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I want to return to stock on my tmobile branded HTC sensation 4G. I have flashed the radio, eng s off, and CSL recovery.
I am going to give them a shot at fixing my reception issues before I destroy the phone and buy something else.
Did you have reception problems before flashing your radio or after? I think you should be fine with having a rom since HTC released their bootloader if its a big deal and your really worried just flash a stock rom on that bad boy and call it a day. Just my 2 cents new to the site so hopefully a vet will chime in here for help
Though I've never returned to stock on my phone, you just need to download one of the TMOUS RUUs in this thread:
[ROM][11 May] Shipped Pyramid ROM Collection
There are two listed for TMOUS (there was only one when last I checked the thread), but it supposedly doesn't matter which one you pick according to one of the posts later on in the thread.
They're big old files, but just run the .EXE and it ought to walk you through every necessary step to proceed properly.
Good luck, and let us know how it goes!
Thank you very much for the great responses.
Yes I had reception problems on all 3 sensation 4g's I've had my hands on. It's terrible. Side by side, on the same tower, it gets far lower reception than my old Motorola Cliq (piece of slow crap.)
It's ridiculously low and drops calls. It's so unreliable at my house that I have to use WiFi calling and take a drop if I get more than 30' from my extremely good wireless router. meh. crap.
To the other gentleman, than you very much. I figured it included the radio, but I was unsure about the bootloader/recovery. I will start there and then figure out if there is anything else I need to fix before I send it in. I don't want any more BS from them. I'm sure they are just going to send it back and say "nothing is wrong".
They have said that it is comparable to reception on their other models. If this is the case, this will be the VERY last HTC phone I ever own, and our company has just gotten to the point that I can invest in things such as this for business. If we only get 2 at a time, every 6 months or so, That is $10,000 in lost business in the next ten years, provided they are only $500 phones.
chisleu said:
Thank you very much for the great responses.
Yes I had reception problems on all 3 sensation 4g's I've had my hands on. It's terrible. Side by side, on the same tower, it gets far lower reception than my old Motorola Cliq (piece of slow crap.)
It's ridiculously low and drops calls. It's so unreliable at my house that I have to use WiFi calling and take a drop if I get more than 30' from my extremely good wireless router. meh. crap.
To the other gentleman, than you very much. I figured it included the radio, but I was unsure about the bootloader/recovery. I will start there and then figure out if there is anything else I need to fix before I send it in. I don't want any more BS from them. I'm sure they are just going to send it back and say "nothing is wrong".
They have said that it is comparable to reception on their other models. If this is the case, this will be the VERY last HTC phone I ever own, and our company has just gotten to the point that I can invest in things such as this for business. If we only get 2 at a time, every 6 months or so, That is $10,000 in lost business in the next ten years, provided they are only $500 phones.
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If I may be so bold as to make a suggestion and ask a few questions....
1. Have you tried reverting to stock and see if you still have the same problems with reception?
2. Are you aware that the Sensation suffers from the grip of death?
3. Have you noticed performance with reception after flashing a new ROM in comparison to stock?
I think I may have some insight to the real problem but need this info first.
mystikal87 said:
If I may be so bold as to make a suggestion and ask a few questions....
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Best 3 Stooges voice: "Sauwtainly"
mystikal87 said:
1. Have you tried reverting to stock and see if you still have the same problems with reception?
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Yes, They (3 different phones) had this problem from day 1. Purchased from different places, at different times.
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2. Are you aware that the Sensation suffers from the grip of death?
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Yes, but this isn't to what I refer. Holding the phone in a weird way to make the radios D/C isn't my problem so much as the design that allows this to happen in the first place is my problem. If I set the phone down, I get more bars than if I hold it normally. If this is the difference between 2-3 and 1-2, I can get dropped calls. My wifi range (max performance on) is 1/10th of my tablet and 1/20th of my laptop.
Even without touching the phone, just setting it on a wood counter top, it has less reception than my Motorola Cliq or Mytouch 4g, even when on the same tower. The cliq's reception does not change if I pick it up.
It's a bad design. If it is what HTC considers acceptable, then their phones aren't acceptable to me. It's cool. I'm not really that pissed about it. I just won't buy another. There are options.
