Okay. Ignore the title, I couldn't think of anything to put. In short, I want to know about roms, about clockworkmod, cyanogen mod, and stuff like that. What they do, how to put them on, and I pretty much wanna know about the general stuff you do past rooting your phone. And I know that the section says No Noobs, but technically, I'm a newb, as far as I know i'm not annoying anyone or being completely nooblike.
Mainly with cyanogen. I read the instructions, and they seem too, I dont know, simplistic. I'd prefer exact details. Like, after I have clockwork mod installed, and I flash cyanogen, can i restore all the stuff I had on it? And once cyanogen is on there, is it already rooted, or must i root again? And if someone would explain to me how clockworkmod works in the first place. And how would I flash cyanogen? I thought it'd be through clockworkmod, but if I wipe everything and factory reset, wouldn't clockworkmod be gone?
My phone is a Samsung Galaxy S (Vibrant or not vibrant, I dont even know) It's a GT-i9000M. Running android 2.2.1, Rooted, I have clockworkmod installed, but still no idea what to do past that point. Also, my Kies isn't telling me about any 3.x upgrade, so how would i go about manually installing a new version of android? I know it has to do with Odin, but whenever i tried i ended up not doing anything.
And one last thing about MetaMorph. Where could i find themes for it? And do i need to have a certain Rom running in order to use metamorph themes?
I'm mainly used to iPhones and such, where there isnt really much to do besides jailbreaking and such, and moving on to android phones is pretty intense. XD So much more to do with Android phones.
Well uh, thats about all i can think of at the moment. Also please post anything you feel that a (somewhat) newb to android modding should know.
Sorry for all the questions, and to those that help me, I love you. <3
And if any moderators deem this thread as against the 'No Noobs' rule, at least send me a message telling me you deleted it, or else I'll end up looking endlessly through the forums for my thread. I've done that before, not fun. LOL (Couldn't find a 'My Threads' thingy on the forum i was using.
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Okay. Ignore the title, I couldn't think of anything to put. In short, I want to know about roms, about clockworkmod, cyanogen mod, and stuff like that. What they do, how to put them on, and I pretty much wanna know about the general stuff you do past rooting your phone. And I know that the section says No Noobs, but technically, I'm a newb, as far as I know i'm not annoying anyone or being completely nooblike.
Mainly with cyanogen. I read the instructions, and they seem too, I dont know, simplistic. I'd prefer exact details. Like, after I have clockwork mod installed, and I flash cyanogen, can i restore all the stuff I had on it? And once cyanogen is on there, is it already rooted, or must i root again? And if someone would explain to me how clockworkmod works in the first place. And how would I flash cyanogen? I thought it'd be through clockworkmod, but if I wipe everything and factory reset, wouldn't clockworkmod be gone?
My phone is a Samsung Galaxy S (Vibrant or not vibrant, I dont even know) It's a GT-i9000M. Running android 2.2.1, Rooted, I have clockworkmod installed, but still no idea what to do past that point. Also, my Kies isn't telling me about any 3.x upgrade, so how would i go about manually installing a new version of android? I know it has to do with Odin, but whenever i tried i ended up not doing anything.
And one last thing about MetaMorph. Where could i find themes for it? And do i need to have a certain Rom running in order to use metamorph themes?
I'm mainly used to iPhones and such, where there isnt really much to do besides jailbreaking and such, and moving on to android phones is pretty intense. XD So much more to do with Android phones.
Well uh, thats about all i can think of at the moment. Also please post anything you feel that a (somewhat) newb to android modding should know.
Sorry for all the questions, and to those that help me, I love you. <3
And if any moderators deem this thread as against the 'No Noobs' rule, at least send me a message telling me you deleted it, or else I'll end up looking endlessly through the forums for my thread. I've done that before, not fun. LOL (Couldn't find a 'My Threads' thingy on the forum i was using.
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Well, I guess to first start off, here's a few pointers:
1. don't put the title in 1337 (people will most likely not click on it, thus no help)
2. you're right about this being the wrong thread. You should post this under the Samsung Galaxy S section (google your model number and you'll see it instantly) and should probably try the Q&A moreso than a general area (but it doesn't really matter all too much)
3. no matter how nooblike you may or may not be, you're still a noob XD
Now that we've gotten past the anally parts and all (hate doing that, but gotta =P), let's talk about what you came here for: answers.
Let's start with some definitions:
ROMs - these are the (usually modded) softwares that you flash to your phone. Depending on which phone you have, you can only flash ROMs made for your phone. Of course, if you have root/custom recovery, you can also install custom ROMs.
ClockWorkMod (CWM) is a recovery system made in order to allow people more features while they're in recovery mode. Of course, this is one of a few out there, but people stick to CWM cause of its huge support plus it's popularity. When you think of CWM, think of custom features being installed in (almost) one step (modding files and such will be taken care of for you, so you don't have to do it yourself). You can usually also fix a bricked system this way by reflashing either the entire ROM or the boot.img/other files (we'll get to this in a second)
CyanogenMod (CM) is an example of a very popular custom rom. They have a great team and usually is available for most devices, which in turn makes them so popular. It is widely supported and has a lot of extra features like updating to the latest OS and features not previously available on your phone. It's skinned, but usually follows the stock Android look for the OS in which they've skinned.
lol The reason why the instructions look so simple is because they've taken out all the hard work and all the stuff where you can possibly screw up your phone, so that they don't get a million messages saying "OMG MY PHONE BRICKED WHAT HAPPENED" and stuff like that. Protects them, makes it easier for you. If you had made a backup before you flashed CM (usually you only have to back up whats on the phone if it has internal and external memory, but back up your sd card always just in case. never hurt to), then yes. If you backed it up with your previous ROM, then you'll probably need to revert to get it back. If you didn't, chances are whatever you didn't backup and didn't sync, is safe to say gone. You can try recovering it using a recovery software on the computer like i detailed here for another person, but of course you'd skip the whole trying to save the phone part and just start with mounting the phone to your computer and running the software.
