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[Q] Alternate OS?

hey guys
Has anybody tried putting a full OS on this device? like windows or ubuntu? is anybody willing to try? I would like to know if I get one of these if I can but ubuntu with its new unity ui on there.

I believe they need access to the kernel source code before something like this can be attempted.

I heard that is going to be released isn't it?

Thats what the word is! I'm very excited.

I'm like to be able to add some Linux utilities and functionality to the load. File check and the ability to use other file systems.

Windows is a no go. Tegra2 is an arm processor and Windows needs x86, thats why Moorestown is so interesting. In the meantime your best option is an Atom which has terrible battery life in comparison.
Ubuntu and maybe Phone7 are possible since they both have arm native versions.

Hey people, windows 7 or Linux???

I know this has nothing to do with phones but I want to know what minds on this forum think. Thanks!
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Linux, of course.
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I use Linux, Win7 and OSX depending on what I'm doing...but Linux is certainly my favorite, especially for development, and for phones!!! = : ]
By the way this should probably have gone into the off topic section (although I did just tie it back into phones!!!)

MrBultitude said:
I use Linux, Win7 and OSX depending on what I'm doing...but Linux is certainly my favorite, especially for development, and for phones!!! = : ]
By the way this should probably have gone into the off topic section (although I did just tie it back into phones!!!)
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Exactly what he said. I have a macbook pro,and through Vmware Fusion I use win7, Ubuntu and CentOS when I need them. I find CentOS to be the lightest and fastest Linux I've used although I haven't really tried alot of the other Linux images.
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I have installed both Linux (openSUSE) and Windows 7. I only need Windows if i need to run a Windows program which I can't run in Linux using wine, so I use Windows very, very seldom.

I also have both installed. it's a matter of what do you need. I only use Linux for software developing but, W7 is more "friendly" to the user..

windows 7 ....

Ihave windows 7 installed, and use a few different Linux live distro's for work and play.
Knoppix
Kubuntu
Ubuntu
UBCD
Gparted
Android X86

Ohschit said:
I know this has nothing to do with phones but I want to know what minds on this forum think. Thanks!
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I have both. I am primarily using Windows 7 until I can freaking get adb set up on Linux. The only thing I don't like about Linux is how almost everything is done through terminal.
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Waddle said:
I have both. I am primarily using Windows 7 until I can freaking get adb set up on Linux. The only thing I don't like about Linux is how almost everything is done through terminal.
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If you're scared of the terminal, then start off with beginner's Linux, Ubuntu. I'm not poking fun at you or anything, but my 14 year old sister uses Ubuntu. She prefers it over Windows. Linux isn't the ugly monster it once was. Personally, I use Windows 7 Pro x64 for work, and Mint Linux for personal use. I'm following the development on Haiku very closely, though.

I'm using linuxmint. I think it's easier to use linux with my android, especially to connect to it using adb and running root shell, because the terminal is the same.
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wow - all people so calm here
Where are the ****ing nerds - freaking out when the word windows even comes up? *lol*
Well I loved those question ever since - as u can't tell this in general at all.
- user friendlyness and hardware support:
still win7 since any hardware developer focuses on win drivers
even linux is a lot better now compared to former times (I still have some pieces of hardware wich are not or just half working)
-stability:
never had a bluescreen with win7 again, even some crappy hardware drivers still can affect it
linux stable anyway as long as u dont play around with the kernel
-networking
u got other win7 pc's at home or even use homegroups,... -> win7
(since ms changed something in the smb encryption in win7)
But the most important question is:
What are u doing with your computer?
e.g.
- Games:
defnitly Win7
- Programming:
in general -> Win7 or linux
.Net, VB, C#, Win Phone,... -> Win7 (as u won't find software for linux)
- surfing and all other stuff u want to do:
doesn't matter at all - beside some flash and silverlight functionality
- and what is most important!:
Do u need some programs like: Ableton Live, any Adobe, most CAD,...
Cause those will force you to win7
From my stand atm:
I tried linux again and again over the past 12 years now and each time I came back to win due to some missing applications or some malfunctioning hardware.
Anyway there are just a few things u can do with linux that u can't do with win7.
But there are several limitations on linux due to missing professional programs.
Even there is wine,... and dualboot and VM's
But as I hate to reboot I use Win7 as main operating system and linux in a VM (wich i barely use).
Actualy there are just 2 things I miss on my win7: fancy accelerated desktop, pulseaudio (for sound over ip)
Anyway:
From starting point. If somebody doesn't own a system yet and just want's to do basic stuff (office, surfing,..) or even some programing -> use linux as its free
If u then need some other fucntionality u need windows for -> go buy it

Well I'd say Linux, Ubuntu is a very good one to use and now you can use Gnome 3 with it which is just...so so good
What applications do you use on Windows? If you struggle after saying browser and Itunes, it's a no brainer. Also Antivirus doesn't count
If you use Office applications such as Word, Libre office is a great replacement and there are many add-ons you can install to improve the usability.
I Dual boot Ubuntu and Windows 7 and have OpenSuse, Mint, Backtrack and Fedora on live USB's and plan on having them on a separate laptop once I can afford it. If it wasn't for my study I wouldn't even use Windows 7
Oh and you can save some cash!