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3. Have you noticed performance with reception after flashing a new ROM in comparison to stock?
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No, I've found no increase in reception with any change I've made. I've flashed 5 different radios other than stock with no changes in this department.
I have heard people have speed changes, but I was not tracking that so I can't really respond to that.
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I think I may have some insight to the real problem but need this info first.
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Hope you have some help.
I've already tried a new back. It did nothing. There simply aren't enough towers in my area (all edge towers anyway) to support a phone with such poor reception. My Cliq had no issues with dropped calls in many of the areas I drive through, but this sensation just can't make it down my parents road without dropping.
The reason I ask is that I think that the Radio-Interface-Layer (RIL) files must be screwing with your radio. The RILs are like drivers for your radio. Different radios work with different RILs depending on your location. Long-in-short-version, Since the Sensation is fairly new, we are still exploring what works best and therefore your mileage may vary.
You may want to check this thread
And check out your RIL version. To check to see what RIL you have run getprop "gsm.version.ril-impl" in Terminal Emulator or adb shell and it will print out the RIL version.
T-Mo users should utilize HTC-RIL 2.2.0159HMQ if not running 2.3.4 ROMS
2.3.4 ROMS require HTC-RIL 2.2.0169HMQ. The matching radio versions are included in the thread posted above.
Hope this helps.
If that fails, tonight, TMOUS released an OTA update. See if you can get it through Settings-> About Phone -> HTC Software updates.
The changes for the T-Mo update can be found here
Hope this helps!
EDIT : I am assuming that you have a T-Mobile Sensation 4G and not an unbranded HTC Sensation and that you current location is in fact Myrtle Beach, SC. But then again, I hate assumptions and I really should have asked >.< **having a simpson 'doh' moment here**
Change your cid to all ones and flash the stock ruu.exe and send it back to tmobile.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA Premium App
charlieb620 said:
Change your cid to all ones and flash the stock ruu.exe and send it back to tmobile.
Sent from my HTC Sensation Z710e using XDA Premium App
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I'm sending it to HTC, not tmobile.
I will play with the MILs right now (installing the tmo one)
I'm on stock RUU now, but it did not replace the PVT S-OFF and recovery crashes and requires a battery pull to reboot. It goes to a icon of a phone with a red triangle thingie on it.
EDIT: MIL's match.
EDIT: Texts from 10076200000 is tmobile related. WTF it does is WTF.
chisleu said:
I'm sending it to HTC, not tmobile.
I will play with the MILs right now (installing the tmo one)
I'm on stock RUU now, but it did not replace the PVT S-OFF and recovery crashes and requires a battery pull to reboot. It goes to a icon of a phone with a red triangle thingie on it.
EDIT: MIL's match.
EDIT: Texts from 10076200000 is tmobile related. WTF it does is WTF.
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Could be trying to push the OTA update. Have you tried applying the OTA update?
iNFORMATION
I have personally reset my phone a couple of times using the tmo ruu and know that it sets your phone back to absolute stock, with no root and only being s-off. What this means is, if you wish to reroot then you are going to have to go back through the rooting process.
As far as the symbol that you are seeing when you try to do an ota update? The reason that you are seeing the phone with a red triangle is because your phone is being recognized as being rooted and once rooted htc will not allow an ota to your phone. You have to trick HTC into thinking that the phone is not rooted in order to get the ota, there is a thread in the forums for this. I do not remember which thread it is, however, I know that it works as I did it for all four of the HTC sensations that I own.
Hello all.
I'm having some major problems with my Desire S - stock firmare v1.47, T-Mobile - and would be very thankful for any support and advice provided
I've had the phone since late August, and just over a month of having it, the phone completely died. T-Mobile replaced the mainboard, and returned it. Since receiving the repaired handset, text messages are delayed when coming through - sometimes upto an hour. Sent it off to T-Mobile again, and this time they've replaced the antenna. The same thing is happening.
While it was away the second time, I did some research and found lots of people claiming it's an issue with the 1.47 update on the Desire S.
