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Hmm.
I've opened my HTC Dream, but I haven't been able to get my hands on a Magic..
The ram on some Magics is 288M, yes? And 192M on the Dream? This is a *huge* difference, as it takes what... 70M or so, just to load the OS, the home screen, an applet or two, and of course the 20M for the graphics chip...
So, that's a big upgrade.
Thing is, I've heard many a time, that the Magic is basically just a Dream. If so, wouldn't HTC have provided pinouts for hooking up a hardware keyboard? After all, there might have been plans to make a Dream V2.
Has anyone looked at the hardware inside, to see if it is possible to take the Magic circuit board, and slap it into a Dream? To see if the pinouts are on the board?
I'd *happily* buy a Magic, swap the hardware, and use the old Dream board + Magic case for a backup phone...
So, anyone looked?
BRad Barnett said:
Hmm.
I've opened my HTC Dream, but I haven't been able to get my hands on a Magic..
The ram on some Magics is 288M, yes? And 192M on the Dream? This is a *huge* difference, as it takes what... 70M or so, just to load the OS, the home screen, an applet or two, and of course the 20M for the graphics chip...
So, that's a big upgrade.
Thing is, I've heard many a time, that the Magic is basically just a Dream. If so, wouldn't HTC have provided pinouts for hooking up a hardware keyboard? After all, there might have been plans to make a Dream V2.
Has anyone looked at the hardware inside, to see if it is possible to take the Magic circuit board, and slap it into a Dream? To see if the pinouts are on the board?
I'd *happily* buy a Magic, swap the hardware, and use the old Dream board + Magic case for a backup phone...
So, anyone looked?
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http://tinyurl.com/yj4f5gn should help
Firerat said:
http://tinyurl.com/yj4f5gn should help
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Ah. Typical schmucky response.
Please point to where, in the service manuals, there are very-high-res images of the motherboard and daughterboards, so they can be examined in detail.
Smarten up, ok?
BRad Barnett said:
Ah. Typical schmucky response.
Please point to where, in the service manuals, there are very-high-res images of the motherboard and daughterboards, so they can be examined in detail.
Smarten up, ok?
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Tip if you want some help: you might want to be nice to people who try so that others might be more motivated to. Smarten up on social skills ok?
mattv888 said:
Tip if you want some help: you might want to be nice to people who try so that others might be more motivated to. Smarten up on social skills ok?
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+ 10
Haha.
erlern said:
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Haha.
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No, -10.
There was no intent to help, what so ever.
An intent to help would be:
"Yes! I have some high res pics here!"
or
"I have a dead Magic, I'll open it and see"
A smartass "go search google for service manuals, that have nothing to do with the question.. and can't help at all" isn't an attempt to help.
BRad Barnett said:
Ah. Typical schmucky response.
Please point to where, in the service manuals, there are very-high-res images of the motherboard and daughterboards, so they can be examined in detail.
Smarten up, ok?
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you don't need 'very-high-res images' to see that what you propose is not possible
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you don't need 'very-high-res images' to see that what you propose is not possible
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Really? You can verify that there are no pads for a keyboard header, on the circuit board, via those photos? Because, I couldn't tell...
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Really? You can verify that there are no pads for a keyboard header, on the circuit board, via those photos? Because, I couldn't tell...
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you want to fit the boards from a magic into a dream case
look at the service manual, you will quickly see that they will not fit
for one the camera is in the wrong place
unless of course your going to fabricate a new case for your 'magic with a dream keyboard'
but carry on dreaming your magic
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you want to fit the boards from a magic into a dream case
look at the service manual, you will quickly see that they will not fit
for one the camera is in the wrong place
unless of course your going to fabricate a new case for your 'magic with a dream keyboard'
but carry on dreaming your magic
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I've already told him this in an identical thread in the general section. This is the third copy of the same thread.
Don't feed the troll.
goldenarmZ said:
I've already told him this in an identical thread in the general section. This is the third copy of the same thread.
Don't feed the troll.
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lol
I'll devnull the tard from now on
Firerat said:
you want to fit the boards from a magic into a dream case
look at the service manual, you will quickly see that they will not fit
for one the camera is in the wrong place
unless of course your going to fabricate a new case for your 'magic with a dream keyboard'
but carry on dreaming your magic
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Right.
So, since you did not state this before, I believe I am correct in my prior assumption that you were simply being a smartass. That is, you read my prior thread, saw the other comments that stated what you've just stated, and decided to carry the same marlarky here.
Clearly I've already stated, especially in that other thread, that I am looking for that pad/header first.
So, how are you helping? Comparatively, how are you being destructive?
Does it harm you, or others of this board, to allow myself -- and others that would like to see the same, to get together and look for a keyboard header/pads on the Magic? Certainly not!
For example, as for the camera, it's only a hole in the back of the case. A dremel will make a nice, neat one. As for the rest of the boards? Well, that's something to see. Clearly I've heard statements about the boards... repeating them is not necessary.