CM is a custom rom, and so most (if not all) custom roms have root preinstalled (besides, who wouldn't want root?!) As for CWM, it works by being (usually) flashed into the recovery partition of your phone. The nice thing about the phone is that it's split up into parts: boot, recovery, system, and some other ones i can't think of off the top of my head. Those three are important, as if you get a softbrick, you might still be able to recover all your data simply by using CWM/fastboot (a dev-tool used to flash/unlock, but only available in certain phones, as it is disabled usually) to reflash the boot.img (one requires command line, whereas CWM only needs you to flash a created/pre-made package). Also, since they're in separate partitions, even if your system and boot.img doesn't work, you can probably still access recovery (unless you screwed up really REALLY bad, and in that case I can't help >.<)
Observant you are =] Yes, if you were to flash CM, your CWM will be gone (i don't understand why most people don't just bake it into the ROM in the first place) but, not all is lost. Just go back into the Android Market and redownload ROM Manager. Of course you'll need to open it up and flash the same exact recovery again (annoying, isn't it?) but unless you know how to mod zip/img files and edit the script, you'll just have to make do with that. If you do, you could just (usually) take out the recovery partition and just leave the one you have already in there (but its usually safer and better to just redownload/reflash it as annoying as it is). But yes, you would use CWM to flash it. It's as simple as "Install from SD Card" which is why custom recoveries like CWM are popular. So simple
At this point, I would look into a few things. One is skinning your phone (though you probably can't do too much if you don't want to touch system files). If you find a psuedo-rom (slightly modded) that themes it, that's your best bet. Another is gaining access to certain features in apps you didn't have before (i.e. androidLost, LBE Privacy Guard, titanium backup) and of course more control by the ability to control your system files (if you know what you're doing, of course). Lastly, you can use stuff like MetaMorph to theme out certain sections of your rom (provided that they give you one compatible with your phone model/rom), minus having to flash it and having more fine-tuned controlled. Usually, Metamorph will run on all ROMs, but it doesn't guarantee that there'll be stuff for every ROM. Also, want themes? google it (google is your best friend!)
Kies won't tell you that you have an upgrade because it is ROM-dependent. It looks for their official ROM and says "Hey, this guy has our ROM. Check for an update". Think of owning a custom rom like being kicked out of your family. You won't get anymore updates from them XD. However, if you're looking to get the latest updates, check out the Samsung Galaxy S Dev threads. They will usually have another method of loading in the new ROM into your phone. And if you want to stick with ROM Manager, shell out for premium and they'll include "Check for Updates" in ROM Manager, along with several other functions (though you can check for free via computer/browser ). Mostly, manually updating the software requires the "Install from SD Card" feature in CWM/other recoveries, so you don't have much to worry about.
Odin is, as you stated, most likely your best bet. Not too many people repackage official ROMs into easy-to-flash zips. Odin is the Samsung equivalent to Motorola's RSD Lite from what I googled (i have motorola, so no exp. on odin >.<) It's mostly like a dev tool allowing you to flash/re-flash phones and is also usually your one-way ticket out of a semi/full brick (assuming you didn't mess up the hardware and you can get into download mode). It's the flashing tool that can access the core system of the phone even without root and allows you to reflash OFFICIAL ROMs. Should you use Odin (should be your last resort), you WILL lose root and all your data. No questions asked. Its like reinstalling everything to the state in which you got it in when you bought the phone. Word of advice: BACK UP OFTEN! (did i forget to mention Titanium Backup? )
Yeah, the transition from Apple to Android is so different and had I not had experience with my PSP, i'd be dying with the information overload. However, just read a lot of stuff on the forums (*cough*general android forums*cough*) and you should be just fine. We have an excellent community here that will try our best to fix whatever problems you encounter (note the key word: try. we're not gods XD) You'll get the hang of it soon enough.
Oh, well, I don't want to keep you for much longer, but since you mentioned something that any noob should know, it's definitely ADB (Android Debugging Bridge). This is where you'll probably spend a lot of time, as people's fixes usually involve shell (terminal for your phone). If anything, get acquainted with it, as it might save your butt in the future/unlock a few extra features for you ;D .
Well, that's all i can think of, and honestly, after typing this thing up for about an hour now, I think I'm going to grab me some breakfast Good luck to you and welcome to the Android commmunity! (and next time, remember to post in the right place! XD)
~jojojohnson7410
P.S. PM me if you need anything. =]
Observant you are =] Yes, if you were to flash CM, your CWM will be gone (i don't understand why most people don't just bake it into the ROM in the first place) but, not all is lost. Just go back into the Android Market and redownload ROM Manager. Of course you'll need to open it up and flash the same exact recovery again (annoying, isn't it?) but unless you know how to mod zip/img files and edit the script, you'll just have to make do with that. If you do, you could just (usually) take out the recovery partition and just leave the one you have already in there (but its usually safer and better to just redownload/reflash it as annoying as it is). But yes, you would use CWM to flash it. It's as simple as "Install from SD Card" which is why custom recoveries like CWM are popular. So simple
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Just to nit-pick a bit. CWM is part of the recovery partition, and unless the Galaxy S is different from every other android device, flashing will not remove it. ROM Manager and CWM are two different things. ROM manager will allow you to download the roms, which will then instruct CWM to flash the rom (when it reboots).
jojojohnson7410 said:
Well, I guess to first start off, here's a few pointers:
1. don't put the title in 1337 (people will most likely not click on it, thus no help)
2. you're right about this being the wrong thread. You should post this under the Samsung Galaxy S section (google your model number and you'll see it instantly) and should probably try the Q&A moreso than a general area (but it doesn't really matter all too much)
3. no matter how nooblike you may or may not be, you're still a noob XD
Now that we've gotten past the anally parts and all (hate doing that, but gotta =P), let's talk about what you came here for: answers.
Let's start with some definitions:
ROMs - these are the (usually modded) softwares that you flash to your phone. Depending on which phone you have, you can only flash ROMs made for your phone. Of course, if you have root/custom recovery, you can also install custom ROMs.
