[Q] new battery - Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi guys,
Recently my nexus battery life became awful. It was never good but it became really bad, like 15%/hour with low usage (some texting and short calls) but wifi+data on (however when i'm turning off wifi it barely change). If i'm using whatapp (for example) without turning off the screen, i can loose 1% every 1-2 minutes. I'm using completely stock 4.1.1 (i9020a if it matter).
I also made factory reset 2 weeks ago, didn't change anything.
I have this phone for a year now but the sticker on the back says that it was produces in march 2011 so the battery is 1.5 years old, probably around it's EOL.
I searched for new batteries, but most of the original batteries i found are 1440 mAh. Mine is 1500. Is this making a big difference? the battery life now is making the phone barely usable but i obviously won't buy a new battery if it won't make it any better...
Any advice about this issue?
Thanks!

yoavp10 said:
Hi guys,
Recently my nexus battery life became awful. It was never good but it became really bad, like 15%/hour with low usage (some texting and short calls) but wifi+data on (however when i'm turning off wifi it barely change). If i'm using whatapp (for example) without turning off the screen, i can loose 1% every 1-2 minutes. I'm using completely stock 4.1.1 (i9020a if it matter).
I also made factory reset 2 weeks ago, didn't change anything.
I have this phone for a year now but the sticker on the back says that it was produces in march 2011 so the battery is 1.5 years old, probably around it's EOL.
I searched for new batteries, but most of the original batteries i found are 1440 mAh. Mine is 1500. Is this making a big difference? the battery life now is making the phone barely usable but i obviously won't buy a new battery if it won't make it any better...
Any advice about this issue?
Thanks!
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1440mah won't change much compared to 1500mah. If you have a custom rom make sure to wipe everything from recovery, re-install your ROM and see how that goes. A lot of times bad battery can be explained by the user usage rather than by defective hardware.
Nevertheless, it's not impossible the battery is dying, so it's not a bad idea to buy a battery. Make sure you buy quality instead of china products, OEM will give you the best results.

polobunny said:
1440mah won't change much compared to 1500mah. If you have a custom rom make sure to wipe everything from recovery, re-install your ROM and see how that goes. A lot of times bad battery can be explained by the user usage rather than by defective hardware.
Nevertheless, it's not impossible the battery is dying, so it's not a bad idea to buy a battery. Make sure you buy quality instead of china products, OEM will give you the best results.
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Thx, as i said i'm completely stock and recently made a factory reset which is equal to wipe. the battery should be made by samsung, so it's not a china product (or is it? )

yoavp10 said:
Thx, as i said i'm completely stock and recently made a factory reset which is equal to wipe. the battery should be made by samsung, so it's not a china product (or is it? )
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No that's perfectly fine. As I said, you don't want crappy unknown brand battery. If it's too cheap too, it could be a copy.
Factory reset isn't equal to wipe though.

