I know this has nothing to do with phones but I want to know what minds on this forum think. Thanks!
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Linux, of course.
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I use Linux, Win7 and OSX depending on what I'm doing...but Linux is certainly my favorite, especially for development, and for phones!!! = : ]
By the way this should probably have gone into the off topic section (although I did just tie it back into phones!!!)
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I use Linux, Win7 and OSX depending on what I'm doing...but Linux is certainly my favorite, especially for development, and for phones!!! = : ]
By the way this should probably have gone into the off topic section (although I did just tie it back into phones!!!)
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Exactly what he said. I have a macbook pro,and through Vmware Fusion I use win7, Ubuntu and CentOS when I need them. I find CentOS to be the lightest and fastest Linux I've used although I haven't really tried alot of the other Linux images.
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I have installed both Linux (openSUSE) and Windows 7. I only need Windows if i need to run a Windows program which I can't run in Linux using wine, so I use Windows very, very seldom.
I also have both installed. it's a matter of what do you need. I only use Linux for software developing but, W7 is more "friendly" to the user..
windows 7 ....
Ihave windows 7 installed, and use a few different Linux live distro's for work and play.
Knoppix
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I have both. I am primarily using Windows 7 until I can freaking get adb set up on Linux. The only thing I don't like about Linux is how almost everything is done through terminal.
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Waddle said:
I have both. I am primarily using Windows 7 until I can freaking get adb set up on Linux. The only thing I don't like about Linux is how almost everything is done through terminal.
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If you're scared of the terminal, then start off with beginner's Linux, Ubuntu. I'm not poking fun at you or anything, but my 14 year old sister uses Ubuntu. She prefers it over Windows. Linux isn't the ugly monster it once was. Personally, I use Windows 7 Pro x64 for work, and Mint Linux for personal use. I'm following the development on Haiku very closely, though.
I'm using linuxmint. I think it's easier to use linux with my android, especially to connect to it using adb and running root shell, because the terminal is the same.
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wow - all people so calm here
Where are the ****ing nerds - freaking out when the word windows even comes up? *lol*
Well I loved those question ever since - as u can't tell this in general at all.
- user friendlyness and hardware support:
still win7 since any hardware developer focuses on win drivers
even linux is a lot better now compared to former times (I still have some pieces of hardware wich are not or just half working)
-stability:
never had a bluescreen with win7 again, even some crappy hardware drivers still can affect it
linux stable anyway as long as u dont play around with the kernel
-networking
u got other win7 pc's at home or even use homegroups,... -> win7
(since ms changed something in the smb encryption in win7)
But the most important question is:
What are u doing with your computer?
e.g.
- Games:
defnitly Win7
- Programming:
in general -> Win7 or linux
.Net, VB, C#, Win Phone,... -> Win7 (as u won't find software for linux)
- surfing and all other stuff u want to do:
doesn't matter at all - beside some flash and silverlight functionality
- and what is most important!:
Do u need some programs like: Ableton Live, any Adobe, most CAD,...
Cause those will force you to win7
From my stand atm:
I tried linux again and again over the past 12 years now and each time I came back to win due to some missing applications or some malfunctioning hardware.
Anyway there are just a few things u can do with linux that u can't do with win7.
But there are several limitations on linux due to missing professional programs.
Even there is wine,... and dualboot and VM's
But as I hate to reboot I use Win7 as main operating system and linux in a VM (wich i barely use).
Actualy there are just 2 things I miss on my win7: fancy accelerated desktop, pulseaudio (for sound over ip)
Anyway:
From starting point. If somebody doesn't own a system yet and just want's to do basic stuff (office, surfing,..) or even some programing -> use linux as its free
If u then need some other fucntionality u need windows for -> go buy it
Well I'd say Linux, Ubuntu is a very good one to use and now you can use Gnome 3 with it which is just...so so good
What applications do you use on Windows? If you struggle after saying browser and Itunes, it's a no brainer. Also Antivirus doesn't count
If you use Office applications such as Word, Libre office is a great replacement and there are many add-ons you can install to improve the usability.
