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[BREAKING NEWS] Those on grandfathered Unlimited Data

http://www.phonedog.com/2011/07/28/at-t-to-begin-throttling-unlimited-data-users-in-october/
Talks of throttling the unlimited Data usage for many of you inspire users.
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mattmiller said:
http://www.phonedog.com/2011/07/28/at-t-to-begin-throttling-unlimited-data-users-in-october/
Talks of throttling the unlimited Data usage for many of you inspire users.
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Suckness if true

I'm no longer under contract, but I'll ride the unlimited data for the time being.

FML .
The question I have, though, is if using a non-AT&T radio could stop the ability to be throttled. Anyone care to chime in?

The throttling isn't done on the device, it's done on their end.
EDIT: ATT FTL if this is true.

After an extensive call with att, they said this will NOT be happening.

Tx Redneck said:
After an extensive call with att, they said this will NOT be happening.
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That's great news, I was about to call them and give them a what for.
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nash2000 said:
That's great news, I was about to call them and give them a what for.
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Lol
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I stayed with unlimited because friends told me the 2g plan always went over. Not fair I gotta suffer and pay more.
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Yeah the same kind of service when I asked about tethering thru WiFi hotspot or usb,they said it was ok. You really think they have a clue? I've worked at ATT and Sprint,they only say the stuff they know,and the stuff they don't know,well...kinda a hush hush. I'll guarantee it will happen.
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After an extensive call with att, they said this will NOT be happening.
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mattmiller said:
Yeah the same kind of service when I asked about tethering thru WiFi hotspot or usb,they said it was ok. You really think they have a clue? I've worked at ATT and Sprint,they only say the stuff they know,and the stuff they don't know,well...kinda a hush hush. I'll guarantee it will happen.
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I don't discount your having worked for them and what you experienced, but if I have it in writing, it ain't happenin to me.

It's all a money grab.
Combine cellular data limits and AT&T's home DSL data limits along with Netflix (and every other provider) trying to force us into using streaming media and VoIP, and we get screwed.

Sunamabeech!
http://www.slashgear.com/att-confirms-data-throttling-to-start-october-1-29168428/
http://www.att.com/gen/press-room?pid=20535&cdvn=news&newsarticleid=32318&mapcode=corporate

The top 5% feel the pain it looks like. I suppose if you are using 10+ gigs a month I am not sure I feel for ya. Personally I have never gone over 5 but I also have internet service at Home.
Here come the "I pay for unlimited" posts.

If it doesn't affect me I don't care. I use maybe 3 gigs a month..
If it adversely affects me then It will give me reasons to look else where when I get to re-up again.
Anyone know if this is enough of a change to the plan you signed up for to allow canceling the account?

Lmao WiFi and using maybe 4gigs works for me.imo
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mattmiller said:
Yeah the same kind of service when I asked about tethering thru WiFi hotspot or usb,they said it was ok. You really think they have a clue? I've worked at ATT and Sprint,they only say the stuff they know,and the stuff they don't know,well...kinda a hush hush. I'll guarantee it will happen.
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I am on the unlimited plan and got sent a letter threatening to drop me to a tiered plan if I do not stop tethering via usb. Can they do that?
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Read about the limit
I read on a post yesterday (can't find it now) that the expected threshold for throttling will be somewhere in the vicinity of 50gb a month. In my mind, reasonable.

Holy crap. My biggest month was 16 and I thought that was a lot lol
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rpogorek said:
I read on a post yesterday (can't find it now) that the expected threshold for throttling will be somewhere in the vicinity of 50gb a month. In my mind, reasonable.
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You must find that NAO!

T-Mobile us 5gb plan includes tethering

As title states, I saw a post some were asking if the 5 gig data plan includes tethering. I just got of the phone with t mobile and it dose. Just for anyone who was wandering.
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are you rooted
i tried it with a rooted one s and didn't work
will try my Tether App

No i have stock phone. To be clear though. I do not own a laptop so I can't test it. I'm just relaying what the T-Mobile dude told me. But when I connect my usb to the desktop and select USB tether I don't get any blocks or messages so I would conclude that the USB tethering is permitted.
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maybe because i am rooted
my tether app works though

Okay, I think I know...first install the HTC sync driver.... Then make sure that works. And I bet the tether well work then. It did for me I tested on the desktop. Good luck.
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Already installed but not recognizing phone. It did recognize phone when first installed. Has given me some some adb issues. Will probaly uninstall it.

