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after consideration might return my ipad for it

Ok, I took the time to sit down and write down my experience with both iOS and android so hopefully this will help.
When I had my ipod touch 4th generation.
I used it mostly for music and browsing
Loved to watch movies on it because of its retina display
Played games occasionally when I wasn't home and had nothing to do or had to wait for something.
That was pretty much all I did with iPod touch
Now my EVO 4G
I use it for mainly for music and browsing
I use it for movies
I did install some emulators had alot of fun with those for about 2 weeks... might be useful when i'm bored
had a custom rom CM7 on gingerbread, got very buggy over time, lots of crashes. However just flashed to an unofficial jellybean rom, i've been liking it but I tend to with most new roms due to the novelty factor.
As you can see, I don't really use that many apps. In some aspects I feel like some of the app store stuff is useless( what possibly could you need besides a browser, video player, a few games to keep you busy)
I however do need splashtop 2 so I can remote use my computer for CAD and PDF annotation. This has been on the ipad and was just released for android a couple of days ago. Because I need to be able to write with a stylus, is the asus tf700s digitizer accurate? I heard the prime had a terrible digitizer that made writing with a stylus impossible.
I would also like to have a good pdf annotator on the os itself for ebooks and such, and a good notetaking app.
I will say this now, if the asus had the same aspect ratio as the iPad and if the production consistency wasn't so finicky i probably would have gone for it in an instant, but because it's not, I still have a hard time deciding.
so this is the main decider: If the digitizer is accurate and I can be guaranteed a model with no flaws within one to two returns... then i will get it.

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uwotm8 said:
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>bumping
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Lets go, 4chan is this way.

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>bumping
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Lets go, 4chan is this way.
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uwotm8 said:
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Makes me sad OS war starters like you browse 4chan.

jdeoxys said:
Makes me sad OS war starters like you browse 4chan.
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nope, not a 4chaner... and I wasn't trying to start an OS war... you guys turned it into one... I'm planning on getting the infinity anyways.

uwotm8 said:
nope, not a 4chaner... and I wasn't trying to start an OS war... you guys turned it into one... I'm planning on getting the infinity anyways.
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Ill give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're not trolling. The digitizer on the infinity is extremely sensitive and accurate. I've compared to to a friends ipad 2 and the infinity's sensitivity and accuracy far outstrips the ipad. Also, for splashtop, the infinity is better as well because the 8:5 aspect ratio means you can maximize screen space if you have the most common 1920x1080 resolution while still being able to see the navbar. Movies also look better on the infinity because there aren't black bars and there is no upscaling from 1920 to 2048. As for quality control, I can't say because I've only got one infinity and its perfect.

uwotm8 said:
I however do need splashtop 2 so I can remote use my computer for CAD and PDF annotation. This has been on the ipad and was just released for android a couple of days ago. Because I need to be able to write with a stylus, is the asus tf700s digitizer accurate? I heard the prime had a terrible digitizer that made writing with a stylus impossible.
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Actually Splashtop Thd and Splashtop HD has been out for android for a few months now. I have the THD version. Its pretty solid you can even play PC games with it.
The digitizer is pretty solid on the Infinity. When I had the Prime it was terrible I couldn't make a circle without it looking like cube! Its night and day with the infinity.
uwotm8 said:
I would also like to have a good pdf annotator on the os itself for ebooks and such, and a good notetaking app.
so this is the main decider: If the digitizer is accurate and I can be guaranteed a model with no flaws within one to two returns... then i will get it.
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There are plenty of apps for this as well. You would be much happier with this tablet. Its almost a laptop replacement imo
Brought to you by my Asus Transformer Pad Infinity TF700T

jdeoxys said:
Ill give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're not trolling. The digitizer on the infinity is extremely sensitive and accurate. I've compared to to a friends ipad 2 and the infinity's sensitivity and accuracy far outstrips the ipad. Also, for splashtop, the infinity is better as well because the 8:5 aspect ratio means you can maximize screen space if you have the most common 1920x1080 resolution while still being able to see the navbar. Movies also look better on the infinity because there aren't black bars and there is no upscaling from 1920 to 2048. As for quality control, I can't say because I've only got one infinity and its perfect.
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alright, thanks alot man!
jjdevega said:
Actually Splashtop Thd and Splashtop HD has been out for android for a few months now. I have the THD version. Its pretty solid you can even play PC games with it.
The digitizer is pretty solid on the Infinity. When I had the Prime it was terrible I couldn't make a circle without it looking like cube! Its night and day with the infinity.
There are plenty of apps for this as well. You would be much happier with this tablet. Its almost a laptop replacement imo
Brought to you by my Asus Transformer Pad Infinity TF700T
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yup, I just needed to know that the digitizer is accurate on this thanks!
so 32gb is the smarter buy since i can always get an sd card?
And what problems should I check for as soon as i get it?
1.light bleed
2. green camera issue
3. bad battery?

