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What is a better choice as a gaming phone and what are the big differences aside from the keyboard and camera?
Mytouch 4G slide it has a better processor and runs overall way more smooth
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Do you happen to know if you can map keyboard keys as actual buttons for an emulator? Ex.SNES
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Do you happen to know if you can map keyboard keys as actual buttons for an emulator? Ex.SNES
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Get the Slide, Its better all around and yes you can remap the keys once you s off and root. Go here http://revolutionary.io
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Excuse me for being a noob but what exactly is S-off? maybe a link will help and save you some time if you would like to help.
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Excuse me for being a noob but what exactly is S-off? maybe a link will help and save you some time if you would like to help.
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Ill explain. S off is a short for secruity off. Htc devices have a secruity radio in them to prevent modification. Once this is off the phone is open to rooted apps kernals and custom roms
You want the slide for sure it has a dual core processor. I game a lot and have not had any lag issues ever.
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Don't forget the part where an ipod or zune video cable goes right from the headphone jack to red/white/yellow (rca) connections...the most universal way of plugging into a TV.
TV out is seamless and works phenominally well - I play many more video games now with this device since I plug into televisions everywhere I go and have huge picture.
Game emulators work fantastically well, and once you plug into a TV your device becomes the controller (and console woohoo).
Given the raw power of the hardware on this phone, and the TV out capability, welcome to the future of what gaming is going to be.
Part of the intention behind the snapdragon processor was to create a way of giving people video games on par with console quality and a market in their hand around the clock. The most lucrative business model from the game industry standpoint is the one that doesn't have them storing, shipping and managing lots of physical inventory and only being limited to a handful of hours a day that they can sell it.
Much better to have no inventory or warehouses, and a product that sells around the clock. The fact that the console/controller is also the market just makes impulse buys and sales increase, while giving the end user exactly what they want.
People defend their phone against mine and try to argue tit-for-tat specs right up until I plug into a TV and start playing starfox or symphony of the night (yep, from a phone).
If you don't get this device, since you've mentioned gaming as one of the primary purposes, you'll probably regret it.
armo4444 said:
What is a better choice as a gaming phone and what are the big differences aside from the keyboard and camera?
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it's no doubt to choose slide.
better cpu and the smooth QWERTY
I'd go with the mt4gs because it has a better processor, screen, and other "updated" features from the mt4g. The gaming would be nicer because of the better processor, dual core, etc.
Blue6IX said:
Don't forget the part where an ipod or zune video cable goes right from the headphone jack to red/white/yellow (rca) connections...the most universal way of plugging into a TV.
TV out is seamless and works phenominally well - I play many more video games now with this device since I plug into televisions everywhere I go and have huge picture.
Game emulators work fantastically well, and once you plug into a TV your device becomes the controller (and console woohoo).
Given the raw power of the hardware on this phone, and the TV out capability, welcome to the future of what gaming is going to be.
Part of the intention behind the snapdragon processor was to create a way of giving people video games on par with console quality and a market in their hand around the clock. The most lucrative business model from the game industry standpoint is the one that doesn't have them storing, shipping and managing lots of physical inventory and only being limited to a handful of hours a day that they can sell it.
Much better to have no inventory or warehouses, and a product that sells around the clock. The fact that the console/controller is also the market just makes impulse buys and sales increase, while giving the end user exactly what they want.
People defend their phone against mine and try to argue tit-for-tat specs right up until I plug into a TV and start playing starfox or symphony of the night (yep, from a phone).
If you don't get this device, since you've mentioned gaming as one of the primary purposes, you'll probably regret it.
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How do you do this? Through the headphone jack?
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dung8604 said:
How do you do this? Through the headphone jack?
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Yep, you got it.
You won't find any official documentation on it (but if you do, please share!) - the TV-out capability is what finally sold me on the device. ( I wanted it anyway, but that was the clincher)
Couldn't be happier with any other piece of cellular technology then this device, and the TV thing really is just plug and play...i'll plug in to the TV in the middle of a game without lag and keep right on cruising.
I keep saying that this should have been the selling point for the phone, and yet...not a whisper about it from HTC.
yep, i've mapped the buttons into the snes emulator, using a keyboard is better than the screen for gameplay, but i wouldnt say it's easy to play games with it either way.
leoilios said:
yep, i've mapped the buttons into the snes emulator, using a keyboard is better than the screen for gameplay, but i wouldnt say it's easy to play games with it either way.
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I'm definitely thinking that the bluetooth controller is the final answer. I don't like the idea of passing around my phone as the controller to other people. It's fine for my use, but out and about other people want to play too...I don't like handing this device over to other people.
I keep having other things spring up in front of me that have to be handled first with this phone, but seeing what's up with the bluetooth controller issue is very close on my list. Sometime in the next week a person I work on android stuff with in my neighborhood is trying to bring his wii controllers over so we can sit down with our phones and tablets and make a day out of learning what we don't know.