The main reason for this thread is just to ask what my best options are from here. I'm ok S-OFFing and flashing another ROM, or downgrading if this is possible and will definitely resolve this issue; but as I'm a certified noob, I was wondering what advice you guys may have for me
Thanks,
DJM.
can't you just flash the 1.28 RUU?
Hi, thanks for the reply.
I used a T-Mobile 1.30 RUU, and S-OFF'd with revolutionary.
I *think* I might have cracked it - touch wood.
I'm amazed at android releasing updates which impede such basic functions though
great, hope you get it sorted
Thanks man
I'm getting texts through as they should at the moment, so fingers crossed it will stay that way.
I recommend that anyone with a Desire S, especially on T-Mobile UK, resists the urge to upload to 1.47
Just sent my HTC Sensation off for repair under warranty due to this fault :
Running OpenSensation nightly 20120810 and TamCore 3.0.40 without any issues and updated the nightly every 2-3 days with no issues. had the phone 12 months and had it s-OFF and unlocked about 4 hours after buying it. At that time running CM7 as that's all there was, updated to various ROMs until I settled on OpenSensensation (tried CM9 a couple of times for a few days but prefer OpenSensation). All ROMs installed fine over the past 12 months
Installed Kingdoms and Lords off Google play (huge game 200MB data download via wireless), after first game phone froze and reset. So I reduced the overclock, game running fine. Had another game later on in night playing for about 15 minutes. Phone froze again, switched itself off and didn't come back on again !!!!
Tried charging it thinking battery was flat, no charge. Took battery out as it was an Anker 1900mah just in case it had blown. Put original HTC battery back in, no charge light, nothing. Took battery out and left it out 2-3 hours as suggested on 'net as it 'might' help
No charge, tried another USB lead plugged into desktop. Still no charge .... oh crap
Took to T-Mobile shop I got phone and explained situation, forgetting to mention it was running custom ROM, they tried. Still no charge, no reaction in shop. Zero, zip
They sent it off for inspection/repair yesterday under warranty and said it should take 2-4 weeks
It had been running custom firmware since the day I got it on contract and has never caused me any grief, apart from some roms running better than others while I made a choice which ROM to stick with
Question I'm asking is can HTC still test the phone even though its not taking a charge or I assume not powering and just froze and died, assuming the motherboard is fine does anybody know if they use test points that bypass the USB socket to power it up
And how can just playing a legitimate game downloaded off Google Play freeze the phone and shut it down never to power up again
I'm guessing the possibilities of a faulty USB charge socket, faulty power switch or fried CPU/GPU/motherboard considering it just froze and died
I used it as a phone but did play games quite a lot during the day when I had a few minutes while not working, and had it overclocked to around 1625-1728 which it ran stable at without overheating
If they send it back refusing to touch it due to finding custom firmware on it I'm looking at the Samsung galaxy SIII over the HTC Nexus One simply because the Samsung has a removal battery and additional microsd card slot where for some reason I assume is to make rooting more awkward the HTC has a hardwired battery and NO extra sim card slot. I was looking to replace it when my contract expired in February but if they refuse to fix it citing custom firmware (even though it has been working perfectly for 12 months running various custom firmware) I have no real choice but to buy out my contract and get a new contract. Bummer
Hmmmm,
Reading a few postings it appears there is a possibility that the motherboard is fried somehow, or a 'hard brick' through a bad ROM install ... I wasn't updating and firmware, not updating any ROMs
Just playing a game downloaded and installed off Google Play, but if it means the motherboard is fried then at least it means HTC will have to replace it as 'faulty' so saving me the upfront cost of buying out my contract thas has 6 months to run
Actually if you overclock the device or flash a kernel htc doesn't have to replace anything.. by "playing a game downloaded from google play" you mean "playing a game downloaded from google play on a device controlled by custom drivers which clearly make your device out of warranty". So I'm not sure.. altough it's possible that it's not the fault of the kernel but the mainboard had some issues. They are able to test the charging port and the main board seperately. Let us know abouth the end.
