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[Q] Android noob, Generic device, A few questions?

First let me introduce myself. The name is Darcy and I have been casually using linux and other *nix OS for about a decade. I am in school working on a programing degree ATM, and am a pretty quick study. Anyways, I without much research bought my wife a generic 7" tablet running android 1.6. I know what processor it has and Im hoping that leads me to a place to start. Ok so the device is a "Kasser Net'sGo" we didnt realize that its just a china pad with another companys name on it when we ordered it. So most of the apps dont run correctly, and in general the device sucks(on a software level the HW is fine although generic).
Anyways it apears that i can get into recovery mode to flash if i had no other choices. But since there are no official roms im hoping to find a build thats based on the same CPU or similar hardware to find a starting point. Its running the Marvell Aspen 800mhz chip and standard ddr2. Sadly thats all we have been able to find out about this device.
I have compiled custom builds for linux before, and i have now purchased a Gtab so i have a less garbage device to test some things on(i have allready flashed 2 different roms and fooled with a bunch of the settings). But we would realy like to do something with this other tablet. So if anyone can point me in the direction of some info on how to do android builds or a repository of chipset drivers and such that might help me that would be greatly appreciated.

[Q] Generic Chinese Clone Devices

Ok, so I'm pretty new to this whole Android thing, but I'm not daft and know a think or two about computers and software, so I'm not a complete 'noob'...
However, to spare me the drama of trawling through thousands of pages, I have a few quick concise questions, and would appreciate concise answers.
So I bought a generic handset, branded as an Onyx Dragon though AnTuTu benchmark app tells me its a Yusu... details and specs from Chinavision.com (search Onyx Dragon).
I initially bought it because I needed a new phone (been on a Moto V3 Razr for about 6 years!) so got this cos it was cheap and looked good. Runs Froyo on what I have found to be pretty **** hardware (MT6516, advertised as 416MHz but shown to be around 207MHz, but not sure if this is main CPU or radio core...) with not a lot of RAM. I installed an 8Gb SD card to save the apps and keep as much free internal space as possible, in case the OS supports disc memory (?). The wireless is good and screen works well, but the GPS, navigation and camera are rubbish, but they are not why I bought it; I have a decent camera and I can read a map. Its definitely 'entry level' so I'm not too bothered if I brick it.
Since I got it, and seeing the many cheap 'clones' out there, I'm keen to get into them a bit more and start developing. I already rooted it with z4root, BusyBox and Superuser all installed fine. ROM Manager is running but because I don't know the actual brand I'm not yet running ClockWorkMod (doesn't show up in the list). I'm keen to install Gingerbread or maybe even CyanogenMod 7, but cannot flash the ROM without CWM. Can anyone tell me what phone 'model' I should use for this particular handset?
I can't overclock the chipset, but have been looking at other clones to play with, such as htc Incredible G11i Pro clone from etotalk.com and 'CyberStar' 3G handset with MT6573 650MHz chipset (also from Chinavision).
Does anyone have any knowledge/experience with these clones? They look great and if they work as well as the budget model I have now then there is certainly potential. Sure, they may not be as good as a genuine Galaxy or Nexus, but then the price reflects that. However, as a cheap development platform you can't really go wrong! I'd like to see faster processors and more hardware mod ability such as clocking, just to see what is possible. Anyone tried ICS on one of these? I read elsewhere that if Froyo runs ok on a cheap device then GB should be better. My friend has GB 2.3.3 on a genuine $500 Galaxy S2 and I'd love to show him up with a rooted and clocked clone running ICS for a fraction of the price!!
Well, thats not as concise as I would like, but it covers pretty much everything. One last thing though, I cannot install ES File Explorer 1.6.1, it will download from Market and attempt to install but then fail. The latest version I have is the pre-installed 1.4.2.2. I've tried everything I can think of; downloading on my Mac and copying via USB to install from Astro making sure ES is not running, failed. Tried uninstalling ES with ROM Toolbox having root access and disabled AVG, failed. Tried to launch new version from package options, failed. I have installed ES Task Manager v1.2 but cannot use all the features as it says File Explorer needs to be updated, and needless to say updating it from the prompts failed as well... Any ideas? I'm thinking a flash to GB should include the latest version (or better alternative).
Thanks all in advance!

I don't think it's possible to run ICS on such a low spec'd device. This onyx dragon runs on a 416Mhz ARM9 processor with a 200 Mhz ARM7 GPU. Even the G1 that uses a 528Mhz ARM11 CPU can't run ICS well. I would suggest that you give up on theses crappy chineses devices. If you don't have money you can find a LG Optimus One for 100 bucks on ebay and it is A LOT better than any of these chinese crap phones
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For CWM, take a look at this site http://www.koushikdutta.com/2010/02/clockwork-recovery-image.html and the quote below
Don't see your phone? Email me if you want to help me get it working!
And of course, all the source can be found on Github.
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Please use the Q&A Forum for questions Thanks
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Hey all, thanks for the feedback. Basically, sure I don't want to spend a lot being a student, I don't have a lot, but I'm keen to get more out of what I can afford, hence the Chinese crap (yes it is crap but if it does what you need...) : ) just a shame I can't clock mine! Does anyone know if ANY MediaTec chips can be?
Sure, I think running ICS is a bit optimistic, but I'd still like to give GB or C-Mod a go, providing I can get CWM installed. I'd like to compile myself and even think about refining my own version, perhaps slimming down a newer version to run on low performance hardware. What's this about a special cable needed with a 3.5mm jack?
And am I right in thinking Honeycomb was only for tablets, not phones...?

