Hello folks,
I am having a couple of really strange and frustrating issues with my Nexus S on WIND Mobile (GTA). I've read a few posts and while some of the issues seemed similar, they did not really capture the exact issues and did not have any real fixes. I am hoping that I am not alone with these issues and that there may be a fix at some point. Considering that Samsung does not honor the SNS warranty in Canada, I am SOL if these issues are just with this particular device.
My Nexus One does not have these issues. (Don't get me wrong, my Nexus One still has issues with WIND's network at times, but I have not been able to reproduce these particular issues on the Nexus One).
Anyways, on to the issues:
1) Connecting to 3G after a reboot is sporadic.
Issue: After reboot, the phone makes several attempts to activate the 3G data connection. The 3G icon appears for a second or two, the uplink arrow lights up and then the 3G icon disappears. The phone will wait for a 30 seconds up to 5 minutes and then repeats the attempt to establish the 3G data connection. More often than not, it will connect. However, at times, it will continue this cycle for 30 minutes; sometimes it won't connect at all.
Steps to reproduce: Turn phone off/on by holding power button or by pulling battery and reinserting.
Steps taken to attempt to fix:
- factory reset (Helps for the first boot - phone connects almost right away. Subsequent boots have the above mentioned issue.)
- wipe cache (no effect)
- triple-checked APN settings
- set WCDMA-Only via Testing menu and update SMSC (I saw this thread here but it didn't fix my issue.)
- setting network selection to Auto
- setting network selection to 302490
- turning Airplane mode on/off after reboot does not help establish 3G connection (edit 2011-01-25 @ 12:39 EST)
2) 3G Data connection hangs with uplink
Issue: At random times, usually after extended periods of inactivity I will unlock the phone and find that the 3G icon in green (as if it is connected to Google's servers correctly) and the uplink arrow lit up in green as if some sort of data activity is occuring. However, opening up the browser (or any other app that uses data for that matter) will result in a time-out error as if the data connection is not working. The uplink arrow will stay lit up anywhere between 1 to 10 minutes. After this time, the 3G icon will turn gray and data will once again start working.
Steps to reproduce: Sporadic; extended periods of inactivity and potentially walking through an area with bad coverage will trigger this issue.
Steps taken to attempt to fix:
- turning Airplane mode on/off (Turning Airplane mode on causes the data connection to hang entirely forcing a reboot. Airplane mode will not actually turn on and will not be possible to turn off. Have to reboot to restart connection.)
- placing phone call to test network (Sometimes call will connect, other times call will hang at "Connecting". At that point it is impossible to disconnect the call; pressing end call results in "Disconnecting" forever. Only a reboot will reset data and phone app.)
- turning 2G only on (see Airplane mode)
I am hoping that somebody can coroborate these issues and/or point me towards a fix. (Are there any custom ROMs that have shown better 3G performance?)
Thanks!
I have experienced the second issue state-side but I also have not been able to explain it. Instead of rebooting for the first issue have you tried toggling airplane mode?
kenvan19 said:
I have experienced the second issue state-side but I also have not been able to explain it. Instead of rebooting for the first issue have you tried toggling airplane mode?
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Edited first post - unfortunately, Airplane mode does not help.
The only problem i've found so far is...
but probably you refer to no signal after it gets disconnected, and airplane mode doesn't help
if that's the case, i have the same problem
the only way to fix it, is to reboot the phone
my Moto XT720 doesn't have that problem
no 3G problem like you described on the SNS
specially these steps
- set WCDMA-Only
- setting network selection to 302490
- turning Airplane mode on/off after reboot does not help establish 3G connection
also no problem with this
vladkor said:
Sporadic; extended periods of inactivity and potentially walking through an area with bad coverage will trigger this issue.
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AllGamer said:
but probably you refer to no signal after it gets disconnected, and airplane mode doesn't help
if that's the case, i have the same problem
the only way to fix it, is to reboot the phone
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The strange thing is that after the reboot, and the initial 3G connection is established and held - then the subsequent drops in connection aren't problematic.
Meaning:
I reboot the phone ->
- wait for it to establish a stable 3G connection ->
- walk into an elevator where there is no reception at all ->
- walk out of the elevator back into an area with reception ->
- the phone reconnects to 3G without a problem.
It seems that only the initial connection is the issue.
I am able to reproduce this 100% of the time.
vladkor said:
The strange thing is that after the reboot, and the initial 3G connection is established and held - then the subsequent drops in connection aren't problematic.
Meaning:
I reboot the phone ->
- wait for it to establish a stable 3G connection ->
- walk into an elevator where there is no reception at all ->
- walk out of the elevator back into an area with reception ->
- the phone reconnects to 3G without a problem.