ClockWorkMod (CWM) is a recovery system made in order to allow people more features while they're in recovery mode. Of course, this is one of a few out there, but people stick to CWM cause of its huge support plus it's popularity. When you think of CWM, think of custom features being installed in (almost) one step (modding files and such will be taken care of for you, so you don't have to do it yourself). You can usually also fix a bricked system this way by reflashing either the entire ROM or the boot.img/other files (we'll get to this in a second)
CyanogenMod (CM) is an example of a very popular custom rom. They have a great team and usually is available for most devices, which in turn makes them so popular. It is widely supported and has a lot of extra features like updating to the latest OS and features not previously available on your phone. It's skinned, but usually follows the stock Android look for the OS in which they've skinned.
lol The reason why the instructions look so simple is because they've taken out all the hard work and all the stuff where you can possibly screw up your phone, so that they don't get a million messages saying "OMG MY PHONE BRICKED WHAT HAPPENED" and stuff like that. Protects them, makes it easier for you. If you had made a backup before you flashed CM (usually you only have to back up whats on the phone if it has internal and external memory, but back up your sd card always just in case. never hurt to), then yes. If you backed it up with your previous ROM, then you'll probably need to revert to get it back. If you didn't, chances are whatever you didn't backup and didn't sync, is safe to say gone. You can try recovering it using a recovery software on the computer like i detailed here for another person, but of course you'd skip the whole trying to save the phone part and just start with mounting the phone to your computer and running the software.
CM is a custom rom, and so most (if not all) custom roms have root preinstalled (besides, who wouldn't want root?!) As for CWM, it works by being (usually) flashed into the recovery partition of your phone. The nice thing about the phone is that it's split up into parts: boot, recovery, system, and some other ones i can't think of off the top of my head. Those three are important, as if you get a softbrick, you might still be able to recover all your data simply by using CWM/fastboot (a dev-tool used to flash/unlock, but only available in certain phones, as it is disabled usually) to reflash the boot.img (one requires command line, whereas CWM only needs you to flash a created/pre-made package). Also, since they're in separate partitions, even if your system and boot.img doesn't work, you can probably still access recovery (unless you screwed up really REALLY bad, and in that case I can't help >.<)
Observant you are =] Yes, if you were to flash CM, your CWM will be gone (i don't understand why most people don't just bake it into the ROM in the first place) but, not all is lost. Just go back into the Android Market and redownload ROM Manager. Of course you'll need to open it up and flash the same exact recovery again (annoying, isn't it?) but unless you know how to mod zip/img files and edit the script, you'll just have to make do with that. If you do, you could just (usually) take out the recovery partition and just leave the one you have already in there (but its usually safer and better to just redownload/reflash it as annoying as it is). But yes, you would use CWM to flash it. It's as simple as "Install from SD Card" which is why custom recoveries like CWM are popular. So simple
At this point, I would look into a few things. One is skinning your phone (though you probably can't do too much if you don't want to touch system files). If you find a psuedo-rom (slightly modded) that themes it, that's your best bet. Another is gaining access to certain features in apps you didn't have before (i.e. androidLost, LBE Privacy Guard, titanium backup) and of course more control by the ability to control your system files (if you know what you're doing, of course). Lastly, you can use stuff like MetaMorph to theme out certain sections of your rom (provided that they give you one compatible with your phone model/rom), minus having to flash it and having more fine-tuned controlled. Usually, Metamorph will run on all ROMs, but it doesn't guarantee that there'll be stuff for every ROM. Also, want themes? google it (google is your best friend!)
Kies won't tell you that you have an upgrade because it is ROM-dependent. It looks for their official ROM and says "Hey, this guy has our ROM. Check for an update". Think of owning a custom rom like being kicked out of your family. You won't get anymore updates from them XD. However, if you're looking to get the latest updates, check out the Samsung Galaxy S Dev threads. They will usually have another method of loading in the new ROM into your phone. And if you want to stick with ROM Manager, shell out for premium and they'll include "Check for Updates" in ROM Manager, along with several other functions (though you can check for free via computer/browser ). Mostly, manually updating the software requires the "Install from SD Card" feature in CWM/other recoveries, so you don't have much to worry about.
Odin is, as you stated, most likely your best bet. Not too many people repackage official ROMs into easy-to-flash zips. Odin is the Samsung equivalent to Motorola's RSD Lite from what I googled (i have motorola, so no exp. on odin >.<) It's mostly like a dev tool allowing you to flash/re-flash phones and is also usually your one-way ticket out of a semi/full brick (assuming you didn't mess up the hardware and you can get into download mode). It's the flashing tool that can access the core system of the phone even without root and allows you to reflash OFFICIAL ROMs. Should you use Odin (should be your last resort), you WILL lose root and all your data. No questions asked. Its like reinstalling everything to the state in which you got it in when you bought the phone. Word of advice: BACK UP OFTEN! (did i forget to mention Titanium Backup? )
Yeah, the transition from Apple to Android is so different and had I not had experience with my PSP, i'd be dying with the information overload. However, just read a lot of stuff on the forums (*cough*general android forums*cough*) and you should be just fine. We have an excellent community here that will try our best to fix whatever problems you encounter (note the key word: try. we're not gods XD) You'll get the hang of it soon enough.
Oh, well, I don't want to keep you for much longer, but since you mentioned something that any noob should know, it's definitely ADB (Android Debugging Bridge). This is where you'll probably spend a lot of time, as people's fixes usually involve shell (terminal for your phone). If anything, get acquainted with it, as it might save your butt in the future/unlock a few extra features for you ;D .
Well, that's all i can think of, and honestly, after typing this thing up for about an hour now, I think I'm going to grab me some breakfast Good luck to you and welcome to the Android commmunity! (and next time, remember to post in the right place! XD)
~jojojohnson7410
P.S. PM me if you need anything. =]
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Wow, thanks a lot. I still have a question or two, bear with me.