Heck, I haven't even stated that I'd have to use the case from the Dream OR Magic to make this work, have I? There is more than one way to skin a cat.
Of course, even though you apparently don't want to look for the pads, or investigate the hardware directly, the fact that I'm interesting in trying seems to erk you. It also seems to erk goldenarmz for some reason. Your thoughts of "Why is he even bothering with this?!" translate into "I should post as many detracting statements as possibile in these threads, to prevent it!"
After all, if you don't want to do it, and if you don't think it's possible... why, you must come to my thread, and do everything possible to prevent others from trying!
So, please.. go ahead goldenarmz and Firerat. Continue to post "you can't do that!" messages all over my threads. That's just great! I'm sure everyone will be very thankful, that you've both done everything you can to prevent my horrible abomination!
THANK GOD EVERYONE! WE STOPPED HIM FROM CREATING FRANKENSTEIN! OUR CHILDREN ARE SAFE!!!
Come on guys.. give it a rest, ok? Let people interesting in investigating directly, do so.
BRad Barnett said:
Right.
So, since you did not state this before, I believe I am correct in my prior assumption that you were simply being a smartass. That is, you read my prior thread, saw the other comments that stated what you've just stated, and decided to carry the same marlarky here.
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nope, didn't now about the other threads
a definition of an idiot:
someone who repeats the same action expecting different results
bye bye BRad
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BRad Barnett said:
Right.
So, since you did not state this before, I believe I am correct in my prior assumption that you were simply being a smartass. That is, you read my prior thread, saw the other comments that stated what you've just stated, and decided to carry the same marlarky here.
Clearly I've already stated, especially in that other thread, that I am looking for that pad/header first.
So, how are you helping? Comparatively, how are you being destructive?
Does it harm you, or others of this board, to allow myself -- and others that would like to see the same, to get together and look for a keyboard header/pads on the Magic? Certainly not!
For example, as for the camera, it's only a hole in the back of the case. A dremel will make a nice, neat one. As for the rest of the boards? Well, that's something to see. Clearly I've heard statements about the boards... repeating them is not necessary.
Heck, I haven't even stated that I'd have to use the case from the Dream OR Magic to make this work, have I? There is more than one way to skin a cat.
Of course, even though you apparently don't want to look for the pads, or investigate the hardware directly, the fact that I'm interesting in trying seems to erk you. It also seems to erk goldenarmz for some reason. Your thoughts of "Why is he even bothering with this?!" translate into "I should post as many detracting statements as possibile in these threads, to prevent it!"
After all, if you don't want to do it, and if you don't think it's possible... why, you must come to my thread, and do everything possible to prevent others from trying!
So, please.. go ahead goldenarmz and Firerat. Continue to post "you can't do that!" messages all over my threads. That's just great! I'm sure everyone will be very thankful, that you've both done everything you can to prevent my horrible abomination!
THANK GOD EVERYONE! WE STOPPED HIM FROM CREATING FRANKENSTEIN! OUR CHILDREN ARE SAFE!!!
Come on guys.. give it a rest, ok? Let people interesting in investigating directly, do so.
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an idea
buy a magic and just do it.
then show off what you did
be sure to take step by step pictures and maybe shoot a video to use in your tutorial
Riiiight.
Regardless of whether or not you knew of the other thread, your "go look at the manuals via how-to-search-Google smartass page" was clearly not meant to be polite, by any means. It was meant to be a smartassed statement... and you received an answer in the same vein.
Also, your definition of an "idiot", is actually a misquote, I believe it was initially a _joke_ about sanity. Of course, such a statement in itself is "idiotic", unless you think learning by trial and error is only an idiots game.
Or, did you consider yourself an idiot, when you were learning to ride a bike... fell off, and got back on? Ha-ha, look at the idiot, trying to ride a bike again -- but expecting to stay on!
Please. Again, let's be serious.
Back to myself... what precisely have I 'tried again', except for trying to post a new thread, to clear out the blather from an old?
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an idea
buy a magic and just do it.
then show off what you did
be sure to take step by step pictures and maybe shoot a video to use in your tutorial
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Hey! I have a better idea!
How about I post a thread to a forum somewhere... and ask if anyone out there has a Magic they can look at? Maybe someone will even have a broken Magic they can look at.. so they won't sweat so much when they open it!
Wow, what a great idea! Then I can verify if there is a header/pads for a keyboard, before I buy one and perhaps waste my money!
That's such a great idea! Maybe I should try it!!
HOLY SARCASM BATMAN!
As for the pics and such, you can be damned sure I'd document any hack of the sort, if I proceed.....
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what precisely have I 'tried again', except for trying to post a new thread, to clear out the blather from an old?
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You've asked the same question 3 times despite being told, and being shown proof that it will never, ever work.
By insisting that you want to find these "pads" where a keyboard was never intended to be fitted.. You're trying to climb the garden fence when directly behind it is a 50 foot wall of impenetrable steel - namely, the fact that your creation won't fit in the sodding case.