It would interesting to see HTC's response either way so I'll report back once they have a look at the phone
As I don't have a loan phone at present so have no phone until they get one back from customers having their phone repaired, I have to use the 'net to check on the status of the repair via the T-Mobile website
I got my phone back yesterday with a new motherboard, under warranty
Now seriously struggling to get it to S-OFF as its running HBoot 1.27 as teh guys in the shop also said its had "new firmware upgraded for you", or to prevent me from getting S-OFF
Tried the all in one kit, tried the 'official' unlocker method from HTC. Keep getting the same error about token mismatch when trying to unlock the bootloader
Reading postings from here and there it's suggested that as the motherboard has been changed and a new IMEI, the IMEI and hardware serial numbers now don't match so causing a mismatch between number so the unlock obviously fails
Looking at trying the JB_Bear flash wire trick when I have more time to see if that work with replacement motherboards, so any suggestions as I'm stuffed and want S-OFF as well as full root again. Unlocked it when it was running HBOOT 1.18 was a doddle but now its a pain and T-Mobile branding is pants so want to be able to have my phone how I want it without all the crappy restrictions
Unless somebody can S-OFF and root for me in the North-West Lancs area without sending the phone away, I'll have to do a bit more digging to see what I come up with
thescrapyard said:
I got my phone back yesterday with a new motherboard, under warranty
Now seriously struggling to get it to S-OFF as its running HBoot 1.27 as teh guys in the shop also said its had "new firmware upgraded for you", or to prevent me from getting S-OFF
Tried the all in one kit, tried the 'official' unlocker method from HTC. Keep getting the same error about token mismatch when trying to unlock the bootloader
Reading postings from here and there it's suggested that as the motherboard has been changed and a new IMEI, the IMEI and hardware serial numbers now don't match so causing a mismatch between number so the unlock obviously fails
Looking at trying the JB_Bear flash wire trick when I have more time to see if that work with replacement motherboards, so any suggestions as I'm stuffed and want S-OFF as well as full root again. Unlocked it when it was running HBOOT 1.18 was a doddle but now its a pain and T-Mobile branding is pants so want to be able to have my phone how I want it without all the crappy restrictions
Unless somebody can S-OFF and root for me in the North-West Lancs area without sending the phone away, I'll have to do a bit more digging to see what I come up with
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for replaced mother boards ..there is a different version of jb ..check my soff guide ..link in my signature
Will let you know how it goes, thanks
Managed to get S-OFF using your method after a few tries did nothing so started making me nervous I was about to fry my new replacement motherboard, eventually it beeped and did the S-OFF by following yours steps to the letter
Problem is now, I want to remove the ***LOCKED*** but every recovery.img I try fails with a token error, which reading about it is down to teh bootloader apparently still locked
Also changed the HBOOT to your JB_HBOOT with no difference, still S-OFF but ***LOCKED***, so can't get the next step to get a fully rooted fully unlocked system so I can get back to where I was before the original motherboard died
I'm now looking at installing CM10 JellyBean 4.1 by KANG, I used to run OpenSensation CM9 quite happily and nightlies with zero issues installed a few ROMs over the past 12 months with a couple of minor issues I solved myself with reboot loops and ROMs getting confused and having to wipe the entire phone, plus when I wiped the core by accident during yet another ROM install .... that was fun to solve. Took a couple of days of reading about that one
Anyway, any suggestion as to how to get full unlocked or at least so I can install 4EXT recovery and SuperUser to get a bit further on the custom ROM route and get a phone that's what it should be instead of crippled by T-Mobile UK
Thanks for your help to get where I am so far
thescrapyard said:
Managed to get S-OFF using your method after a few tries did nothing so started making me nervous I was about to fry my new replacement motherboard, eventually it beeped and did the S-OFF by following yours steps to the letter
Problem is now, I want to remove the ***LOCKED*** but every recovery.img I try fails with a token error, which reading about it is down to teh bootloader apparently still locked
Also changed the HBOOT to your JB_HBOOT with no difference, still S-OFF but ***LOCKED***, so can't get the next step to get a fully rooted fully unlocked system so I can get back to where I was before the original motherboard died
I'm now looking at installing CM10 JellyBean 4.1 by KANG, I used to run OpenSensation CM9 quite happily and nightlies with zero issues installed a few ROMs over the past 12 months with a couple of minor issues I solved myself with reboot loops and ROMs getting confused and having to wipe the entire phone, plus when I wiped the core by accident during yet another ROM install .... that was fun to solve. Took a couple of days of reading about that one
Anyway, any suggestion as to how to get full unlocked or at least so I can install 4EXT recovery and SuperUser to get a bit further on the custom ROM route and get a phone that's what it should be instead of crippled by T-Mobile UK
Thanks for your help to get where I am so far
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for flashing eng-hboot aka changing from LOCKED to Juopunutbear
check the troubleshoot point #3 solution in my soff guide ..its explained there
and for thanks ..there is a button to say that
All sorted, now running the latest nightly of Kanga JellyBean 4.1 and full rooted and back to how it was before the motherboard dies, apart from running Android 4.1
Also feels much smoother and much faster, even though its only running the default slight overclock that Kanga sets as teh default, so might leave it at that as it feels faster than previous when running OpenSensation 4.03
Great stuff
So what is the difference between s-off and root
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powerwill said:
So what is the difference between s-off and root
Sent from HTC desire S Android 4.0.4
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There is no difference between root and s-off.. Basically if you want S-OFF you need to root your phone.
