Database Info

[Q] What happens with root?

Hello XDA members
I was wondering, when the new android sandwich comes out, and you got a rooted and S-off HTC sensation. But not custom rom. What will happen to the root and S-off when you update to the new android sandwich?
Thanks

Want to know too ahehhe

We'll lose root but keep S-OFF I'd imagine

Cool, thanks for the answer

I have perm-rooted my Sensation and i was wondering when the new official update from HTC comes out will i be able to install it automatically like when i was not rooted or because i am S-Off it will not let me?
Thanks

i could be wrong but no you wont be able to perform an ota update. im only saying this because the last ota update failed because the update looks for the stock recovery in order to update the system. seeing that you are rooted i assume you have cwm installed and if this ota update does indeed look for the stock recovery than it will fail. the only way around this is to either instal a stock ruu and lose root or instal the stock recovery and again lose root. either way you are gonna lose root.

Could you give me a link where there is a guide to install the stock recovery?

TheStigx said:
Could you give me a link where there is a guide to install the stock recovery?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you check the development forum, there's a thread which has shipped roms in it. Flash one to restore stock recovery.
Panagiotis. said:
I have perm-rooted my Sensation and i was wondering when the new official update from HTC comes out will i be able to install it automatically like when i was not rooted or because i am S-Off it will not let me?
Thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Depends. If you're just running the original rom which came on your phone but rooted, it should still allow ota updates, but you'll lose root (but keep s-off). If you're on a custom rom you won't receive an ota.
To OP, if you ran an ruu or ota of ice cream sandwich, as eddy says, you'll lose root but remain s-off. That said, a custom ics rom will probably come out weeks/months before an official HTC update

Well, when we got the RUU, we can extract and repack to our rooted ROM

It should be this if i am right ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074559

satanevil said:
Well, when we got the RUU, we can extract and repack to our rooted ROM
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's true, but we'll see aosp ics roms long before we have sense skinned ones, as cyanogen et al don't need to spend months porting frameworks.
TheStigx said:
It should be this if i am right ? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1074559
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's the one

BTaylor927 said:
Depends. If you're just running the original rom which came on your phone but rooted, it should still allow ota updates, but you'll lose root (but keep s-off). If you're on a custom rom you won't receive an ota.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes I am running the stock rom so I will receive the pta update. I know that I will lose root in every scenario if I install the stock ROM one way or another.
Thanks.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using Tapatalk

So i just flash one of these roms, without deleting cache or doing a reset ?

not entirely true. i was rooted on stock rom when the last ota rolled out. i tried installing it but it failed. i did a lil search here and found a few people mentioned that it failed due to cwm and they also mentioned that you should try flashing back the stock recovery. i tried that and it installed successfully. easy way to get the stock recovery is to instal the correct ruu of your rom. but as we all know it wipes out everything off your phone. i did find this guide which the stigx has asked for (sorry buddy didnt see you there ) which shows you how to extracted the stock recovery off of the ruu and than flash it back to your phone.
check here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1228648

Divine flaw said:
not entirely true. i was rooted on stock rom when the last ota rolled out. i tried installing it but it failed. i did a lil search here and found a few people mentioned that it failed due to cwm and they also mentioned that you should try flashing back the stock recovery. i tried that and it installed successfully. easy way to get the stock recovery is to instal the correct ruu of your rom. but as we all know it wipes out everything off your phone. i did find this guide which the stigx has asked for (sorry buddy didnt see you there ) which shows you how to extracted the stock recovery off of the ruu and than flash it back to your phone.
check here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1228648
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
But if I need to follow your guide i have to have the OTA update file,w hich haven't comet out yet. What do i Do? It seems so hard to remove root and custom recovery :'(
But thank for your answer !

well the general idea is to get your stock recovery back without losin your data. so really all you need to do is flash your stock recovery reboot your phone and check for updates. if updates are available: system>about phone>check for updates, download the update and install. it shouldnt fail cause you have stock recovery instead of cwm. in short just do the top part of the guide and skip the rest cause you dont have the updates file on your computer.

So if i do step 1-12 I will have normal phone? Just like I started or do i still keep root?
Thank you so much for your hep !

TheStigx said:
Could you give me a link where there is a guide to install the stock recovery?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can also use this software to install the stock recovery. that way you don't loose settings by installing RUU

TheStigx said:
So if i do step 1-12 I will have normal phone? Just like I started or do i still keep root?
Thank you so much for your hep !
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yes you do 1-12 but you keep root. the only difference is that you will no longer have cwm for flashing, back up, and all other goodies. but once you run the ota and it installs you lose root.
but have a look at the link frederikh just posted. seems alot better than the current method. im reading over it now

Thanks for the answers!
I think i will go with the link frederikh gave me But God bless you Divine! Thank you for your help !