Well for one, is flashing roms made for different firmwares alright, or no? Since I have 2.2, and im assuming the latest cyanogen is made for 3.x, would I have to upgrade my firmware to the corresponding firmware.
And about Clockwork, if my phone bricks, I'd have to restore using odin, right? But if the phone still works, i can just root and cwm and restore it using rom manager?
And uh, I'm not sure if this is a problem or im just doing something wrong, but in RomManager, i click Backup Current ROM, and it goes into recovery mode, and theres no new options, there's just like, format, factory reset, clear cache, reboot, but nothing involving rom manager. And when i check for the recovery file in my sd card, it's not. Wut do.
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Just to nit-pick a bit. CWM is part of the recovery partition, and unless the Galaxy S is different from every other android device, flashing will not remove it. ROM Manager and CWM are two different things. ROM manager will allow you to download the roms, which will then instruct CWM to flash the rom (when it reboots).
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lol true true that would be my mistake. XD Nice catch
~jojojohnson7410
Gutana said:
Wow, thanks a lot. I still have a question or two, bear with me.
Well for one, is flashing roms made for different firmwares alright, or no? Since I have 2.2, and im assuming the latest cyanogen is made for 3.x, would I have to upgrade my firmware to the corresponding firmware.
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No, you wouldn't have to upgrade to the latest firmware to get the ROM installed. So long as the ROM is confirmed to work for your device, you can flash any ROM you want (which is convenient in my case since I have an Atrix 4G and it was oh-so-lonely without some Gingerbread XD)
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And about Clockwork, if my phone bricks, I'd have to restore using odin, right? But if the phone still works, i can just root and cwm and restore it using rom manager?
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Well, the thing is, you really only need that usually if you're on a stock rom or some official version and either you want to flash a new stock ROM from Samsung or you want to pull your phone out of a brick. Most of the time, however, even if you bricked it, so long as you can get into the recovery menu, you'll be alright. Just re-flash the ROM that you want (or in my case yesterday when I was dealing with an Inspire, I had to use a different ROM to unbrick the phone. I don't know why this happen, but it was being nit-picky >.<)
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And uh, I'm not sure if this is a problem or im just doing something wrong, but in RomManager, i click Backup Current ROM, and it goes into recovery mode, and theres no new options, there's just like, format, factory reset, clear cache, reboot, but nothing involving rom manager. And when i check for the recovery file in my sd card, it's not. Wut do.
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lol nooo this is not a problem at all. See, like the guy above me posted, the Recovery Menu is completely separate from anything in the ROM. It's located in the recovery partition rather than the system and the boot partitions, so they usually don't touch the recovery. ROM Manager is just a means of providing GUI to CWM so then you can either flash the CWM to your phone or help download ROMS into your SD card. Stuff like backup and everything needs you to boot into recovery as you can't be backing up the system while your system is mounted on, so they send you to CWM. From there, there's an option called "backup and restore". In this place, you can choose where to save the backup. And since the backup is made by CWM, it will be recognized by CWM if you want to restore it. I think it saves it in a zip file, but im not 100% positive, so take that one with a grain of salt.
Hope this answers the questions! Let me know if you need more help (or just PM me. I check that regularly )
~jojojohnson7410
jojojohnson7410 said:
No, you wouldn't have to upgrade to the latest firmware to get the ROM installed. So long as the ROM is confirmed to work for your device, you can flash any ROM you want (which is convenient in my case since I have an Atrix 4G and it was oh-so-lonely without some Gingerbread XD)
Well, the thing is, you really only need that usually if you're on a stock rom or some official version and either you want to flash a new stock ROM from Samsung or you want to pull your phone out of a brick. Most of the time, however, even if you bricked it, so long as you can get into the recovery menu, you'll be alright. Just re-flash the ROM that you want (or in my case yesterday when I was dealing with an Inspire, I had to use a different ROM to unbrick the phone. I don't know why this happen, but it was being nit-picky >.<)
lol nooo this is not a problem at all. See, like the guy above me posted, the Recovery Menu is completely separate from anything in the ROM. It's located in the recovery partition rather than the system and the boot partitions, so they usually don't touch the recovery. ROM Manager is just a means of providing GUI to CWM so then you can either flash the CWM to your phone or help download ROMS into your SD card. Stuff like backup and everything needs you to boot into recovery as you can't be backing up the system while your system is mounted on, so they send you to CWM. From there, there's an option called "backup and restore". In this place, you can choose where to save the backup. And since the backup is made by CWM, it will be recognized by CWM if you want to restore it. I think it saves it in a zip file, but im not 100% positive, so take that one with a grain of salt.
Hope this answers the questions! Let me know if you need more help (or just PM me. I check that regularly )
~jojojohnson7410
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But theres no backup and restore options, its jut the recovery options you'd get if you were on a brand new phone.
Ok so I've successfully unlocked my 4g slide that has the new OTA and is running the new HBoot. I flashed a new recovery (clockwork 5.0.2.7-doubleshot)..... Hboot unlocked, w/ Son And all is well. Now for my quesion.
From what I've read on the two latest stickied threads (thanks to the aurthors very easy steps to follow, I'll post the proper thank u's in the specific threads after my 10 post cherry pops) I should be able to gain su, and flash a custom rom all at the same time by, updating my boot.img, rebooting into recovery and then flashing my rom of choice. What's the command line to flash the rom?????
I know to flash the boot.img command is:
fastboot flash boot boot.img
But what's the command to flash the rom after rebooting into recovery?
Thanks in advance I rooted my g1 many moons ago and loved it, I've been waiting for some straight forward steps for the 4g slide, and ofcourse xda would be the place to go.
Um im kinda a noob aswell but all i do is power off my phone and hold power & vol down at same time then hit roob in recovery and install rom from SD card then when finsished reboot phone ?? idk if that helps you
humm...
Ok so it sounds like after the boot.img, and reboot in recov., u are just installing the rom from the sd card.
