I oc'd it (HTC Glacier) today wayyy earlier to the max OC with my kernel (about 2GHz) and my 245 as the mininum. Governer was the ondemand, and the I/O Sched. was bfq/noop can't remember. So, I was using my phone and decided to run a quadrant, so before the test even started it froze. Like a brick. I looked at the time, and it was 3 minutes behind the current time now. So, I pulled my battery, and tried to boot. It wouldn't. It would have the blinking LED (amber/orange) and like when it was about to boot, the LED would just start over. I call that the "LED Loop". Once I figured what was wrong, I consulted my closest expert, XDA. I cleared the cache, still no dice but it actually booted, and once I unlocked, Rosie crashed and it froze once again. So here is the fix if you think your Glacier has given all hope on you.
1. Grab the same ROM
2. Unplug the phone, pull the battery, and hold POWER for 15 secs.
3. Insert the battery, plug up the phone, then LED Loop should begin.
4. Now hold VOL DWN+POWER together, LED Loop will continue, but don't let it fool you.
5. Then that place where you flash the PD15IMG.zip with the android on the skateboard will show.
6. After the check, go down to Recovery option and select it.
7. If you use 4EXT and go into WIPE screen, and format all partitions (except SD card, unless you want to)
8. Wipe Dalvik
9. Flash that ROM
10. DON'T FLASH ANY CUSTOM KERNELS!!! GIVE YOUR CPU ABOUT A 1 WEEK BREAK BEFORE EVEN FLASHING A NEW KERNEL, WHEN YOU DO, DON'T OVERCLOCK BEYOND 1.5GHz TO BE SAFE!!
That is the revive that I just tried and it worked. If you can't get into that screen. Check this out.. -NiNja.
Moral of the story: [in the words of faux123] not all chipsets are created equal. (Oh and don't oc to the max obviously) I only oc slightly when testing benchmarks and I've really only started testing benchmarks recently because I've been trying to learn some kernel tweaking and sometimes that's the only way you'll physically see a difference (I.e. the effects snappy compression on I/O). Other than that I see no point in benchmarking imo.
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Moral of the story: [in the words of faux123] not all chipsets are created equal. (Oh and don't oc to the max obviously) I only oc slightly when testing benchmarks and I've really only started testing benchmarks recently because I've been trying to learn some kernel tweaking and sometimes that's the only way you'll physically see a difference (I.e. the effects snappy compression on I/O). Other than that I see no point in benchmarking imo.
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Right, but even without a benchmark. There would've been something that would have made it come to the same outcome though...
Also having almost 2ghz between your min and max is asking for trouble. You're gonna get a freeze, period.
You don't check "Set on boot" until you're SURE the settings will work.
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Also having almost 2ghz between your min and max is asking for trouble. You're gonna get a freeze, period.
You don't check "Set on boot" until you're SURE the settings will work.
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I've learned my lesson. At 1.5GHz it will stay, forever.
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I've learned my lesson. At 1.5GHz it will stay, forever.
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Even 1.5 ghz is a little much, I would go at 1.3. I personally just keep mine at stock frequency. Also, I didn't read your whole story but when I pushed my phone to 2 ghz and set on boot, ik I was smart back then, all I did was boot into recovery and restore my backup
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I have done that to see how I high I could get benchmark scores... yeah not a good idea. I was using one of the earlier aokp roms from Awesome and I had it oc'd to the max. It didn't freeze it just drained my battery like no other. Took me a few days to realize. For what ever reason tge oc stuck. Sad part was that my benchmark scores were about the same lol
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So I found a kernel on the Fascinate forums that was built off of our EC10 froyo source that was from nemesis2all and I saw that he had added the ability to overclock and undervolt from within the ROM so I installed it just trying (backed up of course) and found that it does indeed work.
I then got the Voltage control app from the market and started playing around doing Quadrant scores throughout after each change. I found that at 1200 mhz I was getting 1600s instead of 1400s and the phone ran great. But when I tried 1400 mhz the phone froze up and restarted while doing the CPU section of the Quadrant test so I reverted back.
My question is, what would be safe to stay at for general use?
Second question, how do you use the voltage app to undervolt I see the settings but I don't know what to set them too.
Here is the link to the kernel
1200 has proven to be the most stable overclock, any higher and it will freeze up eventually.
With voltage control, the way it works is that you set the max clock and then it will give you increments that the phone will automatically clock to within the guidelines you give it. Then for each increment you can set the voltage it will use. Just look around and experiment with voltages, see how low you can go without having issues and never set it to apply at boot unless you know that's what you want, other than that go crazy and a reboot will fix it if you have a problem.
I recommend keeping setCPU installed along with it, that way you can still force it to underclock or overclock or whatever. It all depends on how much you use the phone and what for.
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Thanks sage I'm glad someone who knows what their talking about replied lol.