[Q] Returning to stock [i9020a]

I just wanted to make sure that I understood the process of returning my phone to stock before I make a mistake.
All I've done since I purchased the phone was root it and unlock the bootloader. I have not loaded any custom roms.
So If I understand this correctly I need to:
1) Flash the Stock Image (which should include the stock recovery?)
2) Use fastboot to lock the bootloader
The reason I'm wanting to return the phone to stock is to receive OTA updates. I never use any apps requiring root, and don't plan on loading any custom roms.
I never did find a 2.3.4 stock image for the I9020A..

you should actually be able to get ota updates no problem. it'll just remove root every time you update.
it's probably not a good idea to lock the bootloader though cause if you ever want to unlock it again in the future you'll have to wipe everything from your phone. your best bet is to just flash stock recovery so you can install the update
i'm pretty sure that works, but hopefully someone else can verify just so you don't get some bad information lol

I heard the same thing about OTA updates. If you're phone is rooted and you're using the original rom, you'll get the update but you'll have to root your phone once again.
I haven't tried this myself so I cannot verify it.
It's just the word on the street, you know!

EraqEE said:
I heard the same thing about OTA updates. If you're phone is rooted and you're using the original rom, you'll get the update but you'll have to root your phone once again.
I haven't tried this myself so I cannot verify it.
It's just the word on the street, you know!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
you need stock everything, so stock kernel, rom, radio, etc... the op should be fine to update if they flash stock recovery though. rooting is simple from there

dmuntean said:
I just wanted to make sure that I understood the process of returning my phone to stock before I make a mistake.
All I've done since I purchased the phone was root it and unlock the bootloader. I have not loaded any custom roms.
So If I understand this correctly I need to:
1) Flash the Stock Image (which should include the stock recovery?)
2) Use fastboot to lock the bootloader
The reason I'm wanting to return the phone to stock is to receive OTA updates. I never use any apps requiring root, and don't plan on loading any custom roms.
I never did find a 2.3.4 stock image for the I9020A..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
where can i find a method to return a phone thats unlocked and rooted? any help would be appreciated.
Sent from my Inspire 3G.

bdpyo said:
where can i find a method to return a phone thats unlocked and rooted? any help would be appreciated.
Sent from my Inspire 3G.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I would like to do the same, I have a Fido/ATT I9020A and I'm having a hard time finding a stock nandroid backup to restore my phone with...
Anyone?>

bump
Sent from my Inspire 3G.

Here is stock 2.3.4 (GRJ22) with UCKD1 Radio & KA3 Bootloader.. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7812800/Stock-GRJ22-i9020A-unsigned.zip Flash via ClockworkMod Recovery (due to it being unsigned zip)
I extracted and packaged it from my i9020a (and tested it on there).

how do you recomend flashing?
Sent from my Inspire 3G.

bdpyo said:
how do you recomend flashing?
Sent from my Inspire 3G.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry forgot to add that to post... since its unsigned you need to flash via ClockworkMod Recovery.

kibmcz said:
Sorry forgot to add that to post... since its unsigned you need to flash via ClockworkMod Recovery.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks kibmcz ! I'm a n00b when it comes to this but when you say flash via ClockworkMod you mean get into clockwork recovery mount the usb, transfer the zip onto the SD card and then <<Install from zip>> ?
Is that the method?

davis2k said:
Thanks kibmcz ! I'm a n00b when it comes to this but when you say flash via ClockworkMod you mean get into clockwork recovery mount the usb, transfer the zip onto the SD card and then <<Install from zip>> ?
Is that the method?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yep that method works

kibmcz said:
Yep that method works
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks again kibmcz, so I just completed the flash, then did a fastbook oem lock.
Seems to be working fine except for one thing...
When I go into settings and hit Sound I get a Force close when I try and select a new ringtone...
Should I try reflashing again?

davis2k said:
Thanks again kibmcz, so I just completed the flash, then did a fastbook oem lock.
Seems to be working fine except for one thing...
When I go into settings and hit Sound I get a Force close when I try and select a new ringtone...
Should I try reflashing again?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Didn't happen on mine (In fact im using a self rooted rom based on that exact stock zip) try doing a wipe in stock recovery.