Hey guys,
just wondering if I installed Linux can I switch back to Windows 7 easily or not? Also will programs such as Adobe software, iTunes, uTorrent and Microsoft Office work fine?
Thanks

Windows 7...Direct X.

CurtisAndroid5 said:
Hey guys,
just wondering if I installed Linux can I switch back to Windows 7 easily or not? Also will programs such as Adobe software, iTunes, uTorrent and Microsoft Office work fine?
Thanks
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Yes you can it's quite simple. You may want to Dual boot though, which is very simple and Ubuntu is one of the best for this (By this I mean the guide it gives you while doing it, mainly yes, and no questions)
Although the software will pose a problem, you will need to find alternatives for Itunes you have banshee inbuilt into Ubuntu, as well as Libre office and there is a download for torrent on Linux and there are multiple alternatives. As for Adobe software which do you mean? GIMP is a good alternative to Photoshop and you can download a flash plugin to view flash.

For me, its LinuxMint Debian Edition (With Gnome3) on my main laptop. I have been Windows Free for 5 years and loving it

Amosela said:
Yes you can it's quite simple. You may want to Dual boot though, which is very simple and Ubuntu is one of the best for this (By this I mean the guide it gives you while doing it, mainly yes, and no questions)
Although the software will pose a problem, you will need to find alternatives for Itunes you have banshee inbuilt into Ubuntu, as well as Libre office and there is a download for torrent on Linux and there are multiple alternatives. As for Adobe software which do you mean? GIMP is a good alternative to Photoshop and you can download a flash plugin to view flash.
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Thanks for the informative reply.
I meant as in Adobe Master Collection (Photoshop, Illustrator, Premier Pro etc). I'm familiar with GIMP, it's how I first got into graphic-design! I'll definitely do some reading up on Ubuntu and Linux in general.
Thanks a bunch.

CurtisAndroid5 said:
Thanks for the informative reply.
I meant as in Adobe Master Collection (Photoshop, Illustrator, Premier Pro etc). I'm familiar with GIMP, it's how I first got into graphic-design! I'll definitely do some reading up on Ubuntu and Linux in general.
Thanks a bunch.
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Glad I can help.
Unsure about alternatives on the others, some research into it should have some promising alternatives. Glad your familiar with GIMP!
Good luck I hope everything goes well.
Once again glad I can help.

surfer2.3 said:
Windows 7...Direct X.
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Direct X is one of the worst things about Windows.
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[Q] Optimizing Ubuntu Performance

So I have had Ubunutu installed on my tablet for a few good months now and love it. It actually works so well that I sold my macbook and now only use this. I have been trying to improve the speed of this thing and was hoping that some of you might have some insight.
I have been using Xfce instead of gnome or Unity because its faster but the keyboard shortcut keys (brightness, sounds, etc.) no longer work. Is there a way to fix this or is there a better working alternative.
I have also heard people mention they updated to 12.04. Are there any performance or interface improvements?

yes very good idea, i just started using ubuntu myself..any insight from a veteran on performane tips or programs will be wonderful.

I just finished reading through the other Q&A thread and several people mentioned that updating to 12.04 fixed the battery display. I think its worth updating and just seeing what happens.
As for different enviorments, I have run unity, gnome, xfce, and lxde. Gnome classic was nice but I found xfce to be the best compromise between performance and features.
I am interested in running chrome so I would like to get hardware acceleration working. I have been reading over what lilstevie has written but its not clear if I need to use uboot to use the cros. If that is the case does uboot only work with linux or can it be used to launch the android as well?

CaffeineHead said:
I just finished reading through the other Q&A thread and several people mentioned that updating to 12.04 fixed the battery display. I think its worth updating and just seeing what happens.
As for different enviorments, I have run unity, gnome, xfce, and lxde. Gnome classic was nice but I found xfce to be the best compromise between performance and features.
I am interested in running chrome so I would like to get hardware acceleration working. I have been reading over what lilstevie has written but its not clear if I need to use uboot to use the cros. If that is the case does uboot only work with linux or can it be used to launch the android as well?
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Hmm, I'd been dualbooting stevie's work for a while. I believe he had partial (very partial) acceleration using the CrOS kernel.. not the OS. I believe uboot was linux only though, I had never gone that far. However, I'm unsure of what's changed, I've been locked up in studies the past few months. I had been pleased with a tweaked gnome classic build for a while but I took a break to try paulburton's ICS preview.