Ultimately, i'd like to get a sixaxis controller working on the device - for all I know it works out of the box with the market app, but I wouldn't bet on it. I think I remember someone posting about it a few weeks ago - and looking into it briefly it seemed like a dead end without kernel source.
Now that we have it, a lot of postponed projects are being woken up in sequence, and having someone to sit down and bounce ideas off of with for a solid day or three is something i'm really looking forward to.
Because really, that's the answer. Walk up to the TV and plug into the audio/video, set the game up, and leave the phone by the TV and play from the couch with a bluetooth controller.
Just like in the old days, when you had to walk up to the system to change games and stuff.
Also, I refuse to play things like the original mortal kombat where i'm trained through and through to include excess pressure on the buttons. Since it's a much more delicate device then an old 8-bit controller...I know i'll break it.
Having a real controller would solve that problem and let me play some of the games on my emulator that are staring me in the face sitting here. All the games I grew up with...and no hardware to run it on. Then this phone comes along, and I can play my old console games on the TV again.
Love this website.
Gotta love how the makers of the phones and os's spend all this time tryin to lock people out from changing them and then there is this website where all these people know how to do almost anything to these new/old phone. I love you guys lol, this is by far the best website to be on to get info about your phone.
If it wasnt for all of you my tilt2 woulda been borin I meen more boring..
I have recently upgraded (lol) to a mytouch 4g slide and it is a very nice phone.
A whole new ballgame for me to figure out how to make it custom, should be fun
Don't worry you came the the right place. The sticky in general has information on everything you'll need to know or click my sig. Welcome to the mt4g slide
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One of Androids larger problems, and I know this is something Google say they have improved in ICS, it just isn't an entertaining OS to use day to day.. Don't get me wrong I love my Transformer but actually interacting with it has become a bit meh. Since installing Miui, CM or even a hacked port of Sense isn't on the cards does anyone have any suggestions on how to breath new life into the tablet?
Thanks.
Well when I.C.S arrives, you will be able to use custom Roms firstly in the form of CM9.
http://www.transformerforums.com/fo...t/10226-cyanogenmod-9-coming-transformer.html
This will pave the way for MIUI, and beyond.
The life of the Transformer is only just beginning.
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Entertaining! What do you want it to do? A little dance for you? Its an OS not a TV show!
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Give it a factory reset, delete your titanium backups and get to work!
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Write your own tablet operating system for it, and design the UI you want. See you in thirty years.
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Spidey01 said:
Write your own tablet operating system for it, and design the UI you want. See you in thirty years.
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.... OUCH..... lol
Spidey01 said:
Write your own tablet operating system for it, and design the UI you want. See you in thirty years.
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No need to be so harsh. I'm sure we all think this at certain moments
Get involved more in Android. Maybe take up java as a hobby and create your own apps, or make your own themes. You can also try setting up and designing different layouts (like Hubs). Every OS gets boring if you just use it on a basic level. Start customizing it and it will get a whole lot better. And like buzzboy said, once we get a ICS port (hopefully someone is working on this already) and CM9, we will have a lot more customization. Unless every hops on the Prime wagon, which I hope doesn't happen until I pick it up
I try to change my phone and tablet's layout almost every week just to always have a refreshed experience.
My apologies if the OP finds that harsh as well, didn't really mean it that way. But I've gotta admit, give or take the headaches it'd keep a TF from being dull for a long time lol.
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Paint "Don't Panic" on the bezel and start reading the entire wiki.
Damn...good thing you didn't get an iPad...but then again...the iPad does have jiggling icons.
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One of Androids larger problems, and I know this is something Google say they have improved in ICS, it just isn't an entertaining OS to use day to day.. Don't get me wrong I love my Transformer but actually interacting with it has become a bit meh. Since installing Miui, CM or even a hacked port of Sense isn't on the cards does anyone have any suggestions on how to breath new life into the tablet?
Thanks.
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Sell it and get an iPad.
some bored kid that doesnt appricate what it has taken to bring this
into the world.. try going back to 286 tech and see how bored you would be..
jezzz.. flash a rom one of the great roms that the developers have got for you..
then tweck it like it hasnt never been tweaked then come back and show us your startling results..
even better.. work on multi tasking for android then bring it to the masses..
this will save you from boredom ..
or going off topic.. you could try this way..
lol.. its a bit like the way i treat my women..
once i get bored.. trade them in..
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Uhm, well, I don't know what you expected. A Playstation/XBox? A desktop replacement that lasts a lot of hours?
An Android tablet is, at least to me, more of a time saver and productivity improver than a time filler. I use it to check news/mails/feeds/.. write some articles, create office elements and, in my spare time, I do play aswell some games. But thats the rare case.
So, if you don't have anything to do with yours, I'd recommend selling it and investing into something that fits you.
wow op is an idiot. i wonder if he sits there and yells at his tablet
"do something you boring tablet, dance , dance dance"
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I don't think we need to be that mean to the OP....yeash lol.
