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Viewing Angle?

The only thing that is stopping me from pulling the trigger on the gtablet is the viewing angle issue that everyone is complaining about. Honestly I dont care how the screen looks if you are looking at it in an angle because one will always look straight into it anyways.. Other than this, what else is the issue with the screen?
Sears will be running a 10% off on this tomorrow AM bringing the price down to $342 and I need to make up my mind to grab it for that price.
Thanks in advance.

mspkash1 said:
The only thing that is stopping me from pulling the trigger on the gtablet is the viewing angle issue that everyone is complaining about. Honestly I dont care how the screen looks if you are looking at it in an angle because one will always look straight into it anyways.. Other than this, what else is the issue with the screen?
Sears will be running a 10% off on this tomorrow AM bringing the price down to $342 and I need to make up my mind to grab it for that price.
Thanks in advance.
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Hi,
I'seen the comments about th screen, and while I'm not an expert on LCDs, I've never understood the complaints.
The screen on mine is bright, at 80%, and I don't notice much problem even at angles. I keep wondering if some Gtabs have different LCDs!
Jim

Probably the biggest issue I have is the solarizing effect that occurs when the screen is tipped back, while in landscape. This is something that is noticeable if you have the tablet flat on a desk and you are trying to view the screen that way. You can work around it by flipping the screen, but that doesn't work with all applications.
I don't think portrait mode is so bad, as I usually look at that straight on (it might be slightly high in contrast but you can turn it slightly to fix that).

IMO, viewing angle is not an issue but .... a privacy feature!

Definitely not a deal breaker for me. There are times where I wish I could get a wider angle, such as flat on a desk. However, it works fine for the majority of uses.

mspkash1 said:
The only thing that is stopping me from pulling the trigger on the gtablet is the viewing angle issue that everyone is complaining about. Honestly I dont care how the screen looks if you are looking at it in an angle because one will always look straight into it anyways.. Other than this, what else is the issue with the screen?
Sears will be running a 10% off on this tomorrow AM bringing the price down to $342 and I need to make up my mind to grab it for that price.
Thanks in advance.
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Would be nice if they would run it at $349 again and the 10%. Let me know if they will give you the 10% on it as I will go get another.

Go check a Staples and see if they still have a demo unit out(they're apparently pulling it but some store might still have a demo unit out -- Sears just has a cheezy mockup...), or maybe an Office Depot...
The viewing angle really isn't so bad when you're using as I've found all the time that I'm holding or have it propped on my lap I have an almost dead view so the viewing angle limitation is not apparent.
As others have mentioned there have been a few times when I'd've liked a better viewing angle, such as when I have laying on the desktop while transferring files to it or having it do things and want a quick check of the screen status w/o have to crane over it...
My biggest remaining complaint is 10" form factor and weight, but mostly the 10" which makes it unwieldly which is why I'll eventually be adding a 7" to complement it, likely a Nook Color(NC) ATM although I'm resisting(strongly) running out and buying one any second now... (made it through Thursday & Friday w/o buying one... keep telling myself more tablets are on the way and to wait a bit although B&N seem to be the best at support so far, and given that they're still supporting the eInk Nook(Nook B&W? NBW?)...)
OTOH the 10" & weight allowed them to pack in a pretty decent battery, and I can manage a few days between charges which I'm sure no 7" will be able to manage, and especially not the NC... going to have to charge every night, and watch screen brightness & WiFi usage...
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Since I added in the Sears line above, it's funny I went to Sears to buy one of those crappy cases(VS $6 one), and the sales guy was laughing about how they have almost nothing in stock... He mentioned that because I asked if they had any other cases than that one, and he said that's it.. going on to mention of the two netbooks on display only the ASUS was in stock, they had 1 HDMI cable, 2 VGA cables(not sure what he meant by this one), a couple of ipods... pretty sad... I can't help but wonder if all Sears stores are like that or just that one... if they're all like that Sears is in trouble...
The Sylvania tablet display had disappeared too, since I was last there in mid-November... still had the white & black PDNs on display, along with a lone Sony eInk reader...
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I got mine site unseen and also struggled with all the negativity before opening it. I finally broke down and gave it a go and can say I really love the device. Sure, the screen is probably its weakest link but far from the bleek picture painted in most reviews.
I guess many sites are holding the Gtab up to iPad standards. The screen is just a regular old netbook LCD. Viewing angles are made for landscape and looking down at 45 degrees. Everything outside that is pretty poor but typically that is how I hold the thing and the viewing angle doesn't bother me. Portrait is another story and if you want this thing to be an e-book reader (or anything) in that form factor then you will be sorely disappointed.

