The ICS+ browser on my TF700 has started acting up lately. It was running fairly stable since I got the tab in May but all of a sudden it just closes down on almost every site as soon as the site loads. I am seeing the exact same thing with Boat browser and stock, but so far Opera seems to be working (although no videos will play for me in opera).
I am running Browser2Ram and have add-ins on demand. I have cleared cache, forced stop and cleared cache, and re-installled. I've also re-installed Browser2Ram. Nothing seems to impact the browser crashing once a page loads.
I would like to avoid a factory reset - any ideas?
Started having this problem with stock browser recently
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I'm having this too, not with every site but for example Huffington Post does it every time. It happens when the page is almost loaded or right after it completes, then suddenly the stock browser FCs and I'm back at desktop. No reboots or other apparent instability, just this one issue, and a manual reboot doesn't solve it.
Just got my TF700T yesterday from Amazon, a 'C8' that came with latest ICS firmware 9.4.5.26. I don't think this happened at first though, then there was a firmware update for the dock (using my former Prime dock) and I also rooted (but didn't unlock), so coincidentally or not it was after those things that this seemed to start. Just tried a factory reset and this time didn't setup anything extra (no Playstore updates, no Flash, nothing but setup wifi) and am still having same issue so that didn't help.
Are you other folks also rooted, or is there someone else with this issue who isn't rooted, to possibly rule out rooting as being related? I don't see other posts about this, and you both say this just started after having your tablets for a while, so did you recently root or receive this supposed firmware update for the dock?
My galaxy s2 is doing the same. And my touchpad. All of a sudden out of no where. Very weird.
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Just tried a factory reset and this time didn't setup anything extra (no Playstore updates, no Flash, nothing but setup wifi) and am still having same issue so that didn't help.
Are you other folks also rooted, or is there someone else with this issue who isn't rooted, to possibly rule out rooting as being related? I don't see other posts about this, and you both say this just started after having your tablets for a while, so did you recently root or receive this supposed firmware update for the dock?
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So a factory reset did not help? This is not good news, but saves me the hassle of restoring everything.
I am rooted, but have been since the 1st day. I do not have a dock, so we can rule that out.
From what I remember in the past, when this type of thing happens across websites and across different ROMs, it is due to something in a banner or poster ad that is crashing the app. Just something they'll need to fix.
Not positive though.
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From what I remember in the past, when this type of thing happens across websites and across different ROMs, it is due to something in a banner or poster ad that is crashing the app. Just something they'll need to fix.
Not positive though.
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Forgot to mention I'm running ad-free as well so not likely due to an ad since those are all blocked.
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So a factory reset did not help? This is not good news, but saves me the hassle of restoring everything.
I am rooted, but have been since the 1st day. I do not have a dock, so we can rule that out.
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I only had it one day and hadn't set it up completely, so didn't mind and glad to save others the trouble. And thanks to your feedback it doesn't look like rooting or a dock issue.
Never had this on my Prime, and tried it today before sending it back to Amazon for a refund, but none of the same sites that make the stock browser crash on the 700 did so on it. Chrome is okay though, so for me it's just the stock browser, though I haven't tried any others yet.
Also noticed today the Maps app does this too, takes a couple minutes but suddenly *poof* and it's gone. Regarding ads, had no blocker installed at first when testing after the factory reset, then setup AdAway since and the problem occurred in both cases. Also Maps has no ads so I doubt it's directly because of them.
Mine has started this also. I am rooted but unlocked. I run adfree.
Same problem here. I'm noticing it with cbssports.Com. It's happening with dolphin browser both stable release and their beta. Happens on my tf700 and HTC evo 4G lte, both rooted, ad block.
Sure sounds like ad block is the common thing here! I do not use ad block and haven't had any issues...
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Same problem here with the stock browser crashing. Over and over and over on major sites like Engadget.
I am not running any type of ad-block nor do I have hardly any apps installed nor running. My TF700T is pretty much stock as all it gets used for is an internet surfer and medial player.
Unimpressed TF700T owner here
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Sure sounds like ad block is the common thing here! I do not use ad block and haven't had any issues...
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Maybe. Mine closed out of the stock browser like twice today, but the problems been happening much more frequently with my phones browser lately. Both have ad blocking enabled, so that might actually be the culprit.
Any users who don't use ad blockers having this problem?
EDIT: Just saw the post above mine, interesting... Can't definitively blame ad blockers. I wonder what's going on.
