Rooting and Updates - Galaxy Note 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

My Note 10.1 is rooted - Quite simply in fact - Will I be able to receive OTA updates if rooted (then I will just lose root upon accepting) or do I need to have the stock recovery to get these?

u can. u just need to flash back to stock recovery, download "ota root keeper" to restore ur root after ota update

omnia1994 said:
u can. u just need to flash back to stock recovery, download "ota root keeper" to restore ur root after ota update
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so I DO need to flash the stock? wondering if I should even leave this thing rooted...Pretty good on it's own

terrapin69 said:
so I DO need to flash the stock? wondering if I should even leave this thing rooted...Pretty good on it's own
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depends own urself. i root it to restore my apps from my motorola xoom, and to use apps that requires rooting like titanium backup, adfree etc

yeah - me too actually - dont really mess with the CPU or anything - Thanks

omnia1994 said:
u can. u just need to flash back to stock recovery, download "ota root keeper" to restore ur root after ota update
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finally, got ppl answer to this question.
:highfive: thanks mate...
but, actually, what thing has make this note 10.1 differs from N7000 ? why can't do the update with the custom CWM installed ?
Does this apply only for OTA update ? or if we download the firmware and want to flash via ODIN, we do still need to flash back to stock recovery first before do the firmware update via ODIN ?
Thanks,
Sent from the corner of this rounded earth.

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Updating to Official 2.3.6 while rooted

Naturally, I am rooted on 2.3.5, if I do this update, will I lose root access and/or will I not be able to update do to my skyrocket being rooted?
pillzburydoughboy said:
Naturally, I am rooted on 2.3.5, if I do this update, will I lose root access and/or will I not be able to update do to my skyrocket being rooted?
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Update will remove root and will fail if you have CWM installed, it requires stock recovery to apply (this is of course if you go the official update route).
Return to stock recovery
So how do I return to stock recovery from cwm? I'm not so concerned about this update, but I'd like to use stock ics when it comes out. ( keeping root, of course)
Jobuca said:
So how do I return to stock recovery from cwm? I'm not so concerned about this update, but I'd like to use stock ics when it comes out. ( keeping root, of course)
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Flash stock recovery with ODIN, make sure there is not a kernel in the .tar or the flash counter will trip.
Another question and sorry if I sound like a newb! Will I easily be able to reroot my phone?
pillzburydoughboy said:
Another question and sorry if I sound like a newb! Will I easily be able to reroot my phone?
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1 click unroot, 1 click root
pillzburydoughboy said:
Another question and sorry if I sound like a newb! Will I easily be able to reroot my phone?
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If you get familiar with ODIN (and heed the same warning I posted above) all you end up having to do is flash CWM recovery and then install superuser via an update zip file. You may have to flash it "2 - 3 times to get it to complete without error" I am not sure why it does that but I followed the instructions around here somewhere.
Many thanks to you guys! I had the same question.
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How to remove CWM Recovery?

I want to remove CWM Recovery because I actually want to install an OTA update *gasp* and Clockworkmod seems to prevent it from installing correctly. My phone is NOT rooted and is running stock kernel and ROM. I will be willing to root if necessary though.
mhrazor1 said:
I want to remove CWM Recovery because I actually want to install an OTA update *gasp* and Clockworkmod seems to prevent it from installing correctly. My phone is NOT rooted and is running stock kernel and ROM. I will be willing to root if necessary though.
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Odin a stock ROM and that will do it. Then get your OTA update.
sfobrien said:
Odin a stock ROM and that will do it. Then get your OTA update.
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Get EZ recovery from the market. That will allow you to install the stock recovery.
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dmpaul1 said:
Get EZ recovery from the market. That will allow you to install the stock recovery.
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While this did work and install stock recovery, the OTA update still fails. So I just gave up on it, re-rooted, installed CWM again, and installed a custom kernel. Thank you anyway.
mhrazor1 said:
While this did work and install stock recovery, the OTA update still fails. So I just gave up on it, re-rooted, installed CWM again, and installed a custom kernel. Thank you anyway.
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any reason you ignored sfobriens post? fyi he is correct...odin back to stock then ota. not sure why you want to ota anyway. If you want the latest flash invisibleks vralhd stock rom.
droidstyle said:
any reason you ignored sfobriens post? fyi he is correct...odin back to stock then ota. not sure why you want to ota anyway. If you want the latest flash invisibleks vralhd stock rom.
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I didn't ignore it, I'm just not very comfortable with using Odin since that's how I killed my Galaxy Tab
Why would u want an OTA update? an OTA update could just as easily make your phone's bootloader locked again, etc.
cobija said:
Why would u want an OTA update? an OTA update could just as easily make your phone's bootloader locked again, etc.
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bootloader can be unlocked again even with OTA.