BRad Barnett said:
Right.
Of course, even though you apparently don't want to look for the pads, or investigate the hardware directly...
Why don't you do the work yourself? Get yourself a couple of phones on fleabay and open 'em up!!!
STOP BEING LAZY!!!
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Or, did you consider yourself an idiot, when you were learning to ride a bike... fell off, and got back on? Ha-ha, look at the idiot, trying to ride a bike again -- but expecting to stay on!
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if I truly repeated the same action then I would continue to fall off, no each time I got back on I did something different, hoping that it was enough to not fall off.
your not really all that smart are you
I like the idea, I don't believe it is practical
you don't need help with this, just buy a magic and try it
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You've asked the same question 3 times despite being told, and being shown proof that it will never, ever work.
By insisting that you want to find these "pads" where a keyboard was never intended to be fitted.. You're trying to climb the garden fence when directly behind it is a 50 foot wall of impenetrable steel - namely, the fact that your creation won't fit in the sodding case.
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Typical of you.
I've already stated that I don't have to use the same case. I've already stated that I'm also willing to modify my case.
Again, though.. you want to run up and down, screaming IT WON'T WORK! STOP IT!! STOP!! IT WON'T WORK, OH PLEASE, PLEASE, STOP TRYING!
I BEG YOU! STOP TRYING!
EVERYONE ELSE!! PLEASE!! IF YOU HAVE A MAGIC, PLEASE DON'T LOOK FOR PADS!
Are you actually serious?
so im about to do it. been wanting a tablet for some time and as nice as the xoom looks for 1/2 the price this make sense.
can a newbie root? i dont know the first thing about programming. ive searched the forums, and i see roms, and all these things i dont even know what they are. TNT programs, which sound not so newb friendly lol....and i want to know if there is a basic root that i may be able to follow. root for dummies is what im looking for.
and also, if i screw this up can i revert back to the original way this thing was?
sorta nervous to order and not use it to the fullest potential but seems like without rooting its not worth a crap.
i know probably asked 100 times, but ive searched and just cant find basic rooting 101 concepts. read the faqs - nothing so straight forward that i found.
thanks in advance. if i find the support i need here which seems likely im going to order the viewsonic shortly
First, welcome!
And then...
Start here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=865245
This was the post that helped me the most. Have you rooted and installed new ROMs on Android devices before? It's not difficult, but does require that every last instruction is read. Twice. And look at posts about people "bricking" their tablets to see what they might have done wrong, or what they had to do to fix their problems. Don't worry about rooting; I've rooted a MyTouch 3g, a TMobile Vibrant and this tablet and it was the easiest by far. I'd like to say that the stock software sucks, but I can't. I purchased this tablet because I knew I would be rooting and ROMing and only had about ten minutes in the store and ten minutes at home with the original software. It wasn't horrible, but I do know that Vegan 5.1 flies and is very stable.
READ READ READ and search your face off for your problems before posting. Many people frown on oft asked questions here. I see a lot of people writing about how easy it is to search to get your answer, but I'm not a fan of the XDA search function for many reasons. So, Google is your friend. When searching Google, be sure to state your issue clearly and concisely, and in as few words as possible. Oh, but do include "XDA" in your search, or "site:forum.xda-developers.com" if you want to only search the XDA Developers forum.
Happy modding!
(1) We don't mind newbies, although it's nice if they actually respect the hard work of the people here by pressing the shift button to capitalize where appropriate. It would also be appreciated if they don't use run-on sentences.
(2) We highly recommend against modding for people like you. Just turn it on, update what viewsonic has for you, and everything will run just fine. We recommend you play with the gtab for a while before taking the plunge.
(3) You don't need to know programming to root. This thread will give you step by step instructions on how to do the essential things of modding. These instructions are so easy even a cave man could do it.
(4) That said, again, their stock rom + update should be good enough for someone like you. I have 2 gtabs. I've modded one and kept the other one as is. Trust me, it's more than sufficient for your needs.
thank u!!! im going to review that. now thats a detailed step by step which couldnt be answered easily but somehow seems doable for a newbie thanks. brings me closer to ordering.
I somehow doubt you read everything I said.
goodintentions said:
I somehow doubt you read everything I said.
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Don't be condescending. Were you born knowing how to root and mod a G Tab? Let people ask questions, and if you don't want to answer then don't.
adampdx said:
Don't be condescending. Were you born knowing how to root and mod a G Tab? Let people ask questions, and if you don't want to answer then don't.
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I was referring to the part where he refuses to use the shift key. It's a pet peeve of mine. To me, it's a sign of respect to talk properly and write properly.
goodintentions - I was thanking adampdx but appreciate your input as well. I read his reply and his link provided and at first glance it seemed helpful. With that said, I also appreciate you letting me know the stock VS GT is pretty good and perhaps I will leave it as is when I get it. People make it out to be like this thing is so unsable out of the box, which apparently isnt the case. I just want to be able to get to the market and download a few apps I like using on my droid pro phone, thats all. Additionally I will use capitals and try watching the run on sentences. I was just excited to post and get involved.
goodintentions said:
I was referring to the part where he refuses to use the shift key. It's a pet peeve of mine. To me, it's a sign of respect to talk properly and write properly.
