Hopefully when the JB update hits besides making custom roms, devs will start developing custom kernels. I wonder how much we can push/tweak the infinity.
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I know the phone has barely been out a week but the kernel and rom have all been sourced. Coming from an N1 it seemed that when a new official update came out, people were almost instantly coming out with rooted roms and such.
Of course they had kitchens and stuff ready to go but just figured we'd see some custom stock roms at least.
maybe I'm just aching to flash something.
Hi,
I'm relatively new to the whole Android business, coming from the Blackstone running Windows Mobile 6.1, where I did some ROM cooking. So probably I don't have that much of an overview yet.
After looking around in the Android development section for this device, I realized that most (all?) ROMs are based upon the HTC stock ROMs.
However I was wondering whether there are ROMs (or projects) with the goal of bringing the stock Android sources to our devices. I'm not that much of a fan of all these modifications the OEMs are including and would like to have as much of a vanilla Android as possible. As seen with the vulnerability of htclogger, this is a justified request as all added (unneeded) stuff is just another weak point.
I'm pretty sure that the vanilla sources won't be enough to get our devices running and there are a bunch of drivers, which must be added to get (full) functionality.
The ultimate goal would be to get some sort of scripts, which would automatically grab the latest Android sources, add the necessary stuff, which is needed to get full support for our devices, and build a ROM, which then could be the base for custom ROMs using the available tools/kitchens.
So, basically, before starting something, which already exists (but I couldn't find), I would like to ask you if you know of something that suits my taste in any sense? Or am I the only one interested in this way of thinking? Is there anyone who would like to participate in this endeavor when there shouldn't be something similar already?
Thanks in advance for any helpful reference in the right direction.
Best regards,
johnpatcher
There are a lot of roms with no-sense options and you have miui and cm7
xyqtt said:
There are a lot of roms with no-sense options and you have miui and cm7
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Yeah, but all ROMs I've seen so far are based upon the stock ROMs and removed some of the included HTC stuff. There even seem to be some scripts, which would do just that after flashing such a ROM. I would like to go the bottom-up kind of approach.
As great as MIUI and CM7 are, both of them don't support the Sensation officially yet. Furthermore they try to be an alternative firmware/ROM and add a whole bunch of functionality for themselves.
Without looking into their building process, I could imagine that they are using the Android vanilla sources as a base, which would be the kind of thing I want, although I would have to investigate that further. Does anyone know something about this?
CM7 does officially support the Sensation, albeit in Alpha form.
What you want is someone to compile a ROM from source (AOSP) specifically for the Sensation but it would seem no one has taken up the challenge yet. Surprising really, there were 2-3 on the Desire
I am a jailbroken iPhone convert. I am loving this phone so far and have heeded the warnings to not mess with the phone too much. My question is, when is it safe to use the roms that are available? Is there that big of a difference in performance? I jailbroke my iPhone to get features Apple wouldn't allow our have. what do I gain with custom roms? Thanks for all that has been done so far and look forward to what its to come.
I don't know of there is a time period to use them but most custom roms freshen up your desktop icons as well most of them improve battery life and add the ability to overclock.
You can gain quite a few features with Custom Roms. Such as overclocking, custom ui's, much better performance (snappier). I highly recommend flashing a custom ROM. Currently CM9 and CM7 are a work in progress and should be released sooner than later, (CM7 is currently in it's testing stage). Also to do all of this you have to root your device. A guide can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1327741&highlight=how+to+root Keep in mind many features can be gained once rooted, but as you probably know the warranty is voided.
Thanks for the help so far. The only question still remaining for me is; at what point are these roms considered stable enough for someone new to start using. I have read the warnings and really don't want to have to reinstall everything over and over again because of instability issues. thanks
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Thanks for the help so far. The only question still remaining for me is; at what point are these roms considered stable enough for someone new to start using. I have read the warnings and really don't want to have to reinstall everything over and over again because of instability issues. thanks
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It really all depends on what you are after.
I will say that even the stock ROM on the Atrix 2 is not that stable, and there are a TON of bugs in it.