Well at least you can get it to work with another tether app. And plus since tethering is included in the 5 gigs plan they shouldn't bother you about tethering. I don't think they care what app you use anyway.
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They did with my nexus one.
Hopefully they won't bother me with this phone.

The guy at Tmobile said I needed to pay 5 dollars a month for the data plan that included tethering. He said it was needed for the phone... I always root my devices so I tether either way but I said okay and got the phone. Since I was paying for it I decided to try it out and it's actually not bad. You activate it through the wifi hotspots in the app drawer. I'm on a EU rom now so I'm not sure what it's called on Tmobile US rom... Anyways it works perfectly and is able to tether up to 8 devices but I would assume you're data couldn't handle that much lol. Goes to show how good Tmobile thinks their HSPA is.... It is pretty nice having the option tethering multiple devices. I'm happy paying 5 bucks for that feature
Oh I almost forgot it works perfectly rooted or unrooted... I tried it before rooting and it works just the same now.
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I know when I get a laptop ill tether the poo out of this phone. And I dare them to say anything to me...lol
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rugmankc said:
maybe because i am rooted
my tether app works though
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Hey rugmankc, what tether app are you using?
Didn't have to worry about this with CM7 on the N1.
Thanks

6370 said:
As title states, I saw a post some were asking if the 5 gig data plan includes tethering. I just got of the phone with t mobile and it dose. Just for anyone who was wandering.
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The 5 gig plan includes tethering. I am not rooted and upgraded to that plan for the purpose of tethering and it includes it. At first it did not work, I called and said, I was told this plan included tethering, the lady was very nice and enabled it. Told me to turn the phone off and reboot and then it would work. It did. I haven't done anything else and the native app works great.

I have the 5gig plan didn't know this was included thanks
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ickedmel said:
I have the 5gig plan didn't know this was included thanks
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Me either... Is it the same for 10gb? I just changed my plan when got the one s
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glacierguy said:
Me either... Is it the same for 10gb? I just changed my plan when got the one s
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I think if the 5 does, so should the 10 gb, I think at one point it was advertised as having tethering, just call and act like you were told this was the case. I thought I was going to have to threaten things but they did it without argument.
I just looked at their webpage and all their new plans seem to include it. It doesn't hurt to call.

baseballfanz said:
Hey rugmankc, what tether app are you using?
Didn't have to worry about this with CM7 on the N1.
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It is a paid app. But cheaper than 10.00 twice a year on vacation. No pc available atm and in 2g only area and spent last nite in ER. So, didn't read anything on the tmo free tether with 5gb plan which I have.
http://tether.com/android/windows

Wireless tethering

I have an HTC one x att, I was wondering since I am on vacation I would like to use tethering I have unlimited data. I was wondering is there anyway I could mask the data usage and tethering from art so they cannot see I am using it.
I am rooted, and I have tetherguard installed. Is there anyway to add apn so att doesn't find out I'm tethering or throttle my 4g data.
Thank you
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jessgerb said:
Is there anyway to add apn so att doesn't find out I'm tethering or throttle my 4g data.
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If you ask 10 people this (or do 10 Google searches), you're going to get 10 different answers. The bottom line is that no one quite seems to know how AT&T tracks/detects tethering or how they decide whom to go after.
I've been tethering shamelessly for years, first on my jailbroken iPhones and now on my HOX, and I've never gotten a single warning about it.
In my experience, the main thing is to keep your data usage down. Don't use it to move large files or stream video. In general, from what I've seen, it's the bandwidth hogs who get caught.
Various people/devs will tell you there are various ways of "hiding" your tethering, but I have doubts these people really know what they're talking about. Nothing is going to hide the fact that your Android phone has put in an http request to visit Microsoft update because your laptop wants to update itself.

Thank you and I was wondering since I have unlimited data do you know how much data you can use until att will send the throttling message.
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jessgerb said:
Thank you and I was wondering since I have unlimited data do you know how much data you can use until att will send the throttling message.
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It varies but 5GB is usually the threshold. I've gotten up to 4.8 without getting throttled.