droidscope said:
Hey all, thanks for the feedback. Basically, sure I don't want to spend a lot being a student, I don't have a lot, but I'm keen to get more out of what I can afford, hence the Chinese crap (yes it is crap but if it does what you need...) : ) just a shame I can't clock mine! Does anyone know if ANY MediaTec chips can be?
Sure, I think running ICS is a bit optimistic, but I'd still like to give GB or C-Mod a go, providing I can get CWM installed. I'd like to compile myself and even think about refining my own version, perhaps slimming down a newer version to run on low performance hardware. What's this about a special cable needed with a 3.5mm jack?
And am I right in thinking Honeycomb was only for tablets, not phones...?
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Yes you are right about honeycomb. As for the device. Without kernel source which will never be released due to copyright issues you may have a bit of trouble Modding it. CM only supports authentic devices and not clones as the hardware specs as you learned are faked and never true.

droidscope said:
Hey all, thanks for the feedback. Basically, sure I don't want to spend a lot being a student, I don't have a lot, but I'm keen to get more out of what I can afford, hence the Chinese crap (yes it is crap but if it does what you need...) : ) just a shame I can't clock mine! Does anyone know if ANY MediaTec chips can be?
Sure, I think running ICS is a bit optimistic, but I'd still like to give GB or C-Mod a go, providing I can get CWM installed. I'd like to compile myself and even think about refining my own version, perhaps slimming down a newer version to run on low performance hardware. What's this about a special cable needed with a 3.5mm jack?
And am I right in thinking Honeycomb was only for tablets, not phones...?
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Hi droidscope,
Not all the Chinese phones are crap there are a few very capable phones now entering the market and they are catching up the bigboys rapidly.
For more info & reviews on the latest Chinese phones check over here http://www.gizchina.com/category/phones/ Try to stick with the branded chinese phones such as Zopo, ZTE, Newman etc because there is at least some support where as the direct copy/clones have no support at all. If buying try to get the phone pre rooted because some of the Chinese phone are getting more difficult to root. I would look here http://www.etotalk.com/ if buying and select the MOD ROM $4.99 for most phones then the phone will come pre rooted with working playstore language etc. They do not 1 to 1 copys although some of the phones have more than a passing look of some of the more famous brands. I have used them a few times and they have not let me down be sure to email them first to ask about stock levels though.

Allwinner A10 7 inch question - Internal Storage

I recently bought a 7" tablet from a great chinese site with bulk...here is the device:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCvef9IYX0o
(actually it's the closest thing to it but I have the actual link here)
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/600394/210366870-551855034/7-Android-4-0-5-point-Capacitive-Tablet-PC-1GHz-512MB-4GB-800x480-WIFI-G-Sensor.html
- only difference is mine is 2 gig and comes with ICS 4.03
Getting to the point...It comes pre-rooted and with some nice features for a 7 inch...but I messed around and installed busybox to "xbin" rather than "bin" as instructed...as those of you have have done this know: factory reset.
Now everything comes back up fine but one annoying little problem occurs...it won't let me install anything due to internal memory storage being full!
This is driving me up the wall as no site seems to cover this properly! Any know how techs wanna help this noob figure this out???
Also, is there a GOOD allwinner a10 link you guys have for people like me who love to tinker with not so well known android tablets from China? LOL! Love this place btw...been loyal for years to your forums, even if my name doesn't show it!

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Bigbass12 said:
Also, is there a GOOD allwinner a10 link you guys have for people like me who love to tinker with not so well known android tablets from China? LOL! Love this place btw...been loyal for years to your forums, even if my name doesn't show it!
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slatedroid is the best bet for you:good:

[Completed] Where to locate firmware for Tab PC?

hi guys
i have recently recieved a old Tablet PC as new toy
Model number UM-A102, Build company unknown...
and these are the spec that was written on the little menu that came in the box
CPU processor speed 1.2GHZ
Memory 4GB-32GB
RAM 512MB-1GB
Tf card 128M-16G
it currently running Android 4.1.2
my question is
dose anyone know where i could find a newer firmware that might work with this unit?
have spent hours online digging but no luck so far
if anyone could point me at an right direction would be very very nice :fingers-crossed:
thanks in advence~

Icarus1314 said:
hi guys
i have recently recieved a old Tablet PC as new toy
Model number UM-A102, Build company unknown...
and these are the spec that was written on the little menu that came in the box
CPU processor speed 1.2GHZ
Memory 4GB-32GB
RAM 512MB-1GB
Tf card 128M-16G
it currently running Android 4.1.2
my question is
dose anyone know where i could find a newer firmware that might work with this unit?
have spent hours online digging but no luck so far
if anyone could point me at an right direction would be very very nice :fingers-crossed:
thanks in advence~
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Here, found your device :-
http://www.youmi88.com/en/pic_view.asp?id=312
But sadly, you can't do much with it.Since it's a chinese device... There's no support available for it.

Upgrading an Allwinner Android 4.4.2 to a better/Newer OS

Hi,
This is a plea for help from anyone out there who knows something about the Allwinner 32GB Tablet. I bought one a few years back when 4.4.2 was all the rage, but since then, have pretty much ignored it.
I now find that I have a use for it so I was wondering if it is possible to upgrade the OS on my machine, just to make it a little better at absorbing Apps and making them work - so far, I have not had much luck
in trying to download apps from the Shop. I have a copy of Android Magazine, issue No 45, which showed me how to do the upgrade but unfortunately, nothing it refers to is there any longer, or at least in the form it is shown in the magazine. However, I do see the SDK website, but on it, nothing at all about the Allwinner Android Kitkat or the model number BS1078. The Firmware version is 4.5, and the kernel is 3.3.0, and it has a
Quadcore - A31 Series Processor Type (most of this is double dutch to me, but it may mean something to someone).
Regards to any and all,
Philip.