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Its strange but noticed that my phones whit coloring looks a little more greenish than my.friends vibrant. And then i compared my captivate to my gfs and here whites r more white colored like my friend.
I don't get it, did a lot if the models come with different screens that display differently?
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The Captivate has the AMOLED screen.......the only one....
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The Captivate has the AMOLED screen.......the only one....
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It has a Super AMOLED screen...
The Captivate has the AMOLED screen.......the only one...
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seems like someone needs a little more research
wait what no the whole entire galaxy s line has super amoled hmm its maybe the tint thats changed a little
A Super ALOMED screen is still AMOLED.
Anyway, just because it is the same model screen doesn't mean there are not variations in the mfg process that could cause slight differences. With the amount of screens that they are pushing out I am sure they are using equivelent components that may not be exactly the same.
Also depending on the allowed tollerances, 2 screen with slighly different temperature ratings could both still pass QA.
Personally my screen is very cold, whites tend to have a slight tint of blue to them. I prefer warmer displays but the SAMOLED is too nice to ignore even if the picture is cold.
It's possible that the screens are going through a rapid break-in process and the screens look different because they have been used different amounts.
Or it could just be differences within manufacturing tolerances.
Well this all makes sense. Mine has a greenish tiny, my gf and frie.d have a warmer orange redish tint and i have a lil blue green tint.
This follows the rgb thing in a way. I think different screen manufacturers favor one of the latter.
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That's funny cause the AT&T commercial specifically says "The first and only Super AMOLED screen" or something of that nature....
screen is fine, got mine on launch day,,,im sooooo loving this phone,i was using omnia2....
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Well this all makes sense. Mine has a greenish tiny, my gf and frie.d have a warmer orange redish tint and i have a lil blue green tint.
This follows the rgb thing in a way. I think different screen manufacturers favor one of the latter.
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Only samsung makes the the screen for this phone.
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That's funny cause the AT&T commercial specifically says "The first and only Super AMOLED screen" or something of that nature....
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AT&T says a lot of things.
The entire Galaxy S line up has Samsung's "Super AMOLED" screen.
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They may make the screen, but that doesn't mean they make all the materials used to manufacture the screen.
Different materials cause wider manufacturing tolerances. It's not different manufacturers favoring one color over another in this situation.
I really wish there could be a straight answer instead of speculating why our phones are cooler and warmer in color. I mean the screen still looks freakin great, but i wonder if there is a way to manipulate it through software.
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I agree. I would love it if phones finally started letting you adjust color temperature like computers.
My screen is also blue. I´m waiting it to go away in time, but I´m really sceptic about it...
It´s easy to test after you download somekind of a flashlight app and use it in the dark, mine gives the same blueish light like those cheap led-flashlights, so definytely not real whites in my unit...
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My screen is also blue. I´m waiting it to go away in time, but I´m really sceptic about it...
It´s easy to test after you download somekind of a flashlight app and use it in the dark, mine gives the same blueish light like those cheap led-flashlights, so definytely not real whites in my unit...
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There is no such thing as real white when it comes to light (what your screen is putting out). I would prefer the screen to be warmer, but it is still white.
For more information look up color temperature.
The HTC Desire and Nexus one on Cyanogen Mod both allow you to adjust gamma settings via software. So this can definitely be corrected. All it requires is additional dev magic and a dab of patience.
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The HTC Desire and Nexus one on Cyanogen Mod both allow you to adjust gamma settings via software. So this can definitely be corrected. All it requires is additional dev magic and a dab of patience.
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That's interesting,i hope someone is working on color temperature too.
Somebody else mentioned it but "manufacturer tolerance" is what causes this. It would be possible to make them all exactly the same, but the costs of the device would go up significantly. Usually the difference is so minute that most people never notice.
You see the same thing with mass produced digital projectors and tvs. If you were to take 10 new projectors of the same model and line them up side by side you would find not all the pictures were exactly the same. Due to manufacturer tolerance some may be slightly brighter or dimmer and colors may be a little more vibrant on another.
Blue Tint
Yes, Super Amoleds are coming in all forms of Tint. Some are lucky to get nice warm whites. Other people get green, blue, greenish blue, or even yellow tints.
maybe even pink tint like the amoled on zune hd
SAMSUNG GET YOUR ACT TOGETHER!
Does anybody else notice that the screen colors on the MT4G are a little too high, its like the colors are too bright. I know that I can turn the brightness down, but right now I just have it set to automatic and I like that and I don't want to have to change that.
Does anyone know how to change the contrast on the MT4G? I just want to saturate the colors a little more. Anyone?