[Q] Shield and rooting questions

1: If i root my shield, can it stil do OTA updates and only need a reroot after each update?
2: if 1 doesnt work, is there then a way to unroot it completly to do the OTA update?
andsa said:
1: If i root my shield, can it stil do OTA updates and only need a reroot after each update?
2: if 1 doesnt work, is there then a way to unroot it completly to do the OTA update?
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You might have to uninstall custom recovery and put stock back on but cwm has been able to handle stock updates in the past just haven't tried it on the shield. You'll have to reroot. Supersu has an option for a full unroot as well.
Hit thanks if I helped you out. Doing a little bit of reading goes a long way. Sent via tapatalk.
hexitnow said:
You might have to uninstall custom recovery and put stock back on but cwm has been able to handle stock updates in the past just haven't tried it on the shield. You'll have to reroot. Supersu has an option for a full unroot as well.
Hit thanks if I helped you out. Doing a little bit of reading goes a long way. Sent via tapatalk.
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1: No idea what cwm means
2: The unroot with supersu didnt work at all on my galaxy s4. so im unsure if it will work on the shield.
andsa said:
1: No idea what cwm means
2: The unroot with supersu didnt work at all on my galaxy s4. so im unsure if it will work on the shield.
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Something must have happened because the unroot option worked fine on my Verizon s4. Cwm is clockwork mod recovery. Unroot option does work on shield or at least it has on both of mine.
Hit thanks if I helped you out. Doing a little bit of reading goes a long way. Sent via tapatalk.
andsa said:
1: If i root my shield, can it stil do OTA updates and only need a reroot after each update?
2: if 1 doesnt work, is there then a way to unroot it completly to do the OTA update?
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1.- In my experience CWM does not install my otas so i was getting always errors, but you dont need CWM on your device because there aren't roms and they aren't flasheable files on android development so in my opinion you don't needed (I dont needed)
2.- I had to return to 100% out of the box to get again all the otas installed just because of the error i told you on number 1 so i suggest you not to use a custom recovery if you want to install some mods or some addons to android just use xposed framework
psycho1200 said:
1.- In my experience CWM does not install my otas so i was getting always errors, but you dont need CWM on your device because there aren't roms and they aren't flasheable files on android development so in my opinion you don't needed (I dont needed)
2.- I had to return to 100% out of the box to get again all the otas installed just because of the error i told you on number 1 so i suggest you not to use a custom recovery if you want to install some mods or some addons to android just use xposed framework
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I have a feeling there will be a need for cwm soon
Hit thanks if I helped you out. Doing a little bit of reading goes a long way. Sent via tapatalk.
Iv used triangle away. U install it after root and then u can ota update again. Working on samsung galaxy anyhow
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What's CWM?
andsa said:
What's CWM?
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Clockwork mod recovery
Hit thanks if I helped you out. Doing a little bit of reading goes a long way. Sent via tapatalk.

[Q][Solved] NE5 Update with Philz Recovery and SuperSU? (Not Towelroot)

So I saw here that the NE5 update was out, and I want to install it. However, obviously I can't do an OTA update due to it being a "modified device." I am running Philz Recovery and root from flashing SuperSU.zip.
Is there any way to update manually, without losing root (permanently), recovery, or wiping all my data? I know that I could always restore the stock recovery and firmware via ODIN, but that would get rid of everything, including my data.
(Side question: What exactly does the NE5 update add? I know it's another build of 4.4.2 but what features?)
Thanks.
SOLVED: Just went the long route with wiping and installing the updated NE5 firmware via ODIN. Flashed Philz recovery and SuperSU.
Admins/Mods feel free to delete.
triplepwnu said:
So I saw here that the NE5 update was out, and I want to install it. However, obviously I can't do an OTA update due to it being a "modified device." I am running Philz Recovery and root from flashing SuperSU.zip.
Is there any way to update manually, without losing root (permanently), recovery, or wiping all my data? I know that I could always restore the stock recovery and firmware via ODIN, but that would get rid of everything, including my data.
(Side question: What exactly does the NE5 update add? I know it's another build of 4.4.2 but what features?)
Thanks.
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The NE5 file is already deodexed and rooted. Therefore, you don't lose root. You get Wi-Fi calling feature with this updated. And, I believe it's an update to the modem.
Robbie Doo said:
The NE5 file is already deodexed and rooted. Therefore, you don't lose root. You get Wi-Fi calling feature with this updated. And, I believe it's an update to the modem.
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Wow that was a fast fix. How can I go about installing this? (File download and method of installation)
triplepwnu said:
Wow that was a fast fix. How can I go about installing this? (File download and method of installation)
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Just download the file and follow the instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2787760&page=2
Remember: You will lose all data. So it's better if you do a backup of your data using Titanium or alike to get the data back.
Robbie Doo said:
Just download the file and follow the instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2787760&page=2
Remember: You will lose all data. So it's better if you do a backup of your data using Titanium or alike to get the data back.
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Will do. So this keeps PhilZ? And this is the update after ND2, making it the most recent? Sorry for all the noob questions, I've never had this problem with my Galaxy Nexus, Droid, or Motorola Xoom.
triplepwnu said:
Will do. So this keeps PhilZ? And this is the update after ND2, making it the most recent? Sorry for all the noob questions, I've never had this problem with my Galaxy Nexus, Droid, or Motorola Xoom.
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If it takes you back to full stock then you can re-root using the same method you rooted the first time and it will root just fine.
Robbie Doo said:
If it takes you back to full stock then you can re-root using the same method you rooted the first time and it will root just fine.
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Is this the same as this?
triplepwnu said:
Is this the same as this?
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Yes, they are the same.
Also, I'm assuming you have all your rooting files already.
Robbie Doo said:
Yes, they are the same.
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Ok. So I just flash straight through ODIN? Do I have to wipe anything before?
triplepwnu said:
Ok. So I just flash straight through ODIN? Do I have to wipe anything before?
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Yes, that would be a good idea. PhilZ has a special feature in the factory reset to wipe out everything for installing a new rom. Use that feature and you're good to go.