I Guess you know already what S-OFF and Root means.
Thanks yeah I do know I think I'm new to all this and I want to learn as much as I can before I start messing around with my phone I've already upgraded it which I really regret
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flashed with s-on
I am very new to Android, having been converted from iOS. I had extensive experience with jailbreaking and all that.. flashing Windows Mobile with my HTC TyTn as well.
After having my One for almost 3 months I decided to root it and explore other ROMs. Rooting wasn't an issue and I flashed MaxiumusHD 14 which was replaced within 2 weeks with version 20. Everything went well and I've got battery life that certainly exceeds, by a long shot, versus stock battery consumption rate. (Juice Defender and Profile Scheduler definitely help there too). Original stock ROM consumed a lot of power with the HTCCheckIn service. Noticed that here in Brazil I believe my battery life is worse than when I purchased the phone in Canada, I believe it's due to poor service coverage areas (weak data signals, in particular).
As I learn more, I realize that I don't believe that any of the steps I performed to root and install Clockwork involved making S-OFF active. My bootloader shows S-ON. ROM works fine and I didn't get any errors in flashing. How is that possible?
Am I missing something obvious here?
Should I do moonshine S-OFF and flash again?
I've frozen the updater using Titanium Backup (purchased that, it's great) so that I don't keep getting pestered to update to Maximus 21. I just flashed 20! (and I see no issues and nothing in the change log seems to be a huge selling point).
Thanks for the assistance with this newbie.
Matt
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I am very new to Android, having been converted from iOS. I had extensive experience with jailbreaking and all that.. flashing Windows Mobile with my HTC TyTn as well.
After having my One for almost 3 months I decided to root it and explore other ROMs. Rooting wasn't an issue and I flashed MaxiumusHD 14 which was replaced within 2 weeks with version 20. Everything went well and I've got battery life that certainly exceeds, by a long shot, versus stock battery consumption rate. (Juice Defender and Profile Scheduler definitely help there too). Original stock ROM consumed a lot of power with the HTCCheckIn service. Noticed that here in Brazil I believe my battery life is worse than when I purchased the phone in Canada, I believe it's due to poor service coverage areas (weak data signals, in particular).
As I learn more, I realize that I don't believe that any of the steps I performed to root and install Clockwork involved making S-OFF active. My bootloader shows S-ON. ROM works fine and I didn't get any errors in flashing. How is that possible?
Am I missing something obvious here?
Should I do moonshine S-OFF and flash again?
I've frozen the updater using Titanium Backup (purchased that, it's great) so that I don't keep getting pestered to update to Maximus 21. I just flashed 20! (and I see no issues and nothing in the change log seems to be a huge selling point).
Thanks for the assistance with this newbie.
Matt
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To receive S-OFF it requires a another procedure. For the HTC one i read somewhere that S-OFF is still not possible exept for the Verizon one..
As the title says really. How many of you still have the Sensation? I've had mine 4 years this June. Its still running ok, but seems very slow now. Also extramly limitied with the 1GB of internal memory compared to other phones now.