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Does anybody else notice that the screen colors on the MT4G are a little too high, its like the colors are too bright. I know that I can turn the brightness down, but right now I just have it set to automatic and I like that and I don't want to have to change that.
Does anyone know how to change the contrast on the MT4G? I just want to saturate the colors a little more. Anyone?
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You can't do this on any android phone, rooted or not. Could you take a picture or maybe tell tmobile your problem, it might be an actual lcd problem.
Yeah I thought that I was the only one. Especially on this site when you view it from your mobile browser, the brown XDA heading is too bright and faded
I noticed it when I got my wife a MT4g. On her phone the colors are slightly more saturated and the blacks are slightly darker also. It is kinda bothering me now.
wanna see something crazy look at your phne for a minute and then look your computer the screen looks blue lol iyts true my mytouch colors are bright or must be my eyes
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wanna see something crazy look at your phne for a minute and then look your computer the screen looks blue lol iyts true my mytouch colors are bright or must be my eyes
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Maybe its related to the screen being used in the phone.
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Im going to the tmo store tommorow hopefully they can help. They will probably look at me crazy.
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My wife is experienceing this as well. She went to look for the night time bedside clock app and found when the app turned the brightness down to 6 the entire screen went black, but at a brightness level of 7 the screen was dim, but still brighter than I would expect.
She commented on her Vibrant when the brightness was turned down it would go all the way down and have a black background, not a washed out dim gray background.
Hopefully there will be a fix coming.
I posted elsewhere that the screen, while obviously not as good as the Vibrant's, seemed to be just as good as that of the Nexus, Incredible, Eris, etc.
Well, I stand corrected. After reading your post, I downloaded 'Night Watch', and compared the look to that of my wife's Nexus. The Nexus does indeed appear to have a black background at 39% brightness, with vibrant green (color I chose) numbers. The MT4G appears more grey-ish, with less vibrant green numbers. Even when I reduced the brightness by another 5%, the MT4G was still grey-ish.
Now, I'm not sure if this is the screen hardware itself, or something in the contrast settings of the phone. It did bum me out a little, as I've been a pretty staunch supporter of this phone since I got it.
The dilemma is,
Do I decide to go back to a Vibrant for a nicer screen, but much fewer options? (not much chance of that)
Look to find another Nexus; and tak ea step back in terms of processor speed, ram, features, et.c (with the exception of the color trackball, which Nexus lords over ever other phone)
Wait until something better comes out; as there are no other android phones comparable to this one in terms of features, available by T-mo right now? (Wait? Really? Arggh!)
All in all, I'm very happy with this device. And maybe I'm just knee-jerking. But, in truth, it does bother me somewhat. Thoughts?
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I posted elsewhere that the screen, while obviously not as good as the Vibrant's, seemed to be just as good as that of the Nexus, Incredible, Eris, etc.
Well, I stand corrected. After reading your post, I downloaded 'Night Watch', and compared the look to that of my wife's Nexus. The Nexus does indeed appear to have a black background at 39% brightness, with vibrant green (color I chose) numbers. The MT4G appears more grey-ish, with less vibrant green numbers. Even when I reduced the brightness by another 5%, the MT4G was still grey-ish.
Now, I'm not sure if this is the screen hardware itself, or something in the contrast settings of the phone. It did bum me out a little, as I've been a pretty staunch supporter of this phone since I got it.
The dilemma is,
Do I decide to go back to a Vibrant for a nicer screen, but much fewer options? (not much chance of that)
Look to find another Nexus; and tak ea step back in terms of processor speed, ram, features, et.c (with the exception of the color trackball, which Nexus lords over ever other phone)
Wait until something better comes out; as there are no other android phones comparable to this one in terms of features, available by T-mo right now? (Wait? Really? Arggh!)
All in all, I'm very happy with this device. And maybe I'm just knee-jerking. But, in truth, it does bother me somewhat. Thoughts?
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I know exactly what you mean, the blacks look grey and the reds look pink.
I think there is something wrong with the contrast balance in the software somehow, because it does seem like a nice screen, but those are just my thoughts.
I sincerely hope that this is the case. If so, perhaps some tweaking can be done in the settings, mch like, but nothng at all like, the registry settings change in WinMo phone, wherein the colors/contrast could be adjusted by assigning different numbers.
I realize that there is a huge difference between android and WinMo registry tweaks. But it's hard to believe they would simply included an inferior screen to go along with so many other hardware improvements.
its not an amoled display guys, it's never going to be completely black or have as high a contrast ratio as the nexus or vibrant.