I Dual boot Ubuntu and Windows 7 and have OpenSuse, Mint, Backtrack and Fedora on live USB's and plan on having them on a separate laptop once I can afford it. If it wasn't for my study I wouldn't even use Windows 7
Oh and you can save some cash!
Hey guys,
just wondering if I installed Linux can I switch back to Windows 7 easily or not? Also will programs such as Adobe software, iTunes, uTorrent and Microsoft Office work fine?
Thanks
Windows 7...Direct X.
CurtisAndroid5 said:
Hey guys,
just wondering if I installed Linux can I switch back to Windows 7 easily or not? Also will programs such as Adobe software, iTunes, uTorrent and Microsoft Office work fine?
Thanks
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Yes you can it's quite simple. You may want to Dual boot though, which is very simple and Ubuntu is one of the best for this (By this I mean the guide it gives you while doing it, mainly yes, and no questions)
Although the software will pose a problem, you will need to find alternatives for Itunes you have banshee inbuilt into Ubuntu, as well as Libre office and there is a download for torrent on Linux and there are multiple alternatives. As for Adobe software which do you mean? GIMP is a good alternative to Photoshop and you can download a flash plugin to view flash.
For me, its LinuxMint Debian Edition (With Gnome3) on my main laptop. I have been Windows Free for 5 years and loving it
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Yes you can it's quite simple. You may want to Dual boot though, which is very simple and Ubuntu is one of the best for this (By this I mean the guide it gives you while doing it, mainly yes, and no questions)
Although the software will pose a problem, you will need to find alternatives for Itunes you have banshee inbuilt into Ubuntu, as well as Libre office and there is a download for torrent on Linux and there are multiple alternatives. As for Adobe software which do you mean? GIMP is a good alternative to Photoshop and you can download a flash plugin to view flash.
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Thanks for the informative reply.
I meant as in Adobe Master Collection (Photoshop, Illustrator, Premier Pro etc). I'm familiar with GIMP, it's how I first got into graphic-design! I'll definitely do some reading up on Ubuntu and Linux in general.
Thanks a bunch.
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Thanks for the informative reply.
I meant as in Adobe Master Collection (Photoshop, Illustrator, Premier Pro etc). I'm familiar with GIMP, it's how I first got into graphic-design! I'll definitely do some reading up on Ubuntu and Linux in general.
Thanks a bunch.
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Glad I can help.
Unsure about alternatives on the others, some research into it should have some promising alternatives. Glad your familiar with GIMP!
Good luck I hope everything goes well.
Once again glad I can help.
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Windows 7...Direct X.
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Direct X is one of the worst things about Windows.
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I want to start development of roms and apps for android phones and tablets. But I'm in the market for a new computer considering the one I have is issued to me through work and I don't want to run it down with extra drivers and such. What kind of machine do I want/need? Will a laptop suffice? Desktop preferred? And then after that point, what programs are out there to kick start the dev process? Thank you ahead of time for your responses. XDA forever!
Well, if you get a laptop, you're not chained to a desk, and Linux is basically the father of Android, so I would recommend a laptop with a disc drive, and installing a GNOME-based distro of Linux (such as Ubuntu or Linux Mint). If you need to, you can always dual-boot with Windows.
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The Android SDK can be downloaded here
http://developer.android.com/index.html
Versions exist for Windows, Mac and Linux, but as mentioned above it will probably be a little less hassle under a Linux distro, and also it is gratis! There are loads of samples and tutorials on the above site.
Thanks guys. I didn't think anyone would ever reply to this after awhile. I've wiped my old Toshiba and installed Windows 7 Ultimate for now. But I've been toying with the idea of running Ubuntu.
I've been reading up on this subject ... I really want to try Ubuntu but I hear it has major bugs ...which on in y'all opinions do you prefer and why?
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i recocmend u try a dual boot its actually really easy if u follow the instructions.
i installed ubu about 3weeks ago and i love it because u can customize it to no end and it really dosnt have that many bugs.
i installed inside of windows and did a 20gig partition so its defiantly not my daily, but its still fun to mess around with.
and if you need help with the installation feel free to pm me.
You can try the live image, to test if it suits your purpose. Also, you can use virtual machine to install ubuntu with Windows to test it.