Viewing angle sucks big time and anyone who says otherwise is just trying to justify and otherwise good amchine they purchase and spent a lot of time getting to work properly.
It is a pain to type on in any kind of angle as the most comfortable angles make screen look negative polarity.
For straight on viewing I agree it's nice

I just got mine in sears with a 5% discount off of $379. I know the stock rom is junk and I dont even care as i'll flash it with vegan or tnt. I am trying hard to like the screen. In portrait mode, when viewing web pages, the text is alright but the pictures have this solarizing effect which I am not able to get over with.. darn.. why didnt they put a good screen on this otherwise a good power house.. will play around lil bit before deciding if i should keep it or send her back

Hi Guys,
Are all variants of the Malata tablet (including the GTablet) have the same LCD screen? I want a 10" Tegra 2 tablet with a better screen.
Thanks.

Canadoc said:
Viewing angle sucks big time and anyone who says otherwise is just trying to justify and otherwise good amchine they purchase and spent a lot of time getting to work properly.
It is a pain to type on in any kind of angle as the most comfortable angles make screen look negative polarity.
For straight on viewing I agree it's nice
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You HAVE to have a different screen than the one I got. I can't get it to go negative no matter what angle I turn it too. The wife and I browsed the web for hours tonight and it worked perfectly, the viewing angle is much better than her hp laptop.
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Maybe different batches have different screens. Mine is terrible if I hold it in portrait and look at it straight on. I have to tilt it to one side to make it usable unless it's completely dark.

WickedStyx said:
Maybe different batches have different screens. Mine is terrible if I hold it in portrait and look at it straight on. I have to tilt it to one side to make it usable unless it's completely dark.
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My gtab has same problem in portrait.

cyberbillp said:
You HAVE to have a different screen than the one I got. I can't get it to go negative no matter what angle I turn it too. The wife and I browsed the web for hours tonight and it worked perfectly, the viewing angle is much better than her hp laptop.
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You mind telling us where you got the GTab, and when? And your model # on the box? I wouldn't discount the possibility that you might have slightly different device than the rest of us.
I know that bekit had gotten a device that had different partitions than the "norm" - maybe the LCD is different, as well. All speculation, of course.

The viewing angle was the only thing I was worried about on this device prior to purchase as this was the main complaint, but after receiving it, its not as bad as some people made it to be, really some people are just really picky. I'm usually really anal about these things too but it is really not that bad.

WickedStyx said:
Maybe different batches have different screens. Mine is terrible if I hold it in portrait and look at it straight on. I have to tilt it to one side to make it usable unless it's completely dark.
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Ditto whoever says it is good must own a white and orange cane

Canadoc said:
Ditto whoever says it is good must own a white and orange cane
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There's a difference between good and good enough. The screen is good enough. Could be better, but works fine. I think most "positive" responses are of similar mind.

My workaround is to place a gum eraser underneath the top of the unit when I'm using it at the kitchen counter. The extra 1 1/2" of tilt helps viewing and the eraser doesn't slip.
An annoyance but definitely not a show stopper for me....

Can someone post a picture of what this viewing angle issue. I see so many references too it, bit I can't get a good visual of what people are taking about

Will I like the G2x?

Currently have a Nexus S and I just ordered a G2X, if someone has compared them both. What do you think? Is the G2X a upgrade to the Nexus S? I'm in a good place because I can always hand down whatever device I don't want to keep or return the G2X for the Sensation. What are your opinions on the G2X hardware wise? The G2X will probably be stock for like 5 min. as I plan on putting whatever rom is hot atm. Please help I'm torn between the two lol.
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There are lots of NS owners and they say the screen is brighter and more detailed.... and much much faster.
Coming from the Nexus line, it flashes and everything the same way. No using special software to flash or anything. Just root, download Rom Manager, and flash.
The Sensation has an encrypted locked bootloader so chances of it having custom roms is slim-to-none.
Plus Tegra 2 dual-core is faster. HDMI out is fun. You'll like it.