So does that automatically pick up the rom zip file that is being housed in the folder with fastboot, when plugged up via usb to the cpu, or is it actually installing a zip that you have placed the sd card?
Sorry to get super specific with the steps, I'm just so close id hate to paper weight it now.
Yea, you really can't brick it. Go ahead, I dare you to try. So far only one person that I know of has managed to do it, and they were doing something they absolutely should not have been and had to go way out of their way to accomplish it.
The days i've heard about of sub-standard NAND chips and unreliable hardware are long since past for anyone who purchases a quality device on the market today - and the doubleshot is the best in it's class without contention.
But, yes, you choose the option in clockworkmod recovery that says "install zip from sdcard", on the next menu choose "install zip from sdcard" and then it dumps you onto the sdcard and you have to find the zip you want to flash.
Pretty easy, if you already have a custom recovery the hard part is behind you. But no shame in getting stuck or being overly cautious - I am that way by nature and can appreciate the reservations. If you have any more questions don't hesitate to ask.
Much apprecitated.... Its been a minute but when I did my g1 I was flashing straight from the sd card, I guess interacting with fasboot through the command prompt made me a little more cautious.
I'm going to go to a custom rom as soon as I get home, I'll post an update a little later, though I may not be able to power up in the bootloader with four fingers crossed <--- a terrible attempt at humor
To flash the rom, you'll want to go into recovery and use the "install file from zip" option, or something like that. From there, you can pick the zip that contains your rom.
Edit: whoops, didn't read blue's post because the text on my phone is too small. G'luck with your ROM flashing
ok so im back, it was touch and go for a second but i was successful, new rom, superuser and the whole nine.
had some trouble trying to flash Virtuous Quatro , i wouldnt mind trying that one, but i did get to load double shot lite. after some additional reading it seems like its a good stock rom, so im cool wit that.... now i can play around with some others
flashed pyro ice 1.1.2 and its pretty sick much better than the standard default rom, looks like now i need to figure out how to not loose so much data on a switch over, had my contacts synced but i lost half of them.
Things to learn:
file/app back ups - for quicker installation of fav apps
reliable contact sync (back up)
how to get this damn browser working...arggh
since i still cant post in the dev. threads to troubleshoot any suggestions or assistance would be appreciated
Titanium backup for backing up and restoring (apps although it can cause problems)
And as far as your contacts go they chould be linked with your google account, but to be safe you can go to contacts> Menu> More> Import/ Export and export your contacts as a vcard and import them in a new rom.
The browser idk. Maybe try clearing data and cache on it.
Thanks mark, your dead on i did a little picking around in and figured out app back up, i sinc the contatcs and exported a vcard.
As far as the browser i think it may be a problem with the stock browser, but from what im told opera, or qqbrowser should work fine. Havent tetsted yet but i will
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This is coming from an apprehensive stock HTC Sensation user. I long to have AOSP ICS or CM9, but I must have a 100% success rate. I just can't mess things up, as there is no time to have the phone down for even an hour.
So what causes them to brick? I hear you all say to follow the directions, but what if they aren't clear? It's like when you try to teach someone something you have done for a long time; there are things that you just assume you do that are not spoken of.
What are things that are always assumed when you are in the process of rooting and changing ROMs? Trying a new kernel? (For instance, always superwipe here, but only a dalvik there...)
Thank you very much.
The directions dont leave out any steps. The guides are very thorough.
Bricking is caused basically when you screw up the ability of the phone to boot into the bootloader or accept commands from a computer. Many other things will prevent the phone from working, but other stuff is usually easily fixed. The big problems are caused by something going wrong while the bootloader is being altered. If you kill the bootloader, there is no bootloaderrr to get to where you can fix things.
But on the sensatio you almost have to try to do that by doing something stupid like pulling the battery while the bootloader is being modified. The software you use to root this phone is fairly idiot proof and does all the work for you.
However.....the first time you root a phone you will go really slowly (as you should) and your down time will be at least an hour from the time you first start to the time when you have a working phone again.
It can be done in as little as 15 minutes, but for your first time you will be super meticulous about everything and itll take an hour.
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Honestly, just don't mess up any commands in revolutionary.io - seriously, double, triple, then quadruple check those commands - those who are inexperienced in command line tend to miss a thing or two.
Then, if for whatever reason you have to update the firmware, make sure you flash the right thing, and make sure you don't pull the battery while you're doing it.
Those two things should give you that 100% success rate, then again, nothing's ever 100% certain.
What are things that are always assumed when you are in the process of rooting and changing ROMs? Trying a new kernel? (For instance, always superwipe here, but only a dalvik there...)
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When changing roms, wipe data + cache. If you want, you can also wipe system and boot but it's not necessary. When flashing a kernel, wipe cache + dalvik cache. When it comes to rooting and what not in general, anything you flash in recovery is 100% safe. As in, worst case scenario, you'll have to reinstall your current rom. However, you'll never accidentally flash something from recovery that will kill your bootloader. Think of it like so:
BOOTLOADER > RECOVERY > ROM
The bootloader is the lowest level interaction you have. It's like your PCs BIOS. Recovery is kind of like a mini OS that can change the main OS. The rom is the OS you have installed.
Oh man, you guys are great! Starting to lose my anxiety about rooting now...
In what cases would you be altering the bootloader, or have the opportunity to corrupt it?
When you have a file you want, do you always flash it? To where? What files need to be under /root? I have heard of flashable zip files; flashable as opposed to what?
What is the best method of data backup (Besides a full nandroid)? Do you recommend Titanium Backup (Pro)? Does it always work? Is this a smarter alternative?
I really do apologize for the amount of questions. I want to be totally confident of knowledgeable of what I am doing.
Much thanks!
Titanium is great. Use is.
You will modify the bootloader during thevs off process. (Takes just seconds)
You may have to downgrade the bootloader if you have version 1.27.
Dont use the htc unlocker. Use revolutionary (search for more details)
Flashable zips are what you will use to install roms and kernels. You will install these from the recovery module.
The bootloader is where you will install new firmware or radios.