I am stock, not rooted, not running the ad blocking thing and experiencing the incessant browser crashing this past week
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I dont have a transformer but I am having a similar issues, google browser started crashing about 4 days ago. After either changing the user agent back to android from desktop or disabling java script my browser no longer crashes. I tried a complete factory reset and multiple roms without luck. Firefox also started crashing, after installing add block plus no more crashing so far. I have a suspicion its an add/banner site causing the issue.
Can someone explain how to catch this with logcat since I can easily replicate the problem. Maybe we can see what is crashing in the logs.
I decided to test this a little further - here's what I found... It seems completely dependent on what browser you use. I have the same crash issue with the Stock browser, Chrome and Overskreen, but NOT with Boat Browser. I've also noticed that I don't seem to have the issue with the stock browser as long as I don't tell it to use the desktop version of sites. If I look at a logcat when the issue happens, I see a ton of debug messages about "libchromium"... At first I was thinking that un-installing the latest Chrome update may fix it, but that is not the case (it doesn't fix it).
Is it possible that the last Chrome update updated some OS file and simply un-installing the Chrome update does not actually revert that OS file? Even with Chrome disabled, I still see the problem in the browsers mentioned above...
My suggested work-around, at least for now, is to use Boat browser until the problem gets resolved, which is hopefully soon.
How the hell do we inform Asus of these types of issues?? I wish there was some way to report bugs directly to Asus...
Maybe I'll try actually un-installing the Chrome browser completely (since I'm rooted, I should be able to do that). I'll report my findings. This is a pretty bad issue!
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Can someone explain how to catch this with logcat since I can easily replicate the problem. Maybe we can see what is crashing in the logs.
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I've found that the easiest way to see what it going on when it happens is to use an app called AirTerm - it's a "floating" terminal emulator. So, I start that up, which is visible in a window even while using the browser, and simply watch what happens in the logcat output while reproducing the issue (which is pretty easy, as you've mentioned)... According to what I see in the logcat output, it sure seems related to Chrome...
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Hmm, it seems that simple disabling the "Enable JavaScript" option sees to solve the issue (browsing is a lot faster too, although I'm sure this will cause loss of functionality too).... I was not able to make it crash after disable JavaScript though...
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Ok, last update (I promise!)... I was incorrect earlier - the Chrome browser seems to be un-affected by this issue - I'm seeing the issue only in the stock browser and Overskreen and only if JavaScript is enabled (I only tested Stock, Chrome, Overskreen and Boat).
Chrome and Boat don't exhibit the issue at all, even if JavaScript is enabled.
Again, my recommendation would be to just use Boat browser until this issue is resolved. Chrome on the TF700 just sucks (in my opinion) - no flash, slow scrolling, etc. Boat allows for Flash and scrolling is nice and fast.
There may be other browsers that work ok as well, but I only tested with these four.
Hope that helps!
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Crashed my browser about 10 times in the past hour. I'm wondering if its a hardware problem since the 300's I used weeks ago never had browser crash issues.
I don't run adfree. But several android sites crashed me, and can confirm huffpost articles crash it after a few minutes of being on the page
Guys, it has nothing to do with adfree, and nothing to do with Asus or even our device specifically. The same websites that will crash the stock browser on our device will crash the stock browser on CM10 on my Galaxy S3. It's a java script error that's causing it, and it's happening across many websites. I'm investigating whether it's a Facebook widget that's found on many websites that's causing the crash. Nothing conclusive yet though. Still experimenting with some logcats after experiencung crashes from different sites.
I completely agree (see the way-too-long post above) - disable Javascript in the stock browser makes the problem go away, so it's definitely javascript-related.
What's strange is that Boat browser (as well as Chrome) can view the same sites without issue, so it actually seems to be a bug in the stock browser (or maybe the stock webkit that a lot of browsers use)...
I'll just use Boat and forget about it! It's a much better browser anyway...
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I keep having my browsers stop, they wont finish loading and then when I touch on the address search bar or refresh button on the screen I get the force close message. I'm having problems with the stock browser and also the dolphin hd browser too. It happens after about 10 minutes and I can't find any correlation with certain sites, it's just after a little time no matter what I'm looking at. I did a search and only came across someone saying they were having a problem but it was a xoom and they were also rooted. My transformer is all stock and only about a week old. Does anyone have any suggestions or anything? Besides that I love this thing. Thanks for the help.
some sites are inaccessible without crashing to the desktop. Web browsing is one of the major use cases for the transformer. It will be nice if this geta fixed.