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I think your whole thing is condescending, including that rant you posted in the General section about the "wooters". If you wanted to be helpful you could do a write up and review about the stock ROM and make suggestions of what to do to make it better. This singling out of a group of people is rude and dangerous. You create an environment that is hostile and discourages fresh ideas. There are always kinder words to use and gentler ways to guide people.
goodintentions said:
I was referring to the part where he refuses to use the shift key. It's a pet peeve of mine. To me, it's a sign of respect to talk properly and write properly.
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Well, better to not use it at all than TO USE IT EVERYWHERE. Arrghgh stop shouting!!!
(btw, trying to defuse the situation with a very bad attempt at a joke)
roebeet said:
Well, better to not use it at all than TO USE IT EVERYWHERE. Arrghgh stop shouting!!!
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Thanks for a little comic relief.
adampdx said:
I think your whole thing is condescending, including that rant you posted in the General section about the "wooters". If you wanted to be helpful you could do a write up and review about the stock ROM and make suggestions of what to do to make it better. This singling out of a group of people is rude and dangerous. You create an environment that is hostile and discourages fresh ideas. There are always kinder words to use and gentler ways to guide people.
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Not to mention there be members who may not use English as a primary language and therefore may not be familiar with all of its intricacies. Respect begets respect. You get more when you offer more.
Well, here is my thought on why people are giving it such bad reviews.
(1) They compared it to the ipad right out of the box. Yes, the stock UI isn't the greatest thing, but it's usable. And after the update, it should work just fine.
(2) People were expecting an ipad when they bought this device. This is why I've been repeating over and over that this ain't no ipad.
(3) People have money coming out of their ears, so they want the bests and greatests. The slightest disadvantage and they will make it sound like the tablet exploded or something.
(4) Which brings me to my next point. People like to exaggerate.
I've always been a simple person. I like to work with what I have. I also hate Apple products with a passion. I only own one Apple product. I got my ipod (30 gig one) as a gift years ago. I've been thinking for a while to look for something that is light weight so I could drag it along for work and other activities. My laptop seems like it weighs a ton some time. That said, after I've done the appropriate moddings and installed the apps I wanted, the viewsonic gtab seems like a dream come true for me. It works incredibly fast. I didn't buy this thing to watch videos and listen to music. I have my tv and ipod for that. That said, I really think viewsonic is sitting on top of a goldmine with this device. I don't know why they haven't done more to publicize it.
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Not to mention there be members who may not use English as a primary language and therefore may not be familiar with all of its intricacies. Respect begets respect. You get more when you offer more.
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Oh, please, I can tell the difference between a non-engrish speaker and someone who's just lazy. I'm a non-native english speaker. In another thread, I mentioned that I was born in a house with a dirt floor and grew up with a 4 inch black and white tv. I wasn't kidding.
adampdx said:
I think your whole thing is condescending, including that rant you posted in the General section about the "wooters". If you wanted to be helpful you could do a write up and review about the stock ROM and make suggestions of what to do to make it better. This singling out of a group of people is rude and dangerous. You create an environment that is hostile and discourages fresh ideas. There are always kinder words to use and gentler ways to guide people.
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Well, I apologize if what I said offended some people. But what I stated was a fact. Because of all the exaggerated reviews of how god-aweful the stock UI and screen are, average people get the wrong idea. They feel that they have to mod the device the moment they get their hands on it.
All I'm suggesting people do is give the updated stock rom a chance. Give it a few days before they decide to take the plunge. There's really no prettier way to say it.
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Oh, please, I can tell the difference between a non-engrish speaker...
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There it is, the racist card. I was wondering when that one would come out.
adampdx said:
There it is, the racist card. I was wondering when that one would come out.
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Good job for picking that up, considering I was born and grew up in eastern Asia... nice going with the nitpick.
You don't have to be white to be racist or self-hating.
Ah, all of this being said, I do think this whole thing is funny and a giant waste of time. I've also been noticing that the forums seem sluggish, and I'm getting strange messages from the server from time to time about not being able to load forum pages. I think all of our babble is bogging down the servers. And with the impending onslaught of wooters, we should probably knock it off.
goodintentions, your making the xda forums look bad.
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You don't have to be white to be racist or self-hating.
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Wait, hang on. So, joking is racist? You mean you can't tell the difference between a joke and a racist comment? Is this, like, the twilight zone where noone has any common sense at all?
Look, I'm not asking for perfect composition to be published in academia here. but towrite somthin without regard to how it loks to the people your asking for help looks like you dont care for their eeffort s and your just passing buy. its also had to understand runon sentences and... suc
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You don't have to be white to be racist or self-hating.