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I've been running overclocked at 1.3 and undervolted at least 50 for a couple days now. Only one issue and I'm not even sure it was related as it janet happened again. I posted my settings in the otb thread if you're curious.
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I've been running overclocked at 1.3 and undervolted at least 50 for a couple days now. Only one issue and I'm not even sure it was related as it janet happened again. I posted my settings in the otb thread if you're curious.
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H'm, I tried going up to 1.3 and it would freeze up after 5 or 10 minutes every time.
Like I said, 1.2 is the only one that has proven to be safe for everybody... not each phone is exactly the same and if akellars CPU has a soldering that is done a little bit different than mine, it might allow him to clock a little higher. who knows
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I've been running it for a week @ 1400 -25 undervolted and haven't had any issues. The new 1.6 gives me trouble. I don't think there's enough overvolting in that one to make it stable for pretty much anyone. I use the 1400, 800, 400, 200 steps all undervolted @50 except 1400 which as mentioned is -25. Battery life is good because during sleep it doesnt really hit the high end and by not having the other steps its snappy when in use. Fastest this phone has been by far. I don't use setcpu because I think it and the voltage app conflict. That was nemisis's instruction to install it.
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H'm, I tried going up to 1.3 and it would freeze up after 5 or 10 minutes every time.
Like I said, 1.2 is the only one that has proven to be safe for everybody... not each phone is exactly the same and if akellars CPU has a soldering that is done a little bit different than mine, it might allow him to clock a little higher. who knows
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Yup I'm just lucky 1.4 worked for me too but I didn't see much of a performance difference so I didn't see the need to stress the cpu out anymore than I already was. battery life had been awesome for me with my setup as well.
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I have a question about this kernel, i have it installed on the phone and flashed on it, it said in the post from nemesis2all that there was a Battery hack, i was curious how to use it, i currently have settings at Min=400 max=1300 all settings undervolted 50mV, how good are these settings? and would this be the optimal settings for performance and battery life? or anyone have a better setup that would help. seem to be getting high 1700 quadrant scores with how it is now.
In order to get the best battery life you would not want your phone over clocked, I run otb kernel as well and just uv the stock setting starting at 50 for the 1000, and progressively stepping down to negative 100. Anyways I run, 1000 -50, 800 and 600 -75, 400 200 & 100 at -100 and I have great battery life even with heavy usage and playing memory intensive games, paradise island, drag racing, pocket soccer. Unless your phone is laggy after you enable lagfix I think overclocking is probably just killing your battery faster the only roms I used light oc' ing for was phoenix and miuiwiz, where both launchers seemed to get some lag after a long days use
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The other school of thought on battery life is, if you overclock the processor, it will finish the task faster and return to a lower power idle state sooner.
well also i used SuperOneClick to root the phone, is rageagainstthecage a good root to use? or are there better ones out there? also sometimes this kernel like to freeze at start up and i have to re flash it. im pretty sure this isnt supposed to happen. any help or advise is greatly appreciated
I've had issues with OTB kernals before. Your problem could be the kernel, but I see you oc'd it to 1300. That too could be causing it. Each phone reacts differently to kernels and oc/uv.
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Are we able to still use any touchwiz kernal from ec10 on the new heintz 57 ee19 updated rom?
Well I re-flashed it and used same ovetclock just lower volts and am pulling a average 2100 quadrant score. Don't know if it means much but no lock ups anymore
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This could just be my stupidity, but if you can flash kernels then you have a custom recovery, right? What's the point of using super one click? Wouldn't having the recovery and the ability to change kernels, etc mean your already rooted? Just seems redundant, I never used a rooting app and still use all the root only apps....
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This could just be my stupidity, but if you can flash kernels then you have a custom recovery, right? What's the point of using super one click? Wouldn't having the recovery and the ability to change kernels, etc mean your already rooted? Just seems redundant, I never used a rooting app and still use all the root only apps....
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Kinda. The only way to flash a kernel is with a custom recovery but you don't necessarily have to be rooted to do that. EE19 is not rooted so that's why you need SOC if you want to root. Rooting opens up a lot of options for apps and moving and copying system files but isn't required for Roms/Kernels.
Anyone have any other general good ideas or cool tricks to do to this phone?
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Currently, im doing a bit of testing with the new phoenix 1.1 rom.
This baby can handle some crazy undervolting.
Currently:
1000 : -100
800 : - 100
600: -100
400: -100
200: -150
Going to see what i can get this down to...a bit more tweaking i bet the battery life can get phenomenal.
Try opening and closing the camera a few times in a row and see if it freezes. Or try a quad test, those are usually the things that will cause issues with too much under volting.
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Try opening and closing the camera a few times in a row and see if it freezes. Or try a quad test, those are usually the things that will cause issues with too much under volting.