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Uhm, well, I don't know what you expected. A Playstation/XBox? A desktop replacement that lasts a lot of hours?
An Android tablet is, at least to me, more of a time saver and productivity improver than a time filler. I use it to check news/mails/feeds/.. write some articles, create office elements and, in my spare time, I do play aswell some games. But thats the rare case.
So, if you don't have anything to do with yours, I'd recommend selling it and investing into something that fits you.
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For my two cents: I find that Android tablets should be utilized and marketed for what netbooks were marketed for, hence the net; but in reality a netbook is just a budget laptop in a form factor that used to cost *a lot* more than a normal laptop. The difference is you're trading a PC optimized OS for a Mobile Phone optimized one.
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This is what happens when you buy a tablet as a toy. Plenty of people seem to get off on installing programs and customizing their computers and other tech gadgets --almost like how lots of people work endlessly on their cars but don't actually give a crap about driving them.
I prefer to drive...and to use my gadgets as tools.
dont think its the tablet thats dull, more the content on the tablet. look for some new games and apps to play with.
or go out!
Oh I didn't buy it as a toy its my companion device and a damn good one at that. All I meant was that in its current state the UI isn't as gratifying to use over time as say Sense UI Miui or dare I say the ill fated webOS products.
And ladies and gents is it really necessary to throw around insults because I criticised the UI on a product I own and quite like? I am not criticising you or your choice of purchase by saying the Transformer is less than perfect. Lets act like adults here shall we?
Putting that way..then i agree with the OP..
Different framing of the topic might have been in order..
As said in another thread..I am only missing multitasking in that windows or tabs..
An example if a perfect day with my Tranny..
6.45am wakeup check emails transfer the movies,shows and books for trip
12pm 1st plane..movie
Stopover..check emails..have a chat with family via Skype..
2.30pm 2nd plane.. movie..bit if a read of a Pdf..
5.30- hotpot dinner with staff.. a bit of a flick thru of customer case studies setup as frames.. wow factor
9pm.. back to hotel..plug in hdmi watch a bit Hawaii5o..
11pm finish..
A big day with me and my tranny travelling for work around China..
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Try Onlive
Try Onlive. Been keeping me busy lately. Love Warhammer. Nothing like running desktop games on my Transformer.
What to say to apple fans trying to manipulate a layman, into buying an apple, in laymen terms? Or what's the ultimate android to apple bash? Or what's the best reason to buy android vs apple? One of the main reasons I wanna know what other people would say, especially to their friends or family. I've never touched a Mac nor will I ever so I can't really say anything but tech specs, so that's my main reason to start this thread. Plus... I also wanna hear if other people are as sick as I am just hearing the freakin word, "Apple".
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What to say to apple fans trying to manipulate a layman, into buying an apple, in laymen terms? Or what's the ultimate android to apple bash? Or what's the best reason to buy android vs apple? One of the main reasons I wanna know what other people would say, especially to their friends or family. I've never touched a Mac nor will I ever so I can't really say anything but tech specs, so that's my main reason to start this thread. Plus... I also wanna hear if other people are as sick as I am just hearing the freakin word, "Apple".
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before i use Apple, i thought it is the best phone, but after i use apple iphone 4, i find it is good but with so many limitions, cannot download the useful apps is not good.till now, i can only download the apps from app store. while android is much better than iphone, my husband's galaxy s2 hd lte is good enough.
Why is there an apple sub forum in xda. Wont it be a head ache for the mods to get the spam out of it?
Ontopic. My brother has an apple and he can't stop bragging about it. Apple this apple that. I don't know what so big of a deal with it. Its also costs damn too much. I do accept its a bit fast and little stuff but that would be cause I have a wildfire.
Also it only varies based on its memory Rom (or whatever they call it) . No different styles no different sizes. But android ranges from big to small powerful to low powered.
Maybe I say this cause I only used android but I'm not gonna use iPhone any time in the future.
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Customisation is Android's Strong Point!
I would say try an iPhone and try an Android phone - the iPhone will let you do so much, but then it will give you a brick wall which you can't jump over. The Android phone, on the other hand, will give you a blank canvas which you can turn into a Picasso or a Rembrandt, depending on your tastes.
Android = customisation, at its best.
iPhone = standardisation and closed ecosystem (at its best).
It all boils down to preferences anyway. I'd stick with Android though. I just can't stand the fact that iPhone's UI is a glorified app drawer. BORING.
I purchased an iPhone 4 the first month it came out. I had never owned a smart phone before this. I thought it was fun to play around with but I eventually got really bored of it. After 3 months I really didn't understand the hype behind the phone. I gave it to my dad and went back to my 5 year old Sony Ericsson which was WAAAAY more customizable than the iPhone, even though it was very old. With the iPhone I felt like someone was cutting my steak for me and cleaning my mouth, but with the Sony Ericsson I could choose whatever type of Steak I wanted and make it myself, constantly trying new seasonings. I know that was a terrible metaphor, but whatever.