OK, thank you! I'll but a new battery and hope that this is the problem

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[Q] Batteries and Cases

i know there are a lot of batteries out there for our phone. here's what i'm looking for:
1. i'm running the stock battery, so one that's obviously higher mAh
2. it shouldnt be big like those extended ones. it should be the same size as the stock battery
3. price should be pretty cheap, under $10.
i'm guessing the gold slim 2450 mAh one would be the one i should get, correct?
also side question on batteries: batteries that are made for the sensation 4g can work for ours, correct?
and one more question: are there are silicone cases out there for the mytouch 4g slide?
thanks!
one more thing: if i want to use my stock battery as a backup, will it be an issue cuz of battery stats? as in, if i'm using my new battery, it gets down to 5% in the middle of the day cuz i use it a lot, i put in my backup (stock) battery, will it drain quickly or something because the phone got used to the new battery?
They are slightly more expensive than $10 but the Anker battery is a clearly superior battery. I've ran two for over a year and it has stood up to every thing I asked of it.
I just bought a Galaxy note 2. The aftermarket battery I bought was another pair of Ankers.
Nothing that fits the stock size profile is going to survive a 16hr heavy use beating.
Still sometimes quality is affordable.
Hastily spouted for your befuddlement
anitgandhi said:
one more thing: if i want to use my stock battery as a backup, will it be an issue cuz of battery stats? as in, if i'm using my new battery, it gets down to 5% in the middle of the day cuz i use it a lot, i put in my backup (stock) battery, will it drain quickly or something because the phone got used to the new battery?
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No, battery stats are wiped every time the battery hits 100%. There was a post made by a Google engineer stating that "wiping" said stats to increase battery did nothing. I've NEVER and I mean never wiped battery stats because I simply do not believe in it "helps".
Now this is going to lead to the oh I wipe mine and man it helps me a ton......way to go for you and the placebo effect, it shows how easily the human mind can be manipulated
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strapped365 said:
No, battery stats are wiped every time the battery hits 100%. There was a post made by a Google engineer stating that "wiping" said stats to increase battery did nothing. I've NEVER and I mean never wiped battery stats because I simply do not believe in it "helps".
Now this is going to lead to the oh I wipe mine and man it helps me a ton......way to go for you and the placebo effect, it shows how easily the human mind can be manipulated
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i used to wipe every time i did a ROM flash, and then i stopped since people said it's not good (albeit i didn't understand them). now i know why!

[Q] Battery Life and 4200mAh Replaceable Battery

Hey guys, I just wanted to check if my battery life is abnormal or not. During normal usage, it's a bit hard for me to compare because I'm tending to use this phone a lot more than my previous one (Xperia Z1 Compact) but overnight, it would tend to lose at least 7-8%. Last night, I decided to try disabling auto-sync, put it on Power Saving and see what would happen (as well as closed all my apps through the regular task manager) and it dropped a whopping from 45% to 31%! Don't know how that happened.
When I go into the Power menu, I can see that Android System used 13%, Android OS and Screen used 10% each, Google Play Services used 9% and a few other apps and services used 4% or less. I got my Note Edge in Australia and is currently using it in the U.K but it's an international variant (SM-N915G) and is compatible with my current carrier (O2). I'm running stock 5.0.1 rooted. Do you guys think it's normal?