Yeah, I know what kind of screen it is, and I know how others look in comparison, my point is though, my Mytouch3G had better colors. It just seems like something could be done via software.
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It has only been out a couple of weeks, I would give it some time and everyone complain a little to T-Mobile and hopefully they can add it to a future OTA update.
I only had the MT4G for a night before returning it for a replacement (which is still in the mail), but I agree: The screen looked very washed out. It was so bad that I am now considering keeping my Vibrant.
I am not asking for SuperAMOLED-like quality, but something average would be nice... not low quality crap.
I'm starting to think there's production issues. The very first 2 units I saw had the washed out look. I saw one today that seemed fine. I went thru the menus and changed the backgrounds. Everything seemed much better on this one.
I wish I could compare them side by side, but these were in 2 different stores.
Thoughts?
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I had been weary about the screen ever since I got mine last Wednesday. From reading reviews talking about how great the screen looked, and then mine was kinda... blah. First words in my mind when I turned it on was how washed out some of the colors looked.
I took mine back to T-Mobile tonight and swapped it out for a new and I have to say that there's a huge difference. Some of the colors are still a little off, but it looks like it's the app's icon and not the screen itself. Compare the newest YouTube app's red to the TasKiller's red, for instance.
Now to wait on the OTA so I can re-root this thing and clean it off.
I wish I had something to compare mine to. I went to the store, thinking I would compare mine to one of theirs. But it was a bust; as the screen looked exactly the same. So either mine is as good as the replacement you got, but just pales in comparison to the Nexus. Or it's washed out, the one in the store is washed out, and I'm still at square one. Unfortunately, there's no way for me to tell.
I took my MT4G back after running the Asphalt demo next to an Epic and Droid X. The colors were totally faded out and missing details seen on the other devices. The Epic is over-saturated and the X seems to split the difference, not to mention the size is awesome.
Hmm...
Well, being with T-mo, neither of those other two is an option for me. But, I'm thinking about it, and I'm starting to think our phones only seem to pale in comparison.
What I mean is, side by side, yes, they seem to be less-than-stellar. But when used on their own, they seem to be pretty alright... though obviously not as good as what our minds recall the others being.
If you look at a 60hz 1080p tv side by side with a 120hz edge-lit LED tv, yes, the original would look tame. But that's not to say that it doesn't look great on it's own.
Well we know the DHD has LCD, but AT&T site says the inspire has SLCD... I compared mine to two MT4G, one has LCD, the other SLCD... and apparently my inspire behaves (saturation/view-angle) somewhat in between, leaning towards the LCD.
So how about yours? you probably get a LCD if a sharp view angel gives you wash out colors.
So AT&T is giving out misleading info then..
ripped a link about the MT4G good vs bad screen: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=863679
not really sure how accurate my judgement is.....but i can look at mine almost 180 degrees, basically until i cant see the screen anymore, and colors still look great. Doesn't seem to be washed out for me, but again, i have never compared a SLCD to an LCD.
Just as a side note....I have been MORE than impressed with this screen, even coming from a s-amoled on the Captivate. I was really thinking i was going to miss the "pop" from the captivate screen, but the colors on the Inspire have been more than pleasing to my eye. Although, the black levels on the LCD suck compared to the OLED....
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not really sure how accurate my judgement is.....but i can look at mine almost 180 degrees, basically until i cant see the screen anymore, and colors still look great. Doesn't seem to be washed out for me, but again, i have never compared a SLCD to an LCD.
Just as a side note....I have been MORE than impressed with this screen, even coming from a s-amoled on the Captivate. I was really thinking i was going to miss the "pop" from the captivate screen, but the colors on the Inspire have been more than pleasing to my eye. Although, the black levels on the LCD suck compared to the OLED....
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Leaning towards SLCD over here as well.
Searching in the forum and saw someone saying the DHD in India are SLCD. Does anyone know how to determine it on the software side?
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Well we know the DHD has LCD, but AT&T site says the inspire has SLCD... I compared mine to two MT4G, one has LCD, the other SLCD... and apparently my inspire behaves (saturation/view-angle) somewhat in between, leaning towards the LCD.
So how about yours? you probably get a LCD if a sharp view angel gives you wash out colors.
So AT&T is giving out misleading info then..
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I have an HD2, which has a common LCD...with the washed out view angles and all...and my Inspire doesn't exhibit the angle washout as my HD2. The colors are a bit more intense also.
I'm with everyone else here. I can look at mine in a complete 180 degree arc and lose very little color and detail from the most extreme angles.