Id reccomend the liveCD or as mentioned running in a virtual machine if your pc can handle it.
This will allow you to explore Ubuntu without any major bugs or chances of wiping your hard drive
Personally i prefer Windows for a development environment, but Ubuntu has its advantages.
I suggest you to choose windows, the best ever, ubuntu is good but not like windows
I have test Linux one times per Year. I will never love it. I use Windows since 3.1. Linux/Ubuntu is not Windows. If you know how windows work use this.
Tri boot OSX Lion, Arch Linux, and Windows 7.
Ubuntu is bloated, and Unity is TERRIBLE.
actually ive been hearing really good things about linux mint isadora its pretty much the same as ubu but has a cleaner overlay and more user freindly.
arch linux just has way more repositorys than ubu and arch linux is more complicated to install.
man the geek radar just went off the charts with that one lmao.
I'm standing at the edge on this one as well. I really like the way Ubuntu looks and how it operates, I'm just not 100% sold yet.
it is what it is, its a love hate relationship with me i love the open source like android but i hate how it looks.
i would definitely recommend running it in virtual machine to try it first before you do any hdd partitions.
if you like mac youll probably like linux since mac is pretty much linux on steroids lol.
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actually ive been hearing really good things about linux mint isadora its pretty much the same as ubu but has a cleaner overlay and more user freindly.
arch linux just has way more repositorys than ubu and arch linux is more complicated to install.
man the geek radar just went off the charts with that one lmao.
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LinuxMint is based off of Ubuntu, but, is much more user-friendly for beginner Linux users (comes will all codecs and what not pre-installed, saves having to play around with the Package Manager, etc).
With Linux, there are several different desktop environments. KDE, is the Windows look-a-like, so, choose a KDE version if you prefer and are used to the Windows layout.
I suggest to the OP to go to http://www.linuxmint.com/download.php and download the DVD edition. Burn it to a blank DVD disc, put it into the computer and restart, and start trialling Linux from there (yes, it's that simple). To get the best of both worlds, dual boot (we can help you with that if you're having difficulty ).
It's entirely up to you though. There are advantages and there are disadvantages for choosing one over another. But, there is a learning curve to Linux. It isn't like Windows and you'll just be asking yourself for a recipe for disaster if you just go straight in and expect it to be the same.
man i almost crapped myself the first time i installed ubu i did it without anyones help and the first time i did it i did what u said and restarted with the dvd then hit escape for options then somehow crashed my system it seriously took 2hrs for my computer to restore its self after that one but thankfully it did. once it fully booted again i just popped the dvd into the tray and ran wubi installer on my desktop and i was done in about 5min i was seriously punching myself on that one lol.
also if u dont have any blank dvds laying around im pretty sure you can use daemon tools to mount the iso if your installing inside windows like i did.
If you have to ask then I suggest Windows 7 (if you have sufficient hardware). If you're interested in getting to know Linux then Ubuntu, Mint or any other variation of Ubuntu would be best. Granted there are better distros out there but they require a fair bit of knowledge.
Someone suggested Arch to a noob!?! Why not Slackware??
I'm running Lubuntu on an old machine only because XP is too heavy for it. Bottom line as a Desktop I still like Windows (let the hazing begin...)
heres kde or kubuntu in action.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyEx3hVTGDk&feature=related
and heres ubu in action
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFCnNs8jbgw
both are not my videos fyi
just out of curiosity has anyone got tethering to work on ubu 11.0.4 because for me itll recognize the ssid but will never connect to it usb tether works fine though.
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Id reccomend the liveCD or as mentioned running in a virtual machine if your pc can handle it.
This will allow you to explore Ubuntu without any major bugs or chances of wiping your hard drive
Personally i prefer Windows for a development environment, but Ubuntu has its advantages.
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Hi, everyone has his/her own taste of OSs (and any other things ), so I suggest you should answer by yourself.
In my oppinion, there no bug in Ubuntu. One difficult thing when using Ubuntu is: it cannot run our Windows software (for instance: MS Office, IDM, WinRar, etc)
You can try Ubuntu by use Live CD (download from ubuntu.com) or install it in dual mode. This way you can use Ubuntu w/u effecting your Win 7.