after flashing that does it take it back to out of box condition?
reason i ask is because i bought a already rooted and unlocked one here from market place and i want to return it to stock firmware, radio, kernel and such to recieve OTA updates and what not.
your info is greatly appreciated
Sent from my Inspire 3G.

bdpyo said:
after flashing that does it take it back to out of box condition?
reason i ask is because i bought a already rooted and unlocked one here from market place and i want to return it to stock firmware, radio, kernel and such to recieve OTA updates and what not.
your info is greatly appreciated
Sent from my Inspire 3G.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Using my zip yes... it flashes Bootloader, Radio, Boot, System and on first boot (and any other time recovery changes) Recovery is flashed. All you got to to is lock the bootloader and that wipes user data and usb storage.

hey man i appreciate you coming forward with a solution, ive yet to recieve the phone but wanted to prepare.
my goal is to flash everything back to stock and start completly over whereas i have no clue what method was originally used to root and unlock the bootloader.
when the time comes hope you dont mind a PM if i have any extra questions.
Sent from my Inspire 3G.

Just did the method using the stock ROM provided by kibmcz "thanks BTW!"
Phone is back to stock, working like it did when I first bought it. Had a little trouble with some Force Close issues but did a factory reset/data clear of the cache and all that before re-flashing, and it seems to be working Vanilla!

bdpyo said:
hey man i appreciate you coming forward with a solution, ive yet to recieve the phone but wanted to prepare.
my goal is to flash everything back to stock and start completly over whereas i have no clue what method was originally used to root and unlock the bootloader.
when the time comes hope you dont mind a PM if i have any extra questions.
Sent from my Inspire 3G.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Great and thanks DM all you want i don't mind. Oh and i now got stock 2.3.6 (GRK39F) uploaded.
Code:
[B][URL="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7812800/Stock-GRK39F-I9020a-unsigned.zip"][B]Android 2.3.6/GRK39F/UCKF1 Radio/KA3 Bootloader[/B][/URL][/B]
Works on: I9020A
Unofficial, unsigned, must flash through ClockworkMod Recovery. Contains recovery, radio and bootloader.

kibmcz said:
Great and thanks DM all you want i don't mind. Oh and i now got stock 2.3.6 (GRK39F) uploaded.
Code:
[B][URL="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7812800/Stock-GRK39F-I9020a-unsigned.zip"][B]Android 2.3.6/GRK39F/UCKF1 Radio/KA3 Bootloader[/B][/URL][/B]
Works on: I9020A
Unofficial, unsigned, must flash through ClockworkMod Recovery. Contains recovery, radio and bootloader.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So all I have done to my nexus s is root and cwm and kernel. I can do the ota to 2.3.6 or flash your package?
Running build GTJ61 and I9020AUCKE1 2.3.4 stock.
Sent from my Nexus S using xda premium

Rooting and Updates

My Note 10.1 is rooted - Quite simply in fact - Will I be able to receive OTA updates if rooted (then I will just lose root upon accepting) or do I need to have the stock recovery to get these?

u can. u just need to flash back to stock recovery, download "ota root keeper" to restore ur root after ota update

omnia1994 said:
u can. u just need to flash back to stock recovery, download "ota root keeper" to restore ur root after ota update
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
so I DO need to flash the stock? wondering if I should even leave this thing rooted...Pretty good on it's own

terrapin69 said:
so I DO need to flash the stock? wondering if I should even leave this thing rooted...Pretty good on it's own
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
depends own urself. i root it to restore my apps from my motorola xoom, and to use apps that requires rooting like titanium backup, adfree etc

yeah - me too actually - dont really mess with the CPU or anything - Thanks

omnia1994 said:
u can. u just need to flash back to stock recovery, download "ota root keeper" to restore ur root after ota update
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
finally, got ppl answer to this question.
:highfive: thanks mate...
but, actually, what thing has make this note 10.1 differs from N7000 ? why can't do the update with the custom CWM installed ?
Does this apply only for OTA update ? or if we download the firmware and want to flash via ODIN, we do still need to flash back to stock recovery first before do the firmware update via ODIN ?
Thanks,
Sent from the corner of this rounded earth.

How to remove CWM Recovery?

I want to remove CWM Recovery because I actually want to install an OTA update *gasp* and Clockworkmod seems to prevent it from installing correctly. My phone is NOT rooted and is running stock kernel and ROM. I will be willing to root if necessary though.

mhrazor1 said:
I want to remove CWM Recovery because I actually want to install an OTA update *gasp* and Clockworkmod seems to prevent it from installing correctly. My phone is NOT rooted and is running stock kernel and ROM. I will be willing to root if necessary though.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Odin a stock ROM and that will do it. Then get your OTA update.

sfobrien said:
Odin a stock ROM and that will do it. Then get your OTA update.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Get EZ recovery from the market. That will allow you to install the stock recovery.