It seems that only the initial connection is the issue.
I am able to reproduce this 100% of the time.
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I'm not sure about how you got the phone (meaning where you bought it) but it sounds like there might be an issue with your 3G radio.
vladkor said:
I reboot the phone ->
- wait for it to establish a stable 3G connection ->
- walk into an elevator where there is no reception at all ->
- walk out of the elevator back into an area with reception ->
- the phone reconnects to 3G without a problem.
It seems that only the initial connection is the issue.
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in my case, it's only when i lose the voice connection, then i can't get anything back, until i reboot the phone
that is only if i completely lose the signal
but if it's brief, then it will automatically reconnect just fine, and maintain 3G
it might very well be a BUG with the SNS
as my XT720 doesn't experience this problem
and Airplane mode On/Off will make it reconnect right away, without having to reboot the phone, in the worse case scenarios
but the SNS handles it poorly if you ask me, and Airplane mode seems like it has no effect at all on making the SNS to regain a signal
kenvan19 said:
I'm not sure about how you got the phone (meaning where you bought it) but it sounds like there might be an issue with your 3G radio.
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I bought it from a dude on Craigslist.
I called Samsung - apparently the S/N is under warranty, but I would have to ship the phone from and to a US domestic address in order to get warranty service. Samsung's warranty unfortunately, does not cross borders.
Here's to hoping that there is a firmware fix for this issue. Maybe someone comes up with a solution in a ROM.
I will keep my fingers crossed or just stick to my Nexus One.
vladkor said:
I bought it from a dude on Craigslist.
I called Samsung - apparently the S/N is under warranty, but I would have to ship the phone from and to a US domestic address in order to get warranty service. Samsung's warranty unfortunately, does not cross borders.
Here's to hoping that there is a firmware fix for this issue. Maybe someone comes up with a solution in a ROM.
I will keep my fingers crossed or just stick to my Nexus One.
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The shipping to/from an American address was what I was getting at. It sucks but it might be your only option if it is indeed a faulty 3G radio.
i'm pretty sure it's a software driver BUG, and not a hardware issue
it is not like, it is not working, it is working, it just kinda sucks at regaining the signal after it is lost
as if, it doesn't even try to get the signal back
if the hardware was not running, then it would not even get signal at all
AllGamer said:
in my case, it's only when i lose the voice connection, then i can't get anything back, until i reboot the phone
that is only if i completely lose the signal
but if it's brief, then it will automatically reconnect just fine, and maintain 3G
it might very well be a BUG with the SNS
as my XT720 doesn't experience this problem
and Airplane mode On/Off will make it reconnect right away, without having to reboot the phone, in the worse case scenarios
but the SNS handles it poorly if you ask me, and Airplane mode seems like it has no effect at all on making the SNS to regain a signal
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Yeah a bug in the radio for sure, if you are in a area with no signal for an extended period of time (5-10 minutes) the radio basically dies, and the only way for you to get a signal again is to reboot the phone.'
I've worked around this problem by using tasker and setup a task to cycle airplane mode before the radio dies ( after the radio dies airplane mode doesn't work anymore like you said)
So tasker basically waits for no service, if no service cycle airplane mode, wait 5 minutes, if no service repeat. And it'll keep doing it until service is required.
johoja said:
Yeah a bug in the radio for sure, if you are in a area with no signal for an extended period of time (5-10 minutes) the radio basically dies, and the only way for you to get a signal again is to reboot the phone.'
I've worked around this problem by using tasker and setup a task to cycle airplane mode before the radio dies ( after the radio dies airplane mode doesn't work anymore like you said)
So tasker basically waits for no service, if no service cycle airplane mode, wait 5 minutes, if no service repeat. And it'll keep doing it until service is required.
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I'm going to have to try this. I live in a low service area and it had never occurred to me why after rebooting I would get texts.
johoja said:
I've worked around this problem by using tasker and setup a task to cycle airplane mode before the radio dies ( after the radio dies airplane mode doesn't work anymore like you said)
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YES! THAT'S IT !!!!
I noticed exactly the same thing!!!
if i know i'll be heading into an area known to have no connection, i usually turn ON airplane mode
then when i get back out, and turn it back ON, it works right away.
i wasn't sure before, but now that i know this, it sounds like a viable work around
there's actually an app that can do that automatically... searching appbrain to find it
i used it in the past with SGS, which had a similar bug, but then i uninstalled it, after the SGS radio bug was fixed
here i found it !!
NoBars Battery Saver
http://www.appbrain.com/app/nobars-battery-saver/com.tomdryer.nobars
AllGamer said:
i used it in the past with SGS, which had a similar bug, but then i uninstalled it, after the SGS radio bug was fixed
here i found it !!