Enjoy.
I think window 7 is really good. Relatively easy to operate.
for common use windows,
for developing, ubuntu
Hi
I've seen a few threads about running win 95 and even win 98 on certain android devices.
What l was wondering was is it possible to run win xp on a high powered device such as the transformer prime?
I've heard that some people have done it on HTC Evo, but haven't heard or sen any transformer / tegra based tablets doing the same thing...
Now I'm no programmer / coder of any sorts so my understanding in this field is somewhat basic.
In short l was wondering has anyone attempted / succeeded?
I truly apologise if there is a thread about this somewhere already. I've been browsing the web, but not much luck in finding user friendly info.
don't hate me for beeing a noob...
Kind regards
DeboX
There are different facets to this:
1) Native (installing beside/over android) - this isn't possible as Windows XP or Vista or 7 have not been released for the ARM architecture (which is what most android devices, including tegra are). However, windows has said that they are releasing Windows 8 for ARM, so it might be possible to install that natively on the Transformer.
2) Virtualized - this could be possible, you'd just need something like Virtualbox, but for android that would allow you to create/host virtual machines. I currently don't know of anything that will allow you to do this with XP, and the ones that let you run 95/98 are painfully slow, even on the transformer / prime
3) splashtop - this might be your best bet, get Virtualbox on one of your desktop/laptops and install XP on that, then install Splashtop on the virtual machine. You can then either use ASUS MyCloud of Splashtop Remote HD to access it, and it will even reroute audio from the VM to the tablet. This is what i do for Win 7
hope this helps
Well, l have seen a few projects using boch and QEMU to setup a vm centred around win 98 and heard of one that is trying to setup xp, but performance is a question.
The splashtop idea is good, but it requires internet access , which is an issue....
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The splashtop idea is good, but it requires internet access , which is an issue....
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Yeah, forgot to mention that
Splashtop is what i use though... I use it to watch blurays on my TF101, works like a charm, even from the other side of the world though
Evo 3D owners most likely lucked out in terms of the proprietary graphics tech behind the screen matching up with the XP spec. Windows bears no direct relation to Android or Linux, as such there's more that needs to be rendered independent of the CPU. XORG, the main window rendering component of most linux UIs, is able to piggyback off the usual Terminal Emulator in Android. While the Evo 3D/Milestone 2 Global Windows exploit is pretty great in the eyes of this DOS nerd, it's not the only way. I routinely run Backtrack5 (Ubuntu based :angel and I've made some progress getting WINE terminal up and running therein, so EXEs and MSIs shouldn't be far behind.
Hi I'm farely new to xda (over on the Rezound forums mostly). Just recently I've been looking into tablets since my laptop died. My friend has this tablet and from what I've seen and read it's a good buy. Since im replacing my laptop with this I'd need to be able to run exe files. Is it possible to root and mod this to be able to run exe files? Or not since this a an android device? Sorry if this is a basic question again I'm new here. Thanks for help in advance
hmmmm, i dont think thats possible. Unless you install a different OS on it. But with pure android OS, i dont think so. EXE is kind of windows specific. But, what app are you trying to install using an EXE file? Im pretty sure there is an android equivelant for the app.
May have problems with it as exe is a program compiled for x86/x64, not ARM. Same reason why Windows RT & Pro aren't the same. Pro runs on x64 and can run normal exe's. RT runs on ARM and can't run native windows programs.
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May have problems with it as exe is a program compiled for x86/x64, not ARM.
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And even if it was compiled for ARM, it won't run on Android. EXE is an Windows executable and depends on the Windows runtime libraries.
It would be nice to see someone developer a full blown version of Wine for Android, or if companies like Codeweavers can make CrossOver for Android to allow the use of .exe Windows applications.
I know this is not impossible and very possible if Android is really just a Google controlled version of Linux.