I think its time to say goodbye and maybe use it in my car for GPS.
Anyone feel the same? What phones have you thought about going to?
I unfortunately had to get the xperia m2 add the audio jack was broken and the mobile days antenna was a bit screwed. Still prefer the sensation over the m2 though. Still use the sensation sometimes though
Still using my Senny, but using any other ROM than KK compiled by myself is really annoying.
Anyway, this phone is still quite good for normal using (I'm not playing games, only internet, calling and sms).
Still going, anker battery showing its age now. Using cm11 by ivanich. Cm12 too slow for me.
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i'm using it with vipers rom
Just got a Sensation XE in preserved condition, save for a drop when the USB was connected, so uh...Hi!
Had my first sensation xe in 2012 and regretted every moment when i sold it back in 2013. In 2014 i tried to find another sensation as a 2nd phone but sadly its pretty scarce in my country. A friend of mine offered to sell his xe for a sweet price and i grabbed it! i still love the xe, pretty good for music, online tv and the usual call & text
Had mine for around 2years before the capacitive buttons became unresponsive..nice phone though.
I've had mine for 3 years now and it's still able to handle the light tasks I need it to handle. If I were to upgrade soon I think I'd wait to see what plans Google has with the new Nexus.
Been using it for the past 3 years. I update once every 6 months to the latest happening ROM. Currently I'm on CM12 (Ivanich) with an 8G SD-EXT on a 32G Samsung Pro card. No more 'insufficient storage' problems.
While not as snappy as the modern phones due to older processor and low ram, it performs well without any major hassles for the kinds of apps I use (mail. im, maps, browsing etc.). I had to replace the original batteries with Anker though.
I still actually have this phone. Unfortunately, I had to switch to another phone due screen problems, but I fixed it and I keep it as 2nd phone in case of need...and I reverted it to Gingerbread, it was a fantastic release in my opinion
I am still using my sensation XE, with stock ROM.
It is still working also I did a root, S-OFF, 4EXT.
Tried: CM-9,CM-11,CM-12, SlimKat, Revolution-HD, Carbon-KK.
I like all of these ROMs but they "eat" my battery very fast like about 15hrs .. . which is not suitable for me plus the fact that using the Stock ROM I had like battery energy
for 24hrs-to 48hrs MAX (depends on the load of using it).
The problem could be just in my battery, can't tell for sure but with my stock it lives longer without charging.
So far I am locked with stock ROM.
im still using Sensation 4g with SLIM KAT rom.Low app storage is the problem
Still using it now, runing CM12 by Ivanich. I use it well under my optimization. But if CM13 stops its update for G14, I think it's time to change a new phone.
Selling mine
Sadly, I just decided to put our two Sensations up for sale on SWAPPA. :crying: I learned a lot about Android phones by rooting & flashing many ROMs on mine.
Great phone, totally reliable and looks awesome too. But, it's being overtaken by newer tech.
Can't say I'm real thrilled with the replacement phones we got from TMO (Alcaltel Pop Astro) but at least they do LTE and VoLTE on TMO's full spectrum.
I just sold my oneplus one, back on the senny for a week, waiting for my replacement (g4 ? redmi note 2 ?)
what is the best rom ? cm12.1 is a little slow, viper s too....
I was forced back to this phone just yesterday actually, glad i kept it. I botched a flash on the LG G3 and hard bricked it (like totally, nothing on screen, buttons don't do anything board diag shows failure, still shows up as LG in the device manager so the qualcomm fixes wont work).
It seemed really sluggish, and had parts of apps everywhere on it (i stole its SD card for my LG ), so i flashed Slimkat on it. works nicely enough, though i've noticed that any rom that is over 4.0.2 (what it originally came with), just doesn't perform as well as stock. However the clean OS and the extra ram from a complete clean like that, will make it standable until the LG is replaced.
What I like about it is that it is very robust. My little daughter wasn't able to destroy it yet.
So I guess I will stick with it as long as I can.
I had mine for about 3 years, first rom I ever flashed was android resolution HD, then vipers.
I still have it. Sensation never die, now it have android 6.0 and its awesome.