Another question regarding the battery: I have never owned a smartphone before that allowed me to switch batteries so I was wondering, would something like this or this be trustworthy? They seem really cheap and the capacity is 4200mAh whereas the stock battery is only 3000mAh. From your experience buying replaceable batteries, is it safe to use something like this (not to mention, they says they're compatible with the N9150 but didn't mention the N915G)? Thanks a lot in advance!
A lot of folks have had similar issues with lollipop. Backup all your data and do and full reset. Seems to sort out the battery drain issues
Good luck
ZaJules said:
A lot of folks have had similar issues with lollipop. Backup all your data and do and full reset. Seems to sort out the battery drain issues
Good luck
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Thanks a lot. Just a quick noobie question, should I just backup with Titanium and then do a reset from inside the OS or should I do it through CWM (I already have a recent enough nand backup). Cheers!
I have had horrid battery life since lollipop upgrade. I want to go back to kit kat so bad. Primarily because of the battery and because notifications appear as overlays in some apps now instead of on the edge. The phone also is less responsive. I kick myself every day for upgrading.
Side note, are the batteries listed above supposed to actually fit inside the phone with no physical distortion?
steve austin said:
I have had horrid battery life since lollipop upgrade. I want to go back to kit kat so bad. Primarily because of the battery and because notifications appear as overlays in some apps now instead of on the edge. The phone also is less responsive. I kick myself every day for upgrading.
Side note, are the batteries listed above supposed to actually fit inside the phone with no physical distortion?
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I haven't had any major issues since upgrading to Lollipop, I was just hoping to squeeze a bit more out of the battery life. As for responsiveness, I'd say it's about the same, if not slightly better. You sound like you might also do with a factory reset. I just want to know if the factory reset option in the settings would do the job or if I should do it from the recovery.
As for the above batteries, I would imagine that they should fit perfectly since they were designed for the Note Edge but since I have had no experience with replaceable batteries, I would like to hear some confirmation.
I have mine on power saving mode and screen brightness on 43%. I get two full days usage so I only charge it once every two days.
colint3 said:
I have mine on power saving mode and screen brightness on 43%. I get two full days usage so I only charge it once every two days.
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In those 2 days, could you take a look and let me know how long your screen was on for?
I had a battery from the same manufacturer as your first link for a s2, it was apparently bigger in capacity, but drained faster than the stock battery and swelled after two weeks to the point that the rear cover wouldnt close fully.
Id steer clear if i was you.
Beetle84 said:
I had a battery from the same manufacturer as your first link for a s2, it was apparently bigger in capacity, but drained faster than the stock battery and swelled after two weeks to the point that the rear cover wouldnt close fully.
Id steer clear if i was you.
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Damn, I hope your phone is still okay! Thanks for the heads up!
Beetle84 said:
I had a battery from the same manufacturer as your first link for a s2, it was apparently bigger in capacity, but drained faster than the stock battery and swelled after two weeks to the point that the rear cover wouldnt close fully.
Id steer clear if i was you.
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Yeah, that was my concern. The only time I had a higher capacity battery fit snugly into a phone and work as intended was when I had my htc sensation. Anker made a higher mA battery that really worked. Everything now seems to be a sham. I will avoid it.
You can't fit more capacity of battery in the same size more than it's done by Samsung, otherwise they would do it. These are just fake numbers, I'm sure they're even less than the 3,000 made by Samsung.
As for the resetting your phone, settings option pretty much does the job.