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Already ahead of you. Up to:
1000 : -100
800 : - 100
600: -100
400: -150
200: -175
Usually ill run 4 quadrant tests and if it passes that it should be stable. Currently ran a 2187 is that a good score for 1.4ghz?
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also when using the OTB kernal what are safe settings to use? ive been running it at 1400Mhz but it lockes up and geeps giving me force close things on start up and never stops and i have to reflash to stock and start over? im assuming this isnt typical, can any one help out?
Actually that's probably pretty typical for an OC that high. I know I can't run it that high without lockups. From what I see in the original thread, most people don't run above 1300 most of the time.
SetCPU master coolbho3000 has updated his app to include support for the Tegra 2. It's available at all the familiar places.
2.2.0 - Added an "In Call" profile. Improved the Set on Boot safemode function by including a flashable zip that toggles SetCPU's safemode. Press menu on the main tab for more details. Added autodetect support for all Tegra 2 fakeShmoo kernels (ie. G2x). Added a "Voltage" tab for undervolting the CPU on fakeShmoo kernels, some custom Galaxy S kernels, and some Nexus S kernels. This is a full-fledged interface for undervolting these devices, and includes backing up and restoring and a Set on Boot checkbox. Improved the way SetCPU initially requests root. Various miscellaneous bugfixes.
Undervolting in SetCPU, now that's fantastic. By far the best purchase I've made on the market.
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Undervolting in SetCPU, now that's fantastic. By far the best purchase I've made on the market.
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Also has a cool feature that allows you to extract a zip file to your sdcard in case you've set it to 1.5/1.5 and your phone freaks out. You can just boot into recovery, flash the zip and it resets setcpu.
I must say, SetCPU 2.20 is quite amazing... worth every penny
Note to ppl who upgraded from existing setcpu...re-detect your cpu speeds from the main screen. Otherwise, voltage tab will force close on you.
What would you set "in-call" to?
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What would you set "in-call" to?
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I have 400/400 for screen off. I set in call to slightly higher at 400/500.
I'll need to test it tomorrow during calls and see if the screen wakes up quicker after a call ends.
For benching, I set it at 1500/1500 at 1300mV with no profile set for maximum power, and I'm getting much lower benchmarks in Smartbench 2011, than I was with pimpmycpu. Why do you think that would be?
pimpmycpu: 4400-4700
setcpu: 3700-4000
Wow very nice.
yes nice news ! Im happy to see old school
Great news. Just re-downloaded this and uninstalled pimp my cpu.
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Epiccccc. Bye bye pimp my CPU.
I love setcpu profiles
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I'm so pissed off by this. I legit bought cpu master at like noon on the 20th. Then I come home from work too setcpu being updated. dammit I want my two dollars back, I'm broke enough, and that could be bus money lol.
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I'm so pissed off by this. I legit bought cpu master at like noon on the 20th. Then I come home from work too setcpu being updated. dammit I want my two dollars back, I'm broke enough, and that could be bus money lol.
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womp womp. Broke but have a G2x! legit! lol. theres nothing that can come inbetween a man and his phone and car lol!
I didn't pay anything for the phone lol.
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New setcpu is working like a champ. OP, thanks for bringing this to our attention.
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Great news. Just re-downloaded this and uninstalled pimp my cpu.
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I did the same, but unfroze SETCPU and FROZE pimpmycpu.
In the transition, the battery got drained quite a bit over a few minutes, and heated up pretty fast when initially recharging. I had rebooted in between, but there may still have been some residual conflicts between the apps.
It froze at one point, but after a battery pull, it settled down. Overnight battery drain (with screen-off profile set pretty low) was only 4% over 8 hours. This is on EB 1.0.2 and faux stock kernel. Quadrent "only" around 4000, but everything works and this has apparently improved battery life.
A note on pimpmycpu - I thought scaling to min had stuck, but apparently not. Battery consumption was 12-15 % overnight compared to the above.
Thanks OP! I severely dislike pimpmycpu...
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So am I the only one that is getting significantly lower smartbench 2011 results with this updated setcpu as opposed to pimpmycpu?
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So am I the only one that is getting significantly lower smartbench 2011 results with this updated setcpu as opposed to pimpmycpu?
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I have not seen that, although compared to Quadrent, I had not seen the very high scores that some had. I doubt SETCPU would impact you OC'd performance at max setting (although pimp had scheduler settings and SETCPU does not).
i never used custom kernels before but overclocking to 1.5ghz is awesome. one downfall, phone gets super hot and my phone restarts. i've heard of undervolting but i have no clue on how to set it using setcpu. i've heard 1.5ghz to be something like -100mv but do i set -100mv to all of the frequencies?
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i never used custom kernels before but overclocking to 1.5ghz is awesome. one downfall, phone gets super hot and my phone restarts. i've heard of undervolting but i have no clue on how to set it using setcpu. i've heard 1.5ghz to be something like -100mv but do i set -100mv to all of the frequencies?