In January of last year I picked up an HTC Inspire 4G. The first month my grades dropped because of how much fun I was having. I rooted it, installed a custom ROM, playing GBA/SNES/N64 games, and did everything I could do on my PC on my phone. I even edited microsoft word documents before sending them to my teachers straight from my phone. It was a whole new world. I could literally do anything with my phone.
Over the summer I bought a Galaxy S2 i9100, and I still have it. Best. Phone. Ever. Created. I skype with my friends using the front facing camera, watch HD videos while exporting to my HD TV, and connect a mouse and keyboard and surf the web while on vacation. I even leave my laptop at home when I travel on short trips now. I just hook up the phone to the hotel's TV and browse the web.
So the reason I prefer Android is that you can do anything you can on an iPhone and a lot more. IOS is discovering an alien civilization deep within space while Android is finding an empty planet and colonizing it.
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My brother has an apple and he can't stop bragging about it. Apple this apple that. I don't know what so big of a deal with it. Its also costs damn too much. I do accept its a bit fast and little stuff but that would be cause I have a wildfire.
Also it only varies based on its memory Rom (or whatever they call it) . No different styles no different sizes. But android ranges from big to small powerful to low powered.
Maybe I say this cause I only used android but I'm not gonna use iPhone any time in the future.
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@ ComradeNF I like your last paragraph... Thanks for responses, keep it going;-)
@ arzku, I agree as well.
Kerosine said:
I would say try an iPhone and try an Android phone - the iPhone will let you do so much, but then it will give you a brick wall which you can't jump over. The Android phone, on the other hand, will give you a blank canvas which you can turn into a Picasso or a Rembrandt, depending on your tastes.
Android = customisation, at its best.
iPhone = standardisation and closed ecosystem (at its best).
It all boils down to preferences anyway. I'd stick with Android though. I just can't stand the fact that iPhone's UI is a glorified app drawer. BORING.
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Android Rocks
Hands down Android ....
Apple is just UI & the Brand they have managed to create over the years.
Android is the best that that could happen to Mobile devices...
From my "experience" (@Israel) most people with iphones are those who use their PCs just for facebook, they just dont want anything "complicated".
Android is more of a thinking man's platform (imo!)
Once a friend of mine bragged that the iphone is simple & small while android (galaxy nexus) is too complicated, messy and huge.
It made me chuckle cuz most people (including him) have huge cases on their iPhone's making it bigger and uglier than my HTC desire, which survived, and continues to kickass w/o a case for almost two years now.
nebsif said:
From my "experience" (@Israel) most people with iphones are those who use their PCs just for facebook, they just dont want anything "complicated".
Android is more of a thinking man's platform (imo!)
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A friend of mine recently just upgraded from the iPhone 3Gs to the iPhone 4s. When I found out, I was all, "uhh, I've shown you what Android can do." To which my friend responded, "Yeah, but all I really do on my phone is check Facebook & Twitter."
Just saying, if that's all I did on my smartphone, I wouldn't spend the extra money a month for a data plan. I would just have a regular flip phone.
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Just saying, if that's all I did on my smartphone, I wouldn't spend the extra money a month for a data plan. I would just have a regular flip phone.
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iAgree. But I think iPhone(along with all Apple products) makes some kind of ego for the owner. Other people think they are rich and elegant etc.
But as we all know, it's not cool to own an iPhone
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Why is there an apple sub forum in xda. Wont it be a head ache for the mods to get the spam out of it?
Ontopic. My brother has an apple and he can't stop bragging about it. Apple this apple that. I don't know what so big of a deal with it. Its also costs damn too much. I do accept its a bit fast and little stuff but that would be cause I have a wildfire.
Also it only varies based on its memory Rom (or whatever they call it) . No different styles no different sizes. But android ranges from big to small powerful to low powered.
Maybe I say this cause I only used android but I'm not gonna use iPhone any time in the future.
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Actually, iPhones don't cost more than any other Android super phones. People just think iPhones are expensive because they don't offer a lot of bang for your buck.
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Apple is a novelty item now a days. Just to show off that they have it.
In the early days, it was the thing to have because it had all the apps and all the things people would want but now that Android is growing and developing more, it's almost the same for normal users. Of course the android needs to be on even grounds with the apple phone to be considered. ie iPhone 4 to Sg2, Razr, nexus.
For Normal users, if they don't customize the rom, and use it is as is. I think Apple would be the most useful for them.
For "Advanced" users (I use advanced lightly), the Android can do a lot more than Apple in terms of customization and useage.
Personally I'd go with Android. I thought about getting an iPhone but in the end I chose the galaxy S.
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Actually, iPhones don't cost more than any other Android super phones. People just think iPhones are expensive because they don't offer a lot of bang for your buck.
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http://www.digitec.ch/ProdukteVergleichen1.aspx?artikel=225742,209918
uuh, oh rly?
i see a difference of whooping 300.- here
Shush...