uwotm8 said:
alright, thanks alot man!
yup, I just needed to know that the digitizer is accurate on this thanks!
so 32gb is the smarter buy since i can always get an sd card?
And what problems should I check for as soon as i get it?
1.light bleed
2. green camera issue
3. bad battery?
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Yes 32gb version is plenty since you can expand that pretty easily with external micro sd and if you go for the dock as well it will add another full size SD slot. Then you have your portable drives.
*On boot up check for light bleed. If you can live with what you see check that off. You won't see it during normal operations anyways.
*then go through the motions.
-Check cameras
-Check Haptic feedback
-Battery drain (amount of heat)
-Check to see if screen is separating.
-Check overall build quality
- It should want to update firmware once your on the home screen.
Brought to you by my Asus Transformer Pad Infinity TF700T

jjdevega said:
Yes 32gb version is plenty since you can expand that pretty easily with external micro sd and if you go for the dock as well it will add another full size SD slot. Then you have your portable drives.
*On boot up check for light bleed. If you can live with what you see check that off. You won't see it during normal operations anyways.
*then go through the motions.
-Check cameras
-Check Haptic feedback
-Battery drain (amount of heat)
-Check to see if screen is separating.
-Check overall build quality
- It should want to update firmware once your on the home screen.
Brought to you by my Asus Transformer Pad Infinity TF700T
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ok so even if i get light bleed? i wont notice it/ its only on the black screen?
what do i check when I drain the battery?

uwotm8 said:
ok so even if i get light bleed? i wont notice it/ its only on the black screen?
what do i check when I drain the battery?
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anyone?

uwotm8 said:
ok so even if i get light bleed? i wont notice it/ its only on the black screen?
what do i check when I drain the battery?
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uwotm8 said:
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Sorry, Yes I have some light bleed but I don't notice at all during normal operations. It's only during boot up from a black background with Super IPS enabled is when you will be able to tell if any.
Once you drain the battery the tablet will shut down on its own. Plug it in and charge to 100% It's best to not use it during this time. If you have rooted already you can use Battery Calibration to reset your Battery data just to make sure everything is in sync. Obviously you will have to root your Infinity first to use Battery Calibration.

Have you returned your ipad yet?...or are you still busy researching all the reported bugs with the Asus non-ipad device?

Thats OK said:
Have you returned your ipad yet?...or are you still busy researching all the reported bugs with the Asus non-ipad device?
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yup, returning it tomorrow... i need to stop worrying so much

Who makes the LCD for Asus?

I absolutely love the screen on the Infinity, hands down much much better than any other Android device out there and IMHO even better than the iPad Retina (which uses Samsung's PLS screen).
So as the title says, does anyone know who actually makes the LCD display for the Infinity? Does Asus make their own or source it from one of the main suppliers?

Probably Samsung.
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Keion said:
Probably Samsung.
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Taiwan is up there alongside S. Korea as leader of electronics manufacturing, I wouldn't be surprised if it were from Asus' own processing or from a major LCD manufacturing line like Chimei.
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I cant find anything on the TF700 and TF300, but for the Prime/TF201 and the OG TF101 the displays were made by HannStar. Probably a good chance they're still using them... at the very least, they definitely aren't making their own displays.
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/it...nternal-design/2833?tag=content;siu-container
http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/cr...ardown-solid-tablet-but-not-without-flaws/399

Interesting question
Snooping around on yer innernet I could find only one manufacturer of 10.1 LCD touchscreens @1920 x 1200 the name is HYDIS.
I'm sure somebody knows for sure however...

rambling1 said:
I absolutely love the screen on the Infinity, hands down much much better than any other Android device out there and IMHO even better than the iPad Retina (which uses Samsung's PLS screen).
So as the title says, does anyone know who actually makes the LCD display for the Infinity? Does Asus make their own or source it from one of the main suppliers?
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Better then the Apple Ipad screen? I'm not sure about that. The Apple ipad 3 that I use for work some times has the most gorgeous screen. The colors pop and are bright and sharp. Everything seems dull on the Asus screen. I use Netflix sometimes and when you load Netflix that red screen comes up for a little bit. I had the Infinity and the ipad 3 right next to one another while loading Netflix and what a difference.

opentoe said:
Better then the Apple Ipad screen? I'm not sure about that. The Apple ipad 3 that I use for work some times has the most gorgeous screen. The colors pop and are bright and sharp. Everything seems dull on the Asus screen. I use Netflix sometimes and when you load Netflix that red screen comes up for a little bit. I had the Infinity and the ipad 3 right next to one another while loading Netflix and what a difference.
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You forgot about one thing. Two, actually. Aspect ratio and brightness.

