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This question is primarily for the beastly developers that are on the Charge right now. I am interested in a MIUI rom for the Charge, think there is a chance of getting one made? I don't know if this is the right place BUT I personally love MIUI from my HTC G2 and want to get it on here!
That'd be interesting, but it'll take a lot longer. I don't think Chinese Devs are into LTE right now since they don't have it. The Tbolt's version still has RIL in progress. That'll be the biggest concern. Honestly, I think it's going to be a year before we get a stable version of an AOSP rom, and even longer for MIUI
yeah I agree BUT it would be amazing to have!
possible...sure anything is possible
but it wont be today, tomorrow, next week, next month...after that who knows
Ofcourse I know it wont be any time soon. I would be willing to pay someone to develop a rom like that for the charge, anyone know a developer that is skilled enough to make something like that out of it?
htcdesirezgeorge said:
Ofcourse I know it wont be any time soon. I would be willing to pay someone to develop a rom like that for the charge, anyone know a developer that is skilled enough to make something like that out of it?
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are there? sure...but do they want to bang their head into a wall repeatedly or not is the question
If/when we ever get an AOSP ROM done (OMGB/OMFGB/CM) then we should be able to get MIUI and any other AOSP ROM onto the Charge as well. The question will be will people that spent time getting one of the initial AOSP based ROMs onto the Charge want to spend another month or so porting another ROM to the phone.
I for one would be willing to compensate someone for the porting. I'd put a $100 donation out there to someone for making the ROM and then im SURE other people would be more than willing to donate too. I know how difficult porting it, I've researched it and, frankly, I don't have the skill to tackle it lol.
I am a jailbroken iPhone convert. I am loving this phone so far and have heeded the warnings to not mess with the phone too much. My question is, when is it safe to use the roms that are available? Is there that big of a difference in performance? I jailbroke my iPhone to get features Apple wouldn't allow our have. what do I gain with custom roms? Thanks for all that has been done so far and look forward to what its to come.
I don't know of there is a time period to use them but most custom roms freshen up your desktop icons as well most of them improve battery life and add the ability to overclock.
You can gain quite a few features with Custom Roms. Such as overclocking, custom ui's, much better performance (snappier). I highly recommend flashing a custom ROM. Currently CM9 and CM7 are a work in progress and should be released sooner than later, (CM7 is currently in it's testing stage). Also to do all of this you have to root your device. A guide can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1327741&highlight=how+to+root Keep in mind many features can be gained once rooted, but as you probably know the warranty is voided.
Thanks for the help so far. The only question still remaining for me is; at what point are these roms considered stable enough for someone new to start using. I have read the warnings and really don't want to have to reinstall everything over and over again because of instability issues. thanks
ed20910 said:
Thanks for the help so far. The only question still remaining for me is; at what point are these roms considered stable enough for someone new to start using. I have read the warnings and really don't want to have to reinstall everything over and over again because of instability issues. thanks
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It really all depends on what you are after.
I will say that even the stock ROM on the Atrix 2 is not that stable, and there are a TON of bugs in it.
All the ROMs that are here are in a beta format and are not even at a 1.0 revision yet. If you are not technical at all, and don't really like playing with your device a lot, and flashing ROMs, to try and get a feature that the stock ROM is missing, then I totally advise against flashing anything. These "ROMS are completely safe and stable enough", but both lfaber06 and are I always trying to "improve" on them, no matter what revision that the ROM is at, as well as requests for new features. That really is why it may seem that people are flashing all the time, not really because of instability.
Since he and I are really the only two devs in here right now, there is not going to be a lot of choice in ROMs and since this phone is still fairly new, everything is still "new" and in beta/alpha. Since you are coming from the iphone, and flashing ROMs is not really something that you do, I say you wait until you find something you really want that is not available in the stock ROM, and has been put into one the ROMs available here, then try flashing that. Until then just hang tight for a while. There are plenty of hacks that can be done to the stock ROM, to fix things, and make that better at this time. Also take some time to learn a little about android and flashing and how it all works, not intimately, or on a very technical level, but that might save your "you know what", if you have an issue during a flash or while running an unfamiliar ROM.
Thank you VERY much. That was the answer I was looking for. I am technical savy, just haven't done much with android so far. I am one that likes to tinker and get the most out of any of my electronics.