Also one thing, if they do throttle is it for rest of life or for just till rest of billing cycle.
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I use foxfi and have not gotten a warning. Then again I keep the usage down.
If you plan on using 20 gb in movies expect to get caught.
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No I'm not planning on a lot its just I'm already on 1.5 gbs and still have 19 days
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jessgerb said:
Also one thing, if they do throttle is it for rest of life or for just till rest of billing cycle.
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I believe it's through the end of your current billing cycle.

Anyone else receive this from att?

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Sorry cant upload screen shot so ill write it out." AT&T Free Msg: We've noticed you're continuing to enjoy the tethering feature with your smartphone. Your plan has been updated to a tethering plan ($50/mo, incl. 5GB) and you'll soon see this change reflected on an upcoming billing statement. Visit att.com/dataplans or call 866-679-7136." ?
Thing is I haven't use it since three.months ago and that was just for a minute.
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Did you check online to see if the changes were actually made to your account? Dunno why att would send you that several months later. I've never had that happen to me but then again I haven't used tethering in forever.
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No I didn't and i tether occasionally
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Sorry cant upload screen shot so ill write it out." AT&T Free Msg: We've noticed you're continuing to enjoy the tethering feature with your smartphone. Your plan has been updated to a tethering plan ($50/mo, incl. 5GB) and you'll soon see this change reflected on an upcoming billing statement. Visit att.com/dataplans or call 866-679-7136." ?
Thing is I haven't use it since three.months ago and that was just for a minute.
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They monitor your data usage, and if it spikes they go back and check to see if the destination ip of the packets is set to anything other than your phone.
You should have received at least one warning though.
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You should give them a call but they detect it with the number of bumps It takes to connect the data I believe..... But you should of recieved a warning

I thought Canada had it bad when it came to plans but this is ridiculous. They actually force you to go on a tethering plan? $50 for 5GB?
Jeez... That's pricey.
I'm so glad Canadian carriers don't have restrictions on tethering other than you need at least 1GB of data.
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Ok so here the update I was busy at the time to go to att so my dad who is the primary account went to att and find out what's going on. According to them they say my number was detected as tethering. I don't believe this since I haven't done this in three months. They told my dad that were going to give me a warning...next time I receive this message I'm going down to att and make them prove to me that I'm tethering since all I do on my phones is surf the net, download apps, be on Xda, and on eBay.
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Ok so here the update I was busy at the time to go to att so my dad who is the primary account went to att and find out what's going on. According to them they say my number was detected as tethering. I don't believe this since I haven't done this in three months. They told my dad that were going to give me a warning...next time I receive this message I'm going down to att and make them prove to me that I'm tethering since all I do on my phones is surf the net, download apps, be on Xda, and on eBay.
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You wouldn't win if you go down the store....its quite simple to tell if someone's tethering just measure the number of bumps it took to carry the data.... Even if it was three months ago they recorded it and maybe youve been using a lot of data lately...don't use tethering now since you're on their radar

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You wouldn't win if you go down the store....its quite simple to tell if someone's tethering just measure the number of bumps it took to carry the data.... Even if it was three months ago they recorded it and maybe youve been using a lot of data lately...don't use tethering now since you're on their radar
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Tru.dat. And by "bumps", kittens means "hops". They will scold you for it. Which is bs. A "hop" is one device transferred to another. Aka AT&T to your phone is 1 hop.. AT&T to your phone to your PC is 2. They can see this.
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So does anyone here still use tethering?
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I only tether when I absolutely need too...they USUALLY will look at people who use huge amounts of data on their unlimited plans and from their they determine if they're tethering or not. .but if you have a huge data peak they will check you out so I try not to tether really except when its necessary

I agree. I'm on a 3gb a month plan and that barely gets me by the month. Time to hit the lotto and crest my own carrier
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What's the point with not be able to tether but there are apps that allow you to do so? Seems like my freedom has been taken away from me.
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More money for them...data is data they could easily allow you to tether on that 3gb plan it wouldn't any more of a hassle for them at all actually they wouldn't have to do anything...data is just data! One day you'll learn its all about money