Ah, all of this being said, I do think this whole thing is funny and a giant waste of time. I've also been noticing that the forums seem sluggish, and I'm getting strange messages from the server from time to time about not being able to load forum pages. I think all of our babble is bogging down the servers. And with the impending onslaught of wooters, we should probably knock it off.
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hahaha I was thinking the same thing. Tomorrow's XDA headline --- "Wooters bring down XDA".
I need to take my Woot-Off lights out soon, perhaps?
If there is anyone out there can help me root my HTC inspire 4g. I tried everything and nothing is working. I just want to get rid of these useless apps and better battery life cause right now this phone is useless. Please help
cesimoneaux
Read the sticky in General. It has vids and all the informatiomn you need.
Best thing I can tell you, before you get flamed for that post, is read. Also, you need to be more specific with your issue. If you want someone to hand hold you through the process, your probably not going to find the help you are looking for. Reading and searching are your friends. I am not being mean in anyway. People have gotten flamed in the past for a post like that. First, you didn't say if you've already searched. Second, you mention very little detail of your problem. Third, you don't mention which rooting method you are using and where you are in the process. Just on the last point alone, I think you are trying to have someone walk you through the process. In which case, you don't need to root if you won't take the time to read, read, and read again, and try the process yourself. Not trying to jump on ya, just from your post it seems like you are not even trying to help yourself first. If you have a genuine issue, please, give us more detail to make an effort to help you.
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Read the sticky in General. It has vids and all the informatiomn you need.
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cesimoneaux said:
If there is anyone out there can help me root my HTC inspire 4g. I tried everything and nothing is working. I just want to get rid of these useless apps and better battery life cause right now this phone is useless. Please help
cesimoneaux
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So... The phone is useless as it is? Why would you buy a useless phone?
Because you didnt discover it was useless until it was too late, like, after 31 days of having it?
Don't blame the phone for your inability to do what 90% of the people in these sections of XDA managed to do just fine.
Now, maybe you should go do a little reading.
Then, if, after you've made an honest attempt to figure it out using the plethora of resources at your disposal here, you still run into problems, and are willing to provide a little more insight into the nature of your specific problem, people might be a bit more willing to lend a hand.
Good luck!
Man rooting an inspire is not that hard. You just need to follow directions. Read up on the root methods available watch the videos choose your preferred method read the tutorial and watch the video AGAIN then do it. 99% of the time it will work. I used the hack kit But ive heard bubbys works great too. My inspire was rooted 20 mins after I got it. But I read and watched the videos long before it arrived. It really isnt something you should just decide to do on a whim. You should really understand the process and what each individual step does before attempting.
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So... The phone is useless as it is? Why would you buy a useless phone?
Because you didnt discover it was useless until it was too late, like, after 31 days of having it?
Don't blame the phone for your inability to do what 90% of the people in these sections of XDA managed to do just fine.
Now, maybe you should go do a little reading.
Then, if, after you've made an honest attempt to figure it out using the plethora of resources at your disposal here, you still run into problems, and are willing to provide a little more insight into the nature of your specific problem, people might be a bit more willing to lend a hand.
Good luck!
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Oh geeze, here we go, everyone here at xda is omnipitant, not everone knows every aspect of this site, if he/she doesnt know how to root why would you expect them to know where/how to search and what to read if they did, some people do deserve a break hes just frustrated.
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Man rooting an inspire is not that hard. You just need to follow directions. Read up on the root methods available watch the videos choose your preferred method read the tutorial and watch the video AGAIN then do it. 99% of the time it will work. I used the hack kit But ive heard bubbys works great too. My inspire was rooted 20 mins after I got it. But I read and watched the videos long before it arrived. It really isnt something you should just decide to do on a whim. You should really understand the process and what each individual step does before attempting.
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Hes right,
The main part of being successful with these devices is everything he said, you really shoud read,read,watch whatever it takes to be totally sure about the process. You must be very careful if its your first time, and at the same time, ive learned, you cant let it intimedate you, it will be much harder and that much easier to mess up. If you do all these things and are still not sure or dont feel right about doing it, find somone close to you that can.
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Oh geeze, here we go, everyone here at xda is omnipitant, not everone knows every aspect of this site, if he/she doesnt know how to root why would you expect them to know where/how to search and what to read if they did, some people do deserve a break hes just frustrated.
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Well, for one thing, if by "omnipitant" you mean *omnipotent*, then you probably *really* meant *omniscient*, so I understand what you meant. I think.
What I don't understand, however, is why you think that someone who doesn't know how to root shouldn't be expected to know how to search for information about rooting.
Perhaps you might better explain to me your logic?
Ok, your right. I should have been more direct.
By "omnipotent" i ment -all knowing.
My point is. People will never stop asking for help on this site, it will just never happen, nor will they ever stop being ignorant, ie. Not reading enough not following directions. I understand it gets old, but its one thing if hes new, its another if this is the 5th time hes been told. I just think you took the wrong approach at teaching him, there is such a thing as positive reinforcement, hes already frustrated, treating him like hes an idiot will get us all no where, well, most of us. We were all new at some point or another
Now, what does not seem even a tad bit logical to me is, getting offended over a damn cell phone
BAleR said:
Ok, your right. I should have been more direct.