Are you serious? I researched tide tablet for weeks before i decided on it. I knew about the cameras and taking videos not being good, I knee there was a chance for light bleed, and also that there were some problems with hd video playback sometimes. I hadn't read anything however on browsing problems. I tried Firefox and opera along with dolphin and they all stop and crash. I don't understand why someone didn't mention this in their reviews with it being a problem. I've had no problems with light bleed, video playback and the camera is fine for me, but the browsing problem would have dissuaded me from purchasing if I would have known. Is there no fixes at all?
The problem is java script, try to disable java
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I keep having my browsers stop, they wont finish loading and then when I touch on the address search bar or refresh button on the screen I get the force close message. I'm having problems with the stock browser and also the dolphin hd browser too. It happens after about 10 minutes and I can't find any correlation with certain sites, it's just after a little time no matter what I'm looking at. I did a search and only came across someone saying they were having a problem but it was a xoom and they were also rooted. My transformer is all stock and only about a week old. Does anyone have any suggestions or anything? Besides that I love this thing. Thanks for the help.
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On Monday I'll have my Transformer for 2 weeks. I just started having browser crashes yesterday only after a couple of minutes of browsing. This has happened on yahoo & xda. At the time I was trying to copy & paste. What I don't understand is I wasn't having problems before.
Also, I am unable to do a search on XDA. The search & keyboard come up monetarily then close.
Are you guys running stock 3.1 honeycomb?
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Are you guys running stock 3.1 honeycomb?
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Yes, stock & not rooted
I never get force closing pop ups but everynow and then the browser just closes... but then it depends on the website
I;m running overclocked prime
Mine is just stock, I haven't rooted mine either. I can usually browse for 10 minutes or so before mine stops then force closes. It seems strange that it just started after 2 weeks for the one person. If the problem is Java and I turn it off won't that limit some of the sites? I hate to be limited on browsing, otherwise you might as well get a dang ipad. I hope we find a fix for this it's driving me crazy.
Stock, 3.1 not rooted. The crashing is site specific. It happens with Dolphin as well. Xscope will handle the site, but it has other usability issues (like no zoom) . Do other tablets (zoom,tab 10.1,etc) have these issues? I love paying to be a beta tester.
Same problem here, browser crashes on certain webpages without a warning, switching java off solves the problem but this shouldn't be a solution
Turning off Java Script does indeed help a lot it seems - faster loading and far less crashes. As a web technology noob what do I lose w/o Java script? I browse mostly news/science/tech blogs and forums. Not to many interactive (save Facebook of course).
Any good tips on what losing JV scrips limits?
Thanks!
This has been discussed before Its a known issues (at least to us that have them) and its pretty annoying to say the least. Turning off javascript helps in two different ways (stops crashes and speeds up browsing), but some pages wont display correctly without it.
i resolved crashes with "adfree"
I've never seen my browser as prone to crash or sluggish on the transformer. The only thing I configured is to start plugins on click only (like poor man flashblock - but I prefer it this way on my desktop Chrome too). Running stock 3.1.
i wwill try the adfree and I will post my results.
I've had my Transformer for about three weeks and besides slowing down quite a bit the stock browser and Dolphin have been crashing regularly as of last week. I'm running stock 3.1 - not rooted or anything. It's gotten bad enough that I've basically stopped using it and am using my Acer W500 and iPad. I can put up with some problems in a new unit but if I had known that Honeycomb was as buggy as it seems to be so far I probably would not have purchased this.
i got mine last week, the default browser performance is unacceptable. It just crashes without any warning. Clicking comboboxes , checkboxes and even links in some cases is far too difficult to get right with one go, there are instances where you simply cant do it at all , even after zooming all the way in. Turning off JavaScript is not an option for me, there are simply too many sites using JavaScript for their manus n stuff. Now using dolphin browser, seemsmuch better, but still unreble.I am a huge android supporter, i have a galaxy s and i love it. But recently i compared this against an ipad 2, i hate to say this but with current firmware (3.1 stock, not rooted) this tablet is far inferior to the ipad when it comes to web browsing. I hate apple products,but at this point id rather have an ipad, over this
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I've never seen my browser as prone to crash or sluggish on the transformer. The only thing I configured is to start plugins on click only (like poor man flashblock - but I prefer it this way on my desktop Chrome too). Running stock 3.1.
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Try loading gmail web site and see how sluggish the performance is.
Browser Cache
I cleared my browser cache and this seemed to fix it. can someone test and post results?