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So does anyone here still use tethering?
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I've tethered, but very seldom. Most usually if traveling, and in a place that either doesn't have WiFi for my laptop or tablet, or the hotel WiFi is too slow. Haven't had any warning or message from AT&T. Pretty sure there are a decent amount of people tethering still.
There was another thread a couple months ago, where the OP got the warning message, but swore up and down that he didn't tether at all. He asked AT&T to prove it, but don't know if they ever gave him any proof.
The method by which data use is monitored by AT&T seems far from consistent, and also seems room for error. Which looks like might be the case in your instance.

im on my phone all day every day and i never break my cap of 3 gigs some times i barely break 1.5 gigs
i do tether when i need it but its very rare for me todo so

I was busted for tethering but they sent me a letter in the mail warning me that they would change my unlimited plan to a tethering plan if I was caught again. So no more tethering for me
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ericdhartmann said:
I was busted for tethering but they sent me a letter in the mail warning me that they would change my unlimited plan to a tethering plan if I was caught again. So no more tethering for me
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Wow. I feel bad for you guys. Not only is tethering included on my normal data plan, but when I tether to upload, it never shows up on my data usage.
Gee. That sounds like I'm rubbing it in, but I'm actually just mad that they charge you.
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verizon unlimited users

How much data is to much? I don't want to send any red flags about my account which already may be to late because I'm at 12gb lol.

None I use 30GB and don't have a problem.
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nicotheandroidguy said:
None I use 30GB and don't have a problem.
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Thats alot of mobile porn.
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g...flew-over-the-cuckoo.gif#jack off gif 350x200

No I use phone as Wi-Fi hotspot to power whole house which is my iPad Mac Netflix on my tv and app and software updates and app updates. Also I update my nexus to the latest nightly builds at about half a GB done every 2 days it calculates correctly with no porn
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I use 250gb per month...
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Jeez, that's awesome. Take full advantage while you can.
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I have unlimited too, and I use around 5 GB without tethering and haven't heard anything from Verizon.
I also read somewhere that it's unlimited users on 3G phones that get throttled and have issues. Phones with 4G data don't get throttled or taken notice by Verizon. A quick Google search can show some talk supporting the statement, so that's something to think about!

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I use 250gb per month...
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Holy crap! And I thought my record of 113gb was insane! What do you do?
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I generally go through about 12-50gb a month...just depends on how much 4g time I can get my hands on lol.

a close friend of mine uses 60-80 per month streaming HD video (netflix, nhl gamecenter, nfl games, etc) and has never heard anything. Just another point of data for context

Oh yeah lol. I'm thinking about canceling my cable internet because I don't get the speeds advertised. Sad my phone has a better and more consistent connection than my cable internet.

We top 5% 4G users might be "flagged" in the future and be placed on "verizon network optimization."

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We top 5% 4G users might be "flagged" in the future and be placed on "verizon network optimization."
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I've been hearing that forever. Its not going to happen. Due to situations outside of my control I needed to ditch my unlimited. And I miss it ever day
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Why would we get flagged? We have unlimited data. We chose not to buy a phone subsidized by Verizon so that we can keep unlimited data.
I am the IT guy for a church and school and I've upgraded 10 users to 4G phones through eBay and Craigslist. One of our staff members uses 40GB a month, I use about 15 GB. All of us go well over 2 GB, but what does it matter? We have unlimited data!
It would stand to reason that AT&T users with grandfathered unlimited plans are more abundant than us since they can still upgrade through AT&T and keep unlimited data.
I don't see why anyone would get flagged. The number of unlimited data VZW users will only decrease over time. Verizon makes more money than anyone. They add towers practically every week.
I say, sit back, and soak up the data!

I run my entire house off my wifi tether. No cable, no internet only my galaxy s3....I'm a flashaholic... so i switch between roms almost daily. Running three cpu's and two phones off the connection. Grandfathered contact like a mug lol
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JCBiznatch said:
I run my entire house off my wifi tether. No cable, no internet only my galaxy s3....I'm a flashaholic... so i switch between roms almost daily. Running three cpu's and two phones off the connection. Grandfathered contact like a mug lol
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Those running there home internet off their Galaxy (or any phone via Wi-Fi tether), how does your family use the internet when you're not around? I often considered this, but doesn't seem practical.

lol you got me beat
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I use 250gb per month...
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Lol you got me beat on that one, i surprised myself had messed around and used 170GB ...still trying to figure that one out though:good:
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I leave the unlimited rooted phone at home. Works great runs my entire server network thanks to root
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