NoBars Battery Saver
http://www.appbrain.com/app/nobars-battery-saver/com.tomdryer.nobars
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Unfortunately, this won't solve my particular issue.
When the 3G refuses to connect on boot, I usually have full reception.
However, I am going to give this app a go due to the potential battery savings.
AllGamer said:
YES! THAT'S IT !!!!
I noticed exactly the same thing!!!
if i know i'll be heading into an area known to have no connection, i usually turn ON airplane mode
then when i get back out, and turn it back ON, it works right away.
i wasn't sure before, but now that i know this, it sounds like a viable work around
there's actually an app that can do that automatically... searching appbrain to find it
i used it in the past with SGS, which had a similar bug, but then i uninstalled it, after the SGS radio bug was fixed
here i found it !!
NoBars Battery Saver
http://www.appbrain.com/app/nobars-battery-saver/com.tomdryer.nobars
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Couldn't get tasker to work but I got NoBars working. Seems to be a great idea since Cell Standby is a HUGE drain on my batt. Thank you AllGamer!
i set it to give up in 30 sec
and to retry every 10 min
so if it still has no signal in 30 sec
it waits another 10 min to try
this is a pretty good compromise to keep the RADIO ON in case of incoming calls, yet keeping the battery and dead radio bug when there is no signal for too long... example getting into the Subway system
AllGamer said:
i set it to give up in 30 sec
and to retry every 10 min
so if it still has no signal in 30 sec
it waits another 10 min to try
this is a pretty good compromise to keep the RADIO ON in case of incoming calls, yet keeping the battery and dead radio bug when there is no signal for too long... example getting into the Subway system
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Exactly how I set it up, personally I'd like to have it check for radio more often than that but oh well.
Hey man I also have the nexus s and I have similar issues as you mentioned. And I have heard about a lot of the fixes you saw as well. I knew this is part to blame to Wind ****ty service which I hope they fix soon and also on nexus s and Google with all the bugs they have with the 2.3 or higher versions. Just hang I'm there ...... your not alone..
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App
AllGamer said:
YES! THAT'S IT !!!!
I noticed exactly the same thing!!!
if i know i'll be heading into an area known to have no connection, i usually turn ON airplane mode
then when i get back out, and turn it back ON, it works right away.
i wasn't sure before, but now that i know this, it sounds like a viable work around
there's actually an app that can do that automatically... searching appbrain to find it
i used it in the past with SGS, which had a similar bug, but then i uninstalled it, after the SGS radio bug was fixed
here i found it !!
NoBars Battery Saver
http://www.appbrain.com/app/nobars-battery-saver/com.tomdryer.nobars
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Cool app, free is always good. But I'm used to my tasker I love that app.
Pretty annoying bug though. Hopefully they fix it soon I think it's a baseband bug so they need to push out a fix. Pretty bad testing on their part though I have to say.
As for the 3G Data specfic issue I haven't noticed any problems in that sense with Wind, working good here in Ottawa.
alpha300 said:
Hey man I also have the nexus s and I have similar issues as you mentioned. And I have heard about a lot of the fixes you saw as well. I knew this is part to blame to Wind ****ty service which I hope they fix soon and also on nexus s and Google with all the bugs they have with the 2.3 or higher versions. Just hang I'm there ...... your not alone..
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App
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johoja said:
As for the 3G Data specfic issue I haven't noticed any problems in that sense with Wind, working good here in Ottawa.
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Yesterday, I unlocked the bootloader, rooted, and flashed Ginger-S v0.6. It seems that the first issue is better now; I haven't noticed it yet.
Maybe it was a faulty OTA install? Might explain why factory reset would help for the first boot; maybe a setting was getting corrupted after a while.
Haven't had the second issue happen yet, but I do have NoBars running so it might just be that it is doing a really good job.
I will keep an eye on it and let you know if it keeps working well.
When wifi and wifi-calling are enabled, it disconnects from the tmo network.. Great.. no problemo. I don't want it connected to the tmo network at the same time.
But.. when I lose the wifi.. i.e. service is interrupted, I leave the area, etc., then wifi-calling is stuck "ON" and I cannot return to the tmo network because the app is trying to find the wi-fi connection. This causes all voice/data to be dead.
I have tried killing the wifi-calling app via ATK, it won't shut down. I tried to FC it, no go. I tried to reboot the phone.. no go. I tried to kill it via Watchdog.. no go.
So basically, if I forget to shut off the app b4 I leave my wifi area, I'm screwed and dead in the water. Or, if the wifi connection is lost (i.e. service interruption), I'm screwed.