Given the kind of feedback that's coming out I suggest we keep this thread under the radar, lest Apple decide to sue us for breaking one of their patents.
Considering the patents they have, I wouldn't be surprised they patented "the ability to have an opinion on a smartphone and its real value" by now! They typically use that patent to spread wrong ideas against Android phones (forceclosing issues, copying, etc) and in favour of their product (the "innovative" FaceTime for instance, new notification system, etc) to their sheep..er.. I mean, customers.
My Opinion
My own feeling is that the iphone is great for those who want an item that comes out of a box in a usable form that they can conform to.
The android is best for someone that wants to customize their phone to their likes, and for the tasks they will perform.
My wife would probably do great with an I-phone, She has an android, but she has never changed anything about it since the second day she had it.
I am always trying roms, kernals, and apps to make my phone perfect for me.
my gf recently got her first android.
after a day she asked me if she could change that stupid lockscreen from samsung to something.. more useful.
i showed her widgetlocker
now her lockscreen looks cooler than mine... xD
thats something what would've been impossible with an iphone..
Kerosine said:
I would say try an iPhone and try an Android phone - the iPhone will let you do so much, but then it will give you a brick wall which you can't jump over. The Android phone, on the other hand, will give you a blank canvas which you can turn into a Picasso or a Rembrandt, depending on your tastes.
Android = customisation, at its best.
iPhone = standardisation and closed ecosystem (at its best).
It all boils down to preferences anyway. I'd stick with Android though. I just can't stand the fact that iPhone's UI is a glorified app drawer. BORING.
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The biggest thing that annoys me with apples OS is the lack of a dedicated back button and the functionality that goes along with it. Its very annoying to open a link in an email and then have to manually go back to the email app. Very disorienting. Every other mobile os has some way of accomplishing this.
Anyone thinking about trying to face off against them with the skyrocket? or are our phones just not good enough.
Isn't that promotion over?!
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huh? Ur joking right? There isnt single windows phone the market right now that can compete with the skyrocket, in ANY category, except maybe camera, but 8mp @ 1080 p is good enough for me
Lumina is kinda baller in a hardware standpoint... The obvious lack of Android is what kills me
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Lumina is kinda baller in a hardware standpoint... The obvious lack of Android is what kills me
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not really, its also a qualcomm, but single core, only the camera is better (cmos sensor).
The way wp7 is integrated I doubt you will win. I gave my daughter my old Samsung Focus and it's smooth and fast. I like both OS's for sure but I'm sure the windows booth will have the phone setup for easy access via the tiles. If you do the challenge, let us know how it goes
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Pretty sure this is over, but most android phones can beat it. You just have to be ready, practice and set up your phone beforehand.
Its funny, windows mobile started it all, but when the iPhone and android iOS hit. Windows got knocked out and basically have to start out green. If only they would of stuck with windows mobile 6.5....
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yea it was over, but the terms were saying it had to be like out of the box stuff....so meaning we couldnt flash like a custom rom or something, ive only read people with Stock Galaxy Nexus could beat it....its a race from turned off to pulling up like weather...which takes the nokia phone like 15 seconds to boot up
There were several different types of tests and all were geared towards WP7's strengths.
It was an advertising campaign, so I would expect them to do well against most devices.
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huh? Ur joking right? There isnt single windows phone the market right now that can compete with the skyrocket, in ANY category, except maybe camera, but 8mp @ 1080 p is good enough for me
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It was not a test of hardware, it was a test of software and integration.
Something MS did very well with regards to WP7.
And sorry, WP7 does do social integration better than Android.
I own devices running iOS, WP7 and Android and WP7 has the social part nailed down.
Sure, you can find third party solutions for Android, but that's not the point of these tests.
I was not impressed with the Lumia or its Windows operating system. I demo'd one and picked up the Skyrocket instead (I was going to preorder a Lumia a week or so ago because of the $99). The handset was heavy, the touchscreen was not as responsive and it didn't help that it died in my hands. I thought the ATT rep was really good. She pulled a Skyrocket out (her own personal phone) and said I would not be happy with Windows mobile if I was used to Android..(coming from an Atrix that made my mind up and I am happy with my decision)
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyclay/2012/03/28/is-the-microsoft-windows-phone-challenge-a-scam/
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyclay/2012/03/28/is-the-microsoft-windows-phone-challenge-a-scam/
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I wouldn't say the challenge itself was a scam more that some store employees/managers chose to be douche bags and not follow the written rules.
Even the creator of the challenge, Ben Rudolph said some stores were not playing fair.
I think with Nokia WP is finally getting some traction, especially at the price point they're selling it at. It was a smart move for Nokia to go WP rather then Android, it's easier for them to stand out. With Android they would just drown, among the sea of devices.
As far as the challenge goes it's not a scam but clever marketing. It reminds me of the old Pepsi Challenge campaign from years ago, funny how everyone shown in the ads always chose Pepsi
I've played with WP7, and it is a pretty slick OS. That said, these challenges are stacked in WP7's favor: social integration/efficiency.