Thats OK said:
Interesting question
Snooping around on yer innernet I could find only one manufacturer of 10.1 LCD touchscreens @1920 x 1200 the name is HYDIS.
I'm sure somebody knows for sure however...
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Hydis and Panasonic panels are mentioned in the kernel sources for the backlighting driver, so that seems likely. Panasonic might be "leftovers" from the TF201 kernel code, or maybe they are manufacturing similar panels. No idea, really.
Panel mentions in the source code:
https://github.com/oddeirik/TF700T-...53c5191/drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c#L341

opentoe said:
Better then the Apple Ipad screen? I'm not sure about that. The Apple ipad 3 that I use for work some times has the most gorgeous screen. The colors pop and are bright and sharp. Everything seems dull on the Asus screen. I use Netflix sometimes and when you load Netflix that red screen comes up for a little bit. I had the Infinity and the ipad 3 right next to one another while loading Netflix and what a difference.
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I too compared them at the shop and I probably should have qualified my statement to restrict it to text rendering. I compared the new iPad, Infinity, my HTC One X and Nook Color. Images (I did not try video) on the iPad looked better but fonts and text (which is the type of content I consume the most) looked better on the Asus and also on the HOX. It could be the smoothing that Apple does. I used two apps to compare, the iBook vs. Moon Reader+ and Flipboard.

Einride said:
Hydis and Panasonic panels are mentioned in the kernel sources for the backlighting driver, so that seems likely. Panasonic might be "leftovers" from the TF201 kernel code, or maybe they are manufacturing similar panels. No idea, really.
Panel mentions in the source code:
https://github.com/oddeirik/TF700T-...53c5191/drivers/video/backlight/pwm_bl.c#L341
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Hydis lists their displays and their specs on their site, the closest one seems to be this one but the nits value does not look like that of the Super IPS+
http://www.hydis.com/eng/03_product...Name=TabletPC&openBox=1&subBox=1&openSubBox=0
Maybe they don't list them all.

The black levels...

They're not at all awesome!
I'm coming from a Galaxy Nexus (Amoled display) which has close to perfect black levels, and a ASUS Transformer (IPS display) which while it wasn't to brag about, it was better than the Galaxy Note 10.1's screen.
I was really looking forward to the PLS display on the Note, I heard nothing but great reviews on the tech, but this is really bad.
I mean the blacks aren't even even, its more purple than black.
Is this normal for PLS?
Is anyone else having this issue?
Were there any mods that can be done that fix this issue on other Samsung PLS tablets?

I don't see anything wrong with the black level but I haven't tried using the tablet in the dark yet. Don't compare AMOLED with LCD. LCD will always have ****ty black because of the backlight. The only LCD type I know that has decent black level is CPVA but it's not used in tablets and it's still far from perfect. Asus Transformer TF101 has much worse black level (I have both). Are you talkin about some newer Transformer? Or maybe your brightness is set too high?

Also keep in mind that a lot of websites don't use pure black fonts.
Try turning the display mode up to vibrant and reducing the the brightness.
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if he's referring to the infinity, it's got a very annoying dynamic contrast. the screen dims and brightens as the screen changes, but it's not very discreet at doing so. my main reason for rooting the tf700 was to disable this stupid feature.

I'm sure I'm missing aomething, but I have a decent sum tied up in a plasma and HT equipment to get blacks close to right at home, so am always amazed to see people moan about black levela on $500 mobile device. I'm still amazed I can watch pretty hifh quality movies and even live tv on a mobile device like this, and just cant imagime being worried about blacks unless just atrocious. Am I expecting too little froma device like this?

I was referring to the tf101, but I went to best buy again and compared it to the demo model and realized mine was completely off.
So I TiB backed it up, flash that bad boy back to stock and exchanged it. This new screen is way better.
Although the viewing angles aren't amazing its still an awesome tablet.

Yeah, the viewing angles are the only disappointment for me.

toenail_flicker said:
Yeah, the viewing angles are the only disappointment for me.
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Ive never really gotten the whole viewing angle argument. I pretty much look right at my tablet when using it.
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mitchellvii said:
Ive never really gotten the whole viewing angle argument. I pretty much look right at my tablet when using it.
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maybe his significantly other has confiscated the device and the only way to use it is over her shoulder

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Ive never really gotten the whole viewing angle argument. I pretty much look right at my tablet when using it.
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Some are pretty bad like the iPad3 where if you're not directly front and center there is significant brightness fall off.