I am finally using the Transformer on vacation and the browser is erroring with a "force restart" message. Can be using 2-4hrs and message pops up. Not very nice.
On the latest build. What gives..Is this to be expected on Ver3.2?
Now i will say this...My wife's iPad has never done this..would hate to buy Apple but you cannot fault a Apple not working 99.9%..100% if flash gets loaded and with Steve Jobs gone this will happen.
use dolphin hd tablet.
Use opera browser, I think it's the best browser for the TF ATM, dolphin HD is good also but it's slower and laggier then opera for me...
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I don't have any problems with the stock browser FC and my wife doesn't have an iPad so maybe that's the Problem?
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Use opera browser, I think it's the best browser for the TF ATM, dolphin HD is good also but it's slower and laggier then opera for me...
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Ok and installed. Let's see how this behaves.
Some quick comments:
1. Open web sites at first are slower..about 10secs more then stock browser
2. Flash is work fine
3. Pages are scrolling smoother then stock browser
More to come...
To the OP, android did not just come out yesterday. If you really hate android stock browser before trying out other alternatives, you should get yourself an ipad.
I've actually seen people complain about the black area around the screen on the iconia and transformer. I told those people to get an ipad because [sarcasm] the ipad has no black area around its screen at all[/sarcasm].
I have the same problems with the latest version
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To the OP, android did not just come out yesterday. If you really hate android stock browser before trying out other alternatives, you should get yourself an ipad.
I've actually seen people complain about the black area around the screen on the iconia and transformer. I told those people to get an ipad because [sarcasm] the ipad has no black area around its screen at all[/sarcasm].
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I stated that the stock browser after 2-5hrs of use gives a "force restart" pop-up message. I am using a "stock" unit with the lastest firmware. I am trying another browser to see if it works without crashing. Again, since I do have a iPad 1 I can compare on the user experience. Android has some work to do on there platform...FACT
OP:
1. Flash is not 100% working on FP sites...this is noted from OP whitepaper
2. Using 3hrs and no crash message at this time..I use around 8 tabs in the browser.
3. Screen sizing is not as good as stock browser....OP resizing back and forth.
4. There is a lag from the keybard when typing..OS issue as this happens in any app.
Trying flash on both browsers. Flash does not work well on 360 views. It tries but then page displays "stop" symbol then site tab removes itself. Nice..
Site is landrover.com
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I stated that the stock browser after 2-5hrs of use gives a "force restart" pop-up message. I am using a "stock" unit with the lastest firmware. I am trying another browser to see if it works without crashing. Again, since I do have a iPad 1 I can compare on the user experience. Android has some work to do on there platform...FACT
OP:
1. Flash is not 100% working on FP sites...this is noted from OP whitepaper
2. Using 3hrs and no crash message at this time..I use around 8 tabs in the browser.
3. Screen sizing is not as good as stock browser....OP resizing back and forth.
4. There is a lag from the keybard when typing..OS issue as this happens in any app.
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Everything needs work. Thats why we have alternatives like firefox or opera. If you want everything to work exactly perfectly on stock you should stick with the ipad.
1, 3, and 4 are not true. Opera and firefox do not lag at all. This is not an os issue. Its software compatibility with the website issue.
Again, thats why we have free alternatives.
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Everything needs work. Thats why we have alternatives like firefox or opera. If you want everything to work exactly perfectly on stock you should stick with the ipad.
1, 3, and 4 are not true. Opera and firefox do not lag at all. This is not an os issue. Its software compatibility with the website issue.
Again, thats why we have free alternatives.
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Flash is spotty on sites..as GM, Shopnbc.tv just to name a few. Basically the tablet is just not as good as a Laptop..The tablet is not 100% ready for Primetime...Apple still has the support of the business and OS..while no tablet at this time can replace a Laptop..I still will support my TF...BUT that's why use a Alienware M11x...light and ultra fast and works 100%..
I just uninstall OP.....going to test Dolphin Browser HD
Just one more note on OP:
When streaming video, the video remains playing as in Standard Browser or Dolphin this pauses the stream when switching to other tabs. This is very nice as with me having 8 or 9 tabs going at a time I can have streaming music in the background.
Now..Dolphin was able to work a little better for flash at landrover.com, Shopnbctv worked 100%. This app has a lot of setup options....
Since last firmware upgrade I noticed frequent browser crashes to the homescreen.
Suddenly the browser window disppears, and I am back at the homescreen, without the browser window I was watching being saved - when I restart the browser I am back at my starting page.