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I'm with everyone else here. I can look at mine in a complete 180 degree arc and lose very little color and detail from the most extreme angles.
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ditto, i'm leaning toward SLCD
Colors are not washed out practically at all, viewing from any angle up until I can no longer see the screen. I'm wagering SLCD.
I came from Vibrant, so maybe I expected a bit too much for the inspire then..
but I compared mine to a Desire Z's SLCD and its really different.
The colors when viewing at 45 degree on the 1-2 O'clock position of the phone is extremely washed out and showed a green tint.
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I came from Vibrant, so maybe I expected a bit too much for the inspire then..
but I compared mine to a Desire Z's SLCD and its really different.
The colors when viewing at 45 degree on the 1-2 O'clock position of the phone is extremely washed out and showed a green tint.
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Might just be your device, brother. I came from a Captivate (SAMOLED) and it's WP7 cousin, the Focus, and I see little to no difference in off angle viewing from either of those devices. The colors stay true, but obviously the luminance does decrease the further you move from 0 degrees.
Also, I'm using a crappy, AT&T store, anti-glare screen protector till my nice ones show up tomorrow. That further degrades the quality of the screen, so the true nature of the screen is better than I've even been describing it.
. This is surely sad.. did anyone try the Android emulator method (dmseg) in the my4g link and see what type of panel it is?
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. This is surely sad.. did anyone try the Android emulator method (dmseg) in the my4g link and see what type of panel it is?
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I looked at it, but this handset isn't a mytouch4g. That command shows a number designation that we don't have a key to for this device. They may very well be the same, but we don't know for sure. My number would designate that I had the "good screen" but I have yet to see any reply that would cause me to think that there were any bad screens, other than you. If you are unhappy with your device, take it back and see if the sales rep wouldn't mind you running the hardware check for the screen. However, if its as noticable as you say, you should be able to tell without it.
I tested my inspire against the atrix im currently using, and the qHD screen has significantly more color washout and bleed than the inspires panel. A 45 degree angle of the atrix tints everything a yellowish haze.
mine has a type 1 panel.. so I guess I'm filing a return.
Ok...so, several sites, all have different info. PC Mag, whom I trust dearly, say it's on LCD... Most other say its SLCD.. So..I have to call HTC tonight after work anyways... I'll ask them, and if I can get them to verify which one, I'll report back..
Hi all,
Picked up my One S on Monday and, so far, in almost every way it's my "perfect" phone - great feel, weight, crazy slick... just lovely.
However (and why is there ALWAYS an Achilles heel?), I'm really not happy about the screen. Ok, it's pentile, but so was my Desire (AMOLED one) and I never had a single problem with that. It's just this one seems so, well, pink! Not just in white balance, but there seems to be too much red everywhere - e.g. text on grey in Tweetdeck has crazy amounts of red fringing (especially noticeable on the yellow too), and the over saturated colours are almost too much (though not much more than my Desire, to be honest).
(Quick comparison of the screen temps attached)
I mean, seriously, that's not normal, right?
Am I the only person who seems to notice red / pink outlines on everything, am I the only person bothered by it, or am I just unlucky with this phone?
I went to Carphone to swap it, but they wouldn't because their manager was out and because I traded down from the X on Monday (flickering screen nightmare), so I had a play on their display model and I convinced myself the screen on that one was better! But, I'd love a second opinion!
Cheers!
Oh that's really pink! Will check mine when it finishes the first round charging.
I would say this isn't normal. On amoled Displays white areas appear a bit blueish or grey. But this red/pink looks unnormal
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no, this doesn't look normal. But the thin red and green outlines are caused by the pentile-matrix, this is normal.
Just download Screen Adjuster and increase blue and green values a bit and your red screen will be gone
That's a v. useful app! It's definitely taken the edge off (green & blue at +5), but I'll still pursue a replacement as the contrast has taken a bit of a hit now.
(I'm such a perfectionist!)
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Picked up my One S on Monday and, so far, in almost every way it's my "perfect" phone - great feel, weight, crazy slick... just lovely.
However (and why is there ALWAYS an Achilles heel?), I'm really not happy about the screen. Ok, it's pentile, but so was my Desire (AMOLED one) and I never had a single problem with that. It's just this one seems so, well, pink! Not just in white balance, but there seems to be too much red everywhere - e.g. text on grey in Tweetdeck has crazy amounts of red fringing (especially noticeable on the yellow too), and the over saturated colours are almost too much (though not much more than my Desire, to be honest).
(Quick comparison of the screen temps attached)
I mean, seriously, that's not normal, right?