By "omnipotent" i ment -all knowing.
My point is. People will never stop asking for help on this site, it will just never happen, nor will they ever stop being ignorant, ie. Not reading enough not following directions. I understand it gets old, but its one thing if hes new, its another if this is the 5th time hes been told. I just think you took the wrong approach at teaching him, there is such a thing as positive reinforcement, hes already frustrated, treating him like hes an idiot will get us all no where, well, most of us. We were all new at some point or another
Now, what does not seem even a tad bit logical to me is, getting offended over a damn cell phone
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Alright, now that I understand what you are saying a bit better, I agree, people won't ever stop asking for help, or being ignorant.
And as long as I have this phone and am otherwise able to, I won't ever stop helping people. . . but not if they post out of frustration, *expecting people here on XDA to be "omniscient"*, knowing exactly how to fix their problem with only the vaguest of details provided.
Posting when pissed is about as productive as blogging while drunk.
And, the op insulted my phone. NO ONE talks **** about my phone...
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Alright, now that I understand what you are saying a bit better, I agree, people won't ever stop asking for help, or being ignorant.
And as long as I have this phone and am otherwise able to, I won't ever stop helping people. . . but not if they post out of frustration, *expecting people here on XDA to be "omniscient"*, knowing exactly how to fix their problem with only the vaguest of details provided.
Posting when pissed is about as productive as blogging while drunk.
And, the op insulted my phone. NO ONE talks **** about my phone...
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Think of him as an infant, a new born. He doesnt know any better. I dont think he posted out of frustration, i think it is more of a cry for help.
but besides all that, hopefully we've all learned something today. I know I have.
For years i've thought i knew what "omnipotent" means lol! Learn somethin knew everyday.
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Alright, now that I understand what you are saying a bit better, I agree, people won't ever stop asking for help, or being ignorant.
And as long as I have this phone and am otherwise able to, I won't ever stop helping people. . . but not if they post out of frustration, *expecting people here on XDA to be "omniscient"*, knowing exactly how to fix their problem with only the vaguest of details provided.
Posting when pissed is about as productive as blogging while drunk.
And, the op insulted my phone. NO ONE talks **** about my phone...
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Scott has always been helpful to me. And I have always seen him helpful to others that have made the effort to learn and couldn't figure something out. There's a reason his thanks meter is at 52.
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Think of him as an infant, a new born. He doesnt know any better. I dont think he posted out of frustration, i think it is more of a cry for help.
but besides all that, hopefully we've all learned something today. I know I have.
For years i've thought i knew what "omnipotent" means lol! Learn somethin knew everyday.
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Sad thing is though if he searched he would have seen everyone else getting flamed for this exact same question and type of post. Then he would have known better and how to ask the question and seek help. And Scott I'm going to make a damn sticky on how to search. This they didn't know how to search and cant get past the clutter thing isn't an excuse.
coming from the droid incredible and hero before it.. the inspire is alittle more difficult to root. but if u say take 30 mins out of your day its not that bad.. just stay focused and read and go slow and you will be on your way..
Carlrobling said:
Scott has always been helpful to me. And I have always seen him helpful to others that have made the effort to learn and couldn't figure something out. There's a reason his thanks meter is at 52.
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Thanks. Likewise....
My jaw hit the floor yesterday when I visited the browser version of the site and saw that 52.
Last time I checked it was like at 16 or something.
Using the XDA app really isolates a person, I guess.
BAleR said:
Think of him as an infant, a new born. He doesnt know any better. I dont think he posted out of frustration, i think it is more of a cry for help.
but besides all that, hopefully we've all learned something today. I know I have.
For years i've thought i knew what "omnipotent" means lol! Learn somethin knew everyday.
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I get what your saying, but I still wouldn't let an infant try to root a phone.
That water damage indicator wouldn't look so good afterwards.
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I get what your saying, but I still wouldn't let an infant try to root a phone.
That water damage indicator wouldn't look so good afterwards.
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What he is saying is retarded. You did nothing wrong. noobs are expected to read. End of story. If they do not and post anyways, then they should be subject to the redicule that comes with such a blatently assinine posting. Baler is wrong to call anyone out... .. I have the feeling I would find a noobish post by him and the routing there of; If I dug through his postings. Least it would explain his stance. But alas, I care not. Scotts one of the most helpfull nice peeps here.
I wasnt saying he is a bad guy, or hes wrong, it just looked to me like he was jumping on the guy. Now you guys know him alot more than I do, I even think hes helped me with a few things, one or two of those thanks are prolly from me. but if everyone really feels this way, ill prolly stop defending noobs then, unless its worth the time.
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I wasnt saying he is a bad guy, or hes wrong, it just looked to me like he was jumping on the guy. Now you guys know him alot more than I do, I even think hes helped me with a few things, one or two of those thanks are prolly from me. but if everyone really feels this way, ill prolly stop defending noobs then, unless its worth the time.