Did not find any solution!
^x2 same problems
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^x2 same problems
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Back using OP...why....it works.
I was in the middle of placing a order with Stock Browser and got a "force start" message. Luckily i quickly loaded OP and completed my watch order...Shopnbc.com
This "bug" needs to be addressed by Google...I was going to grab the wifes iPad as this purchase needed to go thru....but OP came thru...
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^x2 same problems
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Me to. Sometimes more frequent then others.
Cohibajoe said:
the browser is erroring with a "force restart" message. Can be using 2-4hrs and message pops up. Not very nice.
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My browser under 3.2 rebooted spontaneously one time. Other than that, I love it. Flash works smoothly, pages render fast enough, and the menu list when you touch the extreme right edge is fabulous.
I'm playing around too. When I first got 3.2 I though the browser was better. Now it seems to crash all the time. I've been using OP and it works pretty well. The sizing issues are annoying, but it works.
Hopefully, Google will get this fixed. The browser on my Vibrant (Froyo) is rock solid.
I'll give Dolphin its shot too. I would be ok with a little slower if it was stable.
Glad to see I'm not the only one with this issue. I've had it happen multiple times right now - really pronounced on Amazon's site when browsing through items.
Also noticed that my "go back" button (the arrow, not the browser's actual back button) no longer functions as expected. I used to be able to hit that to go back to the previous page - now it takes several tries or me going to the top of the page and using the actual back button to go back. Anyone know of a fix? It's been a problem since the last OTA.
It usually happens while I'm typing, dolphin just closes without any force closing notice or anything like that and then when I open the browser again it starts over instead of opening the pages I was on before it closed. It is getting annoying cuz it is my default browser and I've never had any problems with it on my phone so I started wondering if it acts funky on tablets or maybe some apps I'm using on the tablet interferes with it like maybe go launcher which seems a little bit buggy but never have any problems with the 2 apps on my phone...
So I'm just wondering if anyone else had experienced this with dolphin on their tablet? I have a feeling not all apps that have been made for phones are going to go perfect with bigger screened tablets? The tablet is rooted but I'm using the stock ROM.
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Moved to Themes and apps...
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It usually happens while I'm typing, dolphin just closes without any force closing notice or anything like that and then when I open the browser again it starts over instead of opening the pages I was on before it closed. It is getting annoying cuz it is my default browser and I've never had any problems with it on my phone so I started wondering if it acts funky on tablets or maybe some apps I'm using on the tablet interferes with it like maybe go launcher which seems a little bit buggy but never have any problems with the 2 apps on my phone...
So I'm just wondering if anyone else had experienced this with dolphin on their tablet? I have a feeling not all apps that have been made for phones are going to go perfect with bigger screened tablets? The tablet is rooted but I'm using the stock ROM.
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Please make short sentences
Use ponctuation.
I've that problem too. Dolphin quit on specific Web page (forum) and I discovered that the default android browser has the same problem
It's specific to gtab 7+ and maybe his honeycomb version.
Using an other Brower (Opera Mobile) is a solution.
Envoyé depuis mon Xperia S
I've experienced similar issues with dolphin as well as other browsers. I generally get random closes if I have too many tabs open or load up a thread with too many full sized images. But then I have also experienced random closes when doing light browsing as well, but that occurs much less frequently.
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It usually happens while I'm typing, dolphin just closes without any force closing ...
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I had a similar issue, rebooting fixed it on wifeys Tab 7plus.
If not uninstalling/reinstalling.
Pp.
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Same here
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Dolphin does it very often so did d stock honeycomb browser. After updating to ICS, stock browser has not closed unexpectedly even once after 2days of usage I guess honeycomb was loaded with bugs.. glad its solved though.
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Dolphin does it very often so did d stock honeycomb browser.
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ditto, I have had better luck with Firefox beta. Looking foward to the ICS update, wondering if i should just wait or go downloadI? would like to find a better tap/keyboard. I love my tab 7.0 plus. But typing on my Asus transformer is much easier.
I have stopped using dolphin actually.. apart from the random closing i have also found that it (or one of the modules that come bundled with it) uses battery a lot in the background and tend to open network connection and transfer data ever when the phone is supposed to be in sleep..
and the random network usage stopped after i uninstalled dolphin..
I haven't had this problem at all. I use dolphin all the time. Also used Floating Browser, Overskreen, Firefox and Chrome. Have not experienced FCs.
In case you decide to stop using Dolphin, have a look at UC browser.