Extended Battery Photon Q

Hey guys,
I was looking into extended batteries for the Photon Q and noticed that the Droid 4 uses the same battery as our phone. Is it possible to use one of their aftermarket batteries?
I want a slim battery (not interested in making the phone bigger) and this one shows the best results from the D4 forums
Our original battery has some green tag on it as seen here:
http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/ECQAAMXQUmFSjm2l/$_35.JPG
Is that just for NFC or something else? I don't mind losing NFC if that means I get more battery life
I got the mugen power battery to fit by removing some plastic and the back of the case, and of course NFC. Problem is it would get hot and slow down too often. Maybe that phone, maybe the battery, not sure, never tried it in another xt897.
I went ahead and ordered this gold slim battery
I'll be happy if it's even 10-15% better than a fresh stock battery
I will report back with my findings. In my current usage with one of the latest nightlies, I barely get 1-1.5 hours of screen on time when on mobile data and about 2 hours of screen on time when on wifi
While I've had decent luck with the gold batteries, they are actually just a factory Motorola battery with a shiny gold wrapper put on them. With that said though, at least from the ones I got they seem in every way to be genuine Motorola batteries, so still a good deal. I ended up getting a Mugen too and am working on making a case. I've got one molded up with some bondo but think I might end up trying to make one with super glue and baking soda like another poster did to make it more durable. I can still fit it in the vehicle dock by filing the USB port holder on the dock down a little bit.
If anyone uses the Mugen and happens to use Tasker, I wrote a tasker script to attempt to get an accurate battery percentage from the voltage readings and then update the OS if anyone wants. I also wrote one to keep the keyboard backlight more like the factory ROM instead of following the display backlight like it does in CM.
Just an update. Installed the battery today. I did partially peel off the gold sticker and it was all silver underneath. I know in other threads, the gold battery was reported to be a fake battery, or even stock battery with a new wrapper.
Initial results are good, but it's too early to tell. I will report back with updated usage. So far I'm not even sure battery stats are being reported correctly but it's a drastic increase in battery life.
So the gold battery has mixed results. The first few days I used it, the battery seemed pretty good. About 1.5 times longer than my shot original battery. However I noticed this battery does weird things in reporting numbers. Many times it will report 20% and then drop drastically fast to 0%.
Overall it's a decent battery but certainly not the capacity on the label. I would think a fresh stock battery would perform similarly without the weird drop off.
The biggest difference between my the gold and old stock battery is that it tends to sip power better. When the phone is not in use, the battery won't drain as fast. However when in use the battery drains just as fast. Maybe a little slower with gold, but not a huge difference.
My only concern is sourcing good batteries for this phone now. Even if I found a new stock battery, the unit itself has to be at least 3 years old. I'm sure motorola doesn't make new batteries for this phone anymore...
Wish we could frakenstein a battery for this phone
Something like this user did
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63940045&postcount=19
I would even pay someone if they can make me a custom extended battery like that. Anyone that can help?
gtmaster303 said:
So the gold battery has mixed results. The first few days I used it, the battery seemed pretty good. About 1.5 times longer than my shot original battery. However I noticed this battery does weird things in reporting numbers. Many times it will report 20% and then drop drastically fast to 0%.
Overall it's a decent battery but certainly not the capacity on the label. I would think a fresh stock battery would perform similarly without the weird drop off.
The biggest difference between my the gold and old stock battery is that it tends to sip power better. When the phone is not in use, the battery won't drain as fast. However when in use the battery drains just as fast. Maybe a little slower with gold, but not a huge difference.
My only concern is sourcing good batteries for this phone now. Even if I found a new stock battery, the unit itself has to be at least 3 years old. I'm sure motorola doesn't make new batteries for this phone anymore...
Wish we could frakenstein a battery for this phone
Something like this user did
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63940045&postcount=19
I would even pay someone if they can make me a custom extended battery like that. Anyone that can help?
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I could do that. With that LG battery or a different one that fits better? I don't love that it is thicker by up to 1mm.
I also saw some other eb41 batteries on the market (read my thread here for the 4 I've found ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-4/accessories/best-battery-t3341507). Not sure how good they are, only had the same mixed experience with the gold.
gtmaster303 said:
My only concern is sourcing good batteries for this phone now. Even if I found a new stock battery, the unit itself has to be at least 3 years old. I'm sure motorola doesn't make new batteries for this phone anymore...
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Lenmar still makes batteries for this phone (EB41, fits Droid 4 and Photon Q). I ordered 3 about 6 months ago and there was a 2 month lead time, so they obviously were newly manufactured batteries. I keep a spare in the fridge, the ones in my Droid 4 and Photon Q perform like new as expected.
Note: it won't come with the NFC antenna, but with great care this can be removed from the old battery and reattached.
I would like an extended battery too, but only if it came with a nicely fitting cover. Mugen makes one for the Droid 4 which could be used with the Photon Q, but they don't make a corresponding cover for the Photon Q.
Hope this helps.
P.S. which ROM do you guys use on this phone? I'm running CM 12.1 and it is fine, but when I have a few apps running like Google Music and Navigation, the phone gets super slow due to lack of memory. Under 'Apps -> Running' it shows 450 MB used just for System! I guess 1 GB phones are just passe at this point--or is there a better way to get more life out of this phone?
Cheers,
Mario