Yep.
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I come from the Galaxy S 4G and I really like this phone.
Nexus S and Galaxy S 4G were similar phones so my answer is no, you will not be dissapointed with the G2x.
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I was about to pick up a G2X recently. I talked to a person in the store returning their G2X which had horrid back light bleeding. I'm learning that this issue is inherent to this models screen to varying degrees depending on your luck. The screenshots I've seen being sent to LG support don't look good either. Whats the consensus here?

Castle5665 said:
I was about to pick up a G2X recently. I talked to a person in the store returning their G2X which had horrid back light bleeding. I'm learning that this issue is inherent to this models screen to varying degrees depending on your luck. The screenshots I've seen being sent to LG support don't look good either. Whats the consensus here?
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A bunch of nit picken cry babies. It is never noticeable. I watch movies in the dark. Still not bad.
But whatever.
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mr.orange303 said:
A bunch of nit picken cry babies. It is never noticeable. I watch movies in the dark. Still not bad.
But whatever.
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this is more how i feel as well...
while it is an issue, some phones are worse than others for sure... My phone has what I would consider average bleeding for an LCD screen, i have a bit of bleed in the upper left corner and a smaller bit on the lower left... at 100% brightness on total black they are both noticeable but not like rays of sun protruding out the sides... on 50% you can see them if you are looking for them and lowest brightness they are totally unnoticeable...
now, i watch movies at night all the time and i keep my brightness settings on automatic so when i watch my movies that have dark edges and such the brightness is typically very low thus the bleeding goes unnoticed... never have i needed to watch a movie with max brightness in the dark, the only time i would noticeably see the bleeding... if i do max brightness during the day while watching something then i still dont notice the bleeding cuz the natural daylight blends it out...
point being, there are very few scenarios where you will even come in contact with the bleeding if its not so bad that your whole screen is turning yellow, which i have seen lol
its all a matter of what you can tolerate in the end...

Yes. It's a great phone, even with the old software, and when the tasty gingerbread update drops it will be better.
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A bunch of nit picken cry babies. It is never noticeable. I watch movies in the dark. Still not bad.
But whatever.
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Agreed, though I am on my 2nd G2x. No issues at all. Minimal bleed in the top left and right corners, but not really noticeable except on the splash screen, boot animation, and power-off animation. I had an EVO for almost a year, and it had the same issue. Never noticed it with normal usage, even rockin' a gingerbread rom w/ the black status bar.
My first looked like the screens in this thread: http://www.lgforum.com/forum/boards/carriers/t-mobile/topics/g2x-screen-separating-from-body
Clearly defective, so I sent it back and got a new one. Very satisfied now.

Thanks for the opinions of the backlight bleed guys. I'm just worried coming from a SAMOLED screen on the Vibrant, that I would be very disappointed. I'll give it more consideration.

Castle5665 said:
Thanks for the opinions of the backlight bleed guys. I'm just worried coming from a SAMOLED screen on the Vibrant, that I would be very disappointed. I'll give it more consideration.
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I came from an AMOLED on a Nexus 1 and while it was not a SAMOLED i still think i prefer the LCD over LED given the current tech... the pentile matrix of LED drove me nuts, everything looked grainy to me regardless of the vibrant colors and deep blacks... LCD looks sharper and more natural... I have great eyesight so I am nitpicky about quality and clarity on my screen

I came from the vibrant also and I wonder what everyone was on about. While I like the colors of the vibrant, the g2x still looks bea-utiful! Lcd screen bleed isnt so bad. specially with the lights on.
Unlike a ugly chick you dont have to turn out the lights to use it!

question about display

Hey guys, I have a question about our skyrockets displays. When I look straight at mine, it's kid yellow. But when I slightly tilt it at any angle it becomes whiter bluer. It's like going from warm colors straight to cold.
Is this normal on a super amoled plus? Never had one before and I'm coming from the ips display on an iPhone.
It doesn't bother me, but I'm just curious.

Mine does the same thing. At least in this app. I don't recall if I have ever looked at this phone or an iPhone before from that acute angle. I try to notice.
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its the way the phone is. It doesn't have a true white display due to Amoled screen. Do a search and you will know more of other people complain about this.

Huh. I hadn't noticed this until just now. It's not intolerable but yes, seems to be true.
However, no one does true black like Samsung, and the positive aspects of the screen far outweigh this as well as the lines you see when not in full bright mode (I usually keep mine on full brightness anyways).

[Q] Viewing Angles

What are your screen viewing angles like? Mine seems to be quite poor, it washes out off centre quite a lot. Im wondering if I have a bad unit or if its just normal for the N5.