Ok, so im moving from the htc sensation XE to the HTC one.
During my time with the sensation, i pretty much put on every rom/kernal/patch etc and the in the end, im posting this from a stock rom.
Why?
Well, i found that not one custom Rom worked 100%. The CM ROMs especially, with poor camera, poor scrolling and poor telephone.
ARHD became unbearable, with FC's and Permission bugs, the Sense 4 ROMs were slow and on and on.
Coming back to stock, after using ROMs which (apparently ) have been super optimised, I don't notice much difference in performance tbh. Battery life is similar, speed is similar etc.
YMMV on this one, but whatever.
In fact, the stock Rom just works
So, fast forward to two more iterations f the smart phone, and I believe the immense power now available should mean that the "optimization" ROMs, CM etc are becoming pointless. There is ample power to run the stock Rom no matter how bloated it is.
Some exceptions would be a slow roll out of updates from your carrier though.
Anyway, after flashing so much, and reverting back to stock, I'm not going to be in a rush to put a custom Rom on the One when it comes.
Even rooting it, I may hold off for a while. I'm just not sure these days what the point is.
Why knacker up the warranty?
Pah!
Different people have different uses/needs. All custom ROMs pretty much worked on my HD2 (although it's an exception since it originally had WinMo) and all of them work smoothly on the N4. Different devices also have different bugs, so you can't base the entire decision on your experience with only one device. As for why you'd want to flash one if you're OK with performance, the answer is that some of them have tonnes of features and UI enhancements. Take PA over stock 4.2.2 for example, or an AOSP based ROM over TouchWiz.
I have been thinking the same for all the reasons mentioned. I would like Titanium and Nandroids and some status bar themes. But, otherwise, for me, custom roms may not offer much. And, they do seem to have their own quirks. The stock roms and better processors now days can stand on their own for most folks. Having flashed hundreds of roms, there has been many occasions were I did something and said "Oh S--T" I am bricked. Luckily I have always been able to recoup. I am looking at the One and S4 and may root after a bit, but may not flash a custom rom. My One S had no issues running with the bloatware. But, who knows after so much flashing it may be hard to stop.
Superpiper1972 said:
Ok, so im moving from the htc sensation XE to the HTC one.
During my time with the sensation, i pretty much put on every rom/kernal/patch etc and the in the end, im posting this from a stock rom.
Why?
Well, i found that not one custom Rom worked 100%. The CM ROMs especially, with poor camera, poor scrolling and poor telephone.
ARHD became unbearable, with FC's and Permission bugs, the Sense 4 ROMs were slow and on and on.
Coming back to stock, after using ROMs which (apparently ) have been super optimised, I don't notice much difference in performance tbh. Battery life is similar, speed is similar etc.
YMMV on this one, but whatever.
In fact, the stock Rom just works
So, fast forward to two more iterations f the smart phone, and I believe the immense power now available should mean that the "optimization" ROMs, CM etc are becoming pointless. There is ample power to run the stock Rom no matter how bloated it is.
Some exceptions would be a slow roll out of updates from your carrier though.
Anyway, after flashing so much, and reverting back to stock, I'm not going to be in a rush to put a custom Rom on the One when it comes.
Even rooting it, I may hold off for a while. I'm just not sure these days what the point is.
Why knacker up the warranty?
Pah!
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This is where alot of people get confused. The point of making a custom rom was never for everyday people to be flashing them, They were for developers to try new things and see what they could make happen. Does this break things? Yeah from time to time but that is all part of learning.
That's all true also DK. It does depend what we want from phone and if we want the risks of flashing. I have done it long enough and maybe just getting old and tired. It takes a lot of time to keep up with the roms and not have to rely on others for all your info. Although XDA was/is a dev forum, it has also benefited in member growth with all the people now interested in flashing.
I think it is more likely with the new phones that some will not see the need to flash a custom rom as much as they wanted/needed to say 3-4 years ago.
Either way it is still a personal choice and more than likely I will still flash whether I need to or not--
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That's all true also DK. It does depend what we want from phone and if we want the risks of flashing. I have done it long enough and maybe just getting old and tired. It takes a lot of time to keep up with the roms and not have to rely on others for all your info. Although XDA was/is a dev forum, it has also benefited in member growth with all the people now interested in flashing.