Kompson vs Stock Battery

So guys, celebrating or Forum acquisition.
Let's talk about one of the biggest issues that a huge part of S3 users, that acquired their phones last year had. The battery drop.
It weirdly started for some after the Lollipop upgrade, with a 15 or 20 sudden drop, 1, 2, 3 seconds and you phone turns off!
Firstly we all thought this was a software issue, but after countless work and updates on this part and no fix for it, we started to think that problem was not a software one but with batteries itself.
The cause will remain a mystery. A defective lot? A issue that was ignited by LP? And proof of batteries defect, the drops gets worse with time. 20, 30, 40% drop to zero, batteries getting inflacted watch out if you have this issue!
Fortunately this seems to be fixed in newest batteries, that are sold on main stores, if you're ordering a original one get from main stores, Aliexpress stores are just selling fake ones by my investigations.
Luckily we found at Aliexpress this Kompson battery. At first sight it looked like a big scam, promising capacity for a not so popular phone? Definitely could look like a scam. But then a courageous buyer bought one and not only got great capacity or duration, as got the drop issue aliviated.
My case, after a whole year with two original batteries. They started to suffer huge drops from 50% in the last 6 months, with max of 2:30 SOT. One got inflated, they badly lasted me more than a . Yesterday finally got my Kompson and my issue meet a end. No drop, maybe at 5%, 3% I got a drop to 1% then it last some time more and turns off.
This topic is to inform people with the Drop issue, as well as letting your experience with new, old stock batteries or Kompson. In order to inform and help people with this freaking issue.
I only got one battery with my device, so the moment I started to notice these strange drops, plus none of the "rescue" solutions such as battery calibration (rooted), didn't do anything, I search AliXpress, and bought one KonPson with any risk...
Since March 29th that I am using it, the phone works also with 0%!!! No crazy drops, no suddden 50%...
The load discharges slow an normaly.
TapaTalk and JiaYu S3 with Android MM!
Battery calibration isnt quick process to get rid off drops. What You need to do is stay with ONE rom longer! Do a calibration at 100%. Restart the phone. Than three-five times fully discharge battery (with normal use) and charge it to 100% its times. It take week or so. I have konspon and orginal battery and I dont have any drops - no matter which battery I use. I've made flashable batterystats file (from my own file after a week or so) and when I need to test new rom and return to mine testes I do flash batterystats.bin file via recovery and thats all.
pavlikdc said:
Battery calibration isnt quick process to get rid off drops. What You need to do is stay with ONE rom longer! Do a calibration at 100%. Restart the phone. Than three-five times fully discharge battery (with normal use) and charge it to 100% its times. It take week or so. I have konspon and orginal battery and I dont have any drops - no matter which battery I use. I've made flashable batterystats file and when I need to test new rom and return (I always return) flash it via recovery and thats all.
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I had two defective batteries, no way a calibration would save them from 50% drops.
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Just swapped in my Kompson that I purchased a few months ago as a spare as I was experiencing a 10% drop. From my experience it was definitely battery degradation as it started fine and eventually worked up to 5% then 10% while the Kompson goes all the way down to 0%. It will be interesting to see if the Kompson does the same in such a short period as then it might be the device causing degredation rather than poorly made batteries.
@genesisalgor One question, do you recommend buy this battery?
Link: https://m.es.aliexpress.com/item/32...00&s=p&spm=2114.30011108.6.50.ogmw1U#autostay
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kaneki666 said:
@genesisalgor One question, do you recommend buy this battery?
Link: https://m.es.aliexpress.com/item/32...00&s=p&spm=2114.30011108.6.50.ogmw1U#autostay
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I got one with this label and its the same for me. like the normal one, 3000, 3050.
@genesisalgor Konpson battery still good until now? My 2 year old original battery started to inflate. Thank you.
teamh said:
@genesisalgor Konpson battery still good until now? My 2 year old original battery started to inflate. Thank you.
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Mine is rock solid until now, if it's inflated you should replace it immediately, there's a guy that battery got in fire and ruined the phone too.
genesisalgor said:
Mine is rock solid until now, if it's inflated you should replace it immediately, there's a guy that battery got in fire and ruined the phone too.
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One more question. Is it the store you bought from (BouBoo International trade co., LTD)?
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/kon...ttery-free-shipping-Tracking/32360303710.html
I have 5 batteries and a pair of external chargers. One of the 5 is a Kompson. The differences are not abysmal but their performance is better.
Hi,
Where could I buy legit battery (stock or konpson) for Jiayu S3 Advance?
I have this same exact battery, I was the first one to get my hands on in our group and its so good that my facebook friends started to try buying it from me. So I sold it to one of them after I sold my jiayu s3 to get an iPhone.
Now that I just went back from an iPhone 2 months ago into another Jiayu S3 unit, I have to buy another Konpson battery for the same reason why my friends wants my Konpson so bad. LOL
Bye bye batt drops, hello my dear konpson
If you're gonna get one, just ignore what the capacity says. As long as it says Konpson for jiayu s3, you're all good. Those capacity are just labels anyway, in reality its the same capacity to the stock battery, just more efficient as to why it works and performs better than the stock battery despite having the same capacity.
kompson batteries no longer exist. now they are ones called "losoncoer" i think is the same factory (very similar sticker)
soon it will arrive and i will try it
bmanuelangel said:
kompson batteries no longer exist. now they are ones called "losoncoer" i think is the same factory (very similar sticker)
soon it will arrive and i will try it
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What about the LOSONCOER one? Any hint? A lot of russian language commentaries with problems with the shop

Is my phone done for?