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What do you need the phone to do if you want it to be constantly at 1.5ghz?
You can try using Faux's or Trinity kernel. Both have versions that are already UV'd upon flash. Although some chips can't handle UV. Also, I believe you have to use a different app to control your voltage.
When i play games or watch movies i set it up to 1.5ghz and since school is out and no job... im kinda on my phone for a few hours. Also, i tend to forget to turn it down.
Oh yea my bad, its cpu master. I tried -100mv to all frequencies and it'll work for like a minute then it'll freeze and have to pull out the batt.
I'll check out those other kernels but this one has really fast boot. Although, which of the other kernels gets updated the most?
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When i play games or watch movies i set it up to 1.5ghz and since school is out and no job... im kinda on my phone for a few hours. Also, i tend to forget to turn it down.
Oh yea my bad, its cpu master. I tried -100mv to all frequencies and it'll work for like a minute then it'll freeze and have to pull out the batt.
I'll check out those other kernels but this one has really fast boot. Although, which of the other kernels gets updated the most?
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Faux boots up in less than 30 seconds for me so give that a shot. Both Faux and Trinity get's updated very often. So you can't go wrong with either.
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When i play games or watch movies i set it up to 1.5ghz and since school is out and no job... im kinda on my phone for a few hours. Also, i tend to forget to turn it down.
Oh yea my bad, its cpu master. I tried -100mv to all frequencies and it'll work for like a minute then it'll freeze and have to pull out the batt.
I'll check out those other kernels but this one has really fast boot. Although, which of the other kernels gets updated the most?
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I play games like dead space and Nova at 1.2 and have no lag whatsoever, basically they only time overclocking to 1.5 does anything is when you're running some type of performance test.
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Faux boots up in less than 30 seconds for me so give that a shot. Both Faux and Trinity get's updated very often. So you can't go wrong with either.
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I play games like dead space and Nova at 1.2 and have no lag whatsoever, basically they only time overclocking to 1.5 does anything is when you're running some type of performance test.
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aaahh yea im starting to c wat u mean. keeping it 1.1 and its still good. got used to the old phones under 1ghz and single core.
oh, do guys have to links to the kernels? im trying to find it but its usually part of a rom.
Go in the development section and look for [kernel] in the titles and not ones that say [rom].
Are any 2ghz kernels compatible with cm7?
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Are any 2ghz kernels compatible with cm7?
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at the risk of offending you, I would not recommend setting your phone to 2ghz..I can assure you nothing great in the long term is going to happen. As for kernels give LordClockan and TalonAce a glance, I'm not 100% sure if they are 2ghz kernels but its a good jumping off point
2ghz will fry your CPU. Maybe not initially buy your phone will definitely fail prematurely. The only reasons other people do it is because they can and they probably have a newer phone for their daily. Even just overclocking a little bit can have a negative impact but not as drastic. If you insist on overclocking I wouldnt exceed 1.4.
With that said there are several Aosp kernels that will allow you to push it to the limit. Just search the dev forum.
Overclocking your cpu will not hurt it unless its running hotter than the cooling system can handle. It will cause lock ups and failure to boot. If you start overvolting it, you WILL cause premature damage to the chip itself. Optimum overclock has always been 10-20% increase for any processor. Personally id rather underclock and undervolt a little, runs cooler and less power drain.
gizmoe is right, 2ghz is a 'just cuz i can' overclock. it wont run stable at that level. its like the 8ghz overclocks you see on the intel processors using LN2 cooling lol.
2ghz is bad.
I ran my inspire at 2ghz and besides the battery practically counting down the phones was heating up and that was maybe 15 minutes. Definitely not a goods idea.
Thank you for the input and info guys.
I could over clock and undervolt on a past captivate. Is there any app you would recommended for the inspire on cm7 to do this?
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Thank you for the input and info guys.
I could over clock and undervolt on a past captivate. Is there any app you would recommended for the inspire on cm7 to do this?
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Setcpu use to be the go to app but many found it to lag after waking the phone. Many have now moved on to daemon controller. From the looks of it you're using CM7 which has the function built in..I believe its menu > settings > CM settings > performance...or something like that...don't check set on boot until you know how much OC your phone can candle. If you like CM, take a look at Absolution by the Collective. They have scripts written for custom profiles for OC and UVing.
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If you like CM, take a look at Absolution by the Collective. They have scripts written for custom profiles for OC and UVing.
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I've clocked to 2ghz a few times just to get a crazy quadrant score but that's about it. I usually keep mine somewhere in the 900mhz range with a little lite uv'ing and found that to be plenty.
2ghz can definitely be bad for your cpu..... Like to much bacon can be bad for your arteries.....
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