getting the dock. Just seems pointless to carry around a netbook and a tablet when you can just reduce it to one device....just saying
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I have both the infinity and note 10.1 along with a kindle fire with CM10. You will be happy with either the Asus or Samsung product. For everyday common web reading and ebook I gravitate to the 7" kindle over the larger 10.1" tablet. I do have the Asus keyboard dock and use it for testing apps.
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I say...
...if you can wait for it.
Dump all the Android tablet stuff and go for the Windows Surface.
I'm no expert in the tablet or Android world, yet something says go WinRT8.
I've stuck by my Infinity thru bad and good and I'm happy, but sadly not elated.
The Android Infinity is slowly coming ashore, yet it's really not anything ground breaking.
Good!...just not fantastic yet.
I was going to screw myself with a second high performance (in relative terms) Android tab.
However for me I'm going to jump on the Surface bandwagon.
I know a Windows touch tablet will make me mad, yet I've been pissed at Windows
since 1995 so we might as well continue with the hate\love Microslop thing.
Hope the rumored price of the Surface is true.
$499.00 for a 32 gig is fair I believe.
Anyhoo...whatever your decision be a happy Android!
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Hope the rumored price of the Surface is true.
$499.00 for a 32 gig is fair I believe.
Anyhoo...whatever your decision be a happy Android!
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The $499 for tablet alone is accurate. http://surface.microsoftstore.com/s...age.Surface?ESICaching=off&WT.mc_id=FY13WinHH
I would say the same thing as Thats OK. Windows 8 RT tablet is coming so soon, you should wait and at least get the sense of what people think about the tablet.
I jumped on Infinity because I really needed FHD and did not like Apple. Among the announced Win 8 tablet, there is only one that has Full HD level of screen resolution, which is Samsung Ativ Smart Pro, which is not RT but full Windows 8 tablet so the price is like $1100 and battery life is merely 5 hours. After reading these specs, I basically found myself in a spot (sort of by process of elimination).
Eventually, if the rumored Nexus 10 or perhaps Windows 8 as it evolves and comes up with better model, I may simply jump to it. With the pace of tablet evolving, I am assuming within next six months, there will be a device that is superior to anything out there in every aspect.
For now, each company and device put their own emphasis thus no device is truly superior to others (in my opinion)
Galaxy Note 10.1 - 2GB memory provides great multitasking on android, and its stability and speed is the best. S-pen and S-note experience is the closest to the real paper and pen experience. However, no Full HD and HD screen is just HD. Never as good as FHD.
Infinity - The best full HD screen android tablet. Speed is compatible to Galaxy Note in most cases. Keyboard dock is really great as it can be essentially used as portable battery charger if nothing else. Stability is not quite as high especially after the JB update, (at least for me) I get random white screen freeze, which I am hoping to have it get fixed but until then definite minus point. But its multitasking capability is not as the level of Galaxy Note 10.1.
Windows 8 RT - Don't know how much restriction there. But multitasking should be superior to that of any android as its Windows based. However, it probably will take time for its application market to develop as RT is not compatible with regular windows apps. Also, there is no FHD option, and all announced devices I believe are heavier than android counter parts.
Windows 8 Tablet - Full blown windows 8 tablet has a great potential but so far just as my old $2000 windows tablet suffered, battery, weight will be not as portable. Even xoom on my hand were felt heavy for prolonged use. Price will also be much higher like x2. However, it is real windows so you can essentially do everything that PC does (obviously not running high graphic games).
New Ipad - Full HD, great stability. But just so restrictive and basically no multitasking.
The problem with W8 tablets is kind of a Goldilocks thing.
1) Will RT be enough with the ability to only run "Modern" apps?
2) Are Atom-powered devices too little to run full Windows; especially HD video and games with high frame rates with no discrete GPU?
3) Are Pro devices which are as expensive as ultra and notebooks too much?
Here's what RT devices can and can't do:
Windows RT contains many of the same features as Windows 8:
Fluid, intuitive, and easy-to-use interface design that you can easily customize.
Built in apps like Mail, Calendar, Messaging, Photos, and SkyDrive with many more apps available in the Windows Store.
Internet Explorer 10, for fast, intuitive browsing.
Touch-enabled so you can interact with Windows in a whole new way.
Mouse and keyboard–enabled so you can be as productive as you need to be.
Windows RT also includes some different features:
Windows Update and Windows Defender are always on and up to date making your PC more secure.
Device encryption provides advanced data protection to help keep your information secure.
The PC can turn on instantly with connected standby.
Office Home & Student 2013 RT Preview is preinstalled.
Some features aren't included in Windows RT:
Windows Media Player
Windows Media Center
HomeGroup creation (you can join an existing HomeGroup but you can't create a new one)
Remote Desktop
Domain join
Although you can install apps directly from the Windows Store, you can't install apps on the desktop on Windows RT. Office Home and Student 2013 RT Preview Edition comes preinstalled, which provides you with touch-optimized desktop versions of the new Microsoft Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and OneNote.