The only way wifi-calling will display the on/off button is when it has a wifi connection.. I know, I know.. I must force myself to remember to shut the stupid app off before leaving the local network.. but I forget at times.
I have only found 1 work around, and I'm hoping someone else can chime in on this. I'd like to see if there is an easier way around this.. It can be fixed via freezing the app. Then the tmo network kicks in. As soon as the app is unfrozen, it goes back to searching out wifi and disabling all voice/data.. until I get a wifi connection.
Thoughts?
can someone test this to see if they get the same results?
Mine switches as it should when I leave a wifi area.
GideonX said:
Mine switches as it should when I leave a wifi area.
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Seriously? You have wifi calling and wifi enabled. You shut off wifi and it automatically switches off wifi calling?
that's messed up. If I do that, I'm w/o service. Guess I'll reinstall the app..
GideonX said:
Mine switches as it should when I leave a wifi area.
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Thanks!!! I have discussed this on the forums a bunch of times in misc. conversations and no one has said "Hey, that's not the case for mine." I thought it was a glitch with the app.
R&R'd the app.. good to go. Thanks so much.. It's been like this since I took it out of the box.
When i connect to my wifi i get good speeds for certain time.... Then after a few seconds i get very bad speeds... And then my speeds increases again and so on....
Anyone facing same issue?
Any fixes?
I had this problem too after updating but it seems to have fixed itself. Might help clearing cache from recovery or even factory resetting the phone. Also do you have Magisk or other mods?
I had this issue where if I rebooted I'd get quick speeds for a few seconds (just under 200Mbps) then it would drop to less than 5Mbps from then on. I ended up having to roll back to Android 8 (after wiping cache, resetting network settings, etc.) which has fixed it.
So I am also getting this but I think I know what it is.
At work I have to connect to a wifi network, then log in on a website.
Before the update as soon as I connected to the wifi I'd have no internet access until I signed in.
Now with 9 it continues to use the mobile data even after logging in. I actually have to turn off mobile data for it to switch to wifi. If I don't then I get the issue you all are having. When connected to wifi with mobile data off the speeds are consistent.
I have this exact issue. Sometimes I get my full wifi speed (100 Mbit) and then it drops to 0.5 and keeps on going up and down.
I've been having this same issue on 9.0.2, only on the 5ghz network though. Happens at my house, but not at work.
After the recent update my phone will show no internet connection after traveling outside a wifi area. It's dropping data. If I enable airplane mode and then disable airplane mode it will then go online. Anyone else experience this issue?
Also lately while making calls, when I have the speaker enabled, it will randomly turn off repeatedly during a phone call. Any fixes?
Having none of those issues. It would help to know what type of device you have and which carrier you're on so folks with similar setup can share their experiences with you.
dzigns said:
After the recent update my phone will show no internet connection after traveling outside a wifi area. It's dropping data. If I enable airplane mode and then disable airplane mode it will then go online. Anyone else experience this issue?
Also lately while making calls, when I have the speaker enabled, it will randomly turn off repeatedly during a phone call. Any fixes?
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Check to make sure switch to moble date is turned on in settings-connections-wifi-advanced
no issues at mine, so make factory reset and fresh apps install (not recovery)
Hi,
I have noticed a strange behaviour using Wifi Calling. When I am away from home, and returning, it takes the phone about 15-20 mins for the wifi calling icon to show up and to be available. If I use airplane mode on/off it works instantly. I have seen this a few times on IOS as well, but seems more frequent on Android. So far tested on Samsung S22U and Sony Xperia 1 IV.
Also, today, while I was in a call, using VoWifi, the call dropped and when I looked immediately on the phone, vowifi icon was gone and it came back in a matter of 10 seconds.
Has anyone faced these issues and was able to narrow down the cause of it? My Wifi network does not have a firewall in place nor am I doing any sort of filtering. Changing between DNS servers makes no difference.
Turn off automatic WiFi network login on your phone and check again if it helped.
Hi, I do not have such option available. You mean wifi auto connect when in range?
Yes, because the phone can switch when the signal from the first router is weakening. (1)
Also, by setting up a manual connection, you can be sure that you are connecting to the router you want to connect to, not just any one. (2)
ze7zez said:
Yes, because the phone can switch when the signal from the first router is weakening. (1)
Also, by setting up a manual connection, you can be sure that you are connecting to the router you want to connect to, not just any one. (2)
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So you're saying turn those 2 settings off? I just recently ran into this issue with my Wi-Fi conking out intermittently and I'm experiencing 20% battery loss over night. I'm thinking its bad hardware. I just turned off these settings. I'll report back if it helps.