[Q] TF700 yellowish screen

Hi guys,
I need an urgent check with you guys about the TF700's screen. Yesterday I visited my friend's house and he happened to have a Galaxy Note 10.1. When we did a side by side comparison between the 2 tablets' screens, I suddenly realize that my TF700's screen is a bit yellowish, which is really noticeable when displaying any white background (white colour on the Note 10.1 is really pure white and colours seem to have better contrast). Are all tf700's screens yellowish or is it just my tablet? I still have 2 days left for 1-for-1 exchange with the shop I bought my tf700 from, after that I would need to route all my warranty requests to ASUS instead.
So far I am really happy with my tf700, the screen is the only concern that I have. Please let me know your opinions. Is exchanging for another set the solution?
Thanks/

Funny, because I own a Samsung Galaxy S2 (yes, not the same comparison but it's the only Samsung product I own) and noticed that it's screen seems to be too blue when held next to my ASUS TF700. It's more of a cool blue, like the "temp" settings you see on some monitors. Those monitors have a "warm" setting for red tones, "medium" for even tones and "cool" for blue tones. The cool blue makes pages appear to be whiter and I wonder if that's what Samsung does with all of their LCD screens? When I hold my phone next to my tablets neither of the screens appear to be a perfect shade of white, but once I move them apart they're both fine.
If it's really bothering you try increasing the brightness setting and turn Auto Brightness off, a dim screen might be causing this yellowish color you see.
I don't think this is a problem, unless you plan on sitting next to your friends Note 10.1 while using your TF700 Seriously though, if you placed your tablets screen next to the various other tablets on the market you'd see that a lot of screens have color/hue/temp differences. Now, if you placed it next to another TF700 and the yellowish color was still noticeable, well then you might have an issue. Other than that I wouldn't worry about it.

The Infinity does have a yellow hint to it. its all tablets not just you. a number of YouTube reviews (ex mobiletech tech review) have discussed it. in fact its believed that infinity has less of a colour bias while ipad and other tabs tend to have a blue tint. its not noticeable on the infinity unless you compare it side by side to another make.

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Funny, because I own a Samsung Galaxy S2 (yes, not the same comparison but it's the only Samsung product I own) and noticed that it's screen seems to be too blue when held next to my ASUS TF700. It's more of a cool blue, like the "temp" settings you see on some monitors. Those monitors have a "warm" setting for red tones, "medium" for even tones and "cool" for blue tones. The cool blue makes pages appear to be whiter and I wonder if that's what Samsung does with all of their LCD screens? When I hold my phone next to my tablets neither of the screens appear to be a perfect shade of white, but once I move them apart they're both fine.
If it's really bothering you try increasing the brightness setting and turn Auto Brightness off, a dim screen might be causing this yellowish color you see.
I don't think this is a problem, unless you plan on sitting next to your friends Note 10.1 while using your TF700 Seriously though, if you placed your tablets screen next to the various other tablets on the market you'd see that a lot of screens have color/hue/temp differences. Now, if you placed it next to another TF700 and the yellowish color was still noticeable, well then you might have an issue. Other than that I wouldn't worry about it.
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I can see what you are saying. The problem with super AMOLED Plus in your Galaxy S2 is that Samsung has deliberately set the screen to be bluish, so that the colours will really pop. As far as I can tell, the S3 and Note 10.1 have managed to fix this problem, providing better colour reproduction than any previous products from Samsung. If I am not wrong, if you compare your S2 with the Note 10.1 side by side, you will see that the Note 10.1's screen to be more realistic in term of colours.
Nevertheless, thanks for your answer. I guess I should be happy with my tf700.

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The Infinity does have a yellow hint to it. its all tablets not just you. a number of YouTube reviews (ex mobiletech tech review) have discussed it. in fact its believed that infinity has less of a colour bias while ipad and other tabs tend to have a blue tint. its not noticeable on the infinity unless you compare it side by side to another make.
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Thanks for pointing me to the right direction, I will give mobile tech review a look.

[Q] Color adjustment without an app or process running??

Hi all,
I have had my Atrix 2 for nearly a week now, and I am getting used to the Yellow tinted screen, but today I tried an app called "Screen Adjuster" which allows you to adjust the brightness/contrast and RGB values. I adjusted blue to about 10+ and couldn't help but notice how good and even colors look! The white actually looks white. I would love to keep the colors that way permanently.
So the question is, Is is possible to alter some file in Root or do some file replacement and smack that yellow out and off the screen? :fingers-crossed:

Pretty sure that there is no way to do it without an app, but thanks for sharing your solution! The colors of the screen on my Atrix 2 have always sucked in comparison to other phones, and now with "screen adjuster" that's no longer the case. What a sweet app! I just set it to run at device startup, and my screen is perfect now
Thanks!!

snowplow said:
Pretty sure that there is no way to do it without an app, but thanks for sharing your solution! The colors of the screen on my Atrix 2 have always sucked in comparison to other phones, and now with "screen adjuster" that's no longer the case. What a sweet app! I just set it to run at device startup, and my screen is perfect now
Thanks!!
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Well, glad to have been of help.
Wish there could be a way to do it.