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forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1192300
Everything you need to know.
But use 4ext instead of Clockwork when you are done. (Simple market download)
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Thank you so much Skipjacks! I plan on using 4ext if I root. So, when would there be non-flashable zip files? I have heard people say "I'll wait until their is a flashable zip file". So what is the difference? (I hope I have enough thanks left to thank you after this. )
I've read a lot within the HTC inspire section, and from there I've rooted the phone (I see I have super user in my drawer) but from here I'm looking for a sense 4.0 ROM that I can install. The instructions are very overwhelming. Is there someone who could please give me easy instructions on how to install a ROM? Thank you.
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I've read a lot within the HTC inspire section, and from there I've rooted the phone (I see I have super user in my drawer) but from here I'm looking for a sense 4.0 ROM that I can install. The instructions are very overwhelming. Is there someone who could please give me easy instructions on how to install a ROM? Thank you.
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Wipe and flash, if that's too much work for you to understand you shouldn't be doing this
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kellsizzle88 said:
I've read a lot within the HTC inspire section, and from there I've rooted the phone (I see I have super user in my drawer) but from here I'm looking for a sense 4.0 ROM that I can install. The instructions are very overwhelming. Is there someone who could please give me easy instructions on how to install a ROM? Thank you.
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No one is gonna spoon feed this to you. this is about development and learning. if you are too lazy to spend time and learn than this is probably too much for you and you should stay stock. people stop thinking rom flashing is the 'in thing' to do because you have an android phone and you googled 'cool hacks for android'
Search how to flash a custom rom on HTC inspire
Send From My Galaxy Gio and O2x
This was hard....http://lmgtfy.com/?q=flash+custom+rom+HTC+Inspire+4G
kellsizzle88 said:
I've read a lot within the HTC inspire section, and from there I've rooted the phone (I see I have super user in my drawer) but from here I'm looking for a sense 4.0 ROM that I can install. The instructions are very overwhelming. Is there someone who could please give me easy instructions on how to install a ROM? Thank you.
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Flashing your first ROM:
-Download the ROM of your choice from the dev section
-Do not unpack/unzip the ROM
-Copy the ROM to the root of your sd card (Root= not in a folder)
-(optional) Backup your apps using Titanium Backup.(this only applies once you have root)
-Create a backup of your current ROM using rom manager.(this only applies once you have root)
-Boot your phone into recovery using either rom manager, or by booting into h-boot (to do this you are going to need to turn fastboot off by going to settings>applications>uncheck fast boot, then turn your phone off and turn it back on pressing both power+volume down, until the h-boot menu appears. Use the volume buttons to scroll down to recovery then press power to select.)
-Using the volume buttons scroll down to to down to wipe data/factory reset. (unless you are upgrading, THIS STEP IS NOT OPTIONAL!)
-Press the power button to select.
-Use the volume buttons to scroll down to YES-- delete all user data, use the power button to select.
-Scroll down to Advanced press power to select.
-Scroll to Wipe Dalvik Cache press power to select.
-Go down to Yes-- Wipe Dalvik Cache use the power button to select.
-Select go back
-Go to Install zip from sdcard and select it using the power button.
-Select choose zip from sdcard.
-Scroll down and find the ROM you wish to flash press the power button to select it.
-Select Yes - Install (roms name))
-You are now flashing a rom!
-Once the rom has finished flashing select reboot system now.
Things to note:
-Your first boot might take a few minutes do to deodexing and zip align.
-If your phone keeps cycling the HTC (white screen) you are going to need to go back to recovery, do a full wipe, and reflash the rom.
-Be sure to read the devs full instructions and faq before flashing!
Welcome to XDA and enjoy the learning my advice start to learn how to flash roms with 4ext its the latest and easiest way but for now the heres your first lesson.
http://www.androidauthority.com/how-to-flash-custom-roms-on-android-phones-23141/
Wht so mean?
Why are you people so mean? I started by saying I read a lot! I DID READ and after reading it became overwhelming. I am sorry that the first few of you were bothered by my post. It probably would have been better served if you simply had not said anything. Try helping next time and not being so rude.
Reinaldo33897Thank you. This has focused me in on one area, this is all I needed. My gus=ess is you use this phone. I have had this since ne from AT&T expecting Android 4.0 to be available for the phone (or so the salesrep then said it would) In your opnion, what is the best,or the one, that you are using?
Thank you
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Why are you people so mean? I started by saying I read a lot! I DID READ and after reading it became overwhelming. I am sorry that the first few of you were bothered by my post. It probably would have been better served if you simply had not said anything. Try helping next time and not being so rude.
Reinaldo33897Thank you. This has focused me in on one area, this is all I needed. My gus=ess is you use this phone. I have had this since ne from AT&T expecting Android 4.0 to be available for the phone (or so the salesrep then said it would) In your opnion, what is the best,or the one, that you are using?
Thank you
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This is why:
FORUM RULES
1. Search before posting.
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
You agreed with the rules when u signed in. You come in here asking things that were answered many times. This is a development site and not Android 101. So, before whinning just check the rules and the threads. You might suprised of the power of the search buttom.
Besides, if you are overwhelmed by reading, how are you going to be if something goes wrong and u mess your phone? That is why u need to read...to be sure what u are about to. I was a noob (actually still am), but learnt to read and search...and take enough time to learn what to do and how....just a piece of advise....:good:
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Why are you people so mean? I started by saying I read a lot! I DID READ and after reading it became overwhelming. I am sorry that the first few of you were bothered by my post. It probably would have been better served if you simply had not said anything. Try helping next time and not being so rude.
Reinaldo33897Thank you. This has focused me in on one area, this is all I needed. My gus=ess is you use this phone. I have had this since ne from AT&T expecting Android 4.0 to be available for the phone (or so the salesrep then said it would) In your opnion, what is the best,or the one, that you are using?