Looks good to me. Haven't received mine so I don't know if it's a bad unit.
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Marck527 said:
Looks good to me. Haven't received mine so I don't know if it's a bad unit.
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Not compared to what im used to it isnt. My last few devices have been AMOLED screens (no comparing to these, just a comment) or the HTC One LCD3 which has perfect viewing angles with no changes to the screen at any angles at all. Its somewhat worse than my Nexus 10.

ChrisM75 said:
What are your screen viewing angles like? Mine seems to be quite poor, it washes out off centre quite a lot. Im wondering if I have a bad unit or if its just normal for the N5.
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What wallpaper is that? please can you post it or a link to it.

mith500 said:
What wallpaper is that? please can you post it or a link to it.
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I got it from the Zedge app.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7xdq7abvf7q400m/Multicolor abstract_1.jpg

ChrisM75 said:
What are your screen viewing angles like? Mine seems to be quite poor, it washes out off centre quite a lot. Im wondering if I have a bad unit or if its just normal for the N5.
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That's normal for LCD, that's called backlight. Nothing faulty here. I also own the HTC One and it has the same effect as well when you tilt the screen.
EDIT: I see what you mean now, when tilting the screen exactly like you do (45 degrees vert/hor). It still is not a faulty unit, it's just that LG has less prevented the backlight from coming through. Maybe its because of the slim bevel. I have seen it on other LG devices before though.
To answer your question, I think it's normal for the N5 .

DevShaft said:
That's normal for LCD, that's called backlight. Nothing faulty here. I also own the HTC One and it has the same effect as well when you tilt the screen.
EDIT: I see what you mean now, when tilting the screen exactly like you do (45 degrees vert/hor). It still is not a faulty unit, it's just that LG has less prevented the backlight from coming through. Maybe its because of the slim bevel. I have seen it on other LG devices before though.
To answer your question, I think it's normal for the N5 .
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Well my HTC One doesnt change at all at any angle. The screen is perfect even if you look at it from the edge of the phone all colours and lighting are perfect!
Im fine with it if its normal for the N5, but if there are better units id prefer one of those.

ChrisM75 said:
What are your screen viewing angles like? Mine seems to be quite poor, it washes out off centre quite a lot. Im wondering if I have a bad unit or if its just normal for the N5.
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what clock and weather is that

hello00 said:
what clock and weather is that
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Both are HD Widgets with colorform add-on.

This does not seem right. Now i don't have my N5 yet, but on my N4 i can look at it from almost 180 degrees and it loses almost nothing no matter how i look at it.

I have the same problem. When I turn my Nexus 180° my screen isn't visible anymore. Is it normal?
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Tunatje said:
I have the same problem. When I turn my Nexus 180° my screen isn't visible anymore. Is it normal?
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I see what you did there.
But on topic, when you see a phone screen is IPS you kind of expect it to look great from off angles.

Outrager said:
I see what you did there.
But on topic, when you see a phone screen is IPS you kind of expect it to look great from off angles.
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I totally agree with you. But dude, it looks great in any way.It has also to do with brightness. Throttle your brightness slider all the way to right en your N5 has perfect viewing angle. Even with 90 degrees. I had the Z1 before the Nexus 5. I must say the Nexus 5 does a waaaay beter job than the Z1. So I ain't complaining right now.
Might be a personal thing. After all, everything looks beter than TFT(regarding viewing angles).

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Might be a personal thing. After all, everything looks beter than TFT(regarding viewing angles).
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Yup. I spoiled myself since my first LCD monitor was an IPS screen so when I look at TN screens I can't stand them.

The poor viewing angles of my Nexus 4 has been one of my biggest gripes with the device. I popped into the carphone warehouse today to check the viewing angles of the Nexus 5 and from what I can see it suffers from the same problem Not as bad as the Z1 but not as good as devices like the HTC One from what I can see. Shame.

Getting my N5 today so i'll do some experimenting. my N4 has perfect viewing angles from anywhere. only very slight discoloration. nothing like OP's picture.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYt7EPfdsYc
Thats big ****!

neok44 said:
my N4 has perfect viewing angles from anywhere. only very slight discoloration
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So good displays are out there on the N4... I'm on my second device but both have had pretty terrible displays

yeah i guess i just got lucky, and if that video comparing it with the oppo is legit that i'm insanely disappointed. If the screen is that bad i'm returning mine. I'd love to have the better camera and some of the other features but i'm not going to keep a garbage screen.

neok44 said:
yeah i guess i just got lucky, and if that video comparing it with the oppo is legit that i'm insanely disappointed. If the screen is that bad i'm returning mine. I'd love to have the better camera and some of the other features but i'm not going to keep a garbage screen.
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Crappy screen is a no go. I will receive mine on saturday. If it also has this **** angles, i will return it.
FU LG for producing such a ****ty Display. I want HTC to produce the next nexus!!