All the ROMs that are here are in a beta format and are not even at a 1.0 revision yet. If you are not technical at all, and don't really like playing with your device a lot, and flashing ROMs, to try and get a feature that the stock ROM is missing, then I totally advise against flashing anything. These "ROMS are completely safe and stable enough", but both lfaber06 and are I always trying to "improve" on them, no matter what revision that the ROM is at, as well as requests for new features. That really is why it may seem that people are flashing all the time, not really because of instability.
Since he and I are really the only two devs in here right now, there is not going to be a lot of choice in ROMs and since this phone is still fairly new, everything is still "new" and in beta/alpha. Since you are coming from the iphone, and flashing ROMs is not really something that you do, I say you wait until you find something you really want that is not available in the stock ROM, and has been put into one the ROMs available here, then try flashing that. Until then just hang tight for a while. There are plenty of hacks that can be done to the stock ROM, to fix things, and make that better at this time. Also take some time to learn a little about android and flashing and how it all works, not intimately, or on a very technical level, but that might save your "you know what", if you have an issue during a flash or while running an unfamiliar ROM.
Thank you VERY much. That was the answer I was looking for. I am technical savy, just haven't done much with android so far. I am one that likes to tinker and get the most out of any of my electronics.
i have got a samsung omnia7 and was thinking about using the sammy rainbow custom rom, what are the pro's and cons doing this?
atm i have interop unlocked it but as i am still under warranty was curious of the effects.
advice would be grateful
It varies heavily ROM to ROM. However, there are a few common things.
Advantages:
More device control. With the policy system disabled, you can modify almost anything.
More homebrew apps, and more powerful ones (things like bazaar).
Native homebrew apps and ported WinMo apps.
Install XAPs directly (such as from IE), instead of using a PC.
If you find a bug, you can directly talk to the devs about fixing it (or possibly fix it yourself).
You may get updates before your carrier would provide them normally.
Disadvantages:
Higher risk of bugs since the ROMs get a lot less testing than official ones.
Updates may come later because you have to wait for a custom packaging of the update.
Not all custom ROMs are updatable; you might need to replace it with a new version which means you'll lose all your data.
Turning off the policy system increases your risk of malware if you arent' careful what you install.
Custom ROMs may have malware built in (not saying any of them do, but it's a risk).
Currently, I'd suggest waiting a little while to see where the Samsung ROM scene goes, what bugs are found and how quickly they're fixed, what features are available and how useful they are. However, it's pretty much always possible to go back to a stock ROM (unless you somehow really badly mess up your phone) so if you want to experiment or be an early adopter, go ahead. Otherwise, I think it'll be pretty clear what ROMs are good and where the custom ROM scene is going (support- and feature-wise) within a month or so.
so i would be safer to wait and see what the dev of the roms is going to do in the case of bugs.
thanks
That's my take. Note that I'm a dev working very hard on hacks that works with stock ROMs though - somebody who spends their time developing custom ROMs may well give completley different advice. There are certainly lots of advantages to going with custom ROMs, even at this relatively early point (it helps that a lot of the experience from HTC custom WP7 ROMs carries over to Samsung ROMs as well).
it seems as though the custom roms for omnia 7 are coming on leaps and bounds, what with MIRO's ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1499102
there seems to be very little on the way of bugs with his atm so i think i will give that one a shot. i know i am new at this but if you don't ask then you never find out things right
thanks for your advice and input....much appreciated
i would buy this phone but i am waiting for some roms, but it s very strange the device is not so much new and it s sold at a nice price but seems community is not growing..
maybe this phone will never have a huge custom rom room i dont know.
what is ur opinion? why so few interest by community=???
Please check this thread.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/poco-f2-pro/help/crowfunding-mickaelmendes50-poco-f2-pro-t4165675
It's gonna happen. Probably sooner than some think. We already have a stable custom kernel and I'm running it now on eu.stable. After having an LG device in the past, I've grown to be patient with development. We are guaranteed to get better custom roms the SamShits.