I think it is more likely with the new phones that some will not see the need to flash a custom rom as much as they wanted/needed to say 3-4 years ago.
Either way it is still a personal choice and more than likely I will still flash whether I need to or not--
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Oh trust me If it wasnt for the crapware and bloat OEMs added to their devices and the absolute UGLY look to them I may not feel a NEED to flash a custom rom but with the listed things for me it is still very needed. Mainly the UGLY. I can deal with a bit of lag but it better be good looking while it lags lol
agreed--
nuff said.
Basically that's up to developers not users .
All i can see is not much to develop for this model .
jje
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nuff said.
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Perfect the way it is. Can't fix that.
The point of developing is to perfect the rom from the users viewpoint.
The Note is a pretty good user experience out of the box. There weren't too many complaints about ICS until JB came along and only Germany N8000 users got it...
For most things stock rom is good enough, root it and even better. Custom roms at this point are just "because we can", though there are a few mods and tweaks that improve things, just depends whether you can live with the trade-offs...
I agree. Mine already had JB when I bought it. All I did was unlock and root it. I have tried a few other ROMS, but keep going back to stock (and I'm a guy who puts custom ROMS on everything)!!!
a couple of rom makers told me and i think even xda said that the device its self isnt very popular...it really sucks man i love my note... i wish their was more development
All you have to do then is start developing
Or start a major ad campaign promoting the Note 10.1.... Sell enough and you might find devs happier to make roms.
Or if, you really want to entice the devs, buy them a note 10.1 on the stipulation that they share any roms they create...
it's lacking kernel options by alot
also, just one cm rom with semi broken pie
would love to see paranoid androind and their new work with halo
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it's lacking kernel options by alot
also, just one cm rom with semi broken pie
would love to see paranoid androind and their new work with halo
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There is no point developing for a tablet that with just root and the slight overclock runs as good as you could want on current technology. The stock rom and minor tweaks are so satisfactory there just is no demand.
Once more i just don't see what development can bring to this tablet .
But some people just want to flash roms good bad or useless its a well known syndrome
usually cured by a woman .
jje
Not necessarily... I know a lot of girls who love flashing their phones /tablet roms too, most of which I have the pride to say I introduced to the world of XDA....
(I had to word that carefully or it might've looked REALLY bad...)
paranoid android? halo?
since ive bought my nex4, ive been using it..
its not rom but the features are plain as ****..
except for s-**** but i hate that
would love to see a proper PA rom with working pie on this tab..
honestly, thats the only rom i want..
CM doesn't have pie mode.. jus the pie control.. so regardless of extended desktop, the pie works which is annoying
REVOLT has other issues, laggy and new.. feels like a port..
So, I tried all the roms and got 2 of them 2 actually boot up but only without a sd card in the phone no matter how i formatted it.
I noticed some roms are shared by poeple that mentioned they do not even have the pocophone. So how can they possibly test the rom?
Ill make this really easy for you,, stay on the factory rom. Remove the useless apps but becareful because removing some of them will make you go into bootloop and some apps require chrome.
IMO these roms are being made by people that want donations. They dont even care if the rom works..
I noticed people asking questions, usually they do get responses, it might be a day or a week later but often the responses are suggesting that questioneer is stupid and just needs to do more seraching for the answers. Many answers tell you to download a pp or a file but dont provide the link. You have to go out and look for it.
Heres teh big problem with this forum in general. We do not have all week searching through a forum full of fake info, missing info and trolling. The biggest thread to unlock and root thsi phone, has a large array of twrp files to choose from, none of which actually work correctly! Why is that? Yo really think people have time to test these files? Why not post the files that WORK and give detailed instructions fromt he start? If there is an error, update the thread by deleting the apps and files that dont work! However I dont see this going on in this forum. I see a thread where they have well over a thousand people asking questions to just get the phone to root and unlocked! Why? You mean to tell me it takes 0ver 1000 pages of replies to get people to properly root there phone? Something is not right here..
So, my guide is to get you away from the roms, for now, Cause at this time, none of them are stable and the ones that kind of work, do not have the cool capabiliies of the factory app, like call recording and IR camera.