You can only install printers, mice, keyboards, and other devices that are certified for Windows RT.
The problem with full-W8 tablets is that when using native apps that aren't touch optimized you need steady hands and a magnifying glass to interact with them because of the display resolution.
W8 tablets could be the next big thing or they could be a fail. Until (non-media) people have them in their hands and start using them to do the things they'd do on an Android tablet or iPad it's too early to call. The HP TouchPad was easy to use and intuitive but died because of its limitations and poor app availibility. If MS Office was so important to non-business users Android tablets and iPads wouldn't be selling as well as they are. So for consumers, Office as the W8 tablet's stand-out feature might not be that big of a draw. To me, $499 for the base Surface RT is way too much for a product in a 1.0 state competing with more mature products (and eco-systems) like iOS and Android. I guess time will tell.
There is a lot to consider in this decision and depends on what you want to do with the tab. I have the prime, infinity and note. (Yes, I am a tablet horder. I'll admit that now, lol) I personally like the Note and find myself using it over the Asus brands. Everything just works on the Note. And works the way it suppose to. Heck, I can't even stream Youtube or .mkv audio over my Asus tabs without the audio getting out of sync. (via Bluetooth Headphones). That is because Asus used some cheaper components in their tabs. Cheaper AzureWave Wifi radios and Cheap io Nand. Yes, the TF700 can stream a little better than the prime, but after awhile they get out of sync and pisses me off. The major thing the TF700 has over the Note is the HD display. The HD display is nice. But, honestly half the time I can't even tell the difference between the Note and TF700. I actually prefer the colors of the Note's PLS display. Plus, its a hit or miss that you will get a HD display that wont suffer from some sort of light bleed. Performance. Well, performance goes back and forth. The Note outshined the TF700 for awhile. But since the TF700 got JB its now seems a little faster than my note. (That is without some major tweaking and rom modifications.) But the Note has the TF700 beat on multitasking. I can't wait to see what the JB update to the Note will do.
Go to the store check them out m8. If the HD is something that is the winning factor and you could care less about BT crap then go for TF700. Buy one. Take it home. Play with it for awhile. Go back trade it in and get other. Make a decision that way. Because its really hard to come on here and ask us. Each of us do different things with the our tabs. Some enjoy some features more than others. That is why the best bet is just go to a store that has a really good return policy. That way you can play around and see what you like more.
I keep hearing ppl saying to wait for winRt instead of getting an android or iPad, and am curious as to what winRT can do that can't be done on an Android or Apple tablet? It was my understanding that winRT would be limited to windows phone esque apps and you would have to get a windows 8/pro for the full experience. I was excited about the Surface when it was announced because i thought i could use all the programs that I'm used too from previous versions of Windows, but that version of the Surface isnt coming out untill later this year right?
I just don't see Windows RT succeeding at the current price point without the legacy support. $250-$300 would be more reasonable IMO.
OP I've seen videos of the Note 10.1 in action and its great, but so is the infinty when it works. If u can hold off until next year, I think Samsung will be releasing a very high res tablet with potentially exynos 5 series cores. I'd get a nexus 7/nook tablet/fire HD while u wait.
I'm running Fedora 17 on a Dell Duo for notebook purposes and it absolutely rocks. Its totally stable, no bugs, surfs great, fast, multi tasking, etc. Its an amazing combination for a netbook. The only thing it doesn't have a lot of is video power. Its definitely not a gamer in that regard.
The Duo came with Vista. SSSLLLLOOOOWWW. Touch a link and wait and wait and wait. It didn't even surf well. Its outright fast with Fedora and Fedora is improving with every release. Its way faster surfing with the Duo than the Infinity. Firefox works way better on the Duo than it does on the Infinity.
KDE 4.9 is a really nice desktop and tools like Libre Office or whatever its called are pretty nice these days. I chuckle to myself every time I realize I have the power of Linux in such a small device.
I got my Infinity to see what I was missing in Android land and to get a tablet that I can read in a car or outside. The Duo screen is almost invisible in anything near daylight.
I'm impressed by the Infinity hardware. The screen rocks, the GPS is good, etc. I am not impressed with Android itself. Its a poor, poor cousin to Linux, for example.
I wouldn't own another tablet without the IPS+ screen. ASUS should be releasing the 600 and 810 models later this month and the 600 might have an 11.6" IPS+ screen on it. It will be running WIndows 8. I'd get a 600 in a heartbeat and put Linux on it. I might do that anyway and retire my Duo. I'll keep my Infinity for around the house and in the car purposes. Its so convenient for browsing, which is about all I ever use it for, right now at least.
My wife has a Sony laptop with Win 7 on it. Her laptop before that had Vista. As far as Windows goes, are you kidding me ? I totally fail to see the attraction. And I pay about $100 for that crap every time I buy a device and install Linux on it.