Note 5 vs V10

I'm looking to switch outta the note 5. Does any one know if the LG v10 is comparable?
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I'm not sure if I want a phone with IPS screen.

I've had both. I jumped to the v10, and was back to the note 5 within a month.
The V10 is good, but not quite there yet on performance and bugs.
The camera is excellent though. I liked that better than the note.
Overall, it wasn't a bad phone for me. My wife still has hers and likes it.
It is a different experience for sure
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tengtengvn said:
I'm not sure if I want a phone with IPS screen.
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How come?
IPS screens aren't bad at all. Colours are pretty on point too especially compared to Samsung and their over saturation of colours.
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Jammol said:
How come?
IPS screens aren't bad at all. Colours are pretty on point too especially compared to Samsung and their over saturation of colours.
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AMOLED and dark theme save battery. I'm used to the AMOLED screen but that's just me. I don't like how pixels are lid up on a black background. The Moto 360 has the IPS screen and it's pretty annoying to look at at night with an always on watchface.

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AMOLED and dark theme save battery. I'm used to the AMOLED screen but that's just me. I don't like how pixels are lid up on a black background. The Moto 360 has the IPS screen and it's pretty annoying to look at at night with an always on watchface.
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Ahh okay. I see a lot of people complain about that on the IPS devices. I didn't mind the ones I've owned in the past. I will say that I do love the Amoled screens but I just don't see the hype of the superBlacks that people rave about, though I do love my screen not Cyclops'in me at night though. Lol.

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I've had both. I jumped to the v10, and was back to the note 5 within a month.
The V10 is good, but not quite there yet on performance and bugs.
The camera is excellent though. I liked that better than the note.
Overall, it wasn't a bad phone for me. My wife still has hers and likes it.
It is a different experience for sure
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Same here...its a nice concept but v10 has worse battery life than note 5 and the second screen has weird shadowing issues that I could not stand ...not really a second screen...software splits them up...when you load cyanogen on it is obvious and I hated it.... hope this helps..

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Same here...its a nice concept but v10 has worse battery life than note 5 and the second screen has weird shadowing issues that I could not stand ...not really a second screen...software splits them up...when you load cyanogen on it is obvious and I hated it.... hope this helps..
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That sounds awful. I never get the point of the second screen in the V10.

tengtengvn said:
That sounds awful. I never get the point of the second screen in the V10.
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Yeah pretty much just a dedicated recent bar or edge app bar...pretty gimmicky....note 5 is such a better device overall...I don't know why every phone doesn't have front facing speakers tho...the only thing I would change really...but viper does a very nice job improving default speaker performance.
I usually don't even need to turn it up past halfway!

Jammol said:
Ahh okay. I see a lot of people complain about that on the IPS devices. I didn't mind the ones I've owned in the past. I will say that I do love the Amoled screens but I just don't see the hype of the superBlacks that people rave about, though I do love my screen not Cyclops'in me at night though. Lol.
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Seems to have a lot to do with how people use their phones. I'm personally a heavy reader, and there's something about Kindle with the black background setting and an AMOLED display. The screen just sort of disappears when you read in the dark, and all you see are the letters floating in your hand.
After three Samsungs, I switched to a Nexus 5 a couple years ago and haaaated the always-glowing LCD. Picked up a Note 4, breathed a sigh of relief. Went through the usual annual "Samsung sucks, I'm never buying another Samsung ever again!" tantrum after that and tried an iPhone 6 just to "gain some perspective". Haaaated the always-glowing LCD yet again (and so much more--you can't answer incoming VOIP app calls from the lock screen? What??), and went right back to Samsung with this Note 5.
So I've basically learned two things about myself: 1) I need zero-glow-blacks and 2) whining about Samsung has never changed the fact that they're the only brand I haven't thoroughly hated owning.

I agree. Samsung is keeping the best AMOLED screen for their flagships. The 6P's AMOLED screen is great but you can clearly tell it's not on the same level.