It has nice gesture support and has received a lot of positive reviews recently.
Can anyone tell me if this is common or just me? I have to restart to be able to use it. Is it the resolution?
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works just fine for me, offline maps and all
works fine on mine too (I'm on .26 WW, it also worked on .22)
on which version are you?
have you tried to delete the app cache?
have you installed the latest update for maps (01.08.2012)?
I also noticed that Gmaps always crashes when I hold the tablet in portrait mode. No problem in landscape.
Hi, I was having problems the last few times I used it, did the cache increase sizes and all, with no luck. What I tried right now, * appears * to be working and have fixed the problems. (Disclaimer, I haven't spent that much time with it, so not sure if it's fixed or what - but from my previous experience, it seems like it worked.)
I did a "cold boot" on the device that I read on other forums. TF 700 Forums
You will NOT lose any data! This is not a hard reset. It takes a few seconds longer to reboot (just this one time) with some diagnostics/debug tools on screen. But since then, it has soo far helped Google Earth. (I know your questions was related to maps specifically, but this could be the same thing.)
Hope this helps!
DTB
Interestingly it does the same on my TF300T too. Works like a charm on my Galaxy Note though.
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Cold Boot worked to fix Gmail and Maps on my TF101 Transformer
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What I tried right now, * appears * to be working and have fixed the problems. (Disclaimer, I haven't spent that much time with it, so not sure if it's fixed or what - but from my previous experience, it seems like it worked.)
I did a "cold boot" on the device that I read on other forums. [Sorry, can't post direct link to TF 700 Forums at transformerforums, "Various quick fixes links and help" thread.]
You will NOT lose any data! This is not a hard reset.
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Thank you! This worked to fix my Google Maps and Gmail crashes on my TF101 Transformer!
One issue I had with it was fixed by clearing the offline maps in the app settings
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I suspect that most of the google maps crashes are caused by the nvidia GL driver physical memory allocation bug. You can be pretty sure this is the cause if google maps crashes every time you start it but rebooting solves it for a while. Or you can check dmesg in a terminal for the kernel error message I talked about here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=30737043
Note you would need to run dmesg fairly quickly after maps crashes since the kernel logs are polluted with debugging messages which ASUS seems to have rather sloppily left in the kernel.
--Brad
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Me too....
I have had exactly the same problem, but also with GMail. Both Maps and Gmail both crash and stop working. No message or error message. Happens so frequently, it makes the apps unusable. I have found small relief if I try to purge the memory of the tablet prior to using the app, but that is a terrible state of affairs if this great tablet has so much trouble working the most fundamental of apps....
Very frustrating ... I came from having the Acer A500, and never had an ounce of trouble...
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Can anyone tell me if this is common or just me? I have to restart to be able to use it. Is it the resolution?
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I cold boot quite a bit...that's just me tho.
I pretty much see no bugs with anything.
Believe me I look for stuff that ain't working on my tab.
I learned to check everything after dealing with Windows for so many years.
...logcats are our friends!
I cold boot quite a lot too but I'm seeing constant Gmail crashes. I've also cleared its cache and data and limited background processes to 4, all to no avail. I had seen map issues too but the cold boots seem to have cleared that up. But not so with Gmail.
Dave
sparksd said:
I cold boot quite a lot too but I'm seeing constant Gmail crashes. I've also cleared its cache and data and limited background processes to 4, all to no avail. I had seen map issues too but the cold boots seem to have cleared that up. But not so with Gmail.
Dave
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Hmm...
Weird about the G-mail crashes.
G-mail works very well for me.
What about the regular mail client app?
Maybe fixed??
peare said:
Can anyone tell me if this is common or just me? I have to restart to be able to use it. Is it the resolution?
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I am hoping that I am not speaking too soon, but the problem of crashing apps on my Infinity seems to have stopped. This is a weirdsituation as the only apps that seemed to have problems are the ones from Google. Google Maps, GMail etc. What I did was cleared the cache in Google Maps and also downloaded an app FMR Memory Cleaner. Now I am not sure which item did the trick, but I haven't had a crash for about 3 days now and that is a big improvement. I hope others might find similar success.
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Hmm...
Weird about the G-mail crashes.
G-mail works very well for me.
What about the regular mail client app?
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No crashes but I'm seeing issues withmy POP email account - the "12/31/1969" timestamp problem wherein some email show that timestamp and the email is empty. I can see the email on my PC but it is screwed up on the Android side.
brad0112358 said:
I suspect that most of the google maps crashes are caused by the nvidia GL driver physical memory allocation bug. You can be pretty sure this is the cause if google maps crashes every time you start it but rebooting solves it for a while.