CaffeineHead said:
I am interested in running chrome so I would like to get hardware acceleration working. I have been reading over what lilstevie has written but its not clear if I need to use uboot to use the cros. If that is the case does uboot only work with linux or can it be used to launch the android as well?
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Google does NOT release Linux builds of Chrome for this processor architecture, so it is impossible to use Chrome on the Transformer without emulation or using Chrome for Android (ICS only) beta. The open source Chromium browser is available and is not Google Chrome.
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Hello,
My flavor of Ubuntu being slow as hell, i would like to use Xfce as a WM. I tried to install it via the GUI and the command line, but no success at all. No package on the repositories (I enabled all of them).
Can you explain me how you installed xfce?
Thanks in advance and forgive my poor english.

So, considering the TF is ARM, what exactly can you do on Linux on the TF? Id imagine a lot of programs wont work properly..?

Goatshocker said:
So, considering the TF is ARM, what exactly can you do on Linux on the TF? Id imagine a lot of programs wont work properly..?
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It's no great deal, browsing, writing, learning japanese... when i think about it, i would nearly get rid of X...

for it to work fast you need 3D support that will come soon , i dont know if lxde has gles support but any gui on tf with linux needs GLES support to make it fast , this will reder in OpenGL-ES (tf does not have OpenGL !!!!)
Unity does not YET have gles support it will, its in dev.
kde has gles but never tryed it.( you stil need a kernel with the 3D support )

Thank you for this precious information. Maybe should I try to make an image of another distro...

[Q] Win XP on Transformer prime

Hi
I've seen a few threads about running win 95 and even win 98 on certain android devices.
What l was wondering was is it possible to run win xp on a high powered device such as the transformer prime?
I've heard that some people have done it on HTC Evo, but haven't heard or sen any transformer / tegra based tablets doing the same thing...
Now I'm no programmer / coder of any sorts so my understanding in this field is somewhat basic.
In short l was wondering has anyone attempted / succeeded?
I truly apologise if there is a thread about this somewhere already. I've been browsing the web, but not much luck in finding user friendly info.
don't hate me for beeing a noob...
Kind regards
DeboX

There are different facets to this:
1) Native (installing beside/over android) - this isn't possible as Windows XP or Vista or 7 have not been released for the ARM architecture (which is what most android devices, including tegra are). However, windows has said that they are releasing Windows 8 for ARM, so it might be possible to install that natively on the Transformer.
2) Virtualized - this could be possible, you'd just need something like Virtualbox, but for android that would allow you to create/host virtual machines. I currently don't know of anything that will allow you to do this with XP, and the ones that let you run 95/98 are painfully slow, even on the transformer / prime
3) splashtop - this might be your best bet, get Virtualbox on one of your desktop/laptops and install XP on that, then install Splashtop on the virtual machine. You can then either use ASUS MyCloud of Splashtop Remote HD to access it, and it will even reroute audio from the VM to the tablet. This is what i do for Win 7
hope this helps

Well, l have seen a few projects using boch and QEMU to setup a vm centred around win 98 and heard of one that is trying to setup xp, but performance is a question.
The splashtop idea is good, but it requires internet access , which is an issue....

DeBoX said:
The splashtop idea is good, but it requires internet access , which is an issue....
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Yeah, forgot to mention that
Splashtop is what i use though... I use it to watch blurays on my TF101, works like a charm, even from the other side of the world though

Evo 3D owners most likely lucked out in terms of the proprietary graphics tech behind the screen matching up with the XP spec. Windows bears no direct relation to Android or Linux, as such there's more that needs to be rendered independent of the CPU. XORG, the main window rendering component of most linux UIs, is able to piggyback off the usual Terminal Emulator in Android. While the Evo 3D/Milestone 2 Global Windows exploit is pretty great in the eyes of this DOS nerd, it's not the only way. I routinely run Backtrack5 (Ubuntu based :angel and I've made some progress getting WINE terminal up and running therein, so EXEs and MSIs shouldn't be far behind.

Chroot ubuntu on android device - brainstorm

Okay so basically, if you check out www.androlinux.com or search for youtube for ZedoMax, the guy has hacked ubuntu onto android.
I followed his instructions to a point, had to use rootstock to create a lucid kernel though (for lts). He provides four scripts, another file and an .IMG - I made mine.
Basically, documentation issues + a linux noob mean I cant find all the files it created on my phone, kill em all, and try again.
If somebody could take a look at the scripts and let me know what they think, I would be wholly appreciative!!
Also if anyone knows of a workaround to viewing the GUI over vnc thatd be awesome too!
Ps I know of the official version.. Thats not the solution im looking for.. As you can run apps directly in ubuntu im thinking of an interface app for it but thats another days tasking.
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Some of the ported games use SDL for the Interface, maybe that is a way?

I'll bear this in mind - my Coursework atm is modding IOQuake3 Thanks dude