Am I the only person who seems to notice red / pink outlines on everything, am I the only person bothered by it, or am I just unlucky with this phone?
I went to Carphone to swap it, but they wouldn't because their manager was out and because I traded down from the X on Monday (flickering screen nightmare), so I had a play on their display model and I convinced myself the screen on that one was better! But, I'd love a second opinion!
Cheers!
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I see an difference in the white background yes... but other that that? Nope... it's just you...
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I see an difference in the white background yes... but other that that? Nope... it's just you...
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Well, when I say "see" I meant on their own One S rather than on my screenshot.
I sometimes notice it being a bit pink when the brightness is set low, have you tired using auto brightness or putting it a bit higher?
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I sometimes notice it being a bit pink when the brightness is set low, have you tired using auto brightness or putting it a bit higher?
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Same here, it is pinkish only on low brightness.
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Same here, it is pinkish only on low brightness.
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Hmm. Other than at 100% brightness, it still seems pinkish. I finally get to persuade CPW to give me a replacement tomorrow...
That's looking odd definitely. Let us know if the replacement is better.
I haven't noticed any issue on mine
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mine screen is definitely on the warm side of things (meaning the whites are yellow'ish). seeing how One X has a yellow tint issue (different screen manufacturers involved it seems) and you're playing a screen lottery i wonder if One S is the same. slightly warmer screens is not an issue per se but a strong yellow tint definitely effects the overall brightness and sharpness. i would love to compare different units in store to see if One S with cooler screens actually exist.
the pink tint is a straight up defect, however.
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Hmm. Other than at 100% brightness, it still seems pinkish. I finally get to persuade CPW to give me a replacement tomorrow...
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This probably won't help you. It won't hurt I guess, but this is something that can be worked out with a software solution. The SGS had something called Voodoo Colors, and I'm assuming that at some point that'll make it to the One S, as it's an AMOLED device as well. The colors changing on low brightness is one of the characteristics of an AMOLED screen.
As a poster above recommended, install that tool and set adjust the values for now. In due time, this'll be worked out. HTC just didnt do a great job with their color profile.
They're not at all awesome!
I'm coming from a Galaxy Nexus (Amoled display) which has close to perfect black levels, and a ASUS Transformer (IPS display) which while it wasn't to brag about, it was better than the Galaxy Note 10.1's screen.
I was really looking forward to the PLS display on the Note, I heard nothing but great reviews on the tech, but this is really bad.
I mean the blacks aren't even even, its more purple than black.
Is this normal for PLS?
Is anyone else having this issue?
Were there any mods that can be done that fix this issue on other Samsung PLS tablets?
I don't see anything wrong with the black level but I haven't tried using the tablet in the dark yet. Don't compare AMOLED with LCD. LCD will always have ****ty black because of the backlight. The only LCD type I know that has decent black level is CPVA but it's not used in tablets and it's still far from perfect. Asus Transformer TF101 has much worse black level (I have both). Are you talkin about some newer Transformer? Or maybe your brightness is set too high?
Also keep in mind that a lot of websites don't use pure black fonts.
Try turning the display mode up to vibrant and reducing the the brightness.
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if he's referring to the infinity, it's got a very annoying dynamic contrast. the screen dims and brightens as the screen changes, but it's not very discreet at doing so. my main reason for rooting the tf700 was to disable this stupid feature.
I'm sure I'm missing aomething, but I have a decent sum tied up in a plasma and HT equipment to get blacks close to right at home, so am always amazed to see people moan about black levela on $500 mobile device. I'm still amazed I can watch pretty hifh quality movies and even live tv on a mobile device like this, and just cant imagime being worried about blacks unless just atrocious. Am I expecting too little froma device like this?
I was referring to the tf101, but I went to best buy again and compared it to the demo model and realized mine was completely off.
So I TiB backed it up, flash that bad boy back to stock and exchanged it. This new screen is way better.
Although the viewing angles aren't amazing its still an awesome tablet.
Yeah, the viewing angles are the only disappointment for me.
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Yeah, the viewing angles are the only disappointment for me.
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Ive never really gotten the whole viewing angle argument. I pretty much look right at my tablet when using it.
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Ive never really gotten the whole viewing angle argument. I pretty much look right at my tablet when using it.
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maybe his significantly other has confiscated the device and the only way to use it is over her shoulder
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Ive never really gotten the whole viewing angle argument. I pretty much look right at my tablet when using it.
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Some are pretty bad like the iPad3 where if you're not directly front and center there is significant brightness fall off.