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This is the correct answer.
It is in fact the correct answer to a great many problems/questions on the ICS TFs. This is the problem with nearly every Google app. This is the reason games "designed for Tegra 3" crash consistently on the flagship Tegra 3 tablet. This has probably generated a significant number of RMAs. etc, etc. If this bug had never existed, probably a fourth to a third of the problem threads on the XDA TF Forums and other related boards would not exist.
Some people will claim they don't "have" it or that they have "fixed" it by some hokey method, but this is untrue because it's a driver and memory issue that exists at the kernel level and exists on every TF running the ASUS stock kernel.
The reason people think they can fix it (or think they may not have the problem) is because:
They can work around it
When and how it manifests is highly random and configuration dependent.
I.e. When and how often it manifests depends heavily on the memory state of the system at any given point in time, which in turn depends on a lot of stuff.
So, for example, if you have a bunch of apps/services installed (and virtually everyone's setup is different in this regard, even your own setup will vary over time) it makes a huge difference in how often and when you are going to see it. It's kind of like playing Russian Roulette except it is a giant revolver with 10000 chambers and there can be anywhere from 1 to 10000 bullets chambered every time you pull the trigger (run an app, install a new app, start a new service, etc).
So there are no fixes at the user level (aside from unlocking and installing a custom kernel): ASUS is the only one who can truly fix it for a stock TF.
So, for us, there are only workarounds. After owning five TF devices all of which have regularly been affected by this bug, here is how I deal with it:
On first crash: Run FMR Memory Cleaner, rerun crashed app, this will often "fix" it for a long period if I have not got a lot of stuff installed.
If app crashes after FMR, rerun FMR again. This sounds crazy but if you rerun FMR two times in succession it will usually allocate so much RAM it will force the launcher to reload. NOTE: IT WILL LOOK LIKE THE LAUNCHER HAS CRASHED, IT HASN'T. Wait like 30seconds to a minute for it to restart. Now rerun your app. This seems to give me a new lease on life for 90%+ of the crashes.
However, if your app crashes AGAIN. You guessed it: Cold Boot. Silently curse ASUS and NVIDIA as the machine reboots if it makes you feel better.
NVIDIA discovered acknowledged and FIXED the bug earlier this year. ASUS has either through ignorance, laziness, or malice not incorporated that fix into any of their code prior to the JB kernel for the Nexus 7 and the TF300 (which they probably picked up by osmosis for the 3.x kernel source). IMHO, given the prevalence and impact of this issue, this is evidence that whoever is directing/driving their FW development and/or applications engineering is criminally incompetent.
We will continue to have these issues until ASUS either: fix ICS (won't happen) or release JB. I consider my device usable because I am aware of the issue and can almost always get it to do what I want without a full reboot. However, I pity the poor confused folks whose config causes them to see this often but do not have any technical understanding of the issue or the workarounds.
Unfortunately, I'm getting Gmail crashes even shortly after doing a cold boot. I tried uninstalling updates this AM but that didn't help. I'll have to try your Step (2) as I got a crash after running FMR Memory Cleaner. I think I already tried that as I did see the Launcher issue you mentioned. Really frustrating as between Gmail and Email, I have different problems. I've been trying K-9 but I don't really care for the interface. Maybe I'll just have to continue using my Xoom for mail (Or my Galaxy S3, truly the most solid Android device I have owned).
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Unfortunately, I'm getting Gmail crashes even shortly after doing a cold boot.
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Like zenaxe explained, the reason for a crash depends on a lot of stuff. This is why so many do not have the same symptoms you seem to be having. It might even be caused by some other app, rather than the Gmail app itself, but on it suffers from the side effects of that "rouge" app.
Step 1 is to eliminate all unnecessary apps from running in the background. You'd be amazed at what gets started when your reboot in completed. The easiest way is to list all tasks using System Tuner's task mananger (enable the System view aswell, no need to enable Kernel). From that list you can probably kill a bunch of apps, but usually the just restart so it's better to uninstall (so they won't start up again), or make sure you disable the Activities/Receivers that make the app (re) start on "its own". Disabling Activities/Receivers could render your app inoperable, so be careful what you disable.
Step 2, uninstalling updates is usually not the solution. Keep it up to date, as that one will have the most "knowledge" stored in it's code. Meaning, if Google found an issue with another app and the Gmail app, they might have worked around it in a newer version.