It's not like they're gonna ask you to go to the market and download Instagram or other apps unavailable on WP7. Or pull up turn by turn navigation from google maps, or change your wallpaper, etc. etc.
I'm not sure which one to get android is my favorite but every note 10.1 i try is laggy and stutters. I never owned a iPad but i tried it at best buy and it felt so smooth and fast and the screen was awesome except the screen shape. Does any one own both to tell me your opinion about speed and every day use.
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I'm not sure which one to get android is my favorite but every note 10.1 i try is laggy and stutters. I never owned a iPad but i tried it at best buy and it felt so smooth and fast and the screen was awesome except the screen shape. Does any one own both to tell me your opinion about speed and every day use.
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I have to admit that the note 10.1 ICS is laggy but, the jelly bean update is coming and it's pretty fast, no more lag or stutter. Sorry but this tablet with jelly bean version will be way better than the ipad 4. The pen and multitasking on the tablet is amazing. Im sick of ipad. Just got rid of my ipad 3 and got new note 10.1 and i'm loving it. We are still waiting for Jelly bean update to come.
My Note 10.1 doesn't lag at all on ICS. Though the JC update should have some performance improvements. Some people have already gotten the JB update, but my device (N8010) hasn't yet.
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My Note 10.1 doesn't lag at all on ICS. Though the JC update should have some performance improvements. Some people have already gotten the JB update, but my device (N8010) hasn't yet.
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Yeh, I have to admit I didnt notice any lag on ICS either. Though I came from an ipad1, so maybe thats why!
I'm on a JB rom at the moment (I have an 8010, using an 8000 rom) and it still seems smooth.
Have to say, the reason I got the note was because of the wacom digitiser. If you aren't going to make good use out of it, then the choice would be between the iPad4 or the Nexus10.
If you want to make use of the pressure sensitivity, then the iPad4 is going to be of no use to you.
So depending on what you want to use the tablet for... I'd say your choice should really be between the Nexus or the Note.
drawing
If you enjoy using drawing of any kind I can't reccomend this pad enough. There are a few apps that give professional level art programs. My favorite being tvpainter. They have a free beta that lasts till February. And the fact that wacom helped make the screen was more than enough reason for me to make my decision.
I'm still not sure , the only time I'm going to use the pen is for notes and editing pics. I'm mostly going to browse the web and watch and upload YouTube videos. My brother has the nexus 10 and it not for me the screen is nice but that's about it. I don't like apple but i like how they have lots of apps optimized for tablets when android app are just scaled up phone apps
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If you need to take handwritten notes then you have to get the Note. Otherwise the iPad is a better option.
Again, it's how you use it. Apple is a locked down system. You can only use it to Apples stringent rules... Sure you can jailbreak but then you have to wait for someone to JB the next update or get left behind...
Note 10.1, and Android in general, allows you the option of rooting fairly easily. You can control what you want and how you use it, plug those pesky security risks, and don't kid yourself Apple has them too, and change the ui to what you want. It allows you to put what you need where and make the device yours... Apple is a sterile hospital room in comparison..
I don't know why any tabs you used were stuttery, my experience with the note, ICS and JB, has been fantastic. You need to remember that the demo models in stores are subject to people playing around with them and maxing out the ram usage. Also I know that the stores also load their own app(s) onto the demo models which may cause issues.
ICS was great, JB is phenomenol. I have a 32gb 3G version. I use a 64gb sd card, that's a combined total of 96gb.. Transferring Apps, movies, music and pictures onto the note doesn't require specialised software that has a new update every 2days.
S-pen works wonders, not an artist but I find the s-pen easier to use than the onscreen keyboard. Use handwriting for everything.
And finally, the biggest plus for me was the fact I can make and receive phone calls.... Not using skype or any other 3rd party app but dialling out using my carrier. Not reliant on wifi. I use the bluetooth stylus as its easier to have on me than a headset and I hate sharing my private conversation with the world.....
I have never liked Apple as it is a closed system and there may be an advantage or 2 for that sort of app developement but I can't complain about the apps for Android. You can generally find the same or an equivalent app on Android that you use on IOS.
Essentially the decision is yours, If you are leaning towards Apple, go with it as that's your preference, I don't care as I don't have to live with your decision and you need to go with what you want...
I tried out a note 10.1 in PC world before I bought it. I must have gone in to the store a dozen times, each time the device was extremely laggy and stuttery. I assumed it was because the store devices have demo mode running all the time, plus there were so many apps running that weren't closed down. I got so frustrated in store with the lagyness. But I bought one and it couldn't be more different.....it is really smooth. so it must have been all the crap the store version had running.
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If you're an 'appy' type of guy and want everything to 'just work', pick the iPad 4. But if you're the 'tinker' guy and will find the S-pen useful, of course the Note 10.1 will suit you.