My first and only paid $ purchase of Linux was Xandros 2.0 desktop OS, and one of that OS main selling features was that it had Crossover integrated into it. I could download .exe's and install them on Xandros and run Windows apps. :laugh:
You're looking at two different processor architectures on two different operating systems. You would need a whole lot more than just a crossover/wine for Android. Consider purchasing the Asus Vivo Tab (not the Vivo Tab RT) if you have to run .NET/win32/WinRT executables. Also consider if android has equivalent apps that suit your needs. What kind of Windows programs do you use?
Update:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.max2idea.android.limbo.main&hl=en
If you ran this, installed Trinux on it and ran wine/crossover (provided they even support Trinux) you MIGHT have a chance at running windows apps. But it will likely be insanely slow.
The other option is to buy a new server, install Windows Server 2008/Server 2008 R2, buy a router that supports VPN, get a really good internet service (preferably with symmetrical data rates), buy the XTraLogic RDP app for android, tunnel into your VPN from your android device, set up terminal services on Windows Server, buy one Terminal Services Client Access License, configure RemoteApp in terminal services and run the apps using XTraLogic RDP on your android from your windows server. You would have to keep the server running 24/7.
My point being, even if you could pull this off, it would be incredibly impractical. Consider alternatives, like equivalent apps for Android or an X86 tablet.
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What system do you use and why? Windows, Mac or Linux?
If you use Linux, which distro and why?
I'm currenly running Ubuntu 16.04 and I may go to Linux Mint soon.
MacOs sierra for simplicity and security
Prosis said:
What system do you use and why? Windows, Mac or Linux?
If you use Linux, which distro and why?
I'm currenly running Ubuntu 16.04 and I may go to Linux Mint soon.
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I use OSX, I like a *nix environment but I'm old enough to remember when getting linux working on certain hardware configurations was a nightmare, particularly networking on notebooks. OSX just works.
I do use linux for certain tasks, previously I maintained a linux box in my closet for them, however now many of them I've moved to a raspberry pi I keep connected to my mac pro (ie libUsb sucks on OSX, I use a pi as a libusb box).
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I use OSX, I like a *nix environment but I'm old enough to remember when getting linux working on certain hardware configurations was a nightmare, particularly networking on notebooks. OSX just works.
I do use linux for certain tasks, previously I maintained a linux box in my closet for them, however now many of them I've moved to a raspberry pi I keep connected to my mac pro (ie libUsb sucks on OSX, I use a pi as a libusb box).
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Yeah I completely get that. Plus OS X (or MacOS now) is just beautiful. I've never been able to get my head around the way the windows are managed on Mac with the dock. Ubuntu is a bit of a middle ground between Mac OS and Windows in that respect (in that respect only).
Ubuntu/LinuxMint and other Ubuntu based distros are quite easy to install nowadays. I know they were harder before (which is why I never migrated for good before last year).
Both Windows 10 and many linux distros.
Windows for the daily use, it is simple, it has driver and works pretty good.
Linux for programming, at the moment with Backbox.
I tried many linux distros, and i would never recommend Mint, it had many problems with my hardware.
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Both Windows 10 and many linux distros.
Windows for the daily use, it is simple, it has driver and works pretty good.
Linux for programming, at the moment with Backbox.
I tried many linux distros, and i would never recommend Mint, it had many problems with my hardware.
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Really? I never did. Then again I have a laptop so maybe you have more specific hardware that I don't have.
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Really? I never did. Then again I have a laptop so maybe you have more specific hardware that I don't have.
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I was using a netbook with all amd components. When i installed Mint first time it was quite unstable for my hardware that still now gives me problems with some distros, but Ubuntu seems to work fine last years, so i'm sure they improved the performances since Mint is based on Ubuntu
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What system do you use and why? Windows, Mac or Linux?
If you use Linux, which distro and why?
I'm currenly running Ubuntu 16.04 and I may go to Linux Mint soon.
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Easy, Mac if you don't care about anything but watching movies and using facebook. Linux if you are paranoid about microsoft. Windows for everything else
I am using microsoft windows 7 and i am happy with it.Never gave single problem ,running smoothly both hardware and software.Mac is new ,everything is different but like to learn and operate it.Linux dont want to touch it.
Use both windows and linux ..... Linux has alot of built in programs for programming if you partition your hd you can use a slackware linux and a windows on the same pc