-title goes here-
dmpaul1 said:
Get EZ recovery from the market. That will allow you to install the stock recovery.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
While this did work and install stock recovery, the OTA update still fails. So I just gave up on it, re-rooted, installed CWM again, and installed a custom kernel. Thank you anyway.

mhrazor1 said:
While this did work and install stock recovery, the OTA update still fails. So I just gave up on it, re-rooted, installed CWM again, and installed a custom kernel. Thank you anyway.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
any reason you ignored sfobriens post? fyi he is correct...odin back to stock then ota. not sure why you want to ota anyway. If you want the latest flash invisibleks vralhd stock rom.

droidstyle said:
any reason you ignored sfobriens post? fyi he is correct...odin back to stock then ota. not sure why you want to ota anyway. If you want the latest flash invisibleks vralhd stock rom.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I didn't ignore it, I'm just not very comfortable with using Odin since that's how I killed my Galaxy Tab

Why would u want an OTA update? an OTA update could just as easily make your phone's bootloader locked again, etc.

cobija said:
Why would u want an OTA update? an OTA update could just as easily make your phone's bootloader locked again, etc.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
bootloader can be unlocked again even with OTA.

[Q][Solved] NE5 Update with Philz Recovery and SuperSU? (Not Towelroot)

So I saw here that the NE5 update was out, and I want to install it. However, obviously I can't do an OTA update due to it being a "modified device." I am running Philz Recovery and root from flashing SuperSU.zip.
Is there any way to update manually, without losing root (permanently), recovery, or wiping all my data? I know that I could always restore the stock recovery and firmware via ODIN, but that would get rid of everything, including my data.
(Side question: What exactly does the NE5 update add? I know it's another build of 4.4.2 but what features?)
Thanks.
SOLVED: Just went the long route with wiping and installing the updated NE5 firmware via ODIN. Flashed Philz recovery and SuperSU.
Admins/Mods feel free to delete.

triplepwnu said:
So I saw here that the NE5 update was out, and I want to install it. However, obviously I can't do an OTA update due to it being a "modified device." I am running Philz Recovery and root from flashing SuperSU.zip.
Is there any way to update manually, without losing root (permanently), recovery, or wiping all my data? I know that I could always restore the stock recovery and firmware via ODIN, but that would get rid of everything, including my data.
(Side question: What exactly does the NE5 update add? I know it's another build of 4.4.2 but what features?)
Thanks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The NE5 file is already deodexed and rooted. Therefore, you don't lose root. You get Wi-Fi calling feature with this updated. And, I believe it's an update to the modem.

Robbie Doo said:
The NE5 file is already deodexed and rooted. Therefore, you don't lose root. You get Wi-Fi calling feature with this updated. And, I believe it's an update to the modem.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wow that was a fast fix. How can I go about installing this? (File download and method of installation)

triplepwnu said:
Wow that was a fast fix. How can I go about installing this? (File download and method of installation)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just download the file and follow the instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2787760&page=2
Remember: You will lose all data. So it's better if you do a backup of your data using Titanium or alike to get the data back.

Robbie Doo said:
Just download the file and follow the instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2787760&page=2
Remember: You will lose all data. So it's better if you do a backup of your data using Titanium or alike to get the data back.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Will do. So this keeps PhilZ? And this is the update after ND2, making it the most recent? Sorry for all the noob questions, I've never had this problem with my Galaxy Nexus, Droid, or Motorola Xoom.

triplepwnu said:
Will do. So this keeps PhilZ? And this is the update after ND2, making it the most recent? Sorry for all the noob questions, I've never had this problem with my Galaxy Nexus, Droid, or Motorola Xoom.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If it takes you back to full stock then you can re-root using the same method you rooted the first time and it will root just fine.

Robbie Doo said:
If it takes you back to full stock then you can re-root using the same method you rooted the first time and it will root just fine.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Is this the same as this?

triplepwnu said:
Is this the same as this?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, they are the same.
Also, I'm assuming you have all your rooting files already.

Robbie Doo said:
Yes, they are the same.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok. So I just flash straight through ODIN? Do I have to wipe anything before?

triplepwnu said:
Ok. So I just flash straight through ODIN? Do I have to wipe anything before?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, that would be a good idea. PhilZ has a special feature in the factory reset to wipe out everything for installing a new rom. Use that feature and you're good to go.