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It probably looked like I was jumping on the guy because I was. A little. Thin skins don't do well, here, though.
There's nothing wrong with defending someone, when appropriate, I've done it I think, maybe a total of 3 or 4 times, all cases where a user was unfairly blamed for something or was made to feel like they weren't a worthwhile contributor or called a name because they weren't able to answer someone's question to their satisfaction.
All I'm saying is that XDA is less noob-centric than other forums. That's not to say noobs shouldn't come here to learn...I lost my basic noobness here (and I say basic, 'cause I don't know half the **** some people here do) ... Just that there's an expectation to fulfill some prerequisite familiarization with one's device, and to be at least a little proficient in problem-solving on one's own before posting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0jGY2N2h1U&feature=player_embedded#!
OMG OMG OMG OMG!!! Does Anyone Know If That Battery Can Be Replaced? Im Sure It Probably Can....
Feedback?
PS: I Didnt See Any Micro SD Card...
LMFAO omgomgomgomgomg
Did you look ANYWHERE ELSE besides here before asking the two stupidest questions you could possibly ask?
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Sorry, I'm just shocked at how dumb your overall post is in general. Not just the question but the OMG OMG OMG bull****... It's stupid and it makes people ignore you because you seem childish. Are you having a panic attack or something or is that how you talk in day to day conversation too?
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stoneyjonez said:
Sorry, I'm just shocked at how dumb your overall post is in general. Not just the question but the OMG OMG OMG bull****... It's stupid and it makes people ignore you because you seem childish. Are you having a panic attack or something or is that how you talk in day to day conversation too?
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wow what a jerk.
I for one was very interested in his post. What do you care if he posted omg in caps? IMO
you look like the bigger fool.
Sad to see the attacks on this forum.
Troll.
I'm not sure if it is possible to create a higher capacity battery while still keeping the same dimensions of the original battery. If it was that simple, shouldn't HTC have done this themselves?
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wow what a jerk.
I for one was very interested in his post. What do you care if he posted omg in caps? IMO
you look like the bigger fool.
Sad to see the attacks on this forum.
Troll.
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The TS begins every word he types with a capital letter, it's annoying
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The TS begins every word he types with a capital letter, it's annoying
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So what? Seriously, why does it matter? I use a lot of dots....................does it affect my content or intent?
People who feel the need to scold or correct others is a bigger problem here than any caps IMO. Been here at the One S forum for less than a week and had my fill of it. Wasn't this bad at the G2X side.
I know......I'm doing it too.
But the needless scolding, mean-ness, and bad attitudes ruin this great forum IMO.
ickster said:
So what? Seriously, why does it matter? I use a lot of dots....................does it affect my content or intent?
People who feel the need to scold or correct others is a bigger problem here than any caps IMO. Been here at the One S forum for less than a week and had my fill of it. Wasn't this bad at the G2X side.
I know......I'm doing it too.
But the needless scolding, mean-ness, and bad attitudes ruin this great forum IMO.
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Well Put, Kudos
I'm coming from the galaxy s2 forums and its a totally different environment ppl seem to be real strict with the way we type, thank god for spell check god forbid i spell something wrong lmaoo there goes my account...lol
ickster said:
So what? Seriously, why does it matter? I use a lot of dots....................does it affect my content or intent?
People who feel the need to scold or correct others is a bigger problem here than any caps IMO. Been here at the One S forum for less than a week and had my fill of it. Wasn't this bad at the G2X side.
I know......I'm doing it too.
But the needless scolding, mean-ness, and bad attitudes ruin this great forum IMO.
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You are right about the pointless scolding and correcting. I wasn't trying to offend anyone, I just found the topic annoying to read and I think I may point that out. That doesn't say I agree to attack the op about it.
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Sorry, I'm just shocked at how dumb your overall post is in general. Not just the question but the OMG OMG OMG bull****... It's stupid and it makes people ignore you because you seem childish. Are you having a panic attack or something or is that how you talk in day to day conversation too?
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By your comment, you are the child here....
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I wouldn't do such a dangerous manipulation. The One S's battery is already excellent so I would not consider changing it before a long time.
ickster said:
So what? Seriously, why does it matter? I use a lot of dots....................does it affect my content or intent?
People who feel the need to scold or correct others is a bigger problem here than any caps IMO. Been here at the One S forum for less than a week and had my fill of it. Wasn't this bad at the G2X side.
I know......I'm doing it too.
But the needless scolding, mean-ness, and bad attitudes ruin this great forum IMO.
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Why are you willingly doing it if you hate it?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0jGY2N2h1U&feature=player_embedded#!
OMG OMG OMG OMG!!! Does Anyone Know If That Battery Can Be Replaced? Im Sure It Probably Can....
Feedback?
PS: I Didnt See Any Micro SD Card...