Thank you
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There are some really great roms out there. We can also use the desire HD roms as well so we are not limited to just the inspire devs. If you want to try an awesome ICS rom give IceColdSandwich 8.1.1 a shot ver at DesireHD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1450962
Just one thing ICS is not officially released so the customs have a few bugs one being video cam not working but until the official release is out for the devs to gt the source codes we have to deal with it if we want ICS now. Gingerbread roms are solid.
There is also aospx here by exists as wll as roms Redemption and Melchizedek but these are No Sense ICS roms.
If you want to stick with sense try Android Revolution 9.04 as well as Coredroid they are very solid Gingerbread roms.
Once you learn to flash roms and feel comfortable with it try a few on for size and see what works best for you. What may be great with one person may be totally hated by another. Flashing is simple and cant really hurt once you feel comfortable.
Just one WARNING flashing radios are dangerous waters with the psibility of bricking the phone I would truly learn and learn more before you attempt that game. I dont bother cause radios are based on your region and where your located. Even if a dev says his rom works best with so-so radio I dont bother cause the dev may be in another country and Im in USA and the radio may not work. Tried it and got crap for service so now I stick with the stock radio that came with phone. Well sorry to write a book but enjoy we are here to help each other and the worse thing I hate is seeing someone turn their $400 into a paperweight.
Allow me to provide some input here ...
Given the nature of some replies posted in here, may I remind you about:
10. Help others if you can.
If you see posts from others where you can help out, please do. This place exists because people are helping each other, and even if you are relatively new to the matter, there's probably already quite a few people newer than you that would benefit from what you've learned. Don't be shy.
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The better lot I saw replying here are senior members, and as such I actually expect you guys to behave and act as such. If a question from someone who's entirely new to the matter - even if the answer can be found by searching - doesn't sit too well with you then either don't reply at all OR try to be helpful by pointing her/him into the right direction.
Consider this a "wiggly finger" with no further consequences.
Thank you for your attention.
I know it's confusing even for people like me who has been here to find a proper guide to install a (custom) ROM! I am assuming you do want to install a custom ROM! Basic steps are below:
First and foremost is to Root and S-off your device
You also will need a recovery. I use 4ext, and it works wonderful
Then go to the custom ROM you like, download and look for installation instructions
Put the zip file in the root of the SD card
Once you install recovery, then reboot to recovery and pick install from zip, and pick the custom ROM zip file you put at the root of your SD card
Also read through WIKI http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/HTC_Desire_HD, although some information is old, it do have lot of resources.
BTW, there is no such thing as best custom ROM, it all depends on what apps you use with and where you live. Best bet is to flash a ROM a day, and see what you like! Good luck.
Reinaldo33897 said:
There are some really great roms out there. We can also use the desire HD roms as well so we are not limited to just the inspire devs. If you want to try an awesome ICS rom give IceColdSandwich 8.1.1 a shot ver at DesireHD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1450962
Just one thing ICS is not officially released so the customs have a few bugs one being video cam not working but until the official release is out for the devs to gt the source codes we have to deal with it if we want ICS now. Gingerbread roms are solid.
There is also aospx here by exists as wll as roms Redemption and Melchizedek but these are No Sense ICS roms.
If you want to stick with sense try Android Revolution 9.04 as well as Coredroid they are very solid Gingerbread roms.
Once you learn to flash roms and feel comfortable with it try a few on for size and see what works best for you. What may be great with one person may be totally hated by another. Flashing is simple and cant really hurt once you feel comfortable.
Just one WARNING flashing radios are dangerous waters with the psibility of bricking the phone I would truly learn and learn more before you attempt that game. I dont bother cause radios are based on your region and where your located. Even if a dev says his rom works best with so-so radio I dont bother cause the dev may be in another country and Im in USA and the radio may not work. Tried it and got crap for service so now I stick with the stock radio that came with phone. Well sorry to write a book but enjoy we are here to help each other and the worse thing I hate is seeing someone turn their $400 into a paperweight.
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Allow me to provide some input here ...
Given the nature of some replies posted in here, may I remind you about:
The better lot I saw replying here are senior members, and as such I actually expect you guys to behave and act as such. If a question from someone who's entirely new to the matter - even if the answer can be found by searching - doesn't sit too well with you then either don't reply at all OR try to be helpful by pointing her/him into the right direction.
Consider this a "wiggly finger" with no further consequences.
Thank you for your attention.
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ai6908 said:
I know it's confusing even for people like me who has been here to find a proper guide to install a (custom) ROM! I am assuming you do want to install a custom ROM! Basic steps are below:
First and foremost is to Root and S-off your device
You also will need a recovery. I use 4ext, and it works wonderful
Then go to the custom ROM you like, download and look for installation instructions
Put the zip file in the root of the SD card
Once you install recovery, then reboot to recovery and pick install from zip, and pick the custom ROM zip file you put at the root of your SD card
Also read through WIKI http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/HTC_Desire_HD, although some information is old, it do have lot of resources.
BTW, there is no such thing as best custom ROM, it all depends on what apps you use with and where you live. Best bet is to flash a ROM a day, and see what you like! Good luck.
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The information was greatly appreciated. I have moved on and flashed. I did in fact only get it done today.... So even w/ excellent info, reading WAS still important. It is a nerve-racking endeavor but the end result is great
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It is a nerve-racking endeavor but the end result is great
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LoL...yes it sure is...I have bricked a phone while flashing...so always unlocking scares me, even now after many many htc devices!
Kellsizzle88, did everything work out? Is your phone still working well?
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I've read a lot within the HTC inspire section, and from there I've rooted the phone (I see I have super user in my drawer) but from here I'm looking for a sense 4.0 ROM that I can install. The instructions are very overwhelming. Is there someone who could please give me easy instructions on how to install a ROM? Thank you.
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check this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1745050
This may not be a traditional Q&A format, but I really wanted to make sure that the plan I have in mind is going to work out for me.
Hi! I'm a noob. I want to flash my first ROM ever after having gotten frustrated beyond belief with how often my Infuse crashes (every few hours I get the triple vibrate to crash). I've already rooted the Infuse and installed CWM though it seems that it was pointless for me to do both of these things as the steps I'm to follow seem to install the both of 'em.