Generally though, iOS is smoother than Android, even with Jelly Bean. This comes from a previous iPad owner, now a Note 10.1 owner. I still kind of miss the iPad. If only the apps on Android tablets are as great as on iOS, then I will not miss it anyway.
Just my 2 cents!
Whats the difference between all Ipad's?.... not a damn thing! Its all the same thing and they call it revolutionary :banghead: yet everyone freaks on them
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Whats the difference between all Ipad's?.... not a damn thing! Its all the same thing and they call it revolutionary :banghead: yet everyone freaks on them
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I just like the tablet optimized apps in the app store. I just ordered the note 10.1. I just wish there was more development and easier ways to mod.
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Whats the difference between all Ipad's?.... not a damn thing! Its all the same thing and they call it revolutionary :banghead: yet everyone freaks on them
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What are the differences between Android tablets (for obvious reasons, we're talking about hardware and tablets of the same family (eg. Tab > Tab 2, TF101 > TF201 > TF300 > TF700))?
Faster/more powerful CPU? More powerful GPU? More RAM? Better camera? Better quality screen? The newer versions of iPads always have some sort of upgrade, hence why people actually upgrade their device. I'm not trying to start a flame-war, but it's clear to me that you're completely ignorant to all things Apple. So my suggestion for you is to stop talking about things that you know nothing about. If you're going to ignore everything about something, you might as well forget that it exists.
Its not only the hardware that's the same with Apple.... IOS promises a host of new features but all it really delivers is a slight improvement, usually a feature that's been available on Android for a few revisions... And this is called "Innovation" whereas Android is then accused of stealing a feature that has been available for a long time....
I don't mind the constant law suits so much as it does push new features and designs out by the companies who probably would rest on their laurels like Apple... However, Apple seems to push the fact that they came up with the idea, they then patent stuff that should have been laughed out of the patent office - really, a rectangular body with rounded corners? I had a Phillips Fizz long before the Iphone ever surfaced and that describes it exactly....
I'm sorry but I thought Innovation and stagnation had 2 different meanings but according to the Apple dictionary they are the same word...
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Its not only the hardware that's the same with Apple.... IOS promises a host of new features but all it really delivers is a slight improvement, usually a feature that's been available on Android for a few revisions... And this is called "Innovation" whereas Android is then accused of stealing a feature that has been available for a long time....
I don't mind the constant law suits so much as it does push new features and designs out by the companies who probably would rest on their laurels like Apple... However, Apple seems to push the fact that they came up with the idea, they then patent stuff that should have been laughed out of the patent office - really, a rectangular body with rounded corners? I had a Phillips Fizz long before the Iphone ever surfaced and that describes it exactly....
I'm sorry but I thought Innovation and stagnation had 2 different meanings but according to the Apple dictionary they are the same word...
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I'm not arguing that everything Apple does is innovative or revolutionary. I just find it stupid for people, like jojo1419, to say that all iPads are the same. If people actually believe that iPad 1 = iPad 4, then wow, that's ignorance at its finest, folks.
And yes, Android does have features that iOS is missing, but one thing I LOVED about my iPad was that apps were actually made for the iPad. I love my Note 10.1, but it's irritating to download an app, expect a nice tablet-friendly experience, and seeing an over-sized mobile UI. Maybe I'm just spoiled by the huge amount of tablet-friendly apps in Apple's App Store and should lower my expectations of apps from the Google Play Store.
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I'm not arguing that everything Apple does is innovative or revolutionary. I just find it stupid for people, like jojo1419, to say that all iPads are the same. If people actually believe that iPad 1 = iPad 4, then wow, that's ignorance at its finest, folks.
And yes, Android does have features that iOS is missing, but one thing I LOVED about my iPad was that apps were actually made for the iPad. I love my Note 10.1, but it's irritating to download an app, expect a nice tablet-friendly experience, and seeing an over-sized mobile UI. Maybe I'm just spoiled by the huge amount of tablet-friendly apps in Apple's App Store and should lower my expectations of apps from the Google Play Store.
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So do you still prefer the note over iPad! The only reason I still want the iPad is the tablet apps.
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So do you still prefer the note over iPad! The only reason I still want the iPad is the tablet apps.
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I guess you would have to look at the apps you use and think about whether or not you'd care..?
For me, the things I do on my tablet include (but is not limited to because I may forget things):
-web browsing
-redditing
-note taking
-drawing (I suck at this one, but I like doing it )
-reading (pdfs, ebooks, etc.)
-doing homework sets (physics problems in lecture notes)
-watching stuff (like NetFlix because my desktop uses linux)
The only thing I wish Android apps had was an easy way to connect your tablet to mathematica on your computer or something. I don't want to pay Wolfram any more than I have to so I don't want to buy time on his f*cking servers by using WolframAlpha..