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OK so to answer your question there is a way to change the battery say it becomes unusable, (Direct from T-Mobile tech support ) you can bring in the device to a service store and they can replacement it for you or upgrade it with an extended version that's made for it and there is a battery / case you can buy that fits over the device and doubles the life of the existing battery and protects the device at the same time.
Once I get mine in the mail this week (buy one get one free, I got two) I'll pull one apart and try to change out the sdcard to a 32gb (I guess it's gotta be cut on the left side to fit) and I'll report back with how I do.
But for the short answer, No and No with a side of lost topic abuse. Good luck...........
Orical said:
OK so to answer your question there is a way to change the battery say it becomes unusable, (Direct from T-Mobile tech support ) you can bring in the device to a service store and they can replacement it for you or upgrade it with an extended version that's made for it and there is a battery / case you can buy that fits over the device and doubles the life of the existing battery and protects the device at the same time.
Once I get mine in the mail this week (buy one get one free, I got two) I'll pull one apart and try to change out the sdcard to a 32gb (I guess it's gotta be cut on the left side to fit) and I'll report back with how I do.
But for the short answer, No and No with a side of lost topic abuse. Good luck...........
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Teardown video. Can't watch now, but from the freezeframe, doesn't look like there's an actual "sd card" you can replace.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/21/htc-one-s-teardown/
el_smurfo said:
Teardown video. Can't watch now, but from the freezeframe, doesn't look like there's an actual "sd card" you can replace.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/21/htc-one-s-teardown/
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Actually it's been done already but I'm having a hard time finding the read through on it again but it shows you how to cut the SDCard ( along the side , it has to match the one taken from it.) so that it will fit the holder it locks into, it's not like the standard slot it actually has a plate over it.
If I find the breakdown again I'll post it but it actually doesn't look that hard to do but I think it didn't matter what kind of card it had to be as long as the casing was cut correctly.
I'm just not going to let this 32 gb SDCard go to waste even if I ruin one in the process I'll try anything once. I have pretty good hands though and because I'm use to soldering boards I think it shouldn't be too bad.
(If the information I got was correct too, you never know with the Net though.)
The information about the battery is valid though a tech at T-Mobile did say there is a battery that is made that will fit the case that you can upgrade it too but I didn't ask how much.
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Actually it's been done already but I'm having a hard time finding the read through on it again but it shows you how to cut the SDCard ( along the side , it has to match the one taken from it.) so that it will fit the holder it locks into, it's not like the standard slot it actually has a plate over it.
If I find the breakdown again I'll post it but it actually doesn't look that hard to do but I think it didn't matter what kind of card it had to be as long as the casing was cut correctly.
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I'm very curious about this. I did a search last night, but couldn't find anything. Saw many interior pics but nothing w/ a card visible.
Any idea where you saw it?
The speeds from the internal storage are way faster than a typical micro sdhc, I'm not convinced that someone will find an sd card slot in there
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I don't want to offend anyone, but I'm curious about something. I noticed a couple of years ago (at least, maybe more) that some forum posts had the following added to the signature line
Sent from my iPhone
And I thought, OK, so you have an iPhone. I don't really care, but oh well. And I wondered if it was something that Apple added as a way to advertise (wouldn't surprise me) or if it was something that some iPhone users liked as way of saying "I have an iPhone" (that kind of ego type statement wouldn't have surprised me coming from some iPhone users). Next I thought that maybe they just didn't know how to turn it off (again, that wouldn't have surprised me either).
Then I noticed a lot of Android users are doing this too in recent years, so I wasn't really sure what was up. As a group, we don't tend to be the advertising type. Personally I find it kind of annoying as I'm reading a series of forum posts only to get the my phone is blah blah blah and I use blah blah blah. My first reaction is... Who cares? I can look up what you use if I really want to or ask. I was reading something I was interested in and now it is like a forced break for commercials. Maybe I'm just old, or maybe my attention span isn't the greatest, but it gets in the way of my reading forum posts enough to be mildly annoying.
What do others think about it? Anyone understand why people add this stuff? Is it that they want to trumpet they use such and such device? Are the forced to use it because of the phone or software they're using? If so, that's a phone/software company I want to avoid. Or do they just not know how to turn it off? Other reasons?
Most of the time its actually for good reason... say you have a problem with your phone and post about it, having all of that information there is a big help for people trying to help out... if you don't have all the info (phone, rom, kernel, mods) it makes it harder to help out and clutters threads because the "helpers" have to ask what rom/kernel/mods they are using... if its in their sig already, much easier to debug and figure out what's going wrong or if its just a bug with a certain rom/kernel/mod... make sense?
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Most of the time its actually for good reason... say you have a problem with your phone and post about it, having all of that information there is a big help for people trying to help out... if you don't have all the info (phone, rom, kernel, mods) it makes it harder to help out and clutters threads because the "helpers" have to ask what rom/kernel/mods they are using... if its in their sig already, much easier to debug and figure out what's going wrong or if its just a bug with a certain rom/kernel/mod... make sense?
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That does make sense. Thanks.