Phone: Samsung Infuse
Carrier: AT&T
Current Firmware version: 2.2.1
Baseband version: I997UCKH1
Kernel version: 2.6.32.9
Build number: FROYO.UCKH1
ROM I want to install: Unofficial CM10
Steps I intend to take:
Back up with Titanium Backup (Free) - Done as according to ctkatz's thread.
I did not do a launcher backup, mostly because I don't know what it is and I don't believe I have one I'm interested in keeping. Also, I didn't use Rom Manager to make a nandroid backup since in the threads I've read the general consensus seems to be Rom Manager is REALLY AWESOME at bricking phones, but not so good for much else.. Rather, I booted into CWM and told it to make a backup. I'm under the impression this made a nandroid backup. If this didn't, please somebody let me know.
Install 2.3.6 Gingerbread via jscott30's thread and installing option D. And for some reason, this is the only step that requires me to use Odin. I'm not really sure why, if anybody wants to clear that up it'd be great!
Use Qksters EFS backup script to ensure that if I somehow mess things up, I can still save my phone! And to run this I just "flash" it like I would a ROM. Which is by selecting the install zip from sdcard option.
Follow Entropy's CM9 guide to go from GB to ICS And this is just because you can't jump from GB to JB? I'm assuming it's something along those lines. Either way, his guide seems straightforward enough. Also during this step, put the ROM, Overclock Kernel, and Gapp files for CM10 on my internal SD card.
Wipe in CWM
Flash the ROM in CWM
Flash Overclock Kernel in CWM because if I'm going through all this trouble to doctor my Android, I may as well give myself the ability to overclock it
Wipe Cache Partition in CWM I don't really know what this does, but I'm assuming it doesn't wipe anything I care about
Advanced/Wipe Dalvick Cache Same as the previous step. I don't know what it does, but I'm following instructions.
Reboot And I'm supposed to understand this first reboot will take like 5-10 minutes and I shouldn't run around my house crying that my phone broke when it takes a long time to reboot.
Wait 15 minutes and reboot a second time
Log into google account And this gets my contacts back
Restore user app data This gets my apps and my 3 starred all angry birds levels back?
CAREFULLY restore some system data that is green
And after that, I get to play around with my brand new shiny OS and enjoy my phone!
I apologize that this is not a very concise accumulation of questions, but there's not really a single guide that goes step by step through this ENTIRE process of going from Froyo to a customized jellybean OS while making sure you don't lose any app data. It's taken me about ~5 hours of reading through a number of topics and my brain is starting to feel fuzzy, so I really just wanted some of the more experienced members of the community to doublecheck my planning.
Thank you guys so much! Everybody in this community is just awesome for dumbing this process down for those of us who do not understanding the inner workings of a computer : ). I'm very appreciative!
You have pretty much the right idea.
There's a few pointer i would suggest. Back up your contacts to google. Save all your photos to your PC.
When you are making the move from 2.2.1 to 4.1.2 or 4.2, I would start it all new. I would not restore anything you had in froyo (2.2.1) to 4.1.2.
With that in mind, put your phone into download mode, flash jscott's gb with bootloaders.
Flash cm9 and then cm10 as instructed on their ops or andros's write up.
Also I noticed you have a step about flashing the OC kernel, but OC has now been integrated into the kernel that comes with the build.
And as qkster stated, avoid restoring data. If there is something essential you do not want to lose you may restore data for that specific app and in case you start having issues, you know what to blame.
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qkster said:
You have pretty much the right idea.
There's a few pointer i would suggest. Back up your contacts to google. Save all your photos to your PC.
When you are making the move from 2.2.1 to 4.1.2 or 4.2, I would start it all new. I would not restore anything you had in froyo (2.2.1) to 4.1.2.
With that in mind, put your phone into download mode, flash jscott's gb with bootloaders.
Flash cm9 and then cm10 as instructed on their ops or andros's write up.
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Luckily, the guide I read on backing up suggested both of those things, so I've done those.
I'm underway! I managed to successfully install the option D from jscott, but I'm a little confused on how to flash the bootloaders. Do I need to put my phone back into download mode to use Odin again? I tried that, and Odin doesn't seem to want to recognize my phone.
And sadly, I can't skip out on the bootloaders as I'm sure you guessed. Upon trying to go to CM9 I failed miserably due to rainbows. I actually used your guide to get back to well, stock UCLB3, and from there I've been trying to get the bootloaders on by putting my phone in download mode.
With no luck, sadly. Odin just doesn't want to show my phone as connected. Kinda stuck at the moment!
EDIT: I re-read the guide of yours I followed and saw that all I had to do was flash the thing a second time with the install bootloaders box checked. Unfortunately, I've done that, and I can clearly read the words "Uploading SBL...SBL upload failed!" on my screen.
Doesn't take much of a genius to figure out that the BL likely stands for bootloaders, so now I'm slightly freaking out. Heimdall One-click is currently trying to end the session. I'm of course going to let it go as long as I can hoping that it ends things nicely as I'm terrified to try turning anything off at this point. Hopefully I didn't just permanently destroy my phone =\
Andros: Oh thank you for saving me from the OC mishap. I suppose there's some good in me not having gotten that far yet due to problems!
EDIT 2: I can see the light at the end of the tunnel! I swapped my USB ports around a bit and kept trying with your Heimdall One-click stuff and finally got the bootloaders in! Once that went through the rest was easy as pie : ) Everything's going smooth, I'm currently installing JB Gapp stuff, then I'm going to follow the rest of my ROM guide and I don't forsee any issues. Thank you guys again, both of your guides and your responses were very helpful!
I want to thank YOU arguro. If everybody had the patience and intelligence to so thoroughly research what they wanted to do there would be so many less help I bricked my phone threads and a whole lot less irritated developers.
You went into the process with the right amount desire / fear. Glad you made it and welcome to jellybean!
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