This is all from my own experience. When I first got the tablet, I went crazy in the play store and downloaded every single app I thought might be of use. After only just 1 week it had weird symptoms and apps would crash a lot. I decided to start over (factory date reset) and take a different approach. I still try out a lot of apps, but I started to use blue stacks to do all the "messy" install/tryout/uninstall, until I decide on the one or two apps to use.
Keep it clean and mean.
For some reason today Gmail is not working so well. I've been trying to access this email from Papa Johns and it won't execute 'Show picture' without doing a immediate force close.
I cleared cache and force stopped the app and no go. After trying after the force stopped app it's acting even worse.
Why Gmail be wilding out now.
Everything else is working rock solid post the .30 firmware update. Chrome is actually acting like x86/x64 Intel based Chrome app i.e. stable and working and no lag.
I was getting authentication errors earlier, seems like they are having issues today.
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It has been messing up for me as well, especially after the .30 update.
Mine has become so unstable that I quit using it and switched to the Email app. Crashes, lockups, etc. I tried restarts, cold boots, clearing cache and data, uninstalling/reinstalling updates, using a memory cleaner, limiting background apps, killing other tasks/apps - all to no avail. I saw it to some degree earlier but not much - it definitely got much worse with .30.
Dave
I Don't use Gmail on tab, just my phone. However I did/do have issues with Androsensor after .30 update http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1896892
BxMxK said:
I Don't use Gmail on tab, just my phone. However I did/do have issues with Androsensor after .30 update http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1896892
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I'm having issues with several of the Google Apps now. I have no idea what changed.
Oh my. I almost said no problems here and then decided to try....
Closes every time.. Maybe can just open mail and then just closes. No reports no nothing
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Edit. Seems like it only crashes when launched from the widget. Couldn't get it close when opened from the icon.
I think this is a memory related issue again. Because when opened from the icon it loads a second or two. From widget opens instantly because it is there preloaded I guess. But from icon launched it loads the app to the memory. Just speculations..
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the gmail app has never worked perfectly for me.
after reboot it does work for a while, but then suddenly it starts hanging and crashing.
And at the moment it starts doing that i just need to reboot, even really killing all the app/services related to that doesn't help
So i guess there is some leak somewhere. I never have any problems on my SGS2 with gmail. So it has to be something in this build.
gmail smooth as butter at Blimpie
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For some reason today Gmail is not working so well. I've been trying to access this email from Papa Johns and it won't execute 'Show picture' without doing a immediate force close.
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Might be related to the "show pic" and not Papa John nor gmail.
Actually so far since the update Everything on my TF700 is smooth as butter .
Sorry 2hear these few quirks, lol
Mainstream apps like Maps and Gmail getting broken to the point of unusable is more than a quirk. This is one of the things that I have found frustrating with Android across the six different devices in my household - figuring out what doesn't work after just minor updates like .30. I'm a professional s/w engineer/architect with 41 years experience so I have a pretty good feel for the difficulties of development for multiple platforms but that doesn't make me feel any better when I suddenly can't read my email or view maps and have to develop workarounds. Not a great selling point either when I show the TF700T to my coworkers - "Yeah, other than maps and email, it works great."
Dave
GMail and Maps have crashed once or twice for me since the update but all of those crashes have been due to the NVIDIA driver bug in the ASUS kernel according to the dmesg utility, so in my case, the crashes are ASUS kernel caused rather than anything Google has done. So, FWIW, they do not seem any more problematic than before for me. I still use my work arounds and still use the apps with only a small amount of hassle.
The Google apps have always used the driver (as well they should, if the driver is not garbage it'll increase performance, LOL). This is an ASUS problem it's been in their Tegra3 ICS kernel from day one and it looks like stability changes at updates because the updates affect the memory fragmentation on your device (this is why a bunch of people will say "looks like stability has improved" and then another group rushes in and says "the update really messed with apps/games/etc, nothing works anymore!". I wish there was some way the importance of this bug could be escalated with them. The good news is JB will fix it because it'll have a 3.x kernel.
Yeah, same here. GMAIL is dorked hard; maps too from time to time. I agree though, its not a Google problem, its a driver issue from ASUS.
skola28 said:
Yeah, same here. GMAIL is dorked hard; maps too from time to time. I agree though, its not a Google problem, its a driver issue from ASUS.
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Agree - I don't have these issues on any of my other Android devices.