Anyway, my point was that, there is no point here where I would consider Apple to have better "tablet" apps than Android. Mostly because the one thing that MAY be better would be "note apps" except those note apps are usually limited to text or stupid **** that don't apply to the way I want to take notes. But yeah, sure, I guess there are better optimized Angry Birds in the Apple store..?
I agree, alot of people here are total fanboys. Apple may not be the most innovative company, but there innovations are numerous compared to Samsung. For starters maybe the note 10.1 would not even exist if it wasn't for the innovations apple made in the early 90's with the development of the Apple Newton.
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I agree wholeheartedly that Apple got the ball rolling and keep it rolling with their idiotic lawsuits however, Apple as a whole has reached a state of stagnation...
They are slow to add extra features into their hardware and software, are limited in a lot of ways with their software and lock everything down. They are all about control, you do it Apples way or no way. Itunes is a mongrel thing to have to use, and no support for video files except mp4.... Waste of time converting EVERYTHING in my library...
The fact they now, for the iphone 5, decided to change the connector to something that doesn't support the old accessories is a bit of a slap in the face for their loyal customers, at least they could have included an adaptor in the box...
If it had of been to the mini usb like most companies have decided should be the standard for mobile phones, fair enough but it is another proprietry connection...
I know samsung use a different USB 30 pin connector for their tabs but all the phones, tablets weren't included in the agreement, have got the standard mini usb adaptor...
Lets be totally clear here, Apple cornered the market, updated a few things then sat on their laurels until their martket was being threatened by a competitor. They then did a kneejerk reaction and a quick catchup that was still behind the competitor but followed that up with a marketing blitz that wa phenominol to make people believe that they are "Innovative" and that everyone else wasn't. When that seemed to be failing them they decided to slam the competition with frivolous lawsuits for patents that were obviously a massive waste of time...
The last win they had did them more harm than good as they pointed out that the competition was essentially selling the same thing for a lot cheaper and their bottom line will continue to drop now this has been divulged.
I personally know a hard core Apple fanboy who has crossed to the darkside, his girlfriend now has an SGS3 and he went the way of Windows 8 phone... Apple is shooting themselves in the foot by lagging behind in the software and hardware that the consumers want.
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I agree wholeheartedly that Apple got the ball rolling and keep it rolling with their idiotic lawsuits however, Apple as a whole has reached a state of stagnation...
They are slow to add extra features into their hardware and software, are limited in a lot of ways with their software and lock everything down. They are all about control, you do it Apples way or no way. Itunes is a mongrel thing to have to use, and no support for video files except mp4.... Waste of time converting EVERYTHING in my library...
The fact they now, for the iphone 5, decided to change the connector to something that doesn't support the old accessories is a bit of a slap in the face for their loyal customers, at least they could have included an adaptor in the box...
If it had of been to the mini usb like most companies have decided should be the standard for mobile phones, fair enough but it is another proprietry connection...
I know samsung use a different USB 30 pin connector for their tabs but all the phones, tablets weren't included in the agreement, have got the standard mini usb adaptor...
Lets be totally clear here, Apple cornered the market, updated a few things then sat on their laurels until their martket was being threatened by a competitor. They then did a kneejerk reaction and a quick catchup that was still behind the competitor but followed that up with a marketing blitz that wa phenominol to make people believe that they are "Innovative" and that everyone else wasn't. When that seemed to be failing them they decided to slam the competition with frivolous lawsuits for patents that were obviously a massive waste of time...
The last win they had did them more harm than good as they pointed out that the competition was essentially selling the same thing for a lot cheaper and their bottom line will continue to drop now this has been divulged.
I personally know a hard core Apple fanboy who has crossed to the darkside, his girlfriend now has an SGS3 and he went the way of Windows 8 phone... Apple is shooting themselves in the foot by lagging behind in the software and hardware that the consumers want.
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Gonna go ahead and play devil's advocate:
Connector: They had the same connector for a DECADE. Micro USB is fiddly and aren't any docks for it because there's no standard so you need *gasp* a proprietary dock for you exact handset! With Apple you could have bought a dock for your iPod 5 years ago and it would still work with your iPhone 4 with the adapter Apple includes with the phone! Can you say that about anything non-Apple? It was time to change the connector and it's nice, and can be used across it's whole ecosystem which is dope. I have a Galaxy Nexus and a Galaxy Note 10.1, I can't purchase a dock for either because Samsung refused to bring them to Canada. I'd have to pay $180 for the Note 10.1 dock from South Korea (including shipping / tariffs / customs) and $90 for the gnex landscape dock. HILARIOUS.
Lawsuit: they won, period. There was written proof that Samsung copied the iPhone. Like everyone else copied the retina display. Like everyone else copied the whole iPad-esque tablet. You think you would have a Nexus 10 without the original iPad? You think you'd have a good smartphone? All-in One PCs? Ultrabooks? These product types always seem to become popular soon after Apple has come out with it. Note that I did not say they were the first to make that type of product, only that other companies seem to get the balls to make sexy stuff right after Apple popularizes it.