My Nexus 5 is more than 3 years old, and I think its planned obsolescence is kicking in.
Its battery life right now is about 3 hours, less with intensive use. I've tried buying a new battery, and even tried it with a fresh stock rom, no apps installed, with similar results. It makes sense to it draining so much battery regardless of the conditions? (I won't post GSam screenshots, since the same happens in these different scenarios).
I mean, I LOVE my phone, I can't think of a worthy replacement for good old Nexus 5... but I can't go on with 3 hours of battery life. Has this happened to any of you? What should I do?
walawalabinbon said:
My Nexus 5 is more than 3 years old, and I think its planned obsolescence is kicking in.
Its battery life right now is about 3 hours, less with intensive use. I've tried buying a new battery, and even tried it with a fresh stock rom, no apps installed, with similar results. It makes sense to it draining so much battery regardless of the conditions? (I won't post GSam screenshots, since the same happens in these different scenarios).
I mean, I LOVE my phone, I can't think of a worthy replacement for good old Nexus 5... but I can't go on with 3 hours of battery life. Has this happened to any of you? What should I do?
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I'm sorry to hear this! I just went through HELL and back to get my nexus 5 back working.. (replaced LCD/Digitizer, USB flex cable, Battery, installed chroot and adb/fastboot on chromebook to flash TWRP and root)
It's an AWESOME device. I would suggest getting a decent battery replacement and look at battery management apps or maybe a battery case? If my phone could be used on Verizon, I'd swap out my Galaxy S6 for the Nexus 5 in a heartbeat..
Best of luck!
i3uu said:
I'm sorry to hear this! I just went through HELL and back to get my nexus 5 back working.. (replaced LCD/Digitizer, USB flex cable, Battery, installed chroot and adb/fastboot on chromebook to flash TWRP and root)
It's an AWESOME device. I would suggest getting a decent battery replacement and look at battery management apps or maybe a battery case? If my phone could be used on Verizon, I'd swap out my Galaxy S6 for the Nexus 5 in a heartbeat..
Best of luck!
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I've in fact searched for battery cases, and good battery replacements, but being it a discontinued device is kinda hard (almost impossible). I've bought a battery claiming to be "official", still very bad results. For the case, the only battery case I've found available is this one, and it's a bad chinese battery: https://es.aliexpress.com/store/pro...r-Case-Free-Shipping/1267012_32683454756.html
Besides, I'm from Spain, so any usa store probably won't send to my country.
Any recommendations with this are appreciated!
walawalabinbon said:
I've in fact searched for battery cases, and good battery replacements, but being it a discontinued device is kinda hard (almost impossible). I've bought a battery claiming to be "official", still very bad results. For the case, the only battery case I've found available is this one, and it's a bad chinese battery: https://es.aliexpress.com/store/pro...r-Case-Free-Shipping/1267012_32683454756.html
Besides, I'm from Spain, so any usa store probably won't send to my country.
Any recommendations with this are appreciated!
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Some of us have bought a battery replacement in RepuestosFuentes. Here's the direct link. They run out of stock from time to time.
As I said, mine is from there and it's working fine. Also, it has a recent manufacture date printed on it.
I still love my Nexus 5. Recently I paid around $13 to get the battery replaced at LG Service Center here in Bangalore, India and now the phone is back and running. Installed AOSP 7.1.1 and it's running as smooth as 6.0.
Brshk1 said:
Some of us have bought a battery replacement in RepuestosFuentes. Here's the direct link. They run out of stock from time to time.
As I said, mine is from there and it's working fine. Also, it has a recent manufacture date printed on it.
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Actually, I'm not so sure a new battery would make things a lot better. Thing is, any battery attached to my phone just drains extremely fast (maybe some hardware issue?), so... replacing a new internal battery can make things better, but not much, since it's a internal battery.
The ideal solution would be a good battery case, so I can add that to its normal battery. But, as I said, I didn't find one that seems trustworthy for sale right now.

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