Rooting + Ota updates

Hey guys I will get my phone this week and I was wondering what these OTA updates are?
When I press update in the options of oneplus, is that it?
I wanna root my phone but I heard OTA updates might not be available.
So, are they available or not? Should I root the phone? I really need it but I don't wanna miss any oficial updates.
I hope I don't lose my root later or something!
OTA updates are Over The Air Updates, and usually they include bug fixes, new functionalities or even a new version of android.
I red in this forum that rooting the OPO does not void the warranty and the phone continues to perform the OTA updates.
Can anyone confirm?
If you change the recovery you may lose the ability to receive the ota updates. But, you're in luck, you can boot into a custom recovery and flash the zip file to gain root access without installing the recovery on the phone itself.
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A couple tutorials floating around and I believe stickied explain this.
cyldman said:
Hey guys I will get my phone this week and I was wondering what these OTA updates are?
When I press update in the options of oneplus, is that it?
I wanna root my phone but I heard OTA updates might not be available.
So, are they available or not? Should I root the phone? I really need it but I don't wanna miss any oficial updates.
I hope I don't lose my root later or something!
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if you root the phone you can flash the updated file or any file for that matter. So to not root your phone to update it to the latest rom to then root your phone and put something completely different on it makes no sense.
Now if you are rooting just to keep stock and root - again you can root and flash stock rom from this forum.. Win Win for you
playya said:
if you root the phone you can flash the updated file or any file for that matter. So to not root your phone to update it to the latest rom to then root your phone and put something completely different on it makes no sense.
Now if you are rooting just to keep stock and root - again you can root and flash stock rom from this forum.. Win Win for you
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Hi,
I want some clarity on how OTA is tied with recovery ? If I put TWRP recovery will I loose the ability for OTA?
Thanks
zaibrockstar said:
Hi,
I want some clarity on how OTA is tied with recovery ? If I put TWRP recovery will I loose the ability for OTA?
Thanks
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From my understanding not with 1+1 but OTA's are generally flashed via stock recovery and not custom ones. Question - what was your other android phone?
playya said:
From my understanding not with 1+1 but OTA's are generally flashed via stock recovery and not custom ones. Question - what was your other android phone?
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I had Nexus 4, Now I am using Nexus 5. I bought OPO to gift to my Dad and wanted to use adfree or adaway and give the phone as it is. But for them to work I need to root access. My understanding is once you put a unlock boot loader and have TWRP, then root it. I will loose OTA. I will not be able to flash the phone every time there is an update as he lives in a different country and I cant travel quite often.
Thanks
zaibrockstar said:
I had Nexus 4, Now I am using Nexus 5. I bought OPO to gift to my Dad and wanted to use adfree or adaway and give the phone as it is. But for them to work I need to root access. My understanding is once you put a unlock boot loader and have TWRP, then root it. I will loose OTA. I will not be able to flash the phone every time there is an update as he lives in a different country and I cant travel quite often.
Thanks
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Then I would go to the thread in general that shows you how to root your phone without unlocking bootloader and use that method . http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/help/root-unlocking-bootloader-t2820628
playya said:
Then I would go to the thread in general that shows you how to root your phone without unlocking bootloader and use that method . http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/help/root-unlocking-bootloader-t2820628
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Thanks for the info. I had read this, but was not clear.
Instead just run "fastboot boot recovery.img" and flash the supersu zip from there.
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What I have understood is we are just booting into default recovery and flashing the su binary. Is that correct ?
I have one risk in such case. I will not have an Nandriod Backup with default recovery.
Thanks
zaibrockstar said:
Thanks for the info. I had read this, but was not clear.
What I have understood is we are just booting into default recovery and flashing the su binary. Is that correct ?
I have one risk in such case. I will not have an Nandriod Backup with default recovery.
Thanks
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Stock recovery can always be reflashed and you follow the directions as posted to the tee and yes you boot into recovery flash su binary and thats it. To my understanding you will be flashing twrp but instead of it sticking it just flashes for that session so that you can flash the su binary.
I would go to that thread and ask in there directly for those that have done it or google it. This is of course if that is the route you would like to take
I have received the ota & updated on twrp.No problems
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cyldman said:
Hey guys I will get my phone this week and I was wondering what these OTA updates are?
When I press update in the options of oneplus, is that it?
I wanna root my phone but I heard OTA updates might not be available.
So, are they available or not? Should I root the phone? I really need it but I don't wanna miss any oficial updates.
I hope I don't lose my root later or something!
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See this to root without unlocking. http://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-one/help/root-unlocking-bootloader-t2820628/page4
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