I do have only one rom that works which i can 100% recommend.
It is Oreo 8.1 Miui 10 factory rom.
Install it as a rom in TWRp . Here is the Rom
Now, as for rooting and unlicked and all that jazz... here is MY detailed instructions with CORRECT FILES to get your Pocophone F1 Unlocked, rooted and with TWRP! And you can also check the root afterward!
Maybe Ill get banned... but that is the way of things here.. If you look, you will see a bunch of dudes from India make these roms, which makes you wonder what the reasons for posting these roms are since they dont even have the device!
Bye
even the greatest companies or app developers have beta testers..
how do you think will you be able to enjoy unofficial roms on unsupported devices with TESTING and SHARING your experience ?
I think you're new to internet forums in general, android customisation, and how the xda community works.
First rule in internet forums is to search and read everything you can.
If you read the threads, you will find that maybe some people already talked about some issues. Like the IR Face Unlock. It's already discussed that Xiaomi hasn't released the drivers so it won't work with custom ROM.
Some ROMS are labelled "ALPHA" or "BETA" to let us know what state they're in. The developers also listed the bugs of the ROM. ROM developers also don't have time to test the ROM thoroughly, that's why they interact with us. We can test the ROM and let them know what problems are in the ROM. There is no ROM with zero bugs. Even the stable xiaomi roms have lots of bugs.
The developers are people with real job, they are not full time developers. They do it for free, if the user appreciate them or like their works, they can donate some money. I often see people demanding things from the devs like the devs work for them. You can download and use it for free, nobody forced you to use the ROM so if you use it please appreciate it.
Maybe you're new here and frustrated about unlocking, rooting, flashing, etc. There are a lot to learn about android customisation, and some phone are more difficult than the other. If you don't like it, then don't do it. But I assure you, it's worth your time to learn it and flash a good rom.
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even the greatest companies or app developers have beta testers..
how do you think will you be able to enjoy unofficial roms on unsupported devices with TESTING and SHARING your experience ?
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I dont enjoy unofficial roms because they do not work!
And to be honest, I dont feel like "testing" anything.
Heres a great idea... Make a rom, test it yourself then offer it for sale for like 25$ and if i can prove it dont work i get a refund..
Until a see a rom that is known to work and has already been thoroughly tested and doesnt have 2000 people posting about it asking how to fix thhis ir that, then ill be sticking with the factory rom..
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I dont enjoy unofficial roms because they do not work!
And to be honest, I dont feel like "testing" anything.
Heres a great idea... Make a rom, test it yourself then offer it for sale for like 25$ and if i can prove it dont work i get a refund..
Until a see a rom that is known to work and has already been thoroughly tested and doesnt have 2000 people posting about it asking how to fix thhis ir that, then ill be sticking with the factory rom..
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That's fine, those other 2000 people can help to make an awesome ROM, you can cool your heels and wait....
I've seen an awful lot of bad OEM roms that need updates to fix too... Chances are the custom rom will be fixed a hell of a lot faster...
Wow...
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That's fine, those other 2000 people can help to make an awesome ROM, you can cool your heels and wait....
I've seen an awful lot of bad OEM roms that need updates to fix too... Chances are the custom rom will be fixed a hell of a lot faster...
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I dont like to take chances..
The phone costed me 300$
You really think people want to take a 300$ chance at ruining their phone?
No!
SO far, the only rom that actually works is the factory rom. Other roms, work not so much, have bad glitches, wont let you use a sd card, etc etc..
Would you like to buy a new truck at full price and "test" it to make it work?
No? didnt think so..
Ill stick with the factory rom till somebody can come up with a rom that actually works..Ill stick with the factory rom because it has features I really need to be honest. Its not a perfect rom. But, it does work! When I say its not perfect I mean, the factory rom does have defects, such as notification issues but be honest this is the ONLY phone that will record phone conversations with out root! The factory ROM is the only ROM that allows call recording. Plus it's dependable it doesnt boot loop like 98% of the ROMs out there.
The ONLY rom that is promosing is the Pixel Experience rom... Except it wont allow the sd card work...\\
Fix the SD card problem in the Pixel Experience rom and add call recorder and lll use it 